ggee
Hard Day's Night
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Jul 27, 2006 21:18:39 GMT -5
Post by ggee on Jul 27, 2006 21:18:39 GMT -5
If you think the ratio is the same in those pics, the top of Paul's head was MASSIVE! Faul barely has a forehead! Scale them so the eye spacing is equivalent then. You have to enlarge Faul's head quite a bit, ya know, but it can be done.
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Jul 27, 2006 21:21:43 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Jul 27, 2006 21:21:43 GMT -5
Well hell, I'm done for now.... it's kinda pointless debating with the hardliner crowd. Every single picture really is JPM... the shape-shifter.
But WELCOME atd... good posts.. I'll be lookin' forward to more.
...and ggee also...welcome ;D
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Jul 27, 2006 21:58:47 GMT -5
Post by FP on Jul 27, 2006 21:58:47 GMT -5
But it's your job to prove that they're altered, or else it doesn't mean a thing. I have, but you just go LALALALALALALALALALALALA!!! btw, you are correct FP, KHAN is the slow motion bandit, not you. Cheers, NotRevolver aka atd. Really? If you've shown that the same picture of Paul or "Faul" has been manipulated (and I don't mean accidentally compressed or stretched), then isn't that kind of an undeniable smoking gun? I don't remember seeing one. Have you?
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Jul 28, 2006 7:43:42 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Jul 28, 2006 7:43:42 GMT -5
Oh darn! I thought for sure I'd get up this mornin' & there would finally be an answer to my years old question.... but NOOOO!
I'm just dyin' to understand how it could be that the pics that have zero simularities to the facial features of JPM really are JPM.
If we "open our eyes" will these pics suddenly reveal JPM facial features?
OK... one more time before work..... "And I've been asking this for years & have yet to get an answer, but how is it that JPM NEVER had a replacement? "
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Jul 28, 2006 8:28:28 GMT -5
Post by McCartneyIII on Jul 28, 2006 8:28:28 GMT -5
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Jul 28, 2006 8:37:34 GMT -5
Post by FP on Jul 28, 2006 8:37:34 GMT -5
Oh darn! I thought for sure I'd get up this mornin' & there would finally be an answer to my years old question.... but NOOOO! I'm just dyin' to understand how it could be that the pics that have zero simularities to the facial features of JPM really are JPM. How can we answer a question that we disagree with? We believe we've shown that there are no sudden differences, and debunked the fades that "show" them. Can you gimme an example showing that everyone else did? If all the other Beatles had one, and Paul didn't, your question would make sense. See you guys Sunday.
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Jul 28, 2006 8:48:36 GMT -5
Post by McCartney on Jul 28, 2006 8:48:36 GMT -5
PS: can anybody remove me the bann i got here? I hate use proxys, are so slow and this pages got a lot of pics.
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Jul 28, 2006 9:47:15 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Jul 28, 2006 9:47:15 GMT -5
PS: can anybody remove me the bann i got here? I hate use proxys, are so slow and this pages got a lot of pics. OK.. it's either that or ban your collection of proxies all day..
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ggee
Hard Day's Night
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Jul 28, 2006 10:12:29 GMT -5
Post by ggee on Jul 28, 2006 10:12:29 GMT -5
Well hell, I'm done for now.... it's kinda pointless debating with the hardliner crowd. Every single picture really is JPM... the shape-shifter. But WELCOME atd... good posts.. I'll be lookin' forward to more. ...and ggee also...welcome ;D Thx eyesbleed, yep, JPM is the shapeshifter. He's the only person I've seen who can grin real big and not have his chin move. Pretty astounding talent
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Jul 28, 2006 17:10:39 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Jul 28, 2006 17:10:39 GMT -5
I don't see how you could be serious here, but if ya are; that's nothin' short of astonishing. Are ya sure ya don't need that eye chart? Remind me to not spend any more of my time debatin' with you guys. Kinda hard to debate anyway, when one of the debaters is left speechless.
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Jul 28, 2006 17:21:27 GMT -5
Post by strawberryfields on Jul 28, 2006 17:21:27 GMT -5
Thx eyesbleed, yep, JPM is the shapeshifter. He's the only person I've seen who can grin real big and not have his chin move. Pretty astounding talent "Faul's" mouth is closed, but his jaw is clearly open. You can tell by the expression on his face.
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Jul 29, 2006 20:57:27 GMT -5
Post by atd on Jul 29, 2006 20:57:27 GMT -5
Hey Strawberry, you really should try that trepanning thing.. Anyhoo, this is Paul both pics, the differences explainable by a slight angle difference and perhaps slight lens distortion, which tends to pull the ears back in photos. For example, Khan, in order to 'match' Paul to Faul, will use lens distorted pics of Paul and compare them with compressed pics of Faul in order to get a "match". The pepper gatefold pic was compressed and does not match most subsequent pics of Faul. Please check the thread here for a good laugh .. maccabackyard.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=ddddd&action=display&thread=1154051207btw, thanks eyesbleed for the welcome and all the excellent vintage pics..good stuff.
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Jul 30, 2006 10:09:09 GMT -5
Post by lili on Jul 30, 2006 10:09:09 GMT -5
Thank you, atd. You've tackled a difficult subject with clear-mindedness & aplomb. I agree that there has to be some way that the PIAers are doing the fades, since it's obvious that Faul/Bill has a larger forehead & longer face than Paul did. If the photo dimensions were identical for both subjects, they wouldn't be able to match up like that. Faul/Bill Paul The color might be off in the above photo, but it's obviously a photo of Paul. Faul/Bill has a much longer face. Paul's face was heart shaped. Faul/Bill's face is oblong in shape.
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Jul 30, 2006 13:37:30 GMT -5
Post by strawberryfields on Jul 30, 2006 13:37:30 GMT -5
Hey atd, you should really try giving a serious answer for once... Anyway, the rest of your post is interesting, but you'll have to prove to me that all of our Faul pictures are compressed...because that Spies Like Us picture is not reliable for comparisons. We have tried it on other post-66 pictures many times and it did not match, an example being this one (originally done by FP, I believe) I personally think his jaw was open in the picture... And lili: (KHAN actually did this one a while ago)
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Jul 30, 2006 15:02:50 GMT -5
Post by lili on Jul 30, 2006 15:02:50 GMT -5
Strawberry, why do his ears seem to move inwards in the later photo? That is because Bill's ears are closer to his head than Paul's were. Paul's nose appears wider, & Bill's head appears taller. This is being caused by his larger forehead.
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Jul 30, 2006 16:39:16 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Jul 30, 2006 16:39:16 GMT -5
Hey you guys.... we already know they are 2 different people. And we don't need fades to show that, but thanks for providing some anyway... I guess. We really don't need them or want them, but y'all seem intent on supplying more fades regardless. So whatever... at least they don't clog up the whole forum like they used to do. I haven't got a clue what y'all are tryin' to prove..... it's been shown over & over again that JPM had a replacement, & a million illusions... I mean fades from the mysterious funhouse factory can't change that fact. So what's the point?? Y'all gettin' paid to prove the impossible, or just have way too much time on yer hands?
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Jul 30, 2006 17:49:50 GMT -5
Post by FP on Jul 30, 2006 17:49:50 GMT -5
I'm back. Thanks for taking care of stuff while I was gone SF. Hey you guys.... we already know they are 2 different people. And we don't need fades to show that, but thanks for providing some anyway... I guess. We really don't need them or want them, but y'all seem intent on supplying more fades regardless. So whatever... at least they don't clog up the whole forum like they used to do. I haven't got a clue what y'all are tryin' to prove..... it's been shown over & over again that JPM had a replacement, & a million illusions... I mean fades from the mysterious funhouse factory can't change that fact. So what's the point?? Y'all gettin' paid to prove the impossible, or just have way too much time on yer hands? Our fades show that they physically match up. At least a lot better than you want them to. Whether you see the same guy is up to you. You think we're mysterious? Why's that? Our boards are open to the public, you don't have to go through a secret ritual to view them. And the fact is, there are over three hundred threads in our PIA boards. Each one almost always contains a piece of physical evidence, or more. The PID 'evidence' does not outweigh our evidence. I think you've been isolated on the same forum for too long. And to answer your last question, yes, I do have a bit too much time on my hands. ;D
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Jul 30, 2006 20:09:20 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Jul 30, 2006 20:09:20 GMT -5
Our fades show that they physically match up. At least a lot better than you want them to. Whether you see the same guy is up to you. You think we're mysterious? Why's that? Our boards are open to the public, you don't have to go through a secret ritual to view them. And the fact is, there are over three hundred threads in our PIA boards. Each one almost always contains a piece of physical evidence, or more. The PID 'evidence' does not outweigh our evidence. I think you've been isolated on the same forum for too long. And to answer your last question, yes, I do have a bit too much time on my hands. ;D 1. I really don't want yer fades to do anything. Fades can be made to show either argument, so they're worthless. 2. I just thought it might take some mysterious ritual or somethin' to get 2 obviously different men to match as well as y'all make'em do... even though most of y'alls fades are far from perfect & even show the PWR case from time to time. ....well.... I guess it would be a lot more mysterious if they actually worked most of the time, huh. 3. Isolated myself to 1 forum....... quite the opposite FP. I'm spread too thin & it's all I can do to just pop in occationally & spend a minimum amount of time catchin' up. And time to actually sit & ponder somethin' for awhile? Forget it.... I wish that were the case. But there's no doubt that JPM was replaced, so whatever. And there's much more pressing things that need to be exposed right now anyway. ....but I do enjoy the comic relief! ;D
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Jul 31, 2006 12:19:45 GMT -5
Post by KHAN on Jul 31, 2006 12:19:45 GMT -5
I agree that there has to be some way that the PIAers are doing the fades, Yes. We have a very well established way of making fades. First, start with vintage pre-'67 and post-'67 Macca pics. From Eyesbleed's site: From Larry C's Vintage 1967 copy of Sgt. Pepper Make the overlay: I really don't give a damn whether y'all believe Paul was replaced with a tit mouse, but the constant insinuations that our comparisons match up so well is because we are "doing something" (*read: cheating*) is getting old. Especially from someone who never adds anything analytical to the discussions other than "look at Faul's huge forehead". lol ;D They match because the match. No other reason. Re: Forehead img7.exs.cx/img7/856/JPM_TV_GUIDE.gif
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Jul 31, 2006 12:30:45 GMT -5
Post by noodles on Jul 31, 2006 12:30:45 GMT -5
Different shaped chins. Mouth positions change (hold your mouse pointer over the top lip). Ear positions change. The eyes and the nose match pretty well though.
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Jul 31, 2006 12:39:55 GMT -5
Post by DarkHorse on Jul 31, 2006 12:39:55 GMT -5
Khan,
Do you have the full picture of that early Paul pic? You know, where we can also see his upper body.
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Jul 31, 2006 14:10:50 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Jul 31, 2006 14:10:50 GMT -5
I guess it would be a lot more mysterious if they actually worked most of the time, huh.
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Jul 31, 2006 14:16:49 GMT -5
Post by KHAN on Jul 31, 2006 14:16:49 GMT -5
Khan, Do you have the full picture of that early Paul pic? You know, where we can also see his upper body. This is the full pic from jamespaulmccartney.org I just want to make it clear that the purpose of my post was to show that we have tried whenever possible to follow the rules for fades and comparisons that the PID/PWR side have laid out. We (PIA'ers) do not believe in any mass doctoring conspiracy. But we have tried to use vintage pics whenever possible.
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Jul 31, 2006 15:32:22 GMT -5
Post by McCartneyIII on Jul 31, 2006 15:32:22 GMT -5
Hey you guys.... we already know they are 2 different people. And we don't need fades to show that, but thanks for providing some anyway... I guess. We really don't need them or want them, but y'all seem intent on supplying more fades regardless. So whatever... at least they don't clog up the whole forum like they used to do. I haven't got a clue what y'all are tryin' to prove..... it's been shown over & over again that JPM had a replacement, & a million illusions... I mean fades from the mysterious funhouse factory can't change that fact. So what's the point?? Y'all gettin' paid to prove the impossible, or just have way too much time on yer hands?
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Jul 31, 2006 20:21:29 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Jul 31, 2006 20:21:29 GMT -5
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