ericnapster
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Post by ericnapster on Oct 4, 2012 18:48:50 GMT -5
I recently posted about this image: To me, if anything ever looked like an occult/illuminati symbol, it would be this, and being that it is stamped on the dead wax area of certain Beatles albums would only fuel my imagination. But, if you look hard enough, you will find a rational, real world explanation, of what it is and why it's on Beatles albums. Let's see if we can come up with an explanation for the following Beatles vinyl anomaly. I had heard of this a while back, but my recent internet searches yielded few results. I believe this is relatively unknown. Please see the following youtube video: Vinyl Beatles Albums That Change Color Under Blacklight
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FXoyn0J2z2QPlease help me to answer the following questions: Is the information in the video true? Does it only occur on Beatles albums? Are they random patterns, or can symbols and or patterns be discerned? If so, what clues do they yield? How was this done? Who did this and why? Does this phenomenon occur only on albums manufactured at certain plants? Is the triangle symbol really just a union stamp? Are they radioactive? Is there anything else about the vinyl or cardboard that we should look at? How has this been missed for almost 50 years? Did I fail to ask any relevant questions? I don't have any Beatles albums, a black light, or any more information. I'm counting on the members of this forum to help solve this.
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Post by B on Oct 4, 2012 19:19:41 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Oct 4, 2012 19:20:10 GMT -5
No, we've talked about this before, either here or at tkin. I remember. I was talking to an astronaut about it remember that, guys? lol ;D
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Post by ericnapster on Oct 4, 2012 19:26:47 GMT -5
Yes, I do remember the astronaut! That's where I first heard it. I will follow the link and see if my questions were answered. Should I delete this post?
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Post by B on Oct 4, 2012 19:30:33 GMT -5
No.
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Post by ericnapster on Oct 4, 2012 19:34:24 GMT -5
So, it's the Scranton albums with the IAM triangle on them that glow.
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Post by iameye on Oct 4, 2012 19:37:08 GMT -5
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Post by B on Oct 4, 2012 19:50:20 GMT -5
So, it's the Scranton albums with the IAM triangle on them that glow. I can't speak for the Los Angeles ones, but as far as I know, only the Scranton ones do, and not all of them. I don't think we've discussed the triangle itself, though.
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Post by iameye on Oct 4, 2012 19:55:36 GMT -5
So, it's the Scranton albums with the IAM triangle on them that glow. I can't speak for the Los Angeles ones, but as far as I know, only the Scranton ones do, and not all of them. LOL ;D
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Post by ericnapster on Oct 4, 2012 20:15:07 GMT -5
Scranton was noted for its "thicker" records which used more vinyl
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Post by linus on Oct 4, 2012 21:33:27 GMT -5
Same color as... I wonder what this looks like under a black light.
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Post by ericnapster on Oct 4, 2012 22:18:11 GMT -5
Here's the link to the original astronaut post in the 60if board. 60if.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=document&action=print&thread=777These comments are pasted from that post: ...this is high tech stuff in 1967..........and to what gain? not marketed or promoted....no mention from fans in over 30+ years....hmmmmm ... Got a Paulish face right at the top on side two, in fact some see faces scattered all over. That's the micro view, the macro view IMO is that it depicts an eclipse. From the persective of where is a good question
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Post by ericnapster on Oct 4, 2012 22:31:03 GMT -5
Grace Kelly born on November 12, 1929
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Post by B on Oct 4, 2012 22:32:14 GMT -5
from link in Reply 12 above:
"Re: A weird post at George-Martin.com Post by beatled on Jul 3, 2006, 3:35am
Just an FYI Byrds, the Glowing Pepper is indeed from Scranton. Telling which factory is a simple matter, they put a symbol in the dead wax depending on where; in the case of Scranton a triangle with "IAM" in the middle. If the astronaut bought the album on the first day of release in LA, it stands to reason his copy was from the LA factory..
I'd give a link here, but it seems the site where I originally found this is no more, glad I saved this:
THE COVERS
East coast covers differ from west coast covers in several subtle ways.
In most cases the original artwork was delivered to the East coast printers first, resulting in clearer images and truer colors on east coast printings
Although not always consistent, the small numbers printed next to the RIAA seal can help determine when and where a record was pressed.
Numbers 2,3,4,5,6,7 are always from the mid 60s
Numbers 9,11,12,16 can be from the later 60s/early 70s.
Numbers 17,18,21 are usually always early to late 70s. ( Strangely, 19 can be from the 60s )
East coast pressings are usually marked with the numbers #2 , #3 ( Scranton) and #4 ( Jacksonville), or the absence of any number at all.
West coast pressings are marked with the numbers #5, #6, and #7.( Los Angeles)
THE RECORDS
The records also give some clues as to the time and place of production. There is still much confusion regarding the actual prefix to numbers in the dead wax however there are symbols that clearly show factory origin.
A small Triangle containing the letters IAM denotes the Scranton Factory
A Small " snowflake" type logo denotes Los Angeles
A circle, sometimes broken ( ) denotes Jacksonville
During times of great demand it was also not unusual to find LPs subcontracted to other record manufacturers most notably, RCA and Decca.
RCA pressings usually have a small "R" or the full " RCA" in the dead wax. and the circular depression in the label is much larger than that of Capitol's.
Decca is harder to determine as far as markings, however the circular depression in the label is somewhat smaller that Capitol's.
THE LABELS
West coast labels tend to have more " elongated " print than those of east coast origin. Jacksonville labels are characterized by extremely small print, especially on the " Revolver" LP.
Labels showing Capitol as a " Subsidiary " are not original pressings , and were released approximately around 1968.
INNER SLEEVES
Most Beatle albums were packaged with a Capitol Inner Sleeve. These sleeves also help to date Lps as well as show factory origin.
Stating in 1964 with the Meet the Beatles LP, Capitol used a darker blue inner sleeve . Factory designation 12-TC-1. Later in the year the color became a somewhat brighter blue.
By the end of 1964 the blue sleeve was replaced by a rust or orange red " teen set " sleeve. Factory designation PE-12-2AS ( Scranton) or PE 12-2AL ( Los Angeles)
By about the time of the " Help" LP, Capitol replaced the orange sleeve with a lime or olive green inner sleeve promoting "Capitol's New Improved Full Dimensional Stereo" Factory designations were (PE 12-2ES) Scranton, (PE 12-2BL) Los Angeles, and the new factory in Jacksonville, IL (PE 12-2EJ). Later east coast copies have a black bar at the bottom of the sleeve
The orange "Capitol '66" sleeve replaced the olive colored '65 sleeve early in 1966. Again there exist copies for each factory, numbered PE 12-2FS (Scranton), PE 12-3BL (Los Angeles), and PE 12-2FJ (Jacksonville).
At the end of 1967 Capitol began using plain white inner sleeves. However there are examples of a tan sleeve showing "Rubber Soul", "Yesterday and Today", and "Revolver" as well as many other Capitol releases being used in this time period. The Scranton copies of the sleeve are numbered PE 12-4BS, with LA copies having the designation PE 12-4BL, and Jacksonville copies being called PE 12-4BJ.
SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND
First pressings omit the Maclen Music copyright statement in the lower right hand corner of the back cover and do not have "© 1967 NEMS" anywhere on the back cover.
Transitional pressings from late 1967 to mid-1968 have the copyright to NEMS added along the spine or down at the bottom left or bottom right corner of the back cover.
Pressings from 1968 on have both the NEMS and Maclen copyrights."
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Post by B on Oct 4, 2012 22:53:01 GMT -5
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Oct 5, 2012 4:14:24 GMT -5
I hope It's ok to post this. I posted this while I was in the black I have solved the entire Beatles enigma, at least to my own satisfaction. It is obvious to anyone that has looked into this in depth. By this I mean, the backward messages (even in Yoko tracks), the bizarre connections, and coincidences, the body doubles, the album cover, photographic and video strangeness, Paul being knighted by the Queen, Sir George Martins intelligence connections, the 1960's high tech fluorescent messages on the Beatles vinyl albums etc, that the Beatles "clues" weren't placed by some stoned musicians in order to mess with the minds of some dope smoking hippie's. All of this smells like a complex intelligence operation of the highest order with, in typical intelligence agency fashion, the Paul is dead rumour, and now the occult connections being propagated as window dressing. Yep, Paul as the Golden agent. It is multi-faceted, but it looks like the clues were a means of communication to spy's during the cold war. As far as the post 1969 clues go, some of the same elements can be found in regards to the JFK assassination. This fluorescent vinyl thing is what opened my eyes. " ...this is high tech stuff in 1967..........and to what gain?" not marketed or promoted....no mention from fans in over 30+ years....hmmmmm ... "Got a Paulish face right at the top on side two, in fact some see faces scattered all over. " Wow, what better way to communicate pictures to spies in the 1960's. If they didn't do this, they should have! A google search will yield results like this, and more: One of the innovations for night and all-weather flying used by the US, UK, Japan and Germany during World War II was the use of UV interior lighting to illuminate the instrument panel, giving a safer alternative to the radium-painted instrument faces and pointers, and an intensity that could be varied easily and without visible illumination that would give away an aircraft's position. This went so far as to include the printing of charts that were marked in UV-fluorescent inks, and the provision of UV-visible pencils and slide rules such as the E6B. Can anyone prove me wrong? Any COMINTS? If you tell me that we've been down this road before, then I'll have to say that someone took a wrong turn. after 6 years with hundreds of contributors not one person has proved that any of these these theories are correct. there is no justice for muckrakers. "the clues were planted for spies during the cold war." and kenneth anger lived in the russian embassy in san francisco. i dont mean to be rude or direct this idea specifically at you but these views are poison. i never cared for iamaphoney because he used that horrible tactic of calling aleister crowley a "satanist". which is neither here nor there it was the way in which the word was said i found disturbingly biased. and if it happens once how can i be certain the whole film - or theory - isnt ripe with ego charming bias? fear builds ego. i see a lot of shadows in your post. thats the wrong turn my friend. i dont want to point fingers eternally but i would like to chastise you for being so profoundly lazy with your imagination. "motherfucker think better!" youre never getting out with doom and gloom. thats what got us into the loser movie acting out the loser script. i work for the marines as a behavioral scientist and i specialize in psychological operations. the whole purpose behind these operations is to create allies out of our "enemies" prevent nuclear war and the sudden escalation of violence in unstable areas. im also a 19th degree freemason and just received the fourth degree in the oto. i havent had to pray once or swear allegiance to satan or lucifer once. my father in law is a deacon and my aunt is a nun. my wifes brother works for nasa and my brother is a pot farmer in northern california. my father and his father and his fathers father were police officers. my neice married mayor bloombergs nephew. ive been to bohemian grove the past three summers. i take chicken fingers from the buffet and wrap them in napkins for later. kissinger saw me and shook his head. i bet youve never seen henry kissinger smile. ive made him smile. i also have told alexander haig he needed his colon cleansed. he pinched me so har where my neck meets my shoulder i passed out and woke up to see alexander haig and henry kissinger rolling on the floor laughing and pointing at me. i had a really bad headache. the next month after graduating from college i was offered a job by the marines. ive been in switzerland collecting beatles memorabilia for years now. i also initiate meager rock bands that come to zurich into the illuminati. just to see how gullible and easy to manipulate they are. im ancatholic after all. no one ever seems to recognize that aspect of rosicrucianism though. its a shame.
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Post by ericnapster on Oct 5, 2012 4:52:36 GMT -5
Wow Seasalt, I don't know what to say. I didn't indent any bias in this post. It just seemed like a logical conclusion. and yes I got carried away and through some things in that I shouldn't have. It was foolish. I deleted the post.
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Post by iameye on Oct 5, 2012 6:17:02 GMT -5
Wow, SSC. Why don't you invite your friends over here to the Big Invitation? Everybody knows it's by word of mouth And maybe you'll get a raise to 34th degree! lol
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Post by beacon on Oct 5, 2012 7:36:14 GMT -5
Eric, claiming that you had solved the whole Beatles enigma was probably going too far, but don't be put off by negativity and you certainly shouldn't feel that you have to delete posts.
It is good that people like you are still trying to investigate and disseminate - that is what this forum purports to do - and we should all be working together on this.
I am sure that none of us want this forum to die on it's arse like TKIN but it will do unless people keep looking for new clues and information and are prepared to share that.
We all have our own ideas and agendas, and that is fine, but if we don't agree then we should just say that rather than dripping poison.
Eric, I am not sure I have anything to add to this thread at the moment but keep on working it, it is good stuff!
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Post by iameye on Oct 5, 2012 7:41:55 GMT -5
Anyway, SSC, I'm surprised you can't read through the lines written using your newly found "chinese baseball cap" universe speak theory "the clues were planted for spies during the cold war."[/color] The Spy who Loved Me lol Hey don't feel afraid Of an undercover aid There's no need to fuss There ain't nobody that spies like us!
Sp-eyes like us
We don't know the meaning of fear We play every minute by earOne for all and all for one Everybody's on the runEspecially at this time of year www.paulmccartney.com/web/guest/upcoming-tour-dates;jsessionid=E25035BC705896B7FBD8FF8119A267AB.lr1PR
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Post by iameye on Oct 5, 2012 7:58:41 GMT -5
I am sure that none of us want this forum to die on it's arse like TKIN but it will do unless people keep looking for new clues and information and are prepared to share that. TKIN fell on it's arse because I left, plain and simple. And that's OK. Want new clues? Head back to TKIN with the new information that I like to talk to Astronauts. You may be very surprised at what you find, or you can stay here where I'm STILL live, and not on my arse - Talking to Astronauts and Spies LIKE US! lol ;D
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Post by beacon on Oct 5, 2012 8:17:10 GMT -5
I am sure that none of us want this forum to die on it's arse like TKIN but it will do unless people keep looking for new clues and information and are prepared to share that. TKIN fell on it's arse because I left, plain and simple. And that's OK. Want new clues? Head back to TKIN with the new information that I like to talk to Astronauts. You may be very surprised at what you find, or you can stay here where I'm STILL live, and not on my arse - Talking to Astronauts and Spies LIKE US! lol ;D Lucy in the sky with astronauts?
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Post by iameye on Oct 5, 2012 8:25:09 GMT -5
Oh, that wasn't very nice, Beacon.
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Post by beacon on Oct 5, 2012 8:29:35 GMT -5
Oh, that wasn't very nice, Beacon. No offence intended!
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Post by iameye on Oct 5, 2012 8:29:47 GMT -5
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