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Post by whammo on Jul 16, 2012 20:02:43 GMT -5
"Wings Over the World" is slang for the New World Order. It is from the H.G. Wells book "The Shape of Things to Come". Pretty blatant clue right there.
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Post by B on Jul 16, 2012 20:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by linus on Jul 16, 2012 20:55:19 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Jul 17, 2012 5:13:45 GMT -5
"Wings Over the World" is slang for the New World Order. It is from the H.G. Wells book "The Shape of Things to Come".
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Post by iameye on Jul 17, 2012 7:20:42 GMT -5
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Post by whammo on Jul 17, 2012 13:15:40 GMT -5
What is that supposed to be, a flying saucer?
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Post by iameye on Jul 17, 2012 16:01:35 GMT -5
What is that supposed to be, a flying saucer? It's a vehicle and pilots.
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Post by iameye on Jul 17, 2012 16:18:26 GMT -5
;D
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Post by whammo on Jul 17, 2012 16:55:48 GMT -5
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Post by whammo on Jul 17, 2012 17:01:49 GMT -5
What is that supposed to be, a flying saucer? It's a vehicle and pilots. Those pilots don't look very healthy, which I suppose is to be expected when you are piloting a flaming pie. I bet they crash landed. Poor Shirley Temple doesn't look too happy her plane took off without her. Not sure what to make of the crappy birthday in space via HAL or "Working Girl". All I know is that Stanley Kubrick hid an awful lot of stuff in his movies. Another person I need to follow up on is the works of Ira Levin, who seems to have been a lot less cryptic. OTOH it seems that Kubrick's secrets were a lot bigger and needing of those levels of secrecy.
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Post by iameye on Jul 17, 2012 18:46:37 GMT -5
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Post by whammo on Jul 17, 2012 21:10:33 GMT -5
Ahh okay, I thought it was Mercury from the hat, but he didn't have WINGS did he? Nike is one of the Greek gods I haven't researched yet, need to look up the Roman equivalent. It always gets me how cultures just adapt these gods and change their names and a few details and make them their own.
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Post by iameye on Jul 18, 2012 3:33:08 GMT -5
Ahh okay, I thought it was Mercury from the hat, but he didn't have WINGS did he? Nike is one of the Greek gods I haven't researched yet, need to look up the Roman equivalent. It always gets me how cultures just adapt these gods and change their names and a few details and make them their own. Victoria, goddess of victory. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Victoria_monument.jpg
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Post by cherilyn7 on Jul 18, 2012 3:35:51 GMT -5
It also looks like the "Angel of Mons" seen over battlefield in WW1 by thousands of soldiers; there is much hidden symbolism on this medal (research can be viewed on websites). Author John A Keel wrote re Wings Over the World in The Prophecies of Mothman.
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Post by iameye on Jul 18, 2012 3:59:12 GMT -5
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Post by whammo on Jul 18, 2012 6:23:11 GMT -5
There is a whole undercurrent of transhumanism going on there...
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Post by iameye on Jul 18, 2012 7:11:42 GMT -5
For there are three that testify.
lol ;D
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Post by iameye on Jul 18, 2012 7:15:47 GMT -5
Over the Worlden.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enlisted_GlobeAnchor.jpgen.wikipedia.org/wiki/AslanAccording to the author, Aslan is not an allegorical portrayal of Christ, but rather a suppositional incarnation of Christ Himself:
If Aslan represented the immaterial Deity, he would be an allegorical figure. In reality however, he is an invention giving an imaginary answer to the question, 'What might Christ become like if there really were a world like Narnia and He chose to be incarnate and die and rise again in that world as He actually has done in ours?' This is not allegory at all.
"Aslan then selects several animals that his song has called into existence and gives them the power of speech and reason. He instructs them to look after all the animals. He appoints the cabby to be King Frank of Narnia and brings his wife Nellie from Earth to be Queen Helen. Aslan explains that Jadis will pose a great threat to the Narnians, and charges Digory and Polly with a quest to acquire a magic fruit to protect the land. He turns the horse Strawberry into a winged horse named Fledge. " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fledge
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Post by cherilyn7 on Jul 18, 2012 12:36:12 GMT -5
This has gone off topic somewhat (Wings Over the World, the TRUE Rulers of the planet. Definately symbolism in choice of name for the band.
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Post by whammo on Jul 18, 2012 17:05:13 GMT -5
For there are three that testify. lol ;D Indeed. One and one and one is three That was a really good catch with the "Wings over the world" on the Victoria statue.
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Post by iameye on Jul 18, 2012 17:14:19 GMT -5
For there are three that testify. lol ;D Indeed. One and one and one is three That was a really good catch with the "Wings over the world" on the Victoria statue. We aim to please. For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater; for the testimony of God is this, that He has testified concerning His Son. The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself...
This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
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Post by whammo on Jul 18, 2012 17:16:37 GMT -5
Do you believe that the birthday allusions are pointing to the Phoenix rising from the ashes, birth of the New Age, the Age of Aquarius?
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Post by iameye on Jul 18, 2012 17:20:21 GMT -5
Do you believe that the birthday allusions are pointing to the Phoenix rising from the ashes, birth of the New Age, the Age of Aquarius? Yes!
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Post by whammo on Jul 18, 2012 17:25:16 GMT -5
Do you believe that the birthday allusions are pointing to the Phoenix rising from the ashes, birth of the New Age, the Age of Aquarius? Yes! Okay! Sorry I was a little slow getting that. So then am I to suppose that the arrival of the Flaming Pie is what marks the birth of the new age? Paul said he was the man on the Flaming Pie, hmmm...
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Post by iameye on Jul 19, 2012 3:40:24 GMT -5
Wings are crucial. The Baphomet of Lévi was to become an important figure within the cosmology of Thelema, the mystical system established by Aleister Crowley in the early twentieth century. Baphomet features in the Creed of the Gnostic Catholic Church recited by the congregation in The Gnostic Mass, in the sentence: "And I believe in the Serpent and the Lion, Mystery of Mystery, in His name BAPHOMET."
In Magick (Book 4), Crowley asserted that Baphomet was a divine androgyne and "the hieroglyph of arcane perfection": The Devil does not exist. It is a false name invented by the Black Brothers to imply a Unity in their ignorant muddle of dispersions. A devil who had unity would be a God... '
The Devil' is, historically, the God of any people that one personally dislikes... This serpent, SATAN, is not the enemy of Man, but He who made Gods of our race, knowing Good and Evil; He bade 'Know Thyself!' and taught Initiation. He is 'The Devil' of the Book of Thoth, and His emblem is BAPHOMET, the Androgyne who is the hieroglyph of arcane perfection... He is therefore Life, and Love. But moreover his letter is ayin, the Eye, so that he is Light; and his Zodiacal image is Capricornus, that leaping goat whose attribute is Liberty.
For Crowley, Baphomet is further a representative of the spiritual nature of the spermatozoa while also being symbolic of the "magical child" produced as a result of sex magic. As such, Baphomet represents the Union of Opposites, especially as mystically personified in Chaos and Babalon combined and biologically manifested with the sperm and egg united in the zygote.
Crowley proposed that Baphomet was derived from "Father Mithras". In his Confessions he describes the circumstances that led to this etymology:[52] I had taken the name Baphomet as my motto in the O.T.O. For six years and more I had tried to discover the proper way to spell this name. I knew that it must have eight letters, and also that the numerical and literal correspondences must be such as to express the meaning of the name in such a ways as to confirm what scholarship had found out about it, and also to clear up those problems which archaeologists had so far failed to solve.... One theory of the name is that it represents the words βαφὴ μήτεος, the baptism of wisdom; another, that it is a corruption of a title meaning "Father Mithras". Needless to say, the suffix R supported the latter theory. I added up the word as spelt by the Wizard. It totalled 729. This number had never appeared in my Cabbalistic working and therefore meant nothing to me. It however justified itself as being the cube of nine. The word κηφας, the mystic title given by Christ to Peter as the cornerstone of the Church, has this same value. So far, the Wizard had shown great qualities! He had cleared up the etymological problem and shown why the Templars should have given the name Baphomet to their so-called idol. Baphomet was Father Mithras, the cubical stone which was the corner of the Temple.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MithraPersian and Parthian-speaking Manichaeans used the name of Mithra current in their time (Mihryazd, q.e. Mithra-yazata) for two different Manichaean angels. The first, called Mihryazd by the Persians, was the "The Living Spirit" (Aramaic rūḥā ḥayyā), a savior-figure who rescues the "First Man" from the demonic Darkness into which he had plunged. The second, known as Mihr or Mihr yazd among the Parthians, is "The Messenger" (Aramaic īzgaddā), likewise a savior figure, but one concerned with setting up the structures to liberate the Light lost when the First Man had been defeated. German academic Werner Sundermann has asserted that the Manicheans adopted the name Mithra to designate one of their own deities. Sundermann determined that the Zoroastrian Mithra, which in Middle Persian is Mihr (in Russian "Mir" = world), is not a variant of the Parthian and Sogdian Mytr or Mytrg; though sharing linguistic roots with the name Mithra, those names denote Maitreya. In Parthian and Sogdian however Mihr was taken as the sun and consequently identified as the Third Messenger. This Third Messenger was the helper and redeemer of mankind, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashnu en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sraosha ;D
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