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Post by astro4 on Jun 21, 2014 17:00:13 GMT -5
In 1964 the 2nd ‘Billy Pepper and the Pepperpots’ album appeared, ‘Beat!!!!! More Merseymania’ It was billed as the ‘follow up album’ to the original Mersey Mania’ and had ‘eight new numbers’ (as well as, like the first album, two Beatles songs) The first of these two albums, released on Hurrah Records an imprint of Pickwick International, has no date. Which is a bit unusual. But it features ‘I want to hold your Hand’ released by the Beatles in October 1963, so one might surmise that it was not released until 1964. ‘Beatle Paul’ averred that the first album was released earlier: “I have an self-titled album by a Liverpool Merseybeat group from 1963 called Billy Pepper and the Pepperpots. I found it among a stack of old vinyl at a second hand shop one day.”’Beatle Paul’ 60if.proboards.com/thread/2696/billy-pepper-pepperpots#ixzz34YSNUYygIt is also claimed that "The Pepperpots released a single (recorded in '63 )" Don't Tell Me You Don't Know." 60if.proboards.com/thread/2696/billy-pepper-pepperpots#ixzz34YMwmosb That title was on the second album, so is not very relevant to the question I’m asking here. But surely not 1961? Concerning the first Pepperpot album: "What is really confusing is that the album I have has a pressing date of 1961, several years before the Beatles released anything in the US. The songwriters are not listed on any of the songs, and to be honest the version of 'I saw Her standing there' revivals the Beatles' version, while I want to Hold your Hand is absolutely pathetic. Someone please give insight as to the 1961 pressing year, otherwise, the 'evidence' points to the fact that maybe this band actual wrote those. I am not the anti-christ, just looking for answers on this strange group." - Anthony Gianotti, at: franklarosa.com/vinyl/Exhibit.jsp?AlbumID=69Anthony, if you are still around, please give us an image of this pressing! That first Pepperpot album presently sells on both Amazon and Ebay as dated 1962. Is this a load of rubbish, or was there really some earlier pressing of that first album? If not, then we have to believe that sixteen new songs were published by unknown session musicians in the one year 1964, plus singing four Beatles songs – then, they never do anything else, ever. That would seem a rather startling burst of creativity from a totally unknown band: bearing in mind that Pickwick were into poor-quality records at rock-bottom prices using unknown session musicians. Those were the records that sold at Woolworth's for a pound. A rather sensible comment was made by ’Beatlies' - invanddis.proboards.com/thread/2743?page=2 "I wonder if the Pepperpots, in addition to being a musical practice act for Phil Ackrill/"Neil Aspinall," may have been a kind of recycling bin for songs written for the Beatles that weren't good enough to make the cut as official "Lennon-McCartney"-written songs that would appear on Beatles or Cillla Black albums. "Maybe I Will" sung by "Billy Pepper" is basically a decent song, although copied from an earlier jazz classic "Maybe I Will or Maybe I Won't." If the Beatles had behind the scenes tin pan alley-type ghostwriters, and I think they did, these cadres must have also produced some also-ran "overflow" songs that could be used for specific functions elsewhere. I can see the Beatles recording the song "Maybe I Will" if it were musically improved and refined a little here and there." Here are two bits of evidence in support of this view: 1. “its interesting, all of the Bill Shepherd songtitles would be right at home on a "Paul Mccartney" album” ‘Reallyreallydead’ 60if.proboards.com/thread/2696/billy-pepper-pepperpots?page=6#ixzz34YZMfbLA2. That band (or maybe it was just one person recording the four tracks) was very ‘hidden’ – I mean, checkout the cover of The Primitives’ a Lou-Reed US Pickwick album, with the four heavy thug-types on the cover www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxcP4jsal8o (don’t listen to the ghastly racket they are making): then shrink that image horizontally by 30% i.e as 100:130, and you get the pic on the cover of the 2nd Pepper album, with slightly more aesthetic-looking dudes in the dark. Its deception on the front cover.
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Post by B on Jun 22, 2014 17:29:06 GMT -5
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Post by astro4 on Jun 26, 2014 5:52:56 GMT -5
I wasn’t overwhelmed by Guitargas’s claims that the Bee-Gees Bill Shepherd worked for Pickwick, and did the Billy Pepper songs. If someone could show that the latter did have a colleague Jimmy Frazer then that story might be getting somewhere. In the meantime - correct me if I’m wrong - but I suggest this Bee-Gees Bill Shepherd didn’t sing, didn’t work for Pickwick, did string-compositions and conducted a light orchestra.
The Beatles Book (monthly journal) was produced from 244 Edgware Road NW2. Its second edition in 1963 had the mystery historian Bill Shepherd telling the tale of the Fab Four –still no-one knows who he was! The book 'True Story of the Beatles' by this Bill Shepherd was published from that same address in 1964 (‘Beat Publications Ltd’). A mere stone’s throw away, say fifty yards, was the address of Pickwick international at Victoria Works, Edgware Road, Cricklewood at NW2 6LF. That’s the address given on the second Billy Pepper album.
As Cricklewood Broadway goes north it turns into this Edgware Road, and the industrial estate region we are talking about is just south of its junction with the North Circular.
So Billy Shepherd then appears in 1964 on this hush-hush mystery album. For anyone who’s got the first album, I challenge anyone to listen to ‘Maybe I will’ and not hear a merry, Beatles-type sound – endorsing the claim of ‘Beatlies’ above-quoted. Then on the 2nd side surely ‘I saw her standing there’ is old Billy Boy singing is it not?
Yep it’s him.
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Post by ramone on Jun 26, 2014 10:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by beacon on Jun 27, 2014 3:58:08 GMT -5
I wasn’t overwhelmed by Guitargas’s claims that the Bee-Gees Bill Shepherd worked for Pickwick, and did the Billy Pepper songs. If someone could show that the latter did have a colleague Jimmy Frazer then that story might be getting somewhere. In the meantime - correct me if I’m wrong - but I suggest this Bee-Gees Bill Shepherd didn’t sing, didn’t work for Pickwick, did string-compositions and conducted a light orchestra. The Beatles Book (monthly journal) was produced from 244 Edgware Road NW2. Its second edition in 1963 had the mystery historian Bill Shepherd telling the tale of the Fab Four –still no-one knows who he was! The book 'True Story of the Beatles' by this Bill Shepherd was published from that same address in 1964 (‘Beat Publications Ltd’). A mere stone’s throw away, say fifty yards, was the address of Pickwick international at Victoria Works, Edgware Road, Cricklewood at NW2 6LF. That’s the address given on the second Billy Pepper album. As Cricklewood Broadway goes north it turns into this Edgware Road, and the industrial estate region we are talking about is just south of its junction with the North Circular. So Billy Shepherd then appears in 1964 on this hush-hush mystery album. For anyone who’s got the first album, I challenge anyone to listen to ‘Maybe I will’ and not hear a merry, Beatles-type sound – endorsing the claim of ‘Beatlies’ above-quoted. Then on the 2nd side surely ‘I saw her standing there’ is old Billy Boy singing is it not? Yep it’s him. I think that if the son of the Bee Gees Bill Shepherd pops out of the woodwork and comments solely on the work of his father and then disappears again then we should assume he is telling the truth. He has no motivation whatsoever to do anything different. I think it is fairly clear that this Bill Shepherd did produce the cheap, nasty product that is the Beatles explotation Pepperpots album. I do own it and I think it is awful. That said this Bill Shepherd did have connections to Abbey Road and may well have known George Martin and, incidentally, it is just a short trip down the Kilburn High Road from Cricklewood to Abbey Road. I think it is fairly well established that the author whose pseudonym was Billy Shepherd was Neil Aspinall. The above is a screenshot from a document called the powerhouse museum archive which lists numerous Beatle related memorabilia including the Beatles monthly book which was also published by Beat Publications Ltd. I will not claim that this is conclusive evidence but I can't imagine it wasn't very well researched and, if not true, I am sure Apple would have issued a cease and desist order. My theory, and that is all it is, is that Aspinall - whose company Standby Films was paid upto £500,000 per annum to produce the Anthology project from 1970 onwards - became frustrated with McCartney's constant attempts to re-write history and to obscure the immense contributions from people like Mal Evans and Aspinall himself and so, once the McCartney approved Anthology was finally released, set about trying to get the hidden truth into the public domain via agents such as Iamaphoney. Quite why Iamaphoney would then further muddy the waters by referencing the Pepperpots LP is a mystery, however, I believe it is ultimately a red herring. It is just a shame that Apollo is no longer around to confirm or deny my theory. Incidentally, if anyone would like a copy of the powerhouse museum document please message me with your email address.
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Post by astro4 on Jun 29, 2014 8:10:32 GMT -5
Thanks Beacon for that source, indicating that Bill Shepherd historian was Neil Aspinall. Pretty obvious, one might say. My only query here, is that Beatle author Hunter Davies wrote in 2008 that “Neil Aspinall, who died yesterday aged 66, was one of only two people of any importance in the Beatles saga who never told their story” www.theguardian.com/music/2008/mar/25/news.uk :‘Beatles Fixer and Friend Takes Secrets to the Grave.’ He added: “Neil knew everything, everybody, and now, alas, has taken it all to the grave… I asked him countless times, saying he should get it all down, before it's too late, if just for his children. He always said no.” If he had been Bill Shepherd - why keep it a secret? Why would he not have wanted to take credit for having this official Beatles historian? Doesn’t sound like a secret you’d want to take to your grave.
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Post by beacon on Jun 30, 2014 5:54:36 GMT -5
My theory, and that is all it is, is that Aspinall - whose company Standby Films was paid upto £500,000 per annum to produce the Anthology project from 1970 onwards - became frustrated with McCartney's constant attempts to re-write history and to obscure the immense contributions from people like Mal Evans and Aspinall himself and so, once the McCartney approved Anthology was finally released, set about trying to get the hidden truth into the public domain via agents such as Iamaphoney. Quite why Iamaphoney would then further muddy the waters by referencing the Pepperpots LP is a mystery, however, I believe it is ultimately a red herring. Your 'theory and that's all it is' isn't EVEN a theory because a theory keeps inputs static which are not meant to be variables. Namely, you've just embellished a detail you found about (public) accounts for Standby Films pertaining to a year or two and not only generalised them back to 1970 as a 'regular' thing but doubled them as well. Up to half a million a year for Neil Aspinall, eh? There were years when f*king Apple didn't make that much so f*ck knows how they were paying him! If you were the girl who goes around saying 'putative' on every news site from Belsen to Bejing, you'd be forgiven but as you're (posing as) a serious researcher, I'm afraid your bare arse needs exposing although I'm not really up for spanking it. (.....Oh wait). The claptrap scene you've descended back into here is probably your natural home as evidenced by a 'theory' that has as its core an image of McCartney (whichever one, with or without the replacement ears) dictating history to Harrison and Yoko via a team of Geordies (UK readers only), researchers, archivists, editors, sub-editors, licensing buyers, restorers et al (the 'Anthology' production team overseen by Aspinall). Since this doesn't even taken account of the actualities of a basic production scenario never mind the particulars of this one, documented thoroughly by world media during a period where The Beatles sold more records than they had in the Sixties, 1995-6 ( for those who don't know, McCartney had co-approval with Harrison, Ono and Starkey on a team-production finalised by Aspinall in which things he wanted out were kept in and things he wanted in were kept out), I'm relegating you to repeat your O-levels in Credibility. AND STRAIGHTEN THAT TIE! What you've previously published as a ReVelation (erm...or something) is that Standby Films (publicly named as Aspinall's production company in the financial and legal press... FT, Forbes, etc etc circa Apple vs Apple and especially upon his death and previously identified as such in books (eg. Peter McCabe 'Apple to the Core', Peter Doggett 'You Never Give Me Your Money') and magazines (eg. Applelog, Beatlefan) while the *shocking original expose you're crediting yourself with, that Neil Aspinall is Billy Shepherd was long ago revealed in the selfsame Beat Publication that you're INVESTIGATING!!!! Jesus (or possibly John) wept. File under 'Carry On Sleuthing', I think. (aside to defence) Your witness. I think I'll call him 'Iamanacolyteofiamamusician' Dear BigBob Haystacks, May I take this opportunity to thank you for your fresh perspectives and the healthy dose of cynicism you regularly display in your posts. Your arrival here has been a real breath of fresh air and I can only marvel at how you have not yet been hailed as a true satirical genius. Tredwel Rabid; damn that’s good. I particularly admire your ability to see straight through all the bullshit whilst delivering your own incredibly concise and accurate analogy. You have truly become a conspiracy theory legend in just a few short weeks and I will gladly kneel before you for my botty spanking. Oh, and please do engage us with your twenty year old white label theories as I, for one, cannot wait for you to actually say something. As for me, I intend to continue pissing in the wind until I utter something which meets with your approval as I fear my life will be meaningless without your glowing endorsement. P.S. As for my tomes, there is really no need to waste your hard earned ordering from Amazon as I am more than happy to send you them gratis. If only I had printed versions then I could have signed them for you!
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Post by beacon on Jun 30, 2014 6:30:08 GMT -5
Thanks Beacon for that source, indicating that Bill Shepherd historian was Neil Aspinall. Pretty obvious, one might say. My only query here, is that Beatle author Hunter Davies wrote in 2008 that “Neil Aspinall, who died yesterday aged 66, was one of only two people of any importance in the Beatles saga who never told their story” www.theguardian.com/music/2008/mar/25/news.uk :‘Beatles Fixer and Friend Takes Secrets to the Grave.’ He added: “Neil knew everything, everybody, and now, alas, has taken it all to the grave… I asked him countless times, saying he should get it all down, before it's too late, if just for his children. He always said no.” If he had been Bill Shepherd - why keep it a secret? Why would he not have wanted to take credit for having this official Beatles historian? Doesn’t sound like a secret you’d want to take to your grave. Good question, why indeed? bigbob seems to think that it wasn't a secret but neglects to actually supply the evidence that could clear this up. There are many alternatives: assuming the other person that Hunter Davies is talking about is Mal Evans then maybe, like Mal, something was written and has been hidden, or supressed? Maybe he didn't get around to it? Maybe he was happy being invisible and hiding behind a pseudonym? Maybe he saw anthology as his way of telling his perspective of Beatle history? Maybe something will appear after McCartney's death? Maybe Iamaphoney knows?
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Post by cherilyn7 on Jun 30, 2014 18:11:03 GMT -5
Thanks Beacon for that source, indicating that Bill Shepherd historian was Neil Aspinall. Pretty obvious, one might say. My only query here, is that Beatle author Hunter Davies wrote in 2008 that “Neil Aspinall, who died yesterday aged 66, was one of only two people of any importance in the Beatles saga who never told their story” www.theguardian.com/music/2008/mar/25/news.uk :‘Beatles Fixer and Friend Takes Secrets to the Grave.’ He added: “Neil knew everything, everybody, and now, alas, has taken it all to the grave… I asked him countless times, saying he should get it all down, before it's too late, if just for his children. He always said no.” If he had been Bill Shepherd - why keep it a secret? Why would he not have wanted to take credit for having this official Beatles historian? Doesn’t sound like a secret you’d want to take to your grave. ******************************************************************************************************* I would not be at all surprised if these people, such as Mal Evans and Neil Aspinall and others close to The Beatles may, indeed, have written their memoirs not to be published until after everyone else is dead. I found it strange, to say the least, that the fan club secretary Freda Kelly did not speak of her time close to The Beatles for 50 years, not even to her son. Why would that be? Another one who I would aver knows a lot more is Pete Best. As for Neil Aspinall not wanting to reveal that he was, indeed, Bill Shepherd; maybe that was enough to be an insider and a part of that fantastic world The Beatles and their circle inhabited. Why would he want to lift the veil when it is a fact that people "want to know" but once they have found out, they rapidly lose interest. The mystique surrounding The Beatles legend is what gives them their magic and power over the masses.
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Post by cherilyn7 on Jun 30, 2014 18:29:00 GMT -5
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Is this a load of rubbish, or was there really some earlier pressing of that first album? If not, then we have to believe that sixteen new songs were published by unknown session musicians in the one year 1964, plus singing four Beatles songs – then, they never do anything else, ever.
That would seem a rather startling burst of creativity from a totally unknown band: bearing in mind that Pickwick were into poor-quality records at rock-bottom prices using unknown session musicians. Those were the records that sold at Woolworth's for a pound.
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These songs were probably just demo recordings; put out to see if anyone looking for a song would spot one and pick it out of the mediocre ones. Whoever was in this group someone had the clout to record them albeit on a "bargain" label. These are the kind of discs that would end up in "jumble sales" but as no one had ever heard of the artistes, no one wanted to buy them even for a few pennnies (as it was back then!) The picture on the front is just a made up composite of some anonymous guys trying to look "groovy" but was never a proper group. It could have been anyone. However, I suspect the Paul replacement had something to do with it and that he was a back room session musician/composer/arranger. These songs may have been "rejects", that no one else such as The Beatles, Cilla or The Searchers wanted to record.
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Post by astro4 on Jul 1, 2014 8:59:11 GMT -5
Beacon comments on the first Pepperpot album: “I think it is awful”. OK, likewise the track on it ‘ Night without End’ www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgJXR0B2ztc someone uploaded it averring it was sung by Faul, and one comment was “Man, how do people actually think this guy could replace Paul? He’s not even in tune, and he really doesn’t sound like the Paul from the 1970s.” But on the other hand, someone posted up Maybe I Will from that album www.earthplanet.net/Maybe_I_Will.mp3bv and one comment was: ‘That high-pitched doo wop in the beginning. I don't know. It sounds to me like it could very well be Billy boy. He goes on like that in a lot of his songs. (‘Abbey’) 60if.proboards.com/thread/2696/billy-pepper-pepperpots?page=5#ixzz34YYfM3OO So we have different opinions on this matter. If you want to believe with Beacon that it was the Bee-Gees Bill Shepherd (who went Down Under) who did these albums, (http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beegees/65.html ) then he would have had to know the Beatle crowd who were producing the Beatles Book right next door to the Pickwick studio. (NB ‘Guitargaz’ averred that ‘ I worked as an Engineer at IBC studios from 1974-76’ but otherwise could not seem to validate his alleged identity as Gary son of BS. He couldn’t even manage to put up a pic of himself with his alleged father). But unless someone can show that that Bill Shepherd of the Bee-Gees sung, worked for Pickwick, or had a colleague Jimmy Frazer - any of these will do - I suggest this isn’t very likely. Cherliyn7 feels that the Paul replacement ‘had something to do with it [the two Pepperpot albums] and that he was a back room session musician/composer/arranger’. Right. After all, Faul must have come from somewhere. On the story, he has to have been not far away, because Epstein turns to him and asks him if he can step in to replace JPM, right after the accident. He surely has to have been a versatile session musician (‘the man with a thousand voices’). Then who did the 1967 Cowboy Favourites Bill Shepherd and the Ranch Hands, also a Pickwick-Allegro imprint, done in the same studio in Cricklewood? The same guy, surely. www.invanddis.proboards.com/thread/2672/bill-shepherd-uk-session-musician NB Compare Faul singing Rocky Racoon with Wild-West accent . Is there any Beatles bio which describes the regular car journey from Abbey Road up through Kilburn to 244 Edgware Road where the monthly Beatles Book was produced, next door to the Pickwick studio? "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? We know that he did not come through the door, the window, or the chimney. We also know that he could not have been concealed in the room, as there is no concealment possible. When, then, did he come?" Sherlock Holmes to Watson
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Post by beacon on Jul 1, 2014 9:23:23 GMT -5
Beacon comments on the first Pepperpot album: “I think it is awful”. OK, likewise the track on it ‘ Night without End’ www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgJXR0B2ztc someone uploaded it averring it was sung by Faul, and one comment was “Man, how do people actually think this guy could replace Paul? He’s not even in tune, and he really doesn’t sound like the Paul from the 1970s.” But on the other hand, someone posted up Maybe I Will from that album www.earthplanet.net/Maybe_I_Will.mp3bv and one comment was: ‘That high-pitched doo wop in the beginning. I don't know. It sounds to me like it could very well be Billy boy. He goes on like that in a lot of his songs. (‘Abbey’) 60if.proboards.com/thread/2696/billy-pepper-pepperpots?page=5#ixzz34YYfM3OO So we have different opinions on this matter. If you want to believe with Beacon that it was the Bee-Gees Bill Shepherd (who went Down Under) who did these albums, (http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beegees/65.html ) then he would have had to know the Beatle crowd who were producing the Beatles Book right next door to the Pickwick studio. (NB ‘Guitargaz’ averred that ‘ I worked as an Engineer at IBC studios from 1974-76’ but otherwise could not seem to validate his alleged identity as Gary son of BS. He couldn’t even manage to put up a pic of himself with his alleged father). But unless someone can show that that Bill Shepherd of the Bee-Gees sung, worked for Pickwick, or had a colleague Jimmy Frazer - any of these will do - I suggest this isn’t very likely. Cherliyn7 feels that the Paul replacement ‘had something to do with it [the two Pepperpot albums] and that he was a back room session musician/composer/arranger’. Right. After all, Faul must have come from somewhere. On the story, he has to have been not far away, because Epstein turns to him and asks him if he can step in to replace JPM, right after the accident. He surely has to have been a versatile session musician (‘the man with a thousand voices’). Then who did the 1967 Cowboy Favourites Bill Shepherd and the Ranch Hands, also a Pickwick-Allegro imprint, done in the same studio in Cricklewood? The same guy, surely. www.invanddis.proboards.com/thread/2672/bill-shepherd-uk-session-musician NB Compare Faul singing Rocky Racoon with Wild-West accent . Is there any Beatles bio which describes the regular car journey from Abbey Road up through Kilburn to 244 Edgware Road where the monthly Beatles Book was produced, next door to the Pickwick studio? "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? We know that he did not come through the door, the window, or the chimney. We also know that he could not have been concealed in the room, as there is no concealment possible. When, then, did he come?" Sherlock Holmes to Watson Astro4 I know you really want this Pepperpots thing to lead somewhere but a simple Google search for Bill Shepherd Jimmy Fraser will take you here; I am sorry if you don't want to accept this, but this is exactly the evidence you have just asked for. The Pepperpots thing is a red herring.
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Post by cherilyn7 on Jul 1, 2014 16:44:34 GMT -5
Most interesting Beacon; when the Bee Gees released "New York Mining Disaster 1941" 1967, they were unknown and people thought it did, indeed, sound like the harmonies of The Beatles (now defunct in their original incarnation). It would appear that this Bill Shepherd character was, indeed, on the payroll of Northern Songs and composing songs that may not, necessarily, have been credited to his name. That list of songs is impressive albeit from an earlier music era pre Beatles/Merseysound. Do we know what this Bill Shepherd looked like? The original replacement for Paul circa 1966 was, reputedly, older than JPM (was born in 1942 whoever that was) by some seven years. Therefore, the timescale could work out from that point of view...this is all supposition, of course. However, I do stick to what I said about "Bill" working for Dick James Publishing aka Northern Songs and knowing George Martin. There seems to have been more than one "Billy Shepherd" also the author of The True Story of The Beatles and numerous articles in The Beatles Monthly. Then the other pseudonym of "Billy Shears" on Sgt Pepper: where did that pseudonym come from? It is true that all the orchestra arrangements began with Sgt Pepper and "All You Need Is Love", so this "Bill" seems to have had influence over that departure as original Beatles did not have all that orchestra backing on their songs and the style of the music changed arguably from "Eleanor Rigby". This Bill Shepherd seems as though he was in the right place at the right time. Was the name just a nom-de-plume?
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Post by beacon on Jul 2, 2014 9:35:50 GMT -5
As for me, I intend to continue pissing in the wind until I utter something which meets with your approval as I fear my life will be meaningless without your glowing endorsement. P.S. As for my tomes, there is really no need to waste your hard earned ordering from Amazon as I am more than happy to send you them gratis. If only I had printed versions then I could have signed them for you! Too late! I already bought em And yes...it's all satire, good chap. Your blog is ESSENTIAL reading. But really...if there's anything SERIOUS I'm at (and there may not be...I haven't been 'advised' yet), then it would be to lift the quality of PID 'discourse' out of the 'Wake Up Sheeple' gutter into which it's fallen. If all that's going to be happening in PIDworld is the instantly-debunkable 'inflatable' (as per the idea that it wasn't Beat Publications who first revealed that Aspinall was Shepherd or the idea that visible accounts for a year or two of StandUp Films (sic) can be expanded to half a million a year) then really I just need to press the button on the bomb marked 'Dust the prints on a boomer's JPM collectible and compare them with those on an item in a Faulist collection'.That should sort the 'women' from the 'girls' Until this is done by a 'researcher', I act with pure venom upon IMPOSTERS, especially of the class of 'no need to debunk as it would be wasting internet ink on twunts. And I'm looking at YOU, Tina Foster'. Of course nobody has done this simple thing because they either don't want the 'game' to end or, more suspiciously, are (un)appointed 'social media agents' of the 'Let's anull the sixties' liberation AGAIN and get back to fifties' repression and religious dogma with all those creatives and peaceniks and protesters and HOMOSEXUALS locked up or otherwise disabled.' (Now THERE'S a conspiracy theory worth investigating! And it's best done by sense of smell) Just for the sake of clarity and because I am a SERIOUS researcher.... From 'You never give me your money' ....I don't just make this shit up you know!
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Post by astro4 on Jul 2, 2014 9:51:21 GMT -5
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Post by beacon on Jul 2, 2014 10:13:40 GMT -5
You will have to contact the author for the source; Joseph Brennan; brennan@columbia.edu. The website does have an acknowledgements page and looks legit, however, I cannot guarantee its authenticity.
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Post by astro4 on Jul 16, 2014 6:46:37 GMT -5
Beacon claims to be ‘a SERIOUS researcher’ - But makes his whole argument hinge upon an unsourced, undated text with no author?? Do me a favour. Don’t see its my business to email someone enquiring about validity of Beacon’s case – but I did so and of course got no reply. Here is what a real Bee-Gees Bill Shepherd Bio looks like: www.allmusic.com/artist/bill-shepherd-mn0001254379/biography OK, got the difference? Hmm, this seems a rather dormitive forum - no one has commented upon the question asked in this thread.
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Post by beacon on Jul 16, 2014 11:09:00 GMT -5
Beacon claims to be ‘a SERIOUS researcher’ - But makes his whole argument hinge upon an unsourced, undated text with no author?? Do me a favour. Don’t see its my business to email someone enquiring about validity of Beacon’s case – but I did so and of course got no reply. Here is what a real Bee-Gees Bill Shepherd Bio looks like: www.allmusic.com/artist/bill-shepherd-mn0001254379/biography OK, got the difference? Hmm, this seems a rather dormitive forum - no one has commented upon the question asked in this thread. How is any of this my case? I was merely trying to stop you from wasting anymore of your time on a red herring. I see now that I have failed in that endeavour and you clearly think you have solved the mystery. Well done. I fail to see what difference there is in the bio you posted and the website to which, I merely, pointed out to you besides that it fails to mention the Pepperpots album - other than that it is clearly the same guy. So what exactly is your point? If you wish to waste your time on this then good luck, but maybe the reason nobody has answered the question asked in the thread is because it leads nowhere.
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Post by astro4 on Sept 10, 2014 16:39:13 GMT -5
Hey , SunKing agrees with me that early-Faul was singing on the Pepperpot album: - He's alluding to the song 'Maybe i will' www.earthplanet.net/Maybe_I_Will.mp3 on the first of the albums, 'Merseymania.' That was from 1964.
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