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Post by skyward on Feb 21, 2008 15:43:00 GMT -5
Can you tell me, if I seem so wrong to you, which is iamaphoney's name? > Martin Lind, Ian Martin, or Billy ? "He" has used all three. Don't leave just yet, Charrigan... I'll answer your question. There is no Ian Martin---I'd wager that it's a pseudonym used by Ian Walsh of the 90's Danish grunge band Boghandle. It's Ian + Martin Lind, his former bandmate and best friend. But Martin Lind's involvement in this is minimal at best, and there is no "Billy". So....are the iamaphoneys all former members of the band Boghandle? I wouldn't say their music sucked, but to each his own. A variety of leads have been followed; there have been Wiki pages & YouTube videos. And at the end of the day, so what? What does it matter in regard to who is posting the videos? The one thing that I might expect someone to say is that this is all a marketing campaign to promote their band and perhaps a new album release of 'Reversed Beatles' Musical Adaptations'. Now, I would also assume that SirPaul and related partners might not appreciate the YouTube presence that misleads casual browsers, so I might expect the YouTube presence to be under some form of scrutiny. So let's assume that Charrigan knows that something is in the works. So what? I don't know how any of this is relevant as far as discrediting any of the 'discoveries' within the RA series. Something simple like the ROXOR mirroring seems legit. I think one of the more ineteresting aspects of RA has been to link SirPaul to a variety of symbolic imagery and artwork. That might not have much to do with a replacement, or PID or any of that, but it is interesting none-the-less.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 21, 2008 15:58:45 GMT -5
I haven't seen the Who Buried Paul Mccartney documentary - guess no one else on here has either. What did you want to say about that documentary ? I've seen it. It's good, but not as entertaining as the trailer at www.whoburiedpaulmccartney.com would lead you to believe. The trailer leads you to believe that it's a genuine PID documentary ("Well, maybe he DID die"). But the documentary treats PID purely as an urban legend and not as a phenomena requiring more investigation in and of itself. It's largely Fred LaBour pretending to scold himself (but actually praising himself) for having started the PID rumor (as though the stupid a**hole had actually designed the Sgt Pepper and Abbey Road album covers). Really, if you have a serious interest in PID/PWR, you won't be able to watch this documentary without wanting to plant your foot onto his rhinestone cowboy a**.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 21, 2008 16:02:39 GMT -5
I haven't seen the Who Buried Paul Mccartney documentary - guess no one else on here has either. What did you want to say about that documentary ? ehmm, i've seen it and someone in it says he knows something he will take in his grave That was Russ Gibb, the disc jockey who took Tom Zarski's phone call -- that was the guy who urged Gibb to play Revolution 9 backwards. That was what started the whole thing. I think that what Gibb actually says is that he knows something that he doesn't want repeated in his own lifetime, but I didn't get the idea that Gibb himself was PID/PWR or that his secret had anything to do with that.
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Post by B on Feb 21, 2008 16:03:38 GMT -5
Yesterday Letter B wrote: I am quite surprised to see that you so easily dismiss commendatore's post above. It's like this, even if commendatore had the suitcase, he would still be lacking the ability to amuse me. He was really not hard to spot as a impostor anyways. If you go back and look how Phoney built his credibility, it wasn't by coming in here and making dry remarks like " I have the hidden key of enlightenment, please listen to me", for example. IMO, Phoney has done some remarkable work. Whether or not Phoney has the holy grail, I don't know, I still enjoy his work. I plan on staying on board with Phoney, but if any other players show up thats not a bad thing, I just have yet to see any. Thank you for taking the time to post the explanation, faullible. I was just curious.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 21, 2008 16:04:27 GMT -5
WHOBURIEDPAULMCCARTNEY.COM Wouten. van Opdorp - Hollandwood Pictures - Amsterdam But really - none of you have heard the names: Martin Lind or Ian Martin? Honestly, I can't believe that you haven't, if you've been into the Rotten Apple Series for some time. Isn't there some sort of truncated wiki biography that suggests that iamaphoney is Ian Martin? I remember that there was something silly-sounding about it and that wikipedia didn't keep it up.
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Post by commendatore on Feb 21, 2008 17:57:20 GMT -5
Yesterday Letter B wrote: I am quite surprised to see that you so easily dismiss commendatore's post above. It's like this, even if commendatore had the suitcase, he would still be lacking the ability to amuse me. He was really not hard to spot as a impostor anyways. If you go back and look how Phoney built his credibility, it wasn't by coming in here and making dry remarks like " I have the hidden key of enlightenment, please listen to me", for example. IMO, Phoney has done some remarkable work. Whether or not Phoney has the holy grail, I don't know, I still enjoy his work. I plan on staying on board with Phoney, but if any other players show up thats not a bad thing, I just have yet to see any. I guess no one appreciates (or understands) my "I know iaap's secret" humor. I'm ahead of my time I suppose. I do, however, believe that iaap has an assload of crap he knows. How else would he be able to go globe trotting so easily?
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Post by MikeNL on Feb 21, 2008 18:44:02 GMT -5
Yesterday Letter B wrote: I am quite surprised to see that you so easily dismiss commendatore's post above. It's like this, even if commendatore had the suitcase, he would still be lacking the ability to amuse me. He was really not hard to spot as a impostor anyways. If you go back and look how Phoney built his credibility, it wasn't by coming in here and making dry remarks like " I have the hidden key of enlightenment, please listen to me", for example. IMO, Phoney has done some remarkable work. Whether or not Phoney has the holy grail, I don't know, I still enjoy his work. I plan on staying on board with Phoney, but if any other players show up thats not a bad thing, I just have yet to see any. I guess no one appreciates (or understands) my "I know iaap's secret" humor. I'm ahead of my time I suppose. I do, however, believe that iaap has an assload of crap he knows. How else would he be able to go globe trotting so easily? look man, we're trying serious to resolve PID here, and we are very close.. and most of us are betting on iamaphoney that he has something very important giving up false info isn't very nice you know, because it already is very confusing..
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Post by commendatore on Feb 21, 2008 19:30:43 GMT -5
I guess no one appreciates (or understands) my "I know iaap's secret" humor. I'm ahead of my time I suppose. I do, however, believe that iaap has an assload of crap he knows. How else would he be able to go globe trotting so easily? look man, we're trying serious to resolve PID here, and we are very close.. and most of us are betting on iamaphoney that he has something very important giving up false info isn't very nice you know, because it already is very confusing.. Now your making me feel guilty. I'm sorry for joking around, but I really doubt anyone took me seriously in the first place, so I don't have much to be sorry about. You all have to understand that this is all probably a big leg pull by iamaphoney in the first place. How would you feel if it was?
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Post by blackbird on Feb 21, 2008 19:51:12 GMT -5
"A big leg-pull by iamaphoney". . . . . NO WAY ! And if it were . . . . . I'd be VERY UNhappy! I think, maybe, you have more to tell us that may be important. So at this point, I'm willing to wait and see what you have to say. I'm not dismissing your remarks here. I was about to do that in the beginning - but now ! I think I need to wait and see what else you have.
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Post by skyward on Feb 21, 2008 20:10:45 GMT -5
You all have to understand that this is all probably a big leg pull by iamaphoney in the first place. How would you feel if it was? We have had this discussion, or a variant thereof, a few months ago and I think we all clearly understand that these videos could all be a big goof, and again, I ask, so what? If all of these videos are indeed a big joke of some sort, how does that erase some of the concrete information that is present in the videos? There are some things that are in the videos that IAAP Inc. has not 'made up', but rather they have put on display. Sure, I think we all have doubts about various aspects of the videos, regarding the legitimacy of clues, but some things can't be discredited by attempting to smear IAAP Inc. Some of the 'clues' are what they are no matter who put them on display.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 21, 2008 21:04:24 GMT -5
but I really doubt anyone took me seriously in the first place, so I don't have much to be sorry about. Well when you said: ...the suitcase, yes, THE suitcase....Well cmon.. All that was missing was the dramatic pause. I know the difference between someone having a bit of fun, (kinda obvious in your case) and someone who has a seriousness of purpose. Whether IAAP's seriousness of purpose is of good intent or not remains to be seen I guess. One way or another it has to play itself out; we will see given enough time, and we got plenty of that.
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Post by 65if2007 on Feb 21, 2008 22:48:13 GMT -5
but I really doubt anyone took me seriously in the first place, so I don't have much to be sorry about. Well when you said: ...the suitcase, yes, THE suitcase....Well cmon.. All that was missing was the dramatic pause. I know the difference between someone having a bit of fun, (kinda obvious in your case) and someone who has a seriousness of purpose. Whether IAAP's seriousness of purpose is of good intent or not remains to be seen I guess. One way or another it has to play itself out; we will see given enough time, and we got plenty of that. I'm not so sure that we have plenty of time. Doesn't it seem as though -- if it's not otherwise exposed -- the truth will be buried when Sir Paul is?
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Post by Doc on Feb 22, 2008 3:14:15 GMT -5
"A big leg-pull by iamaphoney". . . . . NO WAY ! And if it were . . . . . I'd be VERY UNhappy! I think, maybe, you have more to tell us that may be important. So at this point, I'm willing to wait and see what you have to say. I'm not dismissing your remarks here. I was about to do that in the beginning - but now ! I think I need to wait and see what else you have. Your work has been nicely detailed. So what if things are moving slow. They usually do around PID/PWR sites! If it got going too fast, it might make the others a-board sick! We can only take just a little at a time anyway, or we collectively burp. And that'a messy. So, slow as she goes, Cap'n.
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Post by mindgames on Feb 22, 2008 5:44:36 GMT -5
If I see him I'll warn him that he has a crazy stalker named Mike that probably has a cement celler, a slop bucket and a old beta cam waiting for him, ofcourse I will know it is him, from his fabulous follicles on the back of his head.
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Post by mindgames on Feb 22, 2008 6:52:32 GMT -5
I'll tell you how, have some balls and come out with your face and your name and stand by it.
The fear remains if you remain hidden. They are not going to pop off someone that comes right out up front and lays it all out at one time, because then they would be validating the accusations or creating a martyr.
All they can do is put the Lunatic or Liar spin on it. This is how Alex Jones and Kathy O'brien and David Ike can come right out and reveal stuff or they could be in on it and revealing the method to invalidate the truth and propagate the lunatic, liar image, either way YOU have the messenger to examine which is a vital piece of information to have when looking for truth.
At some point all this mystery has made the messenger more important than the message. Which really makes me wonder about the usernames that come here and continue to hype up the mystery. Since I don't have the messenger to examine I can only examine the videos and isn't that suppose to be the point of aninimity in the 1st place?
Truth shines in the light and aninimity does not make you safe so everyone questioning the truthfulness of the videos and real motive of Iamphonies aninimity might be on a faster path to enlightenment than those that are just desperate to know who he or it is.
"A question of motive, and I'm with you here Jude, it does not make much sense to go through all this just for kicks.
Another question of motive could apply to those who poo-poo the RA series, especially when you read some of the comments at the various YouTube pages.
Assume that someone out there did come up with significant information regarding PID or PWR, how should they approach the release of material?
I have seen some questionable videos in the RA series, but on the whole, they have been a fine resource of information, at the least. "
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Post by skyward on Feb 22, 2008 11:28:46 GMT -5
I'll tell you how, have some balls and come out with your face and your name and stand by it. The fear remains if you remain hidden. They are not going to pop off someone that comes right out up front and lays it all out at one time, because then they would be validating the accusations or creating a martyr. All they can do is put the Lunatic or Liar spin on it. This is how Alex Jones and Kathy O'brien and David Ike can come right out and reveal stuff or they could be in on it and revealing the method to invalidate the truth and propagate the lunatic, liar image, either way YOU have the messenger to examine which is a vital piece of information to have when looking for truth. At some point all this mystery has made the messenger more important than the message. Which really makes me wonder about the usernames that come here and continue to hype up the mystery. Since I don't have the messenger to examine I can only examine the videos and isn't that suppose to be the point of aninimity in the 1st place? Truth shines in the light and aninimity does not make you safe so everyone questioning the truthfulness of the videos and real motive of Iamphonies aninimity might be on a faster path to enlightenment than those that are just desperate to know who he or it is. ; I would first consider the context of each situation, when you step forward from anonymity, you are able to cash in on any claim and the people you mentioned are all doing that. That is one motive that is used to discredit another's claim, 'Ah, they're just doing it for the money and cashing in on the conspiracy crowd'. As it is, I have read plenty of malicious comments aimed at IAAP Inc. at the YouTube pages, and if they were to step forward to announce themselves, I don't think they would be welcomed with open arms in some corners of the world. I wouldn't ask them to sacrifice themselves in order to satisfy my curiosity. And the videos, they are built on a premise and, for the most part, they are delivering materials, clues, what have you, that seem to support that premise. It should be relatively easy for a viewer to scrutinize the videos and come away with a 'take it or leave it' attitude. It does not matter to me who is posting and producing the videos. It takes me longer to browse through some written messages on forums than it does for me to watch an RA video, so in that regard I don't think there is an overbearing investment required to follow the series.
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Post by MikeNL on Feb 22, 2008 11:41:38 GMT -5
I'll tell you how, have some balls and come out with your face and your name and stand by it. The fear remains if you remain hidden. They are not going to pop off someone that comes right out up front and lays it all out at one time, because then they would be validating the accusations or creating a martyr. All they can do is put the Lunatic or Liar spin on it. This is how Alex Jones and Kathy O'brien and David Ike can come right out and reveal stuff or they could be in on it and revealing the method to invalidate the truth and propagate the lunatic, liar image, either way YOU have the messenger to examine which is a vital piece of information to have when looking for truth. At some point all this mystery has made the messenger more important than the message. Which really makes me wonder about the usernames that come here and continue to hype up the mystery. Since I don't have the messenger to examine I can only examine the videos and isn't that suppose to be the point of aninimity in the 1st place? Truth shines in the light and aninimity does not make you safe so everyone questioning the truthfulness of the videos and real motive of Iamphonies aninimity might be on a faster path to enlightenment than those that are just desperate to know who he or it is. ; I would first consider the context of each situation, when you step forward from anonymity, you are able to cash in on any claim and the people you mentioned are all doing that. That is one motive that is used to discredit another's claim, 'Ah, they're just doing it for the money and cashing in on the conspiracy crowd'. As it is, I have read plenty of malicious comments aimed at IAAP Inc. at the YouTube pages, and if they were to step forward to announce themselves, I don't think they would be welcomed with open arms in some corners of the world. I wouldn't ask them to sacrifice themselves in order to satisfy my curiosity. And the videos, they are built on a premise and, for the most part, they are delivering materials, clues, what have you, that seem to support that premise. It should be relatively easy for a viewer to scrutinize the videos and come away with a 'take it or leave it' attitude. It does not matter to me who is posting and producing the videos. It takes me longer to browse through some written messages on forums than it does for me to watch an RA video, so in that regard I don't think there is an overbearing investment required to follow the series. people want to know what/who iamaphoney is because they simply are telling they have the holy grail for PID, and they are doing it in such a mysterious way that you WANT to know who it is... and btw; i do not have a cement celler, a slop bucket and an old beta cam. if you would like to know ;D
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Post by commendatore on Feb 23, 2008 22:12:01 GMT -5
Hehehehehehehe....
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Post by mommybird on Feb 24, 2008 15:03:14 GMT -5
That is one of my greatest fears.
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Post by mindgames on Feb 29, 2008 8:39:27 GMT -5
Ofcourse they won't be welcomed especially from Faul's circle, but if they are in any real danger they'd be safer. I'm simply saying that the messenger has become more important than the message.
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Post by jarvitronics on Feb 29, 2008 11:18:42 GMT -5
<snip> I'm simply saying that the messenger has become more important than the message. That's what I think too. The videos are trippy and cool, (though I have no idea what the hell he is trying to communicate). But to suck into the game he is playing seems rather droll. -j
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Post by MikeNL on Feb 29, 2008 12:25:47 GMT -5
Ofcourse they won't be welcomed especially from Faul's circle, but if they are in any real danger they'd be safer. I'm simply saying that the messenger has become more important than the message. i think the messenger and the message are both important, just who ARE iamaphoney, and how does he get his info... that's kinda weird everything is weird, everything is magic
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Post by Paul Bearer on Mar 11, 2008 2:15:41 GMT -5
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Post by CoconutFudge on Mar 11, 2008 2:39:59 GMT -5
I didn't even know that board existed! Is new registration required or have I just forgotten my password since I constantly remain logged in here?! I don't have answers to his questions other than pure and utter speculation, but I would be interested in the answers as well. Similar thoughts crossed my mind. Thanks for bringing that up, Paul Bearer! I hope someone who can answer does so.
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Post by tafultong on Mar 17, 2008 18:36:56 GMT -5
Did anybody notice that there has been a change in the "schedule" on Iamaphoney's YouTube page? What used to say "8002" now says "80020307-06"
I guess that is to coincide with "Isn't it Lily"
So it appears he is only planning one more video between now and the interview that may or may not happen.
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