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TKIN
Aug 27, 2006 20:49:12 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 27, 2006 20:49:12 GMT -5
Can you or someone else please copy and paste the post here? It's a members only board. Thanks.
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TKIN
Aug 27, 2006 21:34:37 GMT -5
Post by Red Lion on Aug 27, 2006 21:34:37 GMT -5
Over 2 years ago a terrible thing happened here. Some members of this forum turned against Sun King and attacked him viciously. They made a website ridiculing him and other memers of this forum: allthetruth.galeon.com/Out of their hatred for Sun King and this forum they also started a new forum, the Nothing is Real forum... Quote: The new "Replaced" forum will be open soon for general membership but only to people with a real interest in knowing what happened. It will in no way be associated with 60IF or sunking. At this time his membership has been deleted and will not be open for renewal.These were people who had supported Sun King and seemingly wanted to continue the work he had started...yet they wanted to break all association with Sun King and the forum built around his work! The actions of the Nothing is Real admins tore this forum apart, compelling members to choose sides. The matter soon settled down and was forgotten about, but the effects of their actions still resonate here. Of those members, two eventually returned here, JoJo and Darkhorse. They have been polite here and haven't caused any obvious problems on the forum. But it was always strange to see them here after they had shown so much hostility to this forum. This week Sun King and I decided to finally ban JoJo and Darkhorse from this forum. Because JoJo has been such an active member, we did ask him to explain his previous actions to the forum and perhaps offer a retraction of his participation in the "Only the Truth" campaign - and he declined. Our desire now is to break ALL ties with the Nothing is Real forum. Their group was born out of hatred for this forum and its members and continues to promote hostility against Sun King. We have found no reason to believe that their agenda against this forum has changed. For the record, I do not think they are "spies". Their behavior is and always has been completely unprofessional. For me the "Spy" comments in the censored words list of this forum are sarcastic. They did admit themselves to "spying" or "going undercover" to deceive Sun King. In fact they congratulated themselves for it! We simply don't want people like that around. It's not a matter of revenge, or paranoia, or even of hurt feelings. We just need to make it clear, however belatedly, that we don't approve of or tolerate hostile behavior against this forum and its members. We also need to close the door on any potential to have similar betrayals in the future. Thank you all for your attention, please carry on with your wonderful work here!
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TKIN
Aug 27, 2006 23:15:55 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 27, 2006 23:15:55 GMT -5
Over 2 years ago a terrible thing happened here. Some members of this forum turned against Sun King and attacked him viciously. They made a website ridiculing him and other memers of this forum: allthetruth.galeon.com/Out of their hatred for Sun King and this forum they also started a new forum, the Nothing is Real forum... Quote: The new "Replaced" forum will be open soon for general membership but only to people with a real interest in knowing what happened. It will in no way be associated with 60IF or sunking. At this time his membership has been deleted and will not be open for renewal.These were people who had supported Sun King and seemingly wanted to continue the work he had started...yet they wanted to break all association with Sun King and the forum built around his work! The actions of the Nothing is Real admins tore this forum apart, compelling members to choose sides. The matter soon settled down and was forgotten about, but the effects of their actions still resonate here. Of those members, two eventually returned here, JoJo and Darkhorse. They have been polite here and haven't caused any obvious problems on the forum. But it was always strange to see them here after they had shown so much hostility to this forum. This week Sun King and I decided to finally ban JoJo and Darkhorse from this forum. Because JoJo has been such an active member, we did ask him to explain his previous actions to the forum and perhaps offer a retraction of his participation in the "Only the Truth" campaign - and he declined. Our desire now is to break ALL ties with the Nothing is Real forum. Their group was born out of hatred for this forum and its members and continues to promote hostility against Sun King. We have found no reason to believe that their agenda against this forum has changed. For the record, I do not think they are "spies". Their behavior is and always has been completely unprofessional. For me the "Spy" comments in the censored words list of this forum are sarcastic. They did admit themselves to "spying" or "going undercover" to deceive Sun King. In fact they congratulated themselves for it! We simply don't want people like that around. It's not a matter of revenge, or paranoia, or even of hurt feelings. We just need to make it clear, however belatedly, that we don't approve of or tolerate hostile behavior against this forum and its members. We also need to close the door on any potential to have similar betrayals in the future. Thank you all for your attention, please carry on with your wonderful work here! Thanks RL! FM wrote that? I'm sure that a bunch of stuff (more than we already know) has been going on behind the scenes. Even Byrdsmaniac is gone!
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TKIN
Aug 27, 2006 23:20:37 GMT -5
Post by Red Lion on Aug 27, 2006 23:20:37 GMT -5
4kholes is byrdsmaniac
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TKIN
Aug 27, 2006 23:50:03 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 27, 2006 23:50:03 GMT -5
I always thought he had a separate account here called "byrdsmaniac". Anyway JoJo, I'm sorry if I missed this too, but what happened to the "All The Truth" forum with all the emails?
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TKIN
Aug 28, 2006 2:01:53 GMT -5
Post by TakeTheFifth on Aug 28, 2006 2:01:53 GMT -5
8PUD7SX I always thought he had a separate account here called "byrdsmaniac". Anyway JoJo, I'm sorry if I missed this too, but what happened to the "All The Truth" forum with all the emails? so very inquisitive .......Are you with the FBI or just an FBI wannabe spook? JoJo, you may want an attorney present before you add to their dossier.
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TKIN
Aug 28, 2006 5:03:27 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Aug 28, 2006 5:03:27 GMT -5
8PUD7SX I always thought he had a separate account here called "byrdsmaniac". Anyway JoJo, I'm sorry if I missed this too, but what happened to the "All The Truth" forum with all the emails? so very inquisitive .......Are you with the FBI or just an FBI wannabe spook? JoJo, you may want an attorney present before you add to their dossier. What.. for this? Forum bickering? Isn't there a war on terror or something? The Allthetruth forum got shut down ages ago, as was our stated intent. Oh, and he's just really nosy.
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TKIN
Aug 28, 2006 7:13:38 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Aug 28, 2006 7:13:38 GMT -5
Now that everyone has squinted their way through the TKIN FM's message, I thought I'd post a more legible edition:Over 2 years ago a terrible thing happened here. Some members of this forum turned against Sun King and attacked him viciously. They made a website ridiculing him and other memers of this forum: allthetruth.galeon.com/Out of their hatred for Sun King and this forum they also started a new forum, the Nothing is Real forum... Quote: The new "Replaced" forum will be open soon for general membership but only to people with a real interest in knowing what happened. It will in no way be associated with 60IF or sunking. At this time his membership has been deleted and will not be open for renewal. These were people who had supported Sun King and seemingly wanted to continue the work he had started...yet they wanted to break all association with Sun King and the forum built around his work! The actions of the Nothing is Real admins tore this forum apart, compelling members to choose sides. The matter soon settled down and was forgotten about, but the effects of their actions still resonate here. Of those members, two eventually returned here, JoJo and Darkhorse. They have been polite here and haven't caused any obvious problems on the forum. But it was always strange to see them here after they had shown so much hostility to this forum. This week Sun King and I decided to finally ban JoJo and Darkhorse from this forum. Because JoJo has been such an active member, we did ask him to explain his previous actions to the forum and perhaps offer a retraction of his participation in the "Only the Truth" campaign - and he declined. Our desire now is to break ALL ties with the Nothing is Real forum. Their group was born out of hatred for this forum and its members and continues to promote hostility against Sun King. We have found no reason to believe that their agenda against this forum has changed. For the record, I do not think they are "spies". Their behavior is and always has been completely unprofessional. For me the "Spy" comments in the censored words list of this forum are sarcastic. They did admit themselves to "spying" or "going undercover" to deceive Sun King. In fact they congratulated themselves for it! We simply don't want people like that around.[/b] It's not a matter of revenge, or paranoia, or even of hurt feelings. We just need to make it clear, however belatedly, that we don't approve of or tolerate hostile behavior against this forum and its members. We also need to close the door on any potential to have similar betrayals in the future. Thank you all for your attention, please carry on with your wonderful work here! (end)
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TKIN
Aug 28, 2006 10:23:59 GMT -5
Post by jonna on Aug 28, 2006 10:23:59 GMT -5
sometimes people are so bored they have to drag up the past. kind of stupid if you ask me, to post a link that shows how sick they really are. you would think that they would want that to die off and not be remembered. then again inteligence never was their strong suit.
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TKIN
Aug 28, 2006 13:36:08 GMT -5
Post by fourthousandholes on Aug 28, 2006 13:36:08 GMT -5
Here's the problem at TKIN in a nutshell. (No pun intended.) Other than the FM. A post of BeatlePaul's (SunKing's) from today:"I still can't explain why Phil is sometimes called Ralston and sometimes Ackril Both stage names? So... Freddy Williamson was the "father" both of Tara as Faux Ringo (well accepted by the other Beatles) and of Phil as Faux Paul (Faul) So Billy (Son of William= William-Son) was the nickname of "any" replacement inside the Beatles. Both Tara and Phil and maybe the rest.... About Phil age...... he looked as 10 years older what said.... "Aspinall" was a "buffer joker" name..... "Ringo's" Boogaloo Bill 45rpm cover has a Frankeinstein Monster on... smoking a cigarette...." (end quote) Who can make sense of this? I don't think people here hate SunKing or the TKIN forum, or anyone who posts there. It's THIS gobbledy-gook that makes people crazy. I know I wouldn't do any better if I had to post in Italian. But the poor guy needs some help with expressing himself.
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TKIN
Aug 28, 2006 14:30:48 GMT -5
Post by ahem on Aug 28, 2006 14:30:48 GMT -5
People have tried repeatedly to help him "express himself". Those who were involved with 60IF/TKIN from the beginning know that PaulBearer was SunKing's "right hand man". After spending years trying to help SK get his ideas & opinions across, he was banned from the forum. It seems that SK now only wants the help of the FM.
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TKIN
Aug 28, 2006 14:34:56 GMT -5
Post by ahem on Aug 28, 2006 14:34:56 GMT -5
One more thing. It seems that SK & the FM have managed to create their own world of intrigue with characters out of a detective novel. Anyone who was involved in the entertainment industry, and was the right sex & age ( with the right credentials ) during that time period, was game to be part of their little drama.
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 1:09:56 GMT -5
Post by guest P on Aug 29, 2006 1:09:56 GMT -5
SK speaks perfect english. his "me no speak english well this not my mother tongue" is just him pretending to look more... well, you know
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 1:11:34 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 29, 2006 1:11:34 GMT -5
SK speaks perfect english. his "me no speak english well this not my mother tongue" is just him pretending to look more... well, you know I've always suspected that. but how do you know?
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 2:04:04 GMT -5
Post by Red Lion on Aug 29, 2006 2:04:04 GMT -5
Its the same reason Paul was replaced.
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 2:34:59 GMT -5
Post by Doc on Aug 29, 2006 2:34:59 GMT -5
Its the same reason Paul was replaced. Red Lion, help us with that reason. Why do you believe that Paul was replaced? How does this relate to BP/SK posting with pid-geon English?
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 10:00:45 GMT -5
Post by DarkHorse on Aug 29, 2006 10:00:45 GMT -5
Here's the problem at TKIN in a nutshell. (No pun intended.) Other than the FM. A post of BeatlePaul's (SunKing's) from today:"I still can't explain why Phil is sometimes called Ralston and sometimes Ackril Both stage names? So... Freddy Williamson was the "father" both of Tara as Faux Ringo (well accepted by the other Beatles) and of Phil as Faux Paul (Faul) So Billy (Son of William= William-Son) was the nickname of "any" replacement inside the Beatles. Both Tara and Phil and maybe the rest.... About Phil age...... he looked as 10 years older what said.... "Aspinall" was a "buffer joker" name..... "Ringo's" Boogaloo Bill 45rpm cover has a Frankeinstein Monster on... smoking a cigarette...." (end quote) Who can make sense of this? I don't think people here hate SunKing or the TKIN forum, or anyone who posts there. It's THIS gobbledy-gook that makes people crazy. I know I wouldn't do any better if I had to post in Italian. But the poor guy needs some help with expressing himself.
It really has less to do with how he expresses himself and more to do with him spinning a completely false and made up theory to confuse the average member and hurt the cause of PID/PWR. You are being too nice in my opinion.
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 10:44:09 GMT -5
Post by lili on Aug 29, 2006 10:44:09 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder whose side they're on.
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 11:11:21 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 29, 2006 11:11:21 GMT -5
Its the same reason Paul was replaced. Red Lion, help us with that reason. Why do you believe that Paul was replaced? How does this relate to BP/SK posting with pid-geon English? No, I get it. He's saying "because it's obvious".
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 18:13:12 GMT -5
Post by duke of spiders on Aug 29, 2006 18:13:12 GMT -5
Hi there this is Duke of Spiders from the TKIN board so does this mean JoJo's bootlegs site is not available anymore? That was a really good site and I was hoping it was still around.
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 18:21:49 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Aug 29, 2006 18:21:49 GMT -5
Hi there this is Duke of Spiders from the TKIN board so does this mean JoJo's bootlegs site is not available anymore? That was a really good site and I was hoping it was still around. Well, since I have no way of changing the info in the members only section there, I have no way of updating the IP address. (it changes occasionally) Become a member here, and no prob. I'm not trying to bribe you into becoming a member btw, just that I'd rather not put that info in the public part of the forum. Heck, you can even post an email address, and I'll forward the info, how's that?
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 18:52:03 GMT -5
Post by duke of spiders on Aug 29, 2006 18:52:03 GMT -5
That would be great, I'll sign up here. Thanks!
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TKIN
Aug 29, 2006 19:02:26 GMT -5
Post by Paul Bearer on Aug 29, 2006 19:02:26 GMT -5
People have tried repeatedly to help him "express himself". Those who were involved with 60IF/TKIN from the beginning know that PaulBearer was SunKing's "right hand man". After spending years trying to help SK get his ideas & opinions across, he was banned from the forum. It seems that SK now only wants the help of the FM. An explanation of what happened is at maccabackyard.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=paulbearer&action=display&thread=1146300208 for anyone who hasn't seen it. BTW, Sun King has since kindly allowed me to be reinstated there.
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TKIN
Aug 30, 2006 12:31:09 GMT -5
Post by lili on Aug 30, 2006 12:31:09 GMT -5
I'm glad that you've been reinstated. Does that mean that you're an admin again
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TKIN
Aug 31, 2006 2:51:24 GMT -5
Post by Paul Bearer on Aug 31, 2006 2:51:24 GMT -5
No, I'm not an admin anymore and I don't want to be. I'm happy just to be a member there now! BTW, my own, rather lacking in activity at the moment, board is at jpmccartney.proboards28.com/ in case you haven't seen it. Please post something....PLEASE!!!! ;D
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