Yoko extorted? Threatened?

[TotalInformation]

The part about this blackmailer threatening murder-suicide doesn't make sense. But it's supposedly recorded.

WHAT wd he have been blackmailing abuot?

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Ono's Driver Held on Extortion Suspicion

By TOM HAYS
The Associated Press
Wednesday, December 13, 2006; 11:21 PM

NEW YORK -- A chauffeur for Yoko Ono was arrested Wednesday for trying to extort $2 million from her by threatening to circulate embarrassing photos of her, and he also spoke of killing her and son Sean Lennon, police said.

Koral Karsan was arrested after Ono reported the plot, New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said. Charges were pending.

Karsan, while being led into a police station, denied trying to extort Ono.

"No," he said. "No way."

The security staff for Ono, the widow of John Lennon, told detectives that Karsan, who lives in Amityville, wrote in a rambling note to her that he had secretly photographed her and made audiotapes of her in private moments. Karsan warned he would make the material public if she didn't pay him, police said.

Ono spokesman Eliot Mintz said Karsan had worked for Lennon's widow for at least six years, driving her on an almost daily basis when she was in New York.

"She is one woman who has been through enough," Mintz said. "For an employee _ especially a trusted employee who drove her _ to attempt a shakedown has left her just absolutely shocked."

On Dec. 8, the 26th anniversary of Lennon's killing, Karsan dropped off the note and a photo of Ono in nightclothes at the Dakota apartment building, where the former Beatle once lived with her and where she still resides, police said.

Karsan, 50, talked about killing her, her son and himself during a later conversation with one of her associates, which was recorded by investigators, police said.

The audiotapes of Ono were apparently recorded while she was speaking on a phone in the car with Karsan at the wheel, Mintz said.

"You're reminded that this takes place around that time of the anniversary, when she is in a particularly vulnerable position," Mintz said. "It just adds insult to injury. This one's really cold."

[beatlies]

A Photo of Yoko in nightclothes does not make for adequate extortion material. This story is fishy. What is in these alleged "audiotapes"? Reminiscences with MI6 Faul and Charlie Brill?

[Doc]

beatlies said:

A Photo of Yoko in nightclothes does not make for adequate extortion material. This story is fishy. What is in these alleged "audiotapes"? Reminiscences with MI6 Faul and Charlie Brill?

Agreed. The nightclothes thing is a little trivial, isn't it? I mean we've seen stars in fancy photo layouts for years in what looks like night clothes. What is so scandalous about being seen in a robe, or a nice satin pajama set; she was undoubtedly totally covered up. I doubt Yoko would appear to the chauffeur in a "Frederic of Hollywood's" see-thru teddy.....

Death threats are no joke. That is violent and psychotic behavior. Also criminal. Lock him up. Get him a shrink. Scary man.


The question I guess this raises; does he know anything about PWR/PID and was that part of his extortion ploy?

We may never know, but if it was, what a doofus. Well, either way, what a doofus.

I doubt that this relates to the Beatle Paul topic because what's Yoko got to do with that? He wouldn't be blackmailing her and threatening her kids on over an issue connected with McCartney; that makes no sense. Even if had her on crystal clear digital cassettes saying, "Oh, yes, and Paul was a replacement" , or, "Paul died" what is that?

She can say it was context., i.e., Yes, I said Paul was a replacement for Janet jackson for the half-time games; yes, I said Paul died, died laughing, when John said a funny thing once a long time go..."

Context is everything, and if you have HALF a conversation it means nothing not knowing the other half.

And pictures of Yoko in a bathrobe? Jeez she was butt naked on an album cover! Hello! Who cares?

There must be something else, maybe she had a double-chin in one picture, or her hair was uncombed, or maybe some vain cosmetic thing like that but really Yoko could survive that. Trifles. What a nincompoop.

Here this woman has no doubt paid him top New York rates to simply drive her thru NY for these years, and he thanks her for the good paying employment with this outrage? He took her money in trust and now he resorts to cheap betrayal to try to snag $2M out of her?
Well, for God's sake don't hire him back unless he promises to behave! (I am facetious in that, but I think there would be a certain shame and punishment returning to serve her, in that only if he could be trusted to not go nutso on her again. I 'spose he probably would go nutso again. And how unpleasant to have to see him it would be for the family....) Well, he is an unsavory type of man to say the least.

Hw does Yoko respond? Well, she could take the high road and let the authorities have due process while remaining mute to the media. Or......

She should do a photo layout for Cosmo in gorgeous Mandarin red satin pajamas and a lavishly full midnight blue Yves St.-Laurent bathrobe in the back of a leather upholstered limo, while talking on a cellphone. Rich women all over America would then imitate this; this would effectively end this type of blackmail.

You got pictures of Yoko in her pj's on a cellphone? Send 'em out, b*tch. Whoop-de-do.

This is a greedy little man making crazy threats. And that's just not helpful for anything.

[beatlies]

..... unless she has an "I Shot John Lennon" tattoo. That could be somewhat scandalous.

[Doc]

beatlies said:

..... unless she has an "I Shot John Lennon" tattoo. That could be somewhat scandalous.

Oh.








Well now that's something else entirely.

[lili]

Beatlies posted

..... unless she has an "I Shot John Lennon" tattoo. That could be somewhat scandalous.

Maybe not a tattoo exactly.

The security staff for Ono, the widow of John Lennon, told detectives that Karsan, who lives in Amityville, wrote in a rambling note to her that he had secretly photographed her and made audiotapes of her in private moments. Karsan warned he would make the material public if she didn't pay him, police said.

Maybe she talks to herself sometimes. Maybe she talks to John sometimes. Maybe he's audiotaped her apologizing to John for her part in his murder. [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Dunno2[1].gif"]

[Doc]

lili said:

Beatlies posted

..... unless she has an "I Shot John Lennon" tattoo. That could be somewhat scandalous.

Maybe not a tattoo exactly.

The security staff for Ono, the widow of John Lennon, told detectives that Karsan, who lives in Amityville, wrote in a rambling note to her that he had secretly photographed her and made audiotapes of her in private moments. Karsan warned he would make the material public if she didn't pay him, police said.

Maybe she talks to herself sometimes. Maybe she talks to John sometimes. Maybe he's audiotaped her apologizing to John for her part in his murder. [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Dunno2[1].gif"]

Well, look, if that is the case, then isn't he also guilty, potentially, of withholding evidence and maybe obstruction, on top of extortion, blackmail, murderous threats, and malicious
intent, etc? Or is he being framed? Why? It sounds like a publicity stunt gone haywire. But again, why?

Thing is, then, he obtained whatever he thinks he has illegally, best bet is, in which case would probably render it inadmissible as evidence regarding her. I don't know. If it constituted a de factoconfession after the fact, maybe that's one facet that would make it legally tenable.

But, hey, this is talking out of school. We don't know what he had.

I for one am not inclined to think Yoko was involved. I still think Chapman lost his last marble
and did it alone.

[TotalInformation]

Death threats are no joke. That is violent and psychotic behavior. Also criminal. Lock him up. Get him a shrink. Scary man.

And how do you know this allegation is true, and not something cooked up by Yoko & NYPD? Shouldn't there maybe be a trial first?

[beatlies]

Yasuda fascist war criminal banking family of Imperial Japan billionairess COINTELPRO agent Yoko Ono jams with Charlie Brill, Phil Ackrill and Tara Browne in an outtake from "Let It Be" ---hadn't seen this before. Faul enthusiastically backs Yoko Yasuda Ono up with amp feedback axe:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqCpvzXGTE

[Doc]

totalinformation said:

Death threats are no joke. That is violent and psychotic behavior. Also criminal. Lock him up. Get him a shrink. Scary man.

And how do you know this allegation is true, and not something cooked up by Yoko & NYPD? Shouldn't there maybe be a trial first?

(Those Alleged) death threats are no joke. That is (alleged) violent and psychotic behavior. Also(allegedly) criminal. If found guilty, lock him up, get him a shrink. (Allegedly) a Scary man.[/i]

Hey, I have been summoned for jury duty in a number of weeks. No kidding. Oh dear.

[fourthousandholes]

www.nypost.com/seven/12152006/news/regionalnews/yokos_koko_nuts_over_love_fantasy_regionalnews_philip_messing_and_jennifer_fermino.htm

YOKO'S KOKO NUTS OVER LOVE FANTASY
By PHILIP MESSING and JENNIFER FERMINO

December 15, 2006 -- The creepy chauffeur accused of blackmailing Yoko Ono for $2 million led his own double fantasy - claiming they made sweet music together as the Beatle widow's lover, sources told The Post yesterday.

Koral "Koko" Karsan, 50, cornered Ono in the kitchen of her apartment at The Dakota last Friday and read his demands in a bizarre, typed letter, according to a source close to the probe.

"I've been your confidant, your bodyguard and your lover," Karsan read out.

A stunned and furious Ono couldn't believe her ears and told Karsan to get back - to reality.

"My lover? You're my chauffeur!" she snapped.

The $2 million demand, made on the 26th anniversary of her husband John Lennon's murder, so shook Ono, she threw her pocketbook at the wall, the source said - allegedly prompting a dark threat from Karsan.

"I'll see you in court or I'll see you in hell! [/b]" Karsan allegedly said. "It could go either way. I don't care."

Ono was so angry, she grabbed one of Karsan's two typed pages and wrestled a folder away from him before he hastily fled.

Karsan's folder included a surreptitious picture of Ono in a revealing nightgown, copies of all her e-mails sent this year, and the business cards of several paparazzi, the source said.

The self-described former Turkish military intelligence officer also left behind an audiotape of himself asking Ono leading questions in hopes of getting her to utter embarrassing answer, a source said.

Karsan can allegedly be heard asking Ono to comment on the movie "Brokeback Mountain" and to speculate on the sex life of her son, Sean Lennon.

Cops are also trying to link Karsan to a disturbing e-mail that Ono received from an unknown sender one day before her confrontation with the driver, a source said.

The message warned Ono to "watch out for the gray-haired guy. He's been with you for a long time," a source said.

Karsan, a 10-year employee of Ono's, has thick, gray hair.

The new details emerged yesterday as Karsan was arraigned on charges of attempted grand larceny and saw his bail set at $250,000 cash or $500,000 secured bond.

Prosecutors said police recovered both pages of Karsan's demand letter, in which he allegedly threatened to ruin Ono's reputation from a world away.

"I will not only write about these recordings, but will distribute them to European broadcast stations," Karsan wrote in the letter, according to Assistant District Attorney Maureen O'Connor said.

"Be advised I am moving back to Turkey permanently and will publish my book in Turkey and will distribute the prints throughout the Internet from Iran, where I have already secured e-commerce capability."

Neighbors said Karsan had had a "for sale" sign in front of his Amityville, L.I., home in recent months.

Ono could not be reached for comment yesterday. She spent most of the day inside The Dakota, on West 72nd Street, but ducked out for a two-hour visit to the Manhattan District Attorney's Office on Centre Street.

Defense lawyer Patrick Brosnahan said cops and prosecutors have been too eager to completely buy Ono's side of the story.

"The people [prosecutors] have chosen to take her position at full face value," he said.

"We're going to vigorously dispute these charges."

Karsan stood quietly in court and didn't show any emotion.

On Wednesday night, a handcuffed Karsan told reporters outside the 20th Precinct station house that Ono, 73, made up the charges against him to cover her own tracks - and claimed she had sexually harassed him.

Brosnahan downplayed the allegations yesterday. "I don't think that's an intelligent discourse," he said.

Karsan's neighbors and friends on Long Island still couldn't believe their pal could have blackmailed Ono.

Kaheem Cooks, who works at South Beach Car Wash in Amityville, said Karsan was a regular customer and only spoke well of Ono.

"He would come here all the time. He used to keep the Bentley [Ono's car] here," Cooks said.

"He's a nice guy. She [Ono] was a nice person. I can't believe this. He'd bring her car here all the time. Sometimes, we'd wash it, and sometimes we'd detail it. But I never saw a camera in there."

Police sources have said they've found evidence that Karsan rigged two cars - used to chauffeur Ono - with secret recording equipment.

The suspect's wife, Fatma Nazan Karsan, and her adult son declined comment yesterday.

Brosnahan said, "My client would certainly like to be somewhere other than jail."

Additional reporting by Kieran Crowley, Selim Algar, Dan Kadison and David K. Li

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[fourthousandholes]

www.nypost.com/seven/12162006/news/regionalnews/drivers_joy_of_killing_regionalnews_philip_messing_and_dareh_gregorian.htm

DRIVER'S 'JOY' OF KILLING
By PHILIP MESSING and DAREH GREGORIAN

December 16, 2006 -- The creepy chauffeur charged with concocting a deadly $2 million extortion plot against Yoko Ono allegedly boasted that he'd killed a man - and "enjoyed it."

Koral "Koko" Karsan, 50, made the boast numerous times to colleagues who worked for the 73-year-old widow, a knowledgeable source told The Post. "I killed someone once," the source quoted him as saying.

Karsan said the killing happened while he was serving as a Turkish police officer - or military officer. "He claimed to have been both at various times," the source said.

The boast is particularly chilling because Karsan, who lives in Amityville, L.I., with his wife and college-graduate son, allegedly told Ono that he had people on standby waiting to kill her.

The source said it was unclear whether there was any truth to his bravado or alleged law-enforcement background. The source suggested that the dapper driver might have been trying to make himself sound like a tough guy who was well qualified to be driving around a celebrity of Ono's stature.

Investigators are now checking the Turkish native's immigration status to see if he's in the country legally.

The source said that Ono and Karsan met in the mid-1990s when he was working for a private limo service and that he so impressed her that she lured him away to work solely for her in 1996.

Their relationship took a turn for the weird last Friday, the 26th anniversary of the murder of Ono's husband ,John Lennon. That's when investigators say Karsan handed Ono a two-page letter in which he threatened to make public secretly snapped pictures and recorded audiotapes unless she paid him $2 million.

Sources said that Ono was enraged by the letter and that when she yelled at Karsan, his eerie reply was "I'll see you in court, or I'll see you in hell!"

He was arrested on Wednesday and held on $250,000 bail, which he raised yesterday. His lawyer, Robert Gottlieb, dropped off two cashier's checks with the Manhattan District Attorney's Office.

Jennifer Kushner, a spokeswoman for the DA's office, said it was reviewing the bail package.

Karsan has denied the extortion charges and claimed Ono made up the allegations because he was planning to sue her for sexual harassment, a charge Ono denies.

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[TotalInformation]

could be an interesting book

[JoJo]

I'm reminded of the Goldman and Fred Seaman books. Regardless of how one may feel about the tabloid nature of these writings, one thing came through clearly: Yoko felt she had a magical ability to detect the quality of those she decided to hire, while the opposite was true.. she was clueless. Best to have a thorough investigation done, not ask your tarot card reader what he thinks. (who himself is ripping you off)

[fourthousandholes]

Ahem.

[JoJo]

fourthousandholes said:

Ahem.

Well, I was referring to her situation specifically, not all tarot card readers in general.. (if you read the books, you'll know what I mean)

[fourthousandholes]

Yes, I am aware of her approach.
And I've almost never charged on the occassions that I've read. ;D

[JoJo]

fourthousandholes said:

Yes, I am aware of her approach.
And I've almost never charged on the occassions that I've read. ;D

There was a guy she used that if you ask me...knew all the right key words, and made his living off of well heeled types who he convinced couldn't make their next move without a consultation. (fostered a dependancy)

Having said that, I've found myself at the other side of a table with the cards spread out, and found myself intrigued by the way it all fit together.. Ultimately we all determine the future outcome; if you tell me I'm going to have ten kids and I'm firmly decided that I'll have none then... that's how it's gonna be.

Hmmm...I'll pick out the king of cups.. ;D

[beatlies]

Yoko's team said that the driver made "threats" to Yoko and Sean by "speculating on Sean's sex life and talking about the film "Brokeback Mountain" " ---Implying that Sean is gay? This was a paragraph in the NY Daily News when the story first appeared.

Several days ago a paper quoted the defense attorneys for the driver as saying (to the effect that) Yoko had some very dark secrets.

The whole Faul-Fohn-"I shot John Lennon" backmasking track on The Double's Fantasy KKK,Yoko as COINTELPRO agent etc. operation is what lurks behind all of this. Just as the Fia Pharrow imposter covert operation is what lurks behind the Woody Allen and "Mia Farrow" story.

[Doc]

beatlies said:

Yoko's team said that the driver made "threats" to Yoko and Sean by "speculating on Sean's sex life and talking about the film "Brokeback Mountain" " ---Implying that Sean is gay? This was a paragraph in the NY Daily News when the story first appeared.

Several days ago a paper quoted the defense attorneys for the driver as saying (to the effect that) Yoko had some very dark secrets.

The whole Faul-Fohn-"I shot John Lennon" backmasking track on The Double's Fantasy KKK,Yoko as COINTELPRO agent etc. operation is what lurks behind all of this. Just as the Fia Pharrow imposter covert operation is what lurks behind the Woody Allen and "Mia Farrow" story.

I just think that Yoko or her kids or really any celebrity: their sex life or love life is none of our business and it's one thing if they flaunt it or share it, but really, what is personal and kept
private in that regard should be respected by the media and not sold in the newspapers.

But it sells wretched little 'yellow journalism' rags doesn't it. I don't care if somebody keeps company with a mule. [Hopefully not an underage mule.] It's none of our business.

[lili]

With all due respect, Doc, I have to agree with beatlies to a certain degree.
Considering her possible involvement in John's death, I would be very interested in Yoko's " very dark secrets ".

[Doc]

Well, now, agreed, if there were any sort of possibility of criminal intent or criminal action on her part. I don't personally believe that there was. But murder or conspiracy to commit murder are
big time felonies and in such a case it would be right to express grave concern.

[lili]

Who knows. Maybe he'll sell his story to the right party & we'll find out the real deal. [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Dunno2[1].gif"]

[TotalInformation]

and if you read pang & seaman you see how yoko used tarot bs to manipulate Lennon

[lili]

Big surprise.
That woman took John for the ride of his life, with a major crash bang at the end !