Revolution 9 -- Title is A Clue

[Will]

Oct 16, 2015 6:31:13 GMT -5 beacon said:

Pepper time: the band begins at ten to six

It is difficult to know where to start with these awesome posts; I guess with some preliminary thoughts: I love the fact that you have made something from the Ringo Rotogravure clue; it has bugged me for years that I couldn’t find anything. Let’s stick with the ‘backdoor’ theme.

The lyrics from ‘She’s Leaving Home’, which begin with “Wednesday morning at five o’clock…” another time reference, also contain the line “quietly turning the backdoor key.”


Is the RAOB character holding a key?

issuu.com/redweltrabant/docs/the_sgt_pepper_code/c/sc4yhwv



If Lewis Carroll is the key to the temple door then what is at the back of the door (Dors) is the 'door keeper'. The Beatles door keeper was Neil Aspinall, however, originally Apollo – the urban spaceman - was Paul.

Diana Dors, like the waxwork Beatles, came from Madame Tussauds, which is, of course, a House of Wax.



Madame Tussauds in London also houses the planetarium and its domed roof features a planetary symbol that brings to mind the Rugby trophy featured on the Pepper cover.

It is located on the Marylebone Road which is very close to where Paul lived when he resided with the Asher’s on Wimpole Street.

Madame Tussaud was experienced at making death masks.



Hidden in the yard
underneath the wall
buried deep below
A
Thousand
Layers
...lay the answer to it all.

This is just pure stream of consciousness, random thought stuff but, my first thought when I read Yard, was Scotland Yard; home of the Metropolitan Police (Robert Peel – founder of the Met – appears on the Pepper cover) and somewhere that secrets may be stored. The original home was called Great Scotland Yard where, buried deep below, is an unfinished, or abandoned, tunnel. From Wiki; Great Scotland Yard is best known as the location of the rear entrance to the original headquarters of the Metropolitan Police Service of London. It is a back door!

The duchess of Kircaldy always smiling
And arriving late for tea
The duke was having problems
With a message At The Local bird and bee

Kirkcaldy is in Scotland. This site tells an interesting tale about the origin of the lyrics; John Lennon is said to have named the imaginary “Duchess of Kirkcaldy” from the Beatles Song ‘Cry, Baby Cry’ after the wife of the concert organiser.

He was rumoured to have visited Fife on several occasions to stay with the woman, whose name is not known.

Not quite sure where that gets us but the concert was in 1963. Maybe it is a reference to someone who knows the truth?

However, the lyric "It's time for tea and Meet the Wife", which links both tea and time, comes from another Pepper song, ‘Good morning, good morning’.

Alternatively, back door could refer to the back cover of Pepper and tea time could be another Alice in Wonderland clue: Chapter Seven – A Mad Tea-Party
Alice finds the March Hare, the Hatter, and the Dormouse sitting all together at one end of a large table. The Dormouse sits between the other two, fast asleep. They are disagreeable from the start, and Alice's conversation with them is confusing even by Wonderland standards. They contradict Alice at every turn, correcting her with confusing arguments that have their own strange logic. Much of the conversation is about time. The Hatter's watch, which only tells the day of the month, is broken. The Hatter also tells Alice that Time (which he talks about as if it were a person) stopped working for him about a month ago, when the Queen of Hearts accused the Hatter of murdering the time. Since then, it's always been six o'clock, which is why they sit at tea all the time. All the places at the table are set, because they don't have time to do the dishes. When they want a clean plate, they just move to another spot.

The Dormouse begins to tell a strange story about three sisters who live in a well; Alice's questions and contradictions anger the Dormouse, and the Hatter and March Hare grow increasingly rude to her. Finally, Alice leaves, disgusted, turning around as she goes to see the Hatter and the Hare trying to stuff the Dormouse into a pot of tea.

Alice wanders in the woods until she finds a tree with a door in it. She goes inside, and finds herself in the long hallway again. This time, she's prepared: she takes the key from the table and unlocks the door to the garden. She then eats just enough mushroom to step through the door, and she finds herself in the lovely garden.



The characters give Alice many riddles and stories, including the famous 'Why is a raven like a writing desk?'. Could this be a Poe clue?



This photo implies that Poe was the first character set-up; therefore implying he is central.

The Mad tea party is also reminiscent of the 1968 Mad day out photo shoot which culminated at Paul’s house with a shot of Paul’s domed meditation centre in his garden; the same garden that contains numerous Alice in Wonderland figurines.




On the back cover whose back do we see? Paul’s. Overlaid are the lyrics to ‘Within you, without you’, which as Fishdelusions said; really felt like a key to Sgt. Pepper.

In the Sgt Pepper Code I speculate that the lyrics to this song contain what I call ‘The Y Code’; issuu.com/redweltrabant/docs/the_sgt_pepper_code/c/sc4wthp which emanate again from the lyrics to ‘She’s leaving home’.



To reveal the code we must examine the lyrics to the song ‘She's Leaving Home’.

Firstly, take a pencil and paper and, starting at the beginning of the song lyrics, search for the letter Y. If you then go back three letters from each Y, and jot down the letter, you will reveal a hidden code.

Example: "Wedne(s)daY morning at five o'clock as th(e) daY begins. Sile(n)tlY closing her bedroom door. Leaving the note that she hoped woul(d) saY more. She goes downstairs to the kitchen clutching her handkerchief. Qui(e)tlY turning the backdoor(r) keY".

Applying this code reveals the phrase: SENDER MARY, which is pretty ambiguous except perhaps it points back to Marie Magdalene Dietrich.



Marie being Mary and Dietrich being German for skeleton key.

Just random thoughts though, need more time to consider all of this.

[Will]

Oct 17, 2015 3:31:22 GMT -5 Will said:

From earlier in the thread:

Ambush

The lamp that lights the way
Is a light from yesterday.
The drum which leads the way
Is a sound from yesterday




Ask The Law. If Apollo knew, then IAAP probably knows too.


In fact maybe in throwing in John's quip that Paul is God and we're all just layin' around, they actually revealed a bit more than what they had let on in 2012.








The Run Devil Run Store is on Broad Street in Atlanta. Can't really blame Paul, coming on the heels of Linda's death and at this point he was with Heather, who had been hit by a police motorcycle and lost her leg at a London Crosswalk on August 8th 1993.


Yeah, August 8th.

Hidden in the yard
underneath the wall
buried deep below
A
Thousand
Layers
...lay the answer to it all.

The story unfolds before your eyes and ears for those that connect the dots. Many of you see things that are not there. Much energy spent on ghosts that fail to materialize. Questions Asked That Lay unanswered which will add a crucial piece of the puzzle. Too many people doing too many things to notice the key that lies at your feet.
Get back to the basics. Tread old ground, for there are truly Flowers In The Dirt.

The duchess of Kircaldy always smiling
And arriving late for tea
The duke was having problems
With a message At The Local bird and bee.
Apollo

If I have made your investigations harder by showing you new "flowers in the dirt", I have done my job. You will soon discover the answers you seek to questions not yet asked. If you take my words and discredit the messenger, so be it. I am not here to supply you with answers. That is your job. I will however assist in any form that I am at liberty to share with you. "What did you see while you were there? Nothing that doesn't show."

Apollo

A True Life hero

Trek About The Latitudes?

I Am The Little neutrino

We were talking About The Love that's gone so cold (a line starting on Paul's backside by the way, a backdoor if you will)








That would seem to be a fairly healthy starting point with which to assert that The Answer seems to be the Is God Dead issue of Time on April 8th 1966, Julian Lennon's 3rd birthday, and the Atlanta based obituary for God in that issue dated November 9th 1965.

And from there, we would be left to extrapolate the rest...although certainly there are many more clues that help tell the story once you go down that rabbit hole.

Does this crowd really need to be told why this would be? Probably not, because although many apply clues to Paul is Dead, and rightfully so as he absolutely looks and acts differently after the fall of '66, a number of people have been going after these answers for years now. Crowley, LSD, mind expansion, various occultic theories, etc...see in my mind I don't think the Beatles were evil, even though the tug over who The Walrus was kind of feeds into an idea that someone was calling oysters (kids) out of the ocean and then somehow ate them (San Francisco); but it would seem to me that this is primarily about freedom, and yeah quite possibly The Beatles were a little bit hacked off at those who turned on them in August of '66 and sought to at the very least, correct that situation. The young people burning the records were sitting in Church every Sunday while their football teams were still All-White? No way in hell in my view were the Beatles going to just let that go.

And quite possibly too, there was more than a little fear that the Day The Music Died, previously stated as Elvis (Army), Little Richard (God), Jerry Lee Lewis (cousin), Chuck Berry (underage girl), Buddy Holly (plane crash), Eddie Cochran (car crash), etc...was a case of the fix being in and could it all happen again with what the Beatles faced that summer (Philippines, Record burnings, KKK threats and the Memphis Cherry Bomb scare) coupled with Dylan's accident happening the same day as Datebook publishing the Lennon interview.

In fact, this whole thing sounds a bit like something Don McLean cooked up, or maybe even heard somewhere.
A long, long time ago

The Marching Band refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed



We were talking about the space between us all. I think the Wall is the people on Sgt. Pepper's cover, the Yard is the grave and hidden in plain sight, is the ATL that's been right in front of all of us all along, the one a doll is pointing at. But like everything with the Beatles, double, even triple entendre's abound.

The story continues...

[B]

fishdelusions wrote:

The young people burning the records were sitting in Church every Sunday while their football teams were still All-White?
No way in hell in my view were the Beatles going to just let that go.

First of all, that's not entirely true, and also: the black population of the USA in the early '60s was 12%.
Now their basketball teams, maybe.

But the Beatles had 'bigger fish to fry'. I don't think they gave a rat's ass about who was on the football team.
Not saying they weren't concerned for the blacks, but the issue of segregation and black civil rights doesn't
jump right out when one considers the Beatles' work, regardless of anything Sir Paul says.
Yes, OK, I'll acknowledge "Ebony and Ivory", but that's not even a Beatles song.
Blackbird? Let's get serious! (No.)


"The Beatles' new record's a gas"
Ball of Confusion - The Temptations (who happened to be black, and didn't care that the Beatles weren't)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb8JZ5wQGKI

[Deleted]

A raven like a writing desk.

[Will]

Oct 17, 2015 21:33:32 GMT -5 B said:

fishdelusions wrote:

The young people burning the records were sitting in Church every Sunday while their football teams were still All-White?
No way in hell in my view were the Beatles going to just let that go.

First of all, that's not entirely true, and also: the black population of the USA in the early '60s was 12%.
Now their basketball teams, maybe.

But the Beatles had 'bigger fish to fry'. I don't think they gave a rat's ass about who was on the football team.
Not saying they weren't concerned for the blacks, but the issue of segregation and black civil rights doesn't
jump right out when one considers the Beatles' work, regardless of anything Sir Paul says.
Yes, OK, I'll acknowledge "Ebony and Ivory", but that's not even a Beatles song.
Blackbird? Let's get serious! (No.)


"The Beatles' new record's a gas"
Ball of Confusion - The Temptations (who happened to be black, and didn't care that the Beatles weren't)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb8JZ5wQGKI

B, the problem is I've got it stuck in my head that they actually addressed this at some point but I can't seem to find the quote so I'm stuck without attribution for the moment.

The larger point is though, and yes it was the KKK making death threats, that they weren't going to lay down for a bunch of people who weren't exactly on the side of righteousness so to speak, it was more like hypocrisy at that point. Obviously they apologized and let it go publicly, but this "coincidentally" is exactly when all of the mystery started too. By June of '67, no one was burning anything except gas.

August '66 is Old Testament, ancient history. September '66 is like a whole new world emerging and the whole story has been orchestrated to see it that way. But in reality, they're only days apart...one of the most brilliant things about Sgt. Pepper and their physical changes which preceded it, is that it served to completely obliterate the very things they potentially were avenging.

[maclen]

paul, at the memphis press conference in '66, said something along the lines of: there are bigots in both russia and america, only you hear more from american bigots

[Deleted]

Oct 17, 2015 21:57:05 GMT -5 lucy said:

A raven like a writing desk.

Sir Helmet Head

ancientlosttreasures.yuku.com/topic/6062/t/KNIGHTS-OF-THE-HELMET.html#.ViPsh6ShicU
lol

[B]

Man you should have seen them
soundcloud.com/olyfantastique/the-raven-by-edgar-allan-poe

[Will]

Oct 18, 2015 18:17:39 GMT -5 B said:

Man you should have seen them
soundcloud.com/olyfantastique/the-raven-by-edgar-allan-poe

And The Lamp-light o’er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted – nevermore!

[maclen]

only two people of color on the sgt. pepper album, if you include george's swami. now, that doesn't seem like what the beatles would do at all if they'd still had or even wanted a choice in the matter and if the concept was to have a large number of their heroes on the album cover, as has often been stated. seems like the cover's designer was guessing what the beatles would like to have included, and took liberties of his own for the other figures' inclusion. john's physical and mental deterioration following paul's removal is clearly evident from sgt pepper to his assasination, which imo made him a no-show as far as contributing anything to the beatles visual presentation to the public from that point forward. in fact, he tried to diminish their public image in interviews and songs following their creative destruction at the malevolent hands of . . .

to be continued

[Will]

Oct 18, 2015 22:58:21 GMT -5 maclen said:

only two people of color on the sgt. pepper album, if you include george's swami. now, that doesn't seem like what the beatles would do at all if they'd still had or even wanted a choice in the matter and if the concept was to have a large number of their heroes on the album cover, as has often been stated. seems like the cover's designer was guessing what the beatles would like to have included, and took liberties of his own for the other figures' inclusion. john's physical and mental deterioration following paul's removal is clearly evident from sgt pepper to his assasination, which imo made him a no-show as far as contributing anything to the beatles visual presentation to the public from that point forward. in fact, he tried to diminish their public image in interviews and songs following their creative destruction at the malevolent hands of . . .

to be continued

Are you familiar with the postings of Apollo C Vermouth? Rumored to be Neil Aspinall, his position on Sgt. Pepper as posted over a few years was quite different than the myth that the Sgt. Pepper cover was about People We Liked.

Every face on that cover tells a story.
Every plant, statue, doll, and prop. Each one a perspective clue. Each put there for a specific reason. Currently, on another thread, the inclusion of Shirley Temple, and her numerous sightings on the cover, is being discussed. I offered a take on the inclusion of Edgar Allen Poe. It all connects in the scope of things. Maybe, you will offer some differing angle on this very topic.

I happen to think he's telling the truth; that what was on Sgt. Pepper's cover told a story moreso than it being about people they admired, and this would certainly imply that they had their hand on every aspect of that cover, that they didn't is most likely another cleverly placed myth.

Now as far as John goes, no question he was not in peak condition in 1967. But realistically, if you were to compare John Lennon's creative output from 1967 to 1969 with say, every single song from every single artist in this entire Century, who would win? I think John, in 2nd gear perhaps, still arguably outproduced an entire generation with ease so I'd have to say he was still eminently capable of contributing to the overall visual message of The Beatles post '66. This is the guy who whipped off All You Need is Love as an afterthought. Decipher Glass Onion. The Walrus. Cry Baby Cry. Come Together. We're still trying almost 50 years later. War is over if you want it. What war was he talking about? What war was Harry Nillson talking about earlier in this thread with Ambush? Possibly not the same war we're all familiar with. That's what this thread is about. Someone died, someone maybe hid that in an album, perhaps as a gateway to something deeper, and then what happened in response?

By 1974, Paul is talking about The County Judge who held a grudge.
John is tied to a bed screaming It's all Roman Polanski's fault.

What are they talking about? Whatever it is, I think its safe to say they sense a response of sorts to something they themselves did, a boomerang.


He shoot Coca-Cola. Where were they headquartered again?




(No one ever wants to talk about the gunman...)

The dream is over
What can I say?
The dream is over
Yesterday
I was the dreamweaver
But now I'm reborn
I was the walrus
But now I'm John
And so, dear friends,
You'll just have to carry on
The dream is over

John in a lower gear was more clever than virtually every artist that ever lived, his primary competition were other Beatles.

The story line? In all truth, about 65% of what is written is based on things that actually happened. The remainder, sheer fantasy. Now, to figure what is, and what isn't. It was agreed, BY ALL INVOLVED, that once the "story" is told, not to deviate from any previous statements. You know, and I know, that there ARE clues to be found on Pepper. Just what those "clues" allude to, has not yet been figured out. But, when asked of John, George, or Ringo, there was always the "total rubbish" response. That is the story line. Deny! I have been accused of "jerking you all off" with my cryptic responses. Truth is, you've been jerked off from day one! THAT was part of the "story line." A little mystery for you to figure out.

Apollo

[maclen]

fish, the photo of the "rifleman" is one of the pictures from the double album, 'the beatles', is that correct?

[Will]

Oct 19, 2015 18:23:09 GMT -5 maclen said:

fish, the photo of the "rifleman" is one of the pictures from the double album, 'the beatles', is that correct?

Actually Timothy Carey was hidden behind George in Sgt. Pepper. One of those head-scratching things where you wonder what they meant by that?

[maclen]

well, carey didn't make it in the final cut, so perhaps nothing is meant by his non-appearance. what's your take, keeping in mind the weapon appears to have been excised in the preliminary photograph

[linus]

Carey is on the album cover, you can see his shoulder next to George's head.
The cutout is a from a frame from Kubrick's film The Killing.

He's hiding behind George, with his rifle pointing at John. The rifle is hidden behind Issy Bonn.
In the film he shoots a racehorse.
The Latin name for walrus is Odobenus Rosmarus, which means (tooth-walking) horse of the sea.
Red Rum was a famous racehorse in the '70s.
Wendy reads Catcher In The Rye at the beginning of The Shining(1980), in which Danny foresees bloodshed.
Stephen King named his book after Lennon's song Instant Karma, with its line "We all shine on, like the moon and the stars and the sun."

Redrum needs to be mirrored in order to be deciphered.
The L and H in Lonely Hearts alphanumerically represent 12 and 8, or 12/8, the day Lennon was shot.

[Will]

Oct 20, 2015 9:07:55 GMT -5 maclen said:

well, carey didn't make it in the final cut, so perhaps nothing is meant by his non-appearance. what's your take, keeping in mind the weapon appears to have been excised in the preliminary photograph

Well, he's not taken out like Hitler was, he's just hidden behind George; and I think you had to take the rifle out or else it would have hit George in the back of the head or maybe just slumped downward.

I don't know if I personally have a take on this; Come Together could track back to it, or it might not. I guess I do wonder though whether his being behind George is another sign as to the importance of Within You, Without You as containing an important clue. I've never really worked it out myself and have always been curious about what others think because I've never really seen him discussed.

[Will]

Oct 20, 2015 9:34:51 GMT -5 linus said:

Carey is on the album cover, you can see his shoulder next to George's head.
The cutout is a from a frame from Kubrick's film The Killing.

He's hiding behind George, with his gun pointing at John.
In the film he shoots a racehorse.
Red Rum was a famous racehorse in the '70s.
Wendy reads Catcher In The Rye at the beginning of The Shining(1980), in which Danny foresees bloodshed.
Stephen King named his book after Lennon's song Instant Karma, with its line "We all shine on, like the moon and the stars and the sun."

Redrum needs to be mirrored in order to be deciphered.
The L and H in Lonely Hearts alphanumerically represent 12 and 8, or 12/8, the day Lennon was shot.

Hey Linus!

[maclen]

i thank both you'all for considering my thoughts on this. however you're way out of my league in the prophesies department, so i leave it to you to kick that particular can around

[beacon]

Oct 20, 2015 9:34:51 GMT -5 linus said:

Carey is on the album cover, you can see his shoulder next to George's head.
The cutout is a from a frame from Kubrick's film The Killing.

He's hiding behind George, with his rifle pointing at John. The rifle is hidden behind Issy Bonn.
In the film he shoots a racehorse.
The Latin name for walrus is Odobenus Rosmarus, which means (tooth-walking) horse of the sea.
Red Rum was a famous racehorse in the '70s.
Wendy reads Catcher In The Rye at the beginning of The Shining(1980), in which Danny foresees bloodshed.
Stephen King named his book after Lennon's song Instant Karma, with its line "We all shine on, like the moon and the stars and the sun."

Redrum needs to be mirrored in order to be deciphered.
The L and H in Lonely Hearts alphanumerically represent 12 and 8, or 12/8, the day Lennon was shot.

Thank you Fishdelusions and Linus, this thread has reminded me to revisit an, as yet, unpublished blog piece.

It concerns Issy Bonn and discovering that he was another Sgt. Pepper mason.


Chelsea Lodge #3098 is a lodge designed specifically for actors, musicians and entertainers.

In the Sgt. Pepper Code I speculated that Bonn's hand above Paul's head, rather than being a symbol of death, was in fact the Master Mason's hand or the hand of the philosopher that is extended to those who enter into the mysteries. The hand represents an invitation to join an elite group, those who were said to guard the secret wisdom of all the ages.

Given that we now know that Bonn was a mason maybe Bonn represents Hiram Abiff and Carey one of his killers. It could therefore be a visual representation of the murder of the master mason. With the death of the master mason all his secrets die with him. Maybe Pepper is designed to represent some of this hidden wisdom?

[linus]

Hidden wisdom? The wax Beatles are concealing Sophia Loren.

[Will]

Oct 21, 2015 9:10:01 GMT -5 linus said:

Hidden wisdom? The wax Beatles are concealing Sophia Loren.

Is she looking towards Jayne Mansfield?

[Will]

Oct 20, 2015 17:53:28 GMT -5 maclen said:

i thank both you'all for considering my thoughts on this. however you're way out of my league in the prophesies department, so i leave it to you to kick that particular can around

Its just a rabbit hole.

[Will]

Looking Through A Glass Onion

But still they lead me back
To the long winding road
You left me waiting here
A long Long Time Ago
Don't leave me standing here
Lead me to your door




I used to chide people that said you could find backwards hidden messages anywhere, I've tried on probably over a thousand songs and the truth is you maybe can find something remotely discernible 5% of the time...unless its the Beatles of course and then it's about half. And no other band that I've ever tried with comes even close to that.

This ATL thing is starting to remind me of that, it shows up right where you think it should, but if you search everyone else's stuff it's pretty hard to find.

[beacon]

ATL = Atlantis?
"Atlantis" is a folk-pop song written and recorded by British singer/songwriter Donovan...Many believe that the song "Atlantis" features the background vocals of Paul McCartney. Backing up that claim is Harry Castleman and Walter Podrazik's book, All Together Now: The First Complete Beatles Discography, 1961—1975 (New York: Ballantine Books, 1976, p. 384), which states that McCartney not only provided the background vocals but also played the tambourine on the song.

[Will]

Oct 23, 2015 9:03:14 GMT -5 beacon said:

ATL = Atlantis?
"Atlantis" is a folk-pop song written and recorded by British singer/songwriter Donovan...Many believe that the song "Atlantis" features the background vocals of Paul McCartney. Backing up that claim is Harry Castleman and Walter Podrazik's book, All Together Now: The First Complete Beatles Discography, 1961—1975 (New York: Ballantine Books, 1976, p. 384), which states that McCartney not only provided the background vocals but also played the tambourine on the song.

I think Apollo was right, people just can't accept the conclusions.

Hidden in the yard
underneath the wall
buried deep below
A
Thousand
Layers
...lay the answer to it all.

That pretty clearly tracks back to Pepper, which was a year before Atlantis. Plus there's the references to Time all over the LP, the drum matching the obituary, Run Devil Run being in Atlanta, Julian's 3rd birthday and what the 3's refer to, IAMaphoney, etc...I think what I've posted over the past couple of months laid a pretty good case for what this is, why, and what happened as a response.

If that doesn't do it, I'm not sure what will short of Paul or Ringo coming right out and saying it.