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Post by thatisgroovyman on Apr 24, 2016 13:19:38 GMT -5
Faul was already around in '65: Maybe McCartney didn't die, but suffered injuries.
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Post by chica on Apr 24, 2016 15:12:15 GMT -5
Look at the chins, the one on the right is much longer, as a matter of fact it almost comes to a point and look at the big cleft in it!
"You been a naughty boy you let your face grow long."
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Post by thatisgroovyman on Apr 24, 2016 17:13:44 GMT -5
Ah, good point about that chin! Surgical alteration, possibily? I don't believe JPM is dead these days, but that he did suffer a car accident in 1965. Maybe August-September 1965. This accident didn't kill him, but further proved him incapable of making any further public appearances, therefore doubles were trained and used throughout the Beatles career. JPM was in the studio quite a bit, but wasn't quite the same mentally. When Sgt. Pepper's was being made, JPM's mental capacity was degrading further into new lows, due to high consumage of LSD. JPM seemed to have even concluded that his actual soul departed his from body after the accident in '65, and that the soul of Aleister Crowley now possessed him, further prompting him to believe he was the 'Son Of The Magickian.' Anyways, Rubber Soul hints the accident with two stand-out songs: 'Drive My Car' and 'I'm Looking Through You.' Remember what Faulie said, 'there are TWO Paul McCartney's.'
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Post by thatisgroovyman on Apr 24, 2016 20:48:51 GMT -5
Paperback Writer, he said!
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Post by chica on Apr 24, 2016 22:24:02 GMT -5
Uhhhhh, you can't surgically stretch a chin. I don't believe JPM is dead these days, but that he did suffer a car accident in 1965. Maybe August-September 1965. This accident didn't kill him, but further proved him incapable of making any further public appearances, therefore doubles were trained and used throughout the Beatles career. JPM was in the studio quite a bit, but wasn't quite the same mentally. When Sgt. Pepper's was being made, JPM's mental capacity was degrading further into new lows, due to high consumage of LSD. JPM seemed to have even concluded that his actual soul departed his from body after the accident in '65, and that the soul of Aleister Crowley now possessed him, further prompting him to believe he was the 'Son Of The Magickian.' Anyways, Rubber Soul hints the accident with two stand-out songs: 'Drive My Car' and 'I'm Looking Through You.' Remember what Faulie said, 'there are TWO Paul McCartney's.'
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Post by chica on Apr 24, 2016 22:24:26 GMT -5
So your off the Kray twins theory?
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Post by chica on Apr 25, 2016 8:13:18 GMT -5
So your off the Kray twins theory?
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Post by chica on Apr 25, 2016 8:20:41 GMT -5
So your off the Kray twins theory?
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Post by uglycustard on Apr 25, 2016 10:53:17 GMT -5
Is it not just weight loss from the face?
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Post by thatisgroovyman on Apr 25, 2016 14:52:37 GMT -5
So your off the Kray twins theory? Not exactly, I'm just open to various options/explanations as to what happened to McCartney in the mid-60s.
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Post by chica on Apr 26, 2016 10:23:39 GMT -5
So your off the Kray twins theory? Not exactly, I'm just open to various options/explanations as to what happened to McCartney in the mid-60s. I find this very odd. Why are John and George helping Nicola blow up a red balloon and George is dressed like a gangster holding a gun with a bird pecking on his hat in the MMT booklet in the EPI version.
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Post by chica on Apr 27, 2016 10:06:02 GMT -5
I find this very odd. Why are John and George helping Nicola blow up a red balloon and George is dressed like a gangster holding a gun with a bird pecking on his hat in the MMT booklet in the EPI version.
Hmm... Seem to be Sir Paul portraying John. Hair and nose belong to Sir Paul. I don't see that at all, the nose is clearly John's. By the time they made MMT John was in and out of hairstyles all the time.
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Post by chica on Apr 27, 2016 10:48:33 GMT -5
I find this very odd. Why are John and George helping Nicola blow up a red balloon and George is dressed like a gangster holding a gun with a bird pecking on his hat in the MMT booklet in the EPI version.
Hmm... Seem to be Sir Paul portraying John. Hair and nose belong to Sir Paul. Look at his hair, it's exactly like it is in the cartoon:
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Post by chica on Apr 28, 2016 11:57:07 GMT -5
I don't see that at all, the nose is clearly John's. By the time they made MMT John was in and out of hairstyles all the time. You could be right. As a matter of fact, the first time he cut his mop top hair was in the filming of "How I Won The War" during the recording of St. Pepper:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 18:46:46 GMT -5
lol
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Post by chica on Apr 28, 2016 21:06:56 GMT -5
lol Yeah, just imagine if he had treated his son with respect and love. I hope he's burning in hell for the way he treated Julian!, and his mom!
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Post by superman on Apr 29, 2016 12:05:03 GMT -5
lol Yeah, just imagine if he had treated his son with respect and love. I hope he's burning in hell for the way he treated Julian!, and his mom! I always felt that long-suffering Cynthia was smarter than she looked and knew which way the winds of fortune were blowing when she became pregnant with Julian in '62. Of course John couldn't have been a "present" father at the time of Julian's birth because the Beatles were just beginning to take off on an unprecedented meteoric rise. Still, there was no excuse for him not having more contact with the kid later on.
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Post by chica on Apr 29, 2016 16:08:23 GMT -5
Yeah, just imagine if he had treated his son with respect and love. I hope he's burning in hell for the way he treated Julian!, and his mom! I always felt that long-suffering Cynthia was smarter than she looked and knew which way the winds of fortune were blowing when she became pregnant with Julian in '62. Of course John couldn't have been a "present" father at the time of Julian's birth because the Beatles were just beginning to take off on an unprecedented meteoric rise. Still, there was no excuse for him not having more contact with the kid later on. Since they met at the Liverpool College of Art which John Lennon also attended and a meeting with Cynthia in a calligraphy class led to their relationship before the Beatles were ever famous, I seriously doubt she was a golddigger, the goldigger was that biosh Yoko.
P.S I just finished reading Here There And Everywhere by Geoff Emerick. You said you read it and that he said when he recorded McFartney's music after the Beatles breakup that he had to do it with the windows in the recording room blacked out. You had to have read some other book because that wasn't in the book.
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Post by hotman637 on Apr 29, 2016 19:45:43 GMT -5
I always felt that long-suffering Cynthia was smarter than she looked and knew which way the winds of fortune were blowing when she became pregnant with Julian in '62. Of course John couldn't have been a "present" father at the time of Julian's birth because the Beatles were just beginning to take off on an unprecedented meteoric rise. Still, there was no excuse for him not having more contact with the kid later on. Since they met at the Liverpool College of Art which John Lennon also attended and a meeting with Cynthia in a calligraphy class led to their relationship before the Beatles were ever famous, I seriously doubt she was a golddigger, the goldigger was that biosh Yoko.
P.S I just finished reading Here There And Everywhere by Geoff Emerick. You said you read it and that he said when he recorded McFartney's music after the Beatles breakup that he had to do it with the windows in the recording room blacked out. You had to have read some other book because that wasn't in the book. No I said that he FIRST recorded the Beatles back in the early sixties they were in SEPARATE rooms with no windows! I could be wrong but that is how I remember the book. I will see if I can find more about that. It just seemed awfully strange to me!
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Post by chica on Apr 29, 2016 20:14:31 GMT -5
Since they met at the Liverpool College of Art which John Lennon also attended and a meeting with Cynthia in a calligraphy class led to their relationship before the Beatles were ever famous, I seriously doubt she was a golddigger, the goldigger was that biosh Yoko.
P.S I just finished reading Here There And Everywhere by Geoff Emerick. You said you read it and that he said when he recorded McFartney's music after the Beatles breakup that he had to do it with the windows in the recording room blacked out. You had to have read some other book because that wasn't in the book. No I said that he FIRST recorded the Beatles back in the early sixties they were in SEPARATE rooms with no windows! I could be wrong but that is how I remember the book. I will see if I can find more about that. It just seemed awfully strange to me! You said this on thatsgrooveyman's post about the replacement timeline: The control room was up a flight of stairs not like they are now down level with the musicians, so it made it hard to interact with them they had to speak to them on speakers. He never said that sessions musicians replaced the Beatles totally. A guy named Andy White did sit in for Ringo on drums because being of small stature Ringo couldn't get a certain song right.
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Post by superman on Apr 29, 2016 22:35:54 GMT -5
P.S I just finished reading Here There And Everywhere by Geoff Emerick. You said you read it and that he said when he recorded McFartney's music after the Beatles breakup that he had to do it with the windows in the recording room blacked out. You had to have read some other book because that wasn't in the book.
I've never even heard of that book, let alone suggested that I've read it. You must be referring to someone else.
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Post by chica on Apr 29, 2016 23:45:35 GMT -5
P.S I just finished reading Here There And Everywhere by Geoff Emerick. You said you read it and that he said when he recorded McFartney's music after the Beatles breakup that he had to do it with the windows in the recording room blacked out. You had to have read some other book because that wasn't in the book.
I've never even heard of that book, let alone suggested that I've read it. You must be referring to someone else.Sorry, that was hotman637. my bad.
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Post by hotman637 on Apr 30, 2016 11:37:58 GMT -5
No I said that he FIRST recorded the Beatles back in the early sixties they were in SEPARATE rooms with no windows! I could be wrong but that is how I remember the book. I will see if I can find more about that. It just seemed awfully strange to me! You said this on thatsgrooveyman's post about the replacement timeline: The control room was up a flight of stairs not like they are now down level with the musicians, so it made it hard to interact with them they had to speak to them on speakers. He never said that sessions musicians replaced the Beatles totally. A guy named Andy White did sit in for Ringo on drums because being of small stature Ringo couldn't get a certain song right. Yes I agree Geoff never said that session people TOTALLY replaced the Beatles that was MY deduction based on the fact Geoff could not see the Beatles when he was recording them! So the Beatles COULD have been replaced with session people and Geoff may not of known it (At the time. He probably figured it out eventually). To me it is just so strange to have one of the most famous "professional" recording studios in the world and not be able to see who he was recording! It is an awfully strange situation on top of all the other strange things about the Beatles.
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Post by chica on Apr 30, 2016 13:01:12 GMT -5
You said this on thatsgrooveyman's post about the replacement timeline: The control room was up a flight of stairs not like they are now down level with the musicians, so it made it hard to interact with them they had to speak to them on speakers. He never said that sessions musicians replaced the Beatles totally. A guy named Andy White did sit in for Ringo on drums because being of small stature Ringo couldn't get a certain song right. Yes I agree Geoff never said that session people TOTALLY replaced the Beatles that was MY deduction based on the fact Geoff could not see the Beatles when he was recording them! So the Beatles COULD have been replaced with session people and Geoff may not of known it (At the time. He probably figured it out eventually). To me it is just so strange to have one of the most famous "professional" recording studios in the world and not be able to see who he was recording! It is an awfully strange situation on top of all the other strange things about the Beatles. He could see, there was a window that he could look down on the studio from the control booth. Plus the fact that he was constantly going down there to adjust microphones and do other things. Like I said before Geoff admitted that a sessions musician Andy White set in for Ringo on Love Me Do and Please Please Me.
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Post by chica on Apr 30, 2016 17:25:34 GMT -5
Yes I agree Geoff never said that session people TOTALLY replaced the Beatles that was MY deduction based on the fact Geoff could not see the Beatles when he was recording them! So the Beatles COULD have been replaced with session people and Geoff may not of known it (At the time. He probably figured it out eventually). To me it is just so strange to have one of the most famous "professional" recording studios in the world and not be able to see who he was recording! It is an awfully strange situation on top of all the other strange things about the Beatles. He could see, there was a window that he could look down on the studio from the control booth. Plus the fact that he was constantly going down there to adjust microphones and do other things. Like I said before Geoff admitted that a sessions musician Andy White set in for Ringo on Love Me Do and Please Please Me. Geoff doesn't give a date but he was there when Andy White set in for Ringo on Love Me Do and Please Please Me, which according to Wikipedia was the Beatles 2nd. session on Sept.11,1962 when White re-recorded LMD and PPM, and saw the reaction of the Beatles in the studio when Mal Evans told them what was up. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Me_DoGeoff goes into that in Chapter 4 and how they did have to sit in a separate room when taping them. pg.48......."The remainder of my first week at EMI passed uneventfully, as I followed Richard around from session to session, some classical, some pop. Those sessions that were recorded on four-track instead of two-track were definitely less fun, because we had to sit in a separate machine room and not the control room. Looking back on it, it was an insane way to work: instead of being in the same room as the producer and balance engineer, you'd receive instructions over an intercom as to when to start and stop the tape machine." He didn't become their full time sound engineer until Sgt. Pepper. ultimateclassicrock.com/beatles-sgt-pepper-song/
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