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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 2, 2017 11:41:49 GMT -5
Yes, the young Paul was cute, adorable, funny, nice, etc. And whether he died, left or just got older, the result is the same: He's gone. "Now am I dead, Now am I fled" (like he said in the Shakespeare script here): www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhJ67QsFg1Q
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 2, 2017 12:13:34 GMT -5
But thanks to the wonderful world wide web and thanks to the people who put things on it, we can see him alive again. We can watch Beatles concerts in a lot of different cities. Here is a list of them: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_BHere is a list of the interviews they gave, with the transcripts: www.beatlesinterviews.org/And here is a list of the TV appearances: beatlesource.com/TV/index.htmlYou can search and find a big part of all of that on Youtube and on Google. It is really fun to watch.
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 2, 2017 12:38:49 GMT -5
You can also find a lot of pictures by searching for images of the Beatles and Paul McCartney by year (especially from 1963 to 1966) and add any word(s) in order to get a different set of pictures. For example, you can search for: beatles 1963 Paul McCartney 1964 face beatles 1965 funny Paul McCartney 1966 teeth nose You can post your favorite online pictures here by doing this: invanddis.proboards.com/thread/2066/picture-helpTo post your favorite videos, you can do this: invanddis.proboards.com/thread/2078/embedded-video
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Post by applepie on Jan 2, 2017 16:01:52 GMT -5
People age; and people die. Some people don't— however.
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Post by ramone on Jan 2, 2017 19:34:56 GMT -5
They're both Paul. Kinda laughable, isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 23:06:46 GMT -5
lol
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 3, 2017 10:53:56 GMT -5
They're both Paul. Kinda laughable, isn't it? Hi Ramone, no, they're obviously not the same person. There were many doubles of Paul and of the Beatles, especially when they were doing concerts. Probably all the big stars and other public figures like politicians have some to protect themselves. It looks like the doubles who had done the most touring took some time off to rest and to do something else and then they were replaced by some very bad doubles. It is written in many places that this camera guy underwent many surgeries and finally looked like the young Paul (page 3): 60if.proboards.com/thread/2679/all-doubters-evolution-faul I think it's rather that one of the good-looking Pauls had come back. So everybody, IF YOU SEE DOUBLES when looking at pictures, write down the facial features of each, try to tell them apart and to sort pictures by double. And get ready to post pictures of the same double in the "More than one double" thread. invanddis.proboards.com/thread/6520/more-double
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 3, 2017 12:23:52 GMT -5
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 3, 2017 12:40:02 GMT -5
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Post by ramone on Jan 4, 2017 12:40:24 GMT -5
"Hi Ramone, no, they're obviously not the same person."
Yeah, it's easy to see. But, the point is - 1) that people will stand by their position that Paul has never been replaced. Obviously wrong. 2) and more importantly, this is the Beatle's camp that released this. Not a theorist's thought. THEY are saying THIS is Paul!
It's a little like saying there were no clues left - it's people's imagination. Yet, we can show someone the mirrored Sgt P drum. That didn't happen on it's own. I don't buy the official story of how SPLHCB name came about. No doubt, that was a result of how it could be worked out to get the 'he die' to appear. In other words, the clue was the foundational thing - the other sprang from that. In Russian the drum says orchestra I think. I doubt if that mirrors to 'he die' in Russian.
But, in English the specific design works for one of the main clues.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2017 17:25:44 GMT -5
It's a little like saying there were no clues left - it's people's imagination. Yet, we can show someone the mirrored Sgt P drum. That didn't happen on it's own. I don't buy the official story of how SPLHCB name came about. No doubt, that was a result of how it could be worked out to get the 'he die' to appear. In other words, the clue was the foundational thing - the other sprang from that. In Russian the drum says orchestra I think. I doubt if that mirrors to 'he die' in Russian. But, in English the specific design works for one of the main clues.
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Post by ramone on Jan 4, 2017 18:26:03 GMT -5
I'm surprised MD&C isn't in there somewhere.
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Post by applepie on Jan 4, 2017 19:42:23 GMT -5
I'm surprised MD&C isn't in there somewhere. My eyes roughly-approximate the image above as— "I MDC I DIE." Very downright chilling— if you are to consider cautiously who "MDC" might be referring to...
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 5, 2017 14:28:13 GMT -5
Aaargh, this thread has been hijacked. To include your concerns in it, let's say that the young (and old) Paul McCartney is a public figure that has been created by the combination of many different people who played his part. So they were all Paul, even if they were all Faul. There were certainly dozens of guys who got in and out of buildings and cars disguised as the Beatles in the different cities where the Beatles did shows. And there were the more permanent doubles who did photo ops, interviews, movies and shows. Unique pictures showing Sir Paul plays no string instruments at this point. His fingers are white. John's fingers are damaged and bent. Paul had a lot of keratosis on his fingers making them look brown. Some were musicians and some were not. So you could find hundreds of comparisons of Paul before 1967 with Faul after 1967 where they are indeed not the same person. But compare the Pauls of all these websites and forums and they are not the same person either. Very few have the real James "Paul" or "James Paul". The pictures of Paul I have posted in this thread are not of the same person and not of the real James "Paul" either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 15:35:31 GMT -5
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 5, 2017 15:58:44 GMT -5
If you wanna find the real James "Paul" (and the real Beatles), you have to look at pictures from 1957 to 1963. And if you wanna know what happened to the real James "Paul", whether he died or not, it would be great if you could read the posts of someone who was there and knows everything that happened, someone who had a part in the making of the Sgt Pepper cover. And that is the mysterious Apollo C Vermouth or Neil Aspinall who pretty much wrote everything that happened behind the scenes. And it fits with the lyrics. I will quote what he wrote, especially about Paul's "death" soon, maybe in a new thread. Or if someone wants to do it, go ahead. willemaus.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/apollo-c-vermouth/
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Post by applepie on Jan 5, 2017 16:38:25 GMT -5
If you wanna find the real James "Paul" (and the real Beatles), you have to look at pictures from 1957 to 1963. And if you wanna know what happened to the real James "Paul", whether he died or not, it would be great if you could read the posts of someone who was there and knows everything that happened, someone who had a part in the making of the Sgt Pepper cover. And that is the mysterious Apollo C Vermouth or Neil Aspinall who pretty much wrote everything that happened behind the scenes. And it fits with the lyrics. I will quote what he wrote, especially about Paul's "death" soon, maybe in a new thread. Or if someone wants to do it, go ahead. willemaus.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/apollo-c-vermouth/The Beatles have always been The Beatles; with a little assistance from their friends— that is. But in the end— excluding their helpers and all; there had always been a John, Paul, George & Ringo. No one in The Beatles was deceased circa 1966, although the "death"-clues were interjected in their songs for quite a different-reason— but forget about Paul being "dead." This isn't about Paul any longer. He might've suffered from an automobile-accident for all I know— which would have further left him wanting to leave the group; but it's highly-unlikely— or else; we'd be able to know about it. I think Paul wanted to leave the group— for the length of time that he did— because; he felt impending pressure; and wasn't able to cope with responsibilities of being a Beatle; and therefore wished to restrain from the limelight (or the "public-EYE."). He was still very much involved with the Sgt. Pepper's album— and the "myth."
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 6, 2017 18:15:52 GMT -5
The Beatles have always been The Beatles; with a little assistance from their friends— that is. But in the end— excluding their helpers and all; there had always been a John, Paul, George & Ringo. No one in The Beatles was deceased circa 1966, although the "death"-clues were interjected in their songs for quite a different-reason— but forget about Paul being "dead." This isn't about Paul any longer. He might've suffered from an automobile-accident for all I know— which would have further left him wanting to leave the group; but it's highly-unlikely— or else; we'd be able to know about it. I think Paul wanted to leave the group— for the length of time that he did— because; he felt impending pressure; and wasn't able to cope with responsibilities of being a Beatle; and therefore wished to restrain from the limelight (or the "public-EYE."). He was still very much involved with the Sgt. Pepper's album— and the "myth." Hi Applepie, there may very well be some truth in what you wrote. Apollo C Vermouth wrote: 'I don’t mind being “disturbed.” Many feel I’ve been disturbed for quite some time. I know this has been mentioned several times before, but it does come close to home. Remember that show on the telly, “Bewitched”? The original actor playing Darrin passed away. They quickly replaced him with another actor, to keep the show intact. Now, the original Darrin needn’t have died. Maybe, he just said “fook it” and headed for greener pastures. Went on holiday, so to speak. But, to keep the original premise in place, somebody had to assume the role. Now imagine, if you will, that scenario in context to this “mystery.” Only in this case, the original Darrin came back to the show, after his fancy of leaving proved to be not quite in his best interest. By then, the show was on the “outs”, and the cast grew tired of each other, thus putting an end to the show. Now, each blamed the other for the demise, for whatever reason they could muster, and went their seperate ways. It’s kinda like that. Only different. I told ya I was disturbed. Apollo———' ------------------------------------ ' Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I’m sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You’ll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer’s clothes. Apollo C. Vermouth' willemaus.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/apollo-c-vermouth/
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Post by ramone on Jan 6, 2017 18:44:10 GMT -5
It's a little like saying there were no clues left - it's people's imagination. Yet, we can show someone the mirrored Sgt P drum. That didn't happen on it's own. I don't buy the official story of how SPLHCB name came about. No doubt, that was a result of how it could be worked out to get the 'he die' to appear. In other words, the clue was the foundational thing - the other sprang from that. In Russian the drum says orchestra I think. I doubt if that mirrors to 'he die' in Russian. But, in English the specific design works for one of the main clues.
karaoke lol ah 123, 123...
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Post by ramone on Jan 6, 2017 18:45:17 GMT -5
If you wanna find the real James "Paul" (and the real Beatles), you have to look at pictures from 1957 to 1963. And if you wanna know what happened to the real James "Paul", whether he died or not, it would be great if you could read the posts of someone who was there and knows everything that happened, someone who had a part in the making of the Sgt Pepper cover. And that is the mysterious Apollo C Vermouth or Neil Aspinall who pretty much wrote everything that happened behind the scenes. And it fits with the lyrics. I will quote what he wrote, especially about Paul's "death" soon, maybe in a new thread. Or if someone wants to do it, go ahead. willemaus.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/apollo-c-vermouth/Thanks for the link. Good for quick reference for the ACV stuff.
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 7, 2017 18:49:45 GMT -5
Based on certain lyrics (that I will post soon) and this phrase by Apollo:
"Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun." , it seems like:
Paul left in 64, before the Shakespeare sketch (mentioned at the top of this page) in which a double of Paul said: " Now am I dead, now am I fled", meaning that Paul was considered to be dead because he had fled.
A little later, the three others fled as well and were the band on the run. They were symbolically butchered and had their heads cut off.
So the Beatles were dead and there was this new Sergent Pepper band.
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 9, 2017 18:35:23 GMT -5
As for the songs that could be about Paul having left, there is of course, "I'll Follow the Sun" that Apollo mentioned: I'll follow the sun: 'One day you'll look to see I've gone For tomorrow may rain, so I'll follow the sun Some day you'll know I was the one But tomorrow may rain, so I'll follow the sun And now the time has come And so my love I must go And though I lose a friend In the end you will know, oooh One day you'll find that I have gone But tomorrow may rain, so I'll follow the sun' www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/beatles/illfollowthesun.htmlAlso I read a post on a message board (that I have quoted in another post below) saying that the song "Go Now" by Denny Laine and the Moody Blues (that he sang in Wings shows) had been recorded because of Paul's leaving: "Go now": 'We've already said Goodbye. Since you've got to go Oh you had better go now. Go now. Go now. Go now Before you see me cry. I don't want you to tell me Just what you intend to do now.' www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/moodyblues/gonow.htmlEven "Yesterday" says: 'Why she had to go, I don't know, she wouldn't say. I said something wrong, now I long for yesterday.' www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/beatles/yesterday.html
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 9, 2017 18:40:59 GMT -5
Paul would have left some time before the Shakespeare sketch on April 29th, 1964. The album "A Hard Day's Night" was still being recorded in April 64. There are a few songs on it (and more on the following album "Beatles for Sale") that talk about breakups from the perspectives of the one who left and of the one who was left. From A Hard day's Night "I'm Happy Just To Dance With You" 'If somebody tries to take my place Let's pretend we just can't see his face' (that's what Apollo wrote about the replacement 'Bill', that he was more heard than seen) "Tell me why": 'Tell me why you cried And why you lied to me Tell me why you cried And why you lied to me Well, I gave you everything I had But you left me sitting on my own Did you have to treat me oh so bad? All I do is hang my head and moan "I'll cry instead": 'I've got every reason on earth to be mad Cos I've just lost the only girl I had And if I could get my way I'd get myself locked up today But I can't so I'll cry instead' www.azlyrics.com/b/beatles.html
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 9, 2017 18:48:34 GMT -5
"Things we said today":
You say you will love me If I have to go You'll be thinking of me Somehow I will know Someday when I'm lonely Wishing you weren't so far away Then I will remember Things we said today'
"I'll be back"
'You know if you break my heart I'll go But I'll be back again Cos I told you once before goodbye But I came back again ... I wanna go but I hate to leave you, You know I hate to leave you , oh ho, oh ho, oh You, if you break my heart I'll go But I'll be back again
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Post by rabbitteeth on Jan 9, 2017 18:59:19 GMT -5
From "Beatles for Sale":
"No Reply"
'I nearly died, I nearly died Cause you walked hand in hand With another man in my place'
I'm a Loser":
' I'm a loser And I lost someone who's near to me'
"Baby's in Black":
' Tell me, oh what can I do? She thinks of him and so she dresses in black And though he'll never come back, she's dressed in black Oh dear, what can I do?'
"Kansas City":
' Ah, Kansas City Gonna get my baby back home Yeah, yeah I'm gonna Kansas city Gonna get my baby back home Yeah, yeah Well, it's a long, long, time Since my baby's been gone'
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