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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 18:15:02 GMT -5
There are THREE lines in Sel's post that contradict each other to some extent! #1 "I view hotman as nothing but a nuisance poster". #2 "My personal feelings on hotman's posts are irrelevant" #3 "We were VERY lenient with hotman". That is the thing about Sel is HE CANNOT SEE his internal contradictions! In other words IF they were lenient AND his personal feelings had nothing to do with the banning then I would not be banned because the ONLY reason left is "nuisance poster" and that is NOT AN OBJECTIVE TRUTH! But you are a nuisance poster! You've not made a positive contribution to CCF, and I would now like to see evidence you have positively and meaningfully contributed to any forum you've joined. And yes, they were extremely lenient with you, and we have all tolerated your behaviour. And if people want to go and understand Hotman, you need to dig deep. We did: conserpiracy.boards.net/thread/456/hotmans-fatherIn short, he was a child in a deeply dysfunctional family, and this has scarred him psychologically. This is the man who is wailing away on this forum. Hotman, you have been given a lot of patience, but it has run out. CCF - and this one - are serious places, and are full of people wanting to properly and intelligently research and investigate things happening in the world around us. Both are not clown forums, they are not your personal playpen. So, can you just grow up, and pipe down... and let the adults go do their work? That's a good little Hotman...
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Post by Huxleys_halo on Jan 24, 2015 18:15:39 GMT -5
What were you selling?! You never asked anyone for a penny.
Selling had nothing to do with your suspension. Nothing, nada, zip, nein, niente.
You have been told why you were suspended, and this explanation was backed up with screenshots, and can be backed up again by anyone who has ever interacted with you on a forum.
Whether you choose to believe this obvious truth or not is up to you.
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Post by Huxleys_halo on Jan 24, 2015 18:16:43 GMT -5
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Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 18:19:54 GMT -5
What were you selling?! You never asked anyone for a penny. Selling had nothing to do with your suspension. Nothing, nada, zip, nein, niente. You have been told why you were suspended, and this explanation was backed up with screenshots, and can be backed up again by anyone who has ever interacted with you on a forum. Whether you choose to believe this obvious truth or not is up to you. Yes I was suspended because I was off topic but the topic was Shanti making an offer! I was MAKING an OFFER TOO! We were both MAKING OFFERS! She MENTIONED MY NAME so I responded with MY OFFER! So the QUESTION is (once again) what is your POLICY toward selling and offers on your forum! Because if I did not break that policy I WAS NOT OFF TOPIC!
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 18:31:42 GMT -5
These points are not in the least contradictory Hotman, the fact you think they are points to your comprehension skills, not Sel's contrariness. Sel has personal feelings towards posters, as he is a person and as we all do, but he does not let these feelings influence moderation decisions. That is the point he was making. Seleukos cannot ban/suspend ANYONE without my express approval and agreement. I would never agree to ban anyone just because he found them annoying or had an argument with them, nor would he do the same for me. I agreed you be suspended because I too am tired of your trolling and derailing, and as it happens it was ME who suggested your suspension, not Sel! I WAS NOT "trolling and derailing"! Since YOU have not told the REAL REASON (correct me if I am wrong) why you are banning me I shall have to explain it! You are mad because I made an offer to ShantiUniverse AFTER she made an offer to EVERYONE ( she mentions my name!)! In other words I was EXACTLY ON TOPIC!!!!! That is what has got everyone all hot and bothered! That is what the REAL problem on these forums is! When posters try to SELL things that the someone does not like then they ban people! Slowtwitch banned me for the same reason because I was seen as "competing" with Dan Empfield (even though I was not selling ANY product and asked for NO money). The REAL problem is you have NO consistent POLICY (that I can see) on SELLING and making offers on your website! IF Shanti can make offers on your forum than SO CAN I !!! You need a CONSISTANT rule! Either EVERYONE can make "offers" and sell or NO ONE CAN! See the real problem is MONEY! Why didn't you just say that? An offer? Like you did with me? For the record, he has been propositioning lots of forum members, so they could marry him, and they can start his religion. Including me, and I'm not female!
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Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 18:33:40 GMT -5
See that is the reason I keep asking for your POLICY on selling and offers on your forum so then we are all on the SAME PAGE!
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 18:43:14 GMT -5
What were you selling?! You never asked anyone for a penny. Selling had nothing to do with your suspension. Nothing, nada, zip, nein, niente. You have been told why you were suspended, and this explanation was backed up with screenshots, and can be backed up again by anyone who has ever interacted with you on a forum. Whether you choose to believe this obvious truth or not is up to you. Yes I was suspended because I was off topic but the topic was Shanti making an offer! I was MAKING an OFFER TOO! We were both MAKING OFFERS! She MENTIONED MY NAME so I responded with MY OFFER! So the QUESTION is (once again) what is your POLICY toward selling and offers on your forum! Because if I did not break that policy I WAS NOT OFF TOPIC! Can someone - anyone - please direct me to this post in question? I think that, if we are to get clarification, Hotman had better give us a link to it, to explain what the flames he is babbling on about this time...
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 18:47:54 GMT -5
See that is the reason I keep asking for your POLICY on selling and offers on your forum so then we are all on the SAME PAGE! How about not propositioning people? That is one set of offers you can refrain from doing. And I think no-one will ever be on the same page as you... you wandered off into a completely different book long ago, and we don't know what shelf to look for to find you...
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Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 18:48:32 GMT -5
It is the "God is woman" thread.
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Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 18:53:49 GMT -5
See that is the reason I keep asking for your POLICY on selling and offers on your forum so then we are all on the SAME PAGE! How about not propositioning people? That is one set of offers you can refrain from doing. And I think no-one will ever be on the same page as you... you wandered off into a completely different book long ago, and we don't know what shelf to look for to find you... I know but does that include ALL people and ALL propositions (business and otherwise)? That would be fine with me but than Shanti can't make her offer (which I have no problem with). That is the thing either you ban ALL propositions or you ban NONE of them. Of course you make it somewhere in between (just banning hotman's for example) but then since I did not know that rule at the time you cannot suspend me from the forum for a rule I did not know.
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 18:55:21 GMT -5
WHERE in that thread.. I am not randomly searching a thread that is hundreds of posts long, just to go and verify what you are saying.
You are making these claims, the onus is upon YOU to go and prove it. If you can't, we know what you are full of, don't we?
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Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 18:58:16 GMT -5
WHERE in that thread.. I am not randomly searching a thread that is hundreds of posts long, just to go and verify what you are saying. You are making these claims, the onus is upon YOU to go and prove it. If you can't, we know what you are full of, don't we? It is the second post down on the last page of the thread.
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 19:00:50 GMT -5
How about not propositioning people? That is one set of offers you can refrain from doing. And I think no-one will ever be on the same page as you... you wandered off into a completely different book long ago, and we don't know what shelf to look for to find you... I know but does that include ALL people and ALL propositions (business and otherwise)? That would be fine with me but than Shanti can't make her offer (which I have no problem with). That is the thing either you ban ALL propositions or you ban NONE of them. Of course you make it somewhere in between (just banning hotman's for example) but then since I did not know that rule at the time you cannot suspend me from the forum for a rule I did not know. Ah... you are setting up a logic loop argument, to send me in a circle, getting utterly confused with what is being said... Nice try, but I grew up in a family forever using mind games. So I know what i am seeing, when I'm seeing it. So stop it, you are only making yourself look alike a desperate fool. Which you are, because you are still whining away on this forum. interesting how no-one here has gone to defend you or back you up... Why is that now? As for your question, I have a simple answer. How about using your common sense to work out what is proper and what is not? It works for the rest of us, give it a try, and see how it improves things for you.
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 19:03:29 GMT -5
WHERE in that thread.. I am not randomly searching a thread that is hundreds of posts long, just to go and verify what you are saying. You are making these claims, the onus is upon YOU to go and prove it. If you can't, we know what you are full of, don't we? It is the second post down on the last page of the thread. Link to it, please. Also, quote what was said hre, so everyone can go and judge for themselves. You wanted this public arena, you can now go and produce the evidence to back up your case. Hux and Sel aren't here... I am. And I'm a whole different ball game. You make the claim, produce the evidence.
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Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 19:08:13 GMT -5
I know but does that include ALL people and ALL propositions (business and otherwise)? That would be fine with me but than Shanti can't make her offer (which I have no problem with). That is the thing either you ban ALL propositions or you ban NONE of them. Of course you make it somewhere in between (just banning hotman's for example) but then since I did not know that rule at the time you cannot suspend me from the forum for a rule I did not know. Ah... you are setting up a logic loop argument, to send me in a circle, getting utterly confused with what is being said... Nice try, but I grew up in a family forever using mind games. So I know what i am seeing, when I'm seeing it. So stop it, you are only making yourself look alike a desperate fool. Which you are, because you are still whining away on this forum. interesting how no-one here has gone to defend you or back you up... Why is that now? As for your question, I have a simple answer. How about using your common sense to work out what is proper and what is not? It works for the rest of us, give it a try, and see how it improves things for you. Fine use your common sense. That is a fine rule so they would be suspending me for a rule that did not exist at the time I broke it! Anyhow you guys NEED a POLICY because this problem will come up again! Many people are on the net to SELL things even if they don't say it so you need a good policy to deal with that! Good luck!
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Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 19:11:32 GMT -5
It is the second post down on the last page of the thread. Link to it, please. Also, quote what was said hre, so everyone can go and judge for themselves. You wanted this public arena, you can now go and produce the evidence to back up your case. Hux and Sel aren't here... I am. And I'm a whole different ball game. You make the claim, produce the evidence. Well to make that fair you also have to put the original post that Shanti made. And then my response to see I am not off topic like they say. I can't do all that because I am suspended!
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 19:18:29 GMT -5
Ah... you are setting up a logic loop argument, to send me in a circle, getting utterly confused with what is being said... Nice try, but I grew up in a family forever using mind games. So I know what i am seeing, when I'm seeing it. So stop it, you are only making yourself look alike a desperate fool. Which you are, because you are still whining away on this forum. interesting how no-one here has gone to defend you or back you up... Why is that now? As for your question, I have a simple answer. How about using your common sense to work out what is proper and what is not? It works for the rest of us, give it a try, and see how it improves things for you. Fine use your common sense. That is a fine rule so they would be suspending me for a rule that did not exist at the time I broke it! Anyhow you guys NEED a POLICY because this problem will come up again! Many people are on the net to SELL things even if they don't say it so you need a good policy to deal with that! Good luck! You were not suspended for trying to sell anything. Stop trying to weasel out of it. You have been given continuous warnings to stop derailing every single thread you looked at. You started off in the thread "The Hour Of Courage," and just continued on from there. I'm one of the longest running members over there, I remember when you first appeared.
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Post by hotman637 on Jan 24, 2015 19:26:43 GMT -5
No as I said and everybody agrees I was suspended for being off topic! BUT the TOPIC was "Want to earn real money online? NOT A SCAM." Shanti WAS SELLING SOMETHING! Great! Nothing wrong with that. But if she gets to sell something so do I! So I made her an offer because she MENTIONED MY NAME! Now as I said if they don't want people making offers or selling things then they better MAKE A RULE that says that! If they don't want me to sell anything and make offers then DO THAT and I won't make any more offers! BUT they can't ban me for a rule I did not know. I mean THEY CAN but it does not look good, lol!
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 19:38:50 GMT -5
Link to it, please. Also, quote what was said hre, so everyone can go and judge for themselves. You wanted this public arena, you can now go and produce the evidence to back up your case. Hux and Sel aren't here... I am. And I'm a whole different ball game. You make the claim, produce the evidence. Well to make that fair you also have to put the original post that Shanti made. And then my response to see I am not off topic like they say. I can't do all that because I am suspended! RUBBISH.
Even suspended you can do that. You can look at the forum, and read everything. You can copy and past stuff, and get links. But you don't because you clearly know what that would mean.... Clearly, you are too cowardly to do it. Fine. I'll do it for you... okay?
Yes, that one is typical of your utterly childish, playground mentality. ME? YOU are the one that started all these idiotic insults! It was the same on Slowtwitch. People like you RUN OUT OF MATERIAL so you resort to insults. It is STUPID! Let me explain how these forums SHOULD work. I should not have to go through all this but it seems people don't GET IT. Step #1 One of us makes a post.Step #2 The other person makes a post that agrees or disagrees or some other comment about the original post. (NO INSULTS!). #3 It just goes back and forth like that until some gets bored or runs out of answers or material. If you have run out of material and have nothing left to contribute to the conversation, SHUT UP! Simple!
Your post was moved because it was completely irrelevant to the thread you were posting in, which is something you do an awful lot. Do you have anything of interest to contribute to the forum, or are you just here because you have no other platforms to be your idiotic, repetitive, time-wasting, attention-seeking self? Seleukos you have insulted me enough! Turn around is fair play! You are a SELF RIGHTOUS STUPID ASSHOLE! I was only doing the SAME THING SHANTI WAS DOING (making an offer). If you don't like it TOUGH SHIT!
And what was this "offer" post you keep whining about? Oh... THIS:
We can make BILLIONS of dollars! ALL you have to do is BE GOD! We start a new religion and you own at least 51%! You just keep doing EXACTLEY what you are doing you but you are God! It is EASY! Just announce you are God and BLAME hotman637! We will make billions!
They moved my post but this is for Shanti! Hux does not seem to want to make billions so the opportunity is still wide open!
And the title of this post in the thread? This:
Re: Want to Earn REAL Money Online? NOT A SCAM
Now, that thread is in the OFF-Topic section. So, you propositioned Shanti - again - and derailed a legitimate thread.
The EXACT LINK to the post you keep citing as evidence: conserpiracy.boards.net/post/5379/thread
All the quotes above can be found here: conserpiracy.boards.net/thread/411/god-woman-hotman637-thread?page=45#scrollTo=5476Now... Your offer was to have a woman end up with you. That is not acceptible at all, on any forum. It is embarrassing and humilating for the person on the other end. Do you understand now? You need to buck up your ideas, or else you will end up lost, lonely and miserable in your old age - and that is just round the corner for you. Sort yourself out, and get your life in order. Because you are a dysfunctional mess, a tragic man who has never gotten over the pain of what his mother did to his father. Guess what? LOTS of people have bad upbringings and rubbish parents. You have to rise above it, and learn from their mistakes, to avoid repeating them for the next generation. So... What is your next pathetic excuse for your legitimate suspension? Go on, I'm eager to hear it...
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 19:46:27 GMT -5
No as I said and everybody agrees I was suspended for being off topic! BUT the TOPIC was "Want to earn real money online? NOT A SCAM." Shanti WAS SELLING SOMETHING! Great! Nothing wrong with that. But if she gets to sell something so do I! So I made her an offer because she MENTIONED MY NAME! Now as I said if they don't want people making offers or selling things then they better MAKE A RULE that says that! If they don't want me to sell anything and make offers then DO THAT and I won't make any more offers! BUT they can't ban me for a rule I did not know. I mean THEY CAN but it does not look good, lol! THAT DOES IT.Hi guys! I've recently been looking into ways how I can increase my revenue online and found something great that anyone can do online and wanted to share! Become an affilate partner with eBay! Its easy and free, you sign up then advertise products on eBay that you can choose, no need to purchase the product, then simply post about it on forums or websites or even Facebook! Get paid per click to the product link and get paid even more if they purchase the product you advertised! Up to .20 cents per click and up to $5-10 per purchase! Paid to you from eBay to your PayPal account. To get started, you do need to tell eBay where you will be posting the majority of your adverts, you are more than welcome to use my website Proxy Ponder News! You can then write articles about products you want to sell on my website and post for free! It is not a scam, 100% legit, you can work from any country and get paid in your currency via PayPal. Lots of people are making money from this affilate program online. With time and persistance you can make good money online, I can vouch for that, a year ago I started my YouTube channel for fun, and a few months ago I quit my job (back in Texas) and did not need to find another one because I was earning as much as I did when I was working full time. Now I get to stay home and do my passion of making interesting videos and creating an awesome website! You might wonder well if I'm making full time money, then why do I seem like I'm trying to earn more now? I am dedicated to my online business and what I do and my goal is to be earning $4k a month by 2016. Also I use 10% of my earnings monthly on advertising, more money more advertising. If you want to become an official author of Proxy Ponder, so you can have more control over your content posts, message me and I will set you up and even give you your own email like: JohnDoe@proxyponder.com I need more poster for content on my website and it has been growing great recently, in one month I've doubled my page views, and now its starting to earn really nice! I do use paid advertising for my site so you are getting access to a platform that is professional. If you need help getting started, I am willing to write into detail on how to get going, also we can even chat on skype if thats easier. I can teach you some amazing 'tricks of the trade' to get people to click your links! I am also signed up for this program so I'm not just asking you do it, I am doing as well. I am also not making this offer to just anyone, this if for the awesome people on this forum, yes you too hotman637! All of you are excellent writers and would exceed well! Even if you think you can't write well, its fine! Recently, I've stopped trying to write my posts all 'pro-style' because its exhausting! I've been writing articles exactly how I talk, and have been getting lots of views on those posts! I think people respond to it better because its possibly easier to understand and such. So many writing styles are welcome! **Also, on a side note, I want to ask a favor! I do have a forum on my site, though I need it to get going other than just me posting lol. I'm not asking to post there alot, just come over and post a little bit like," Wow, this is a cool website!" etc.. Say anything! lol Its a muut forum which is really cool, its a hybrid of a forum, chatroom, IM, comments in real time. You can login through Facebook, twitter or make an account, I think you can even post annoymous. That would be awesome to see a few posts or comments! Thanks for your help! eBay Affilate Program: https://www.ebaypartnernetwork.com/files/hub/en-US/index.html Proxy Ponder Forum: http://proxyponder.com/forum/ Post questions here or message me! Thanks! =) SOURCE: conserpiracy.boards.net/thread/517/earn-real-money-online-scam?page=1#scrollTo=5496Does this look - at all - like she is asking for a romantic or sexual partner? NO. So you were not only off topic, but also utterly out of order with what you said. Get it now? You don't proposition women on a forum. They don't like it, and it gives you a very distinct, nasty aura to you. So... what next? I'm waiting to hear your next pathetic excuse....
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Post by linus on Jan 24, 2015 21:01:43 GMT -5
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Post by Huxleys_halo on Jan 24, 2015 21:11:17 GMT -5
Cheerleading for Avacyn! Go Ava, go Ava!
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Post by Avacyn on Jan 24, 2015 21:38:50 GMT -5
Sorry for exploding earlier folks, but he really wound me up.
If you want to play mind games with me around be very, VERY good at them. Because I grew up with he Yoda of mind games doing all of that on me, so I'm very well aware of it all.
Three key facts here, though:
1: No-one on this forum has come to defend him. Very revealing. 2: He is trying to create a forum war of some sorts, to try and get sympathy here. 3: He has yet to return, and he was online when I posted all of that up. That means he saw it, then went offline. No doubt to go and have a think over what to do.
He tried to make himself the victim, and tried to weasel out of the evidence being shown. Bad idea. I am deeply persistent, and if I know you want to avoid an issue, I'll just keep going some more.
He has now got me so fired up and angry I just want to continually slap him round the back of the head, to make common sense penetrate that thick, thick cranium of his. But I'm more likely to damage my hand before sense enters him.
And thanks for the Cheerleading Hux!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 23:41:27 GMT -5
You were not suspended for trying to sell anything. Stop trying to weasel out of it. You have been given continuous warnings to stop derailing every single thread you looked at. You started off in the thread "The Hour Of Courage," and just continued on from there. I'm one of the longest running members over there, I remember when you first appeared.
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Post by hotman637 on Jan 25, 2015 12:12:26 GMT -5
No as I said and everybody agrees I was suspended for being off topic! BUT the TOPIC was "Want to earn real money online? NOT A SCAM." Shanti WAS SELLING SOMETHING! Great! Nothing wrong with that. But if she gets to sell something so do I! So I made her an offer because she MENTIONED MY NAME! Now as I said if they don't want people making offers or selling things then they better MAKE A RULE that says that! If they don't want me to sell anything and make offers then DO THAT and I won't make any more offers! BUT they can't ban me for a rule I did not know. I mean THEY CAN but it does not look good, lol! THAT DOES IT.Hi guys! I've recently been looking into ways how I can increase my revenue online and found something great that anyone can do online and wanted to share! Become an affilate partner with eBay! Its easy and free, you sign up then advertise products on eBay that you can choose, no need to purchase the product, then simply post about it on forums or websites or even Facebook! Get paid per click to the product link and get paid even more if they purchase the product you advertised! Up to .20 cents per click and up to $5-10 per purchase! Paid to you from eBay to your PayPal account. To get started, you do need to tell eBay where you will be posting the majority of your adverts, you are more than welcome to use my website Proxy Ponder News! You can then write articles about products you want to sell on my website and post for free! It is not a scam, 100% legit, you can work from any country and get paid in your currency via PayPal. Lots of people are making money from this affilate program online. With time and persistance you can make good money online, I can vouch for that, a year ago I started my YouTube channel for fun, and a few months ago I quit my job (back in Texas) and did not need to find another one because I was earning as much as I did when I was working full time. Now I get to stay home and do my passion of making interesting videos and creating an awesome website! You might wonder well if I'm making full time money, then why do I seem like I'm trying to earn more now? I am dedicated to my online business and what I do and my goal is to be earning $4k a month by 2016. Also I use 10% of my earnings monthly on advertising, more money more advertising. If you want to become an official author of Proxy Ponder, so you can have more control over your content posts, message me and I will set you up and even give you your own email like: JohnDoe@proxyponder.com I need more poster for content on my website and it has been growing great recently, in one month I've doubled my page views, and now its starting to earn really nice! I do use paid advertising for my site so you are getting access to a platform that is professional. If you need help getting started, I am willing to write into detail on how to get going, also we can even chat on skype if thats easier. I can teach you some amazing 'tricks of the trade' to get people to click your links! I am also signed up for this program so I'm not just asking you do it, I am doing as well. I am also not making this offer to just anyone, this if for the awesome people on this forum, yes you too hotman637! All of you are excellent writers and would exceed well! Even if you think you can't write well, its fine! Recently, I've stopped trying to write my posts all 'pro-style' because its exhausting! I've been writing articles exactly how I talk, and have been getting lots of views on those posts! I think people respond to it better because its possibly easier to understand and such. So many writing styles are welcome! **Also, on a side note, I want to ask a favor! I do have a forum on my site, though I need it to get going other than just me posting lol. I'm not asking to post there alot, just come over and post a little bit like," Wow, this is a cool website!" etc.. Say anything! lol Its a muut forum which is really cool, its a hybrid of a forum, chatroom, IM, comments in real time. You can login through Facebook, twitter or make an account, I think you can even post annoymous. That would be awesome to see a few posts or comments! Thanks for your help! eBay Affilate Program: https://www.ebaypartnernetwork.com/files/hub/en-US/index.html Proxy Ponder Forum: http://proxyponder.com/forum/ Post questions here or message me! Thanks! =) SOURCE: conserpiracy.boards.net/thread/517/earn-real-money-online-scam?page=1#scrollTo=5496Does this look - at all - like she is asking for a romantic or sexual partner? NO. So you were not only off topic, but also utterly out of order with what you said. Get it now? You don't proposition women on a forum. They don't like it, and it gives you a very distinct, nasty aura to you. So... what next? I'm waiting to hear your next pathetic excuse.... I DID NOT ASK HER TO BE A ROMANTIC OR SEXUAL PARTNER!!!!!!!! I asked her if she wanted to BE GOD and own 51% of my religion! It was about MONEY same as her post! You better learm how to read before you make more posts like that!
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