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Post by beacon on Aug 12, 2014 5:39:32 GMT -5
Finally, we need to make a ruckus even without the PID overtones, with people on regular Beatles sites, to agitate to get ALL PAGES (all pages) of Mal's diary released, in original form. This is the true "Beatles Bible". The diary pages were never shown and only tiny excerpts given. Where is the fan outcry? Use social media, etc. Our goal are the Paul death references, but if "neutral" agitation is big enough, we could get shots of the pages. Transcriptions will not do, for our purposes. This document should be studied by Beatles scholars. Put that out: we want to see it, all of it. (Don't announce your PID aspirations.) xo ;;;;;;;;;;;  Clare, as much as I would love to see the Mal Evans diary/book, to whom exactly would we appeal for its release? If the screenshots for the IAAP video's are genuine then we should assume that Mal's manuscript now resides with either/or Apple or McCartney. In Billy and Me, Billy Martin alludes to having read it so someone on the 'inside' must have given him access. Either way, if they wanted the book released you have to think that it would have happened by now. My guess is that Mal may make claims as to how much Beatle material he actually contributed to, and therefore, it has been supressed for this reason rather than any overt PID clues. Alternatively, as I wrote here, if the 'they did a good job in Nairobi' comments allude to PID, or trepanation, or something else, why doesn't he explicitly spell this out rather than make subtle hints? We have to consider then that the document is possibly a fake. I would be more than happy to assist with a social media campaign but who would we direct it at? |
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clarekuehn
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Post by clarekuehn on Aug 12, 2014 22:25:50 GMT -5
Finally, we need to make a ruckus even without the PID overtones, with people on regular Beatles sites, to agitate to get ALL PAGES (all pages) of Mal's diary released, in original form. This is the true "Beatles Bible". The diary pages were never shown and only tiny excerpts given. Where is the fan outcry? Use social media, etc. Our goal are the Paul death references, but if "neutral" agitation is big enough, we could get shots of the pages. Transcriptions will not do, for our purposes. This document should be studied by Beatles scholars. Put that out: we want to see it, all of it. (Don't announce your PID aspirations.) xo ;;;;;;;;;;; Clare, as much as I would love to see the Mal Evans diary/book, to whom exactly would we appeal for its release? If the screenshots for the IAAP video's are genuine then we should assume that Mal's manuscript now resides with either/or Apple or McCartney. In Billy and Me, Billy Martin alludes to having read it so someone on the 'inside' must have given him access. Either way, if they wanted the book released you have to think that it would have happened by now. My guess is that Mal may make claims as to how much Beatle material he actually contributed to, and therefore, it has been supressed for this reason rather than any overt PID clues. Alternatively, as I wrote here, if the 'they did a good job in Nairobi' comments allude to PID, or trepanation, or something else, why doesn't he explicitly spell this out rather than make subtle hints? We have to consider then that the document is possibly a fake. I would be more than happy to assist with a social media campaign but who would we direct it at? As I said, we should NOT (not) mention the BOOK (book). We should just go everywhere mentioning the DIARY (diary). Just mention it everywhere. Create a big, embarrassing buzz. That should do the trick. It's for publicity of the issue of how the diary is not published & reproduced; that's all. See? ---- Of course the Mal page is genuine (the persons at the meeting are not those one would expect, nor are they in a predictable order, or slightly rearranged from expected order, but rather are how Mal's mind might just list from seeing them in person & edit later; the manner of writing & thinking fits Mal's level of intellectualization -- i.e., not much -- & his very emotional way, his types of concerns, & the sorts of things he'd resent). It's also the climax of the film. & Of course it's not made absolutely certain for us: it's still an f-ing coverup, just one with leaks!!!!  XO |
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Post by delysid on Sept 29, 2014 9:49:43 GMT -5
Eck...I've just been reading through all of that Billy Martin recent stuff on Beacon's mostly excellent blog and elsewhere.
What really bothers me is that people can be fairly serious researchers one minute and then religious zealots next.
It's not possible to view the Revelation of iamaphoney as other than when he gave up the ghost of providing all of his stuff for free (the vids) and decided 'OK...now I need to make some money'.
which is fair enough as I see it because the work, all of it, is great and I had no problem whatsoever in parting with good money for The Right Album
But what I don't have time for is the 'let's pretend' nonsense that pervades this site and others in the PID cohort, a game who's central gambit is 'Found an anomaly, let's take this forward as proof and lead onto to further proofs while studiously dismissing all other non-supporting evidence of the anomaly as 'disinfo' agents trying to STOP US REVEALING THE TRUTH'.
Frankly, for anyone with critical faculties, it passes as a chortle for a minute but then becomes very annoying.
So let's cut the crap here:
'Billy Martin' is a talented man. His work has amazed everyone. He's now fronting it because he can't make any money by saying it's Neil Aspinall or Paul McCartney.
The curtain has fallen on that idea. Let's not try to pretend otherwise. The bs he puts out in that recent video is so weak that in the vid he visibly can barely manage to spew it!
As for a lot of other stuff around and the individuals most zealous in pushing it, there's a notable presence of Christian true-believers (the next generations of those who 'Beatle-burned'??) who seem to be unaware that their 'Tavistock; trope, for instance, comes directly from the 70's propaganda of Lyndon Larouche, multi-campaign presidential candidate, former Trotskyist and all-American wanna be Mussolini who mashed up extreme left and extreme right into a NWO concoction that has since put David Icke's kids through college and is threatening to put Jan Irvin's through too.
But don't take my disinfo agen's word for it.
There's about 50 billion words from the now 92-year old Larouche on his website and a further trillion debunking him.
The essential themes he introduced were 'The British run everything', 'The British are Jews', 'The Jews are Bankers', and 'It's The Satanic Cult of Dionysus'.
Sub-themes (here's where 'we' come in) include 'Rock and Roll was invented by Tavistock to debase traditional ni*ger-lynching family values in America'
I could go on and I probably will because the work of Beacon, Jan Irvin and others spreads me out to explore the connections. But I seem to be finding it all leads back to Lyndon because, quite frankly, he's been mashing up everything in a dot to dot flambe for his own purposes since before any of us were born!
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Post by delysid on Sept 29, 2014 10:01:14 GMT -5
In short what I'm saying is that 'fun time' at PID may have been over for quite some time as it's now been annexed, Scientology-style by (primary and secondary, knowing and unknowing) cult members of the Larouchean order, some of whom aren't even aware of where their tropes come from....pamphlets and books that predate the web!
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Post by hotman637 on Sept 30, 2014 20:59:23 GMT -5
In short what I'm saying is that 'fun time' at PID may have been over for quite some time as it's now been annexed, Scientology-style by (primary and secondary, knowing and unknowing) cult members of the Larouchean order, some of whom aren't even aware of where their tropes come from....pamphlets and books that predate the web! If there is no 'fun time' we will never have success! The three steps to success are #1 DREAM BIG! Our big dream might be to exspose MacFake and all these other replacements. #2 HAVE FUN! If we don't HAVE FUN doing we will quit so we had BETTER have fun. #3 GET THINGS DONE! If we dream big and have fun we will GET THINGS DONE. |
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Post by delysid on Oct 2, 2014 20:46:53 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more although I think the idea of exposing McFake can be dropped by getting yourself a passport (if needed) and going to Liverpool to run those theories by some scousers.
DREAMING BIG for me would be to get all those who are wasting their energy refuting Clare Kuehn's batshit interpretations of (alleged) Lennon doodles and Plastic Tina's veiled espousal of white supremacy to assemble in some greater cause for which they have inadvertently pre-honed their research and reasoning skills via the fun-house of PID.
Getting things done. Hmmm...
I'm a born procrastinator so I'll have to get back to you on that.
But seriously, I back your spirit, hotman!
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Post by hotman637 on Oct 2, 2014 21:12:27 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more although I think the idea of exposing McFake can be dropped by getting yourself a passport (if needed) and going to Liverpool to run those theories by some scousers. DREAMING BIG for me would be to get all those who are wasting their energy refuting Clare Kuehn's batshit interpretations of (alleged) Lennon doodles and Plastic Tina's veiled espousal of white supremacy to assemble in some greater cause for which they have inadvertently pre-honed their research and reasoning skills via the fun-house of PID. Getting things done. Hmmm... I'm a born procrastinator so I'll have to get back to you on that. But seriously, I back your spirit, hotman! Thanks! I agree we will never exspose MacFake because the universe is ironic. In other words it is IRONIC we will never exspose MacFake. |
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Post by delysid on Oct 23, 2014 5:35:37 GMT -5
It could be that you'll never expose McFake because the McFakery is faked. That's not ironic, it's a seriously BASIC failure of critical thinking while reading about the development of rumours whose authors were jokers.
"Back to the egg on your face"
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Post by hotman637 on Oct 23, 2014 10:46:54 GMT -5
It could be that you'll never expose McFake because the McFakery is faked. That's not ironic, it's a seriously BASIC failure of critical thinking while reading about the development of rumours whose authors were jokers. "Back to the egg on your face" The first part of the definition of "ironic" is "happening the opposite way that is expected" so I AGREE that "the McFakery is faked" because that is the opposite of what is expected. Nobody expects fakery to be faked so PID is ironic. Just like no one expects God to be a woman so that is ironic too. Nobody expected JFK to be shot by his wife so that is also ironic. The fact that people don't see the universe as ironic is ALSO ironic. Many people say the universe is "mysterious" or it is "rocket science" when in my opinion they would be more accurate to say "the universe is ironic". The second part of defining "irony" is "typically causing wry amusement because of this". So I think it is a good idea to say (when life gets too serious) "isn't it FUNNY that the universe is IRONIC" and have a good laugh. You will FEEL BETTER! |
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Post by ekauqodielak on Aug 13, 2019 1:32:47 GMT -5
Eck...I've just been reading through all of that Billy Martin recent stuff on Beacon's mostly excellent blog and elsewhere. What really bothers me is that people can be fairly serious researchers one minute and then religious zealots next. It's not possible to view the Revelation of iamaphoney as other than when he gave up the ghost of providing all of his stuff for free (the vids) and decided 'OK...now I need to make some money'. which is fair enough as I see it because the work, all of it, is great and I had no problem whatsoever in parting with good money for The Right Album But what I don't have time for is the 'let's pretend' nonsense that pervades this site and others in the PID cohort, a game who's central gambit is 'Found an anomaly, let's take this forward as proof and lead onto to further proofs while studiously dismissing all other non-supporting evidence of the anomaly as 'disinfo' agents trying to STOP US REVEALING THE TRUTH'. Frankly, for anyone with critical faculties, it passes as a chortle for a minute but then becomes very annoying. So let's cut the crap here: 'Billy Martin' is a talented man. His work has amazed everyone. He's now fronting it because he can't make any money by saying it's Neil Aspinall or Paul McCartney. The curtain has fallen on that idea. Let's not try to pretend otherwise. The bs he puts out in that recent video is so weak that in the vid he visibly can barely manage to spew it! As for a lot of other stuff around and the individuals most zealous in pushing it, there's a notable presence of Christian true-believers (the next generations of those who 'Beatle-burned'??) who seem to be unaware that their 'Tavistock; trope, for instance, comes directly from the 70's propaganda of Lyndon Larouche, multi-campaign presidential candidate, former Trotskyist and all-American wanna be Mussolini who mashed up extreme left and extreme right into a NWO concoction that has since put David Icke's kids through college and is threatening to put Jan Irvin's through too. But don't take my disinfo agen's word for it. There's about 50 billion words from the now 92-year old Larouche on his website and a further trillion debunking him. The essential themes he introduced were 'The British run everything', 'The British are Jews', 'The Jews are Bankers', and 'It's The Satanic Cult of Dionysus'. Sub-themes (here's where 'we' come in) include 'Rock and Roll was invented by Tavistock to debase traditional ni*ger-lynching family values in America' I could go on and I probably will because the work of Beacon, Jan Irvin and others spreads me out to explore the connections. But I seem to be finding it all leads back to Lyndon because, quite frankly, he's been mashing up everything in a dot to dot flambe for his own purposes since before any of us were born! …Bears repeating… |
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Post by clarekuehn on Aug 13, 2019 4:41:27 GMT -5
Delysid (and Hotman637 by quoting the former) claimed that Lennon's forensically accurate drawing can be debunked. Now what would that mean?
1 that Lennon did not draw it. Given several aspects of the acquisition and discussion of it within a month, and its contents and its context as an object upon which the drawing was done, the idea that anyone other than Lennon drew it is beyond unlikely.
2 that it was drawn by Lennon but is not of Paul. For similar reasons, though with more emphasis on the details of the content, this is impossible as a normal conclusion. In other words, in the real world, this is not possible. One can consider only a small aspect of the problem and spin off, but no.
And if it is of Paul, then, it also shows, with forensic accuracy, a two-way open head wound with collapsed forehead and broken ankles. This confirms all artistic clues about Paul dead, plus gives salient, medically accurate types of details.
I also was addressed by someone whose name I forget now, about the Mal page. Iamaphoney is obviously a serious leak. The funding came from Neil Aspinall originally, most likely, given evidence of funds out of his movie account at the time the Rotten Apple Series on YouTube came out from the Iamaphoney group. With Neil dead not long after, Bill took it over as much as he could influence these people, whoever they were, these people with a bit of a conscience. This set of conclusions requires lots of backing up, which I have done, but of course cannot repeat here, for brevity's sake. As it is, this is going to be a long comment post.
Anyway, any sleuth worth her/his salt should notice that the Mal page and book cover are the climax of the movie, a movie constructed so that most people don't notice the content and climax. But it's the climax. It has every indication by wording and what is said, of being a genuine Mal account. Moreover, what is shown, how often, and how some parts are shown in Rotten Apple series only, to make easy exposure against doubters harder, all indicate hiding key evidence in plain sight.
In deadly conspiracies, all evidence must have some level of deniability ... even when that is ridiculous once the context is known. But put something true in with things which distract, even when those distractions aren't false, and you have an attempt to tell you something. It might be an object, such as this book page, or it might be a truth inside a bullsh*t statement on TV.
As far as Kaleidoscope's comments about LaRouche go ... (and I don't have any of the poster names in front of me, as I type this, so please excuse misspellings) ...
LaRouche was identifying types of conspiracy links in the world, and brought out British influences (including history of banking coups and drug and slave running), things which "Illuminati" jargon of recent years rather misses. Every attempt to look at "who does the big evils" will miss some and catch others, some of the same in most sieves, some different.
And LaRouche himself was nearly killed or stopped when in prison, obviously cutting a deal not to mention Clintons going forward. In the switch from Bush Sr to Bill Clinton, in some ways Bush's lackey (though in others a different flavour), LaRouche himself steered away from one toward repeated criticisms of the other.
Agreed he saw being pro people as some form of Marx ideology when he was young, but that is common. As he moved forward, he realized that Marx had problems and yet wanted to help people.
LaRouche was not his own best advocate, being very bright, but also insular in how he saw certain social ills. Some of the best papers I have ever seen came out if his followers: on the Irish Potato Famine and Bailly in the French Revolution, and on Gauss.
Anyway, as regards Tavistock as the "big bad group" of social engineering, I have to agree with you, Kaleidoscope (spelling wrong, I know): Coleman, with his Committee of 300 book, pushed disinformation about PID by design or because he was fed it. He claimed Tavistock and Adorno (who were connected) simply wrote the Beatles and everything is weird. But it is not. Control of people in a business, even in a cult, is different for different definitions of control. Surely, the Beatles were influenced by or at least promoted into certain places by those we can call controllers. But to suggest they were not themselves and organic in other ways simply goes against all levels of evidence, and I'm including logic as evidence links.
Moreover, Paul died, so all this misdirection onto Tavistock (and Adorno), recently produced again in another form, the Memoirs of Billy Shears book, what is it?
It is merely, in my opinion, a mix of good short-hand for some types of players in the conspiracy to cover up the death of Paul and help his replacement succeed, while, in Coleman's case, these players do not even have a death to cover up.
Finally, about the idea that Jackie Kennedy shot Jack, mentioned also by Delysid (again, sorry for misspellings), that idea is only possible by not understanding not only Dr Costella's findings about the Zapruder film, and all others who worked on aspects of the problems of that film. It also requires no sense of the photographic evidence of blood and where the shots came from, why her skirt would show less blood, especially in a black-and-white photo of a pink suit, and the witness testimony.
... Except that we still need someone to catalogue all the evidence for the Italian-owned, crash-impacted McCartney car.
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