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Post by Mellow Yellow on Feb 15, 2007 17:46:59 GMT -5
I would like to see some interviews with Denny on Bill's use of the occult. It is kind of scary that such normal looking folks were/are into these things......
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Post by JoJo on Feb 15, 2007 18:15:38 GMT -5
I should mention that the Beatles Monthly and MMT booklet shots are two different stills. Very similar, and no doubt taken but a second or two apart, but they are different. Intriguing JGD, and a distinct possibility..
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Post by fourthousandholes on Feb 15, 2007 19:05:44 GMT -5
JoJo, can you do the Ian Iachimoe thing with your software?
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Post by fourthousandholes on Feb 15, 2007 19:44:36 GMT -5
I would like to see some interviews with Denny on Bill's use of the occult. It is kind of scary that such normal looking folks were/are into these things...... So only freaky-looking folks are "into" the occult? I'll grant that Aleister Crowley was a freak, but I dare say many "normal appearing" people have had an interest in various aspects of what is considered "occult". Some of them may even have read some of Aleister Crowley's writings! That doesn't make them satanists. The definition of "occult" is hidden, not "diabolical". I repeat: the definition of "occult" is "hidden". I think Bill has been pretty up front with his lyrics in matters pertaining to his desire for love and light, but these seem to be ignored by those seeking to demonize him. I doubt that he engages in child sacrifice, naked orgies in the moonlight, murder, or vampirism. Pretending to be Paul McCartney may be sinful, but there may be a reason for doing it. Whatever Denny may have to say about Bill's "occult" activity, those who would hope to find a smoking gun of satanism are not likely to get much satisfaction, imo.
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Feb 15, 2007 22:46:20 GMT -5
So only freaky-looking folks are "into" the occult? Yup.
I'll grant that Aleister Crowley was a freak, but I dare say many "normal appearing" people have had an interest in various aspects of what is considered "occult". Lies......
That doesn't make them satanists. That's what you think.
The definition of "occult" is hidden, not "diabolical". I repeat: the definition of "occult" is "hidden". My hearing is fine
Whatever Denny may have to say about Bill's "occult" activity, those who would hope to find a smoking gun of satanism are not likely to get much satisfaction, imo. I never even used the word satanism.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Feb 16, 2007 10:32:30 GMT -5
You didn't have to. I rest my case. It's funny though. As a Pisces born on (power #) the eleventh, it's altogether probable that you'll have plenty of opportunity to encounter "the occult". Instant Karma's gonna get you Gonna knock you right on the head You better get yourself together.... Instant Karma's gonna get you; Gonna knock you off your feet! Better recognize your brother Is everyone you meet. Don't say I didn't tell you.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 16, 2007 22:24:23 GMT -5
JoJo, can you do the Ian Iachimoe thing with your software? I'm not sure how one pronouces "Ian Iachimoe". Well I have a good guess, and also an idea of how it would sound, perhaps I'll try reversing someone saying "Paul McCartney".
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Feb 16, 2007 23:21:43 GMT -5
You didn't have to. I rest my case. It's funny though. As a Pisces born on (power #) the eleventh, it's altogether probable that you'll have plenty of opportunity to encounter "the occult". Instant Karma's gonna get you Gonna knock you right on the head You better get yourself together.... Instant Karma's gonna get you; Gonna knock you off your feet! Better recognize your brother Is everyone you meet. Don't say I didn't tell you. Good, now I got something to look forward to. Interestingly enought 3/11 = the day Bill married Linda and a few other events of importance in Beatle history. But if you could share any more information about the date, I would be interested in hearing (I even tried calculating my own numerological number using that Cheiro guys method, I got 5)....... 4000, I think you have mistook me for being this kind of Ultra Conservative skeptic of the world, which isn't true. I do believe that there is "something" there, but I haven't acquired the knowledge to figure it out yet. I have seen the strange relations of certain religions to Venus, and occultic symbolism, and the strange occurances of the number 9 in Lennon's life. And not being one to dismiss everything to coincidence I DO believe there are strange things as such.... It's the ID gratifiers and the goat sacrificers I cannot stand. Gnosis = Secret, or hidden knowledge. Gnostic = One having the secret knowledge Agnostic = One not having the secret or hidden knowledge (if anyone out there wants to tell me the secret, feel free ;D) And JUST what is it with Venus anyway? Scientists even call it "earths evil twin"..... So many religions worship it or denounce it (Judaism denounces the morning star as lucifer, Jesus claims he IS the bright and morning star.... Buddha saw the morning star before he achieved enlightenment, etc, etc....)
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Post by JoJo on Feb 17, 2007 1:17:05 GMT -5
The much criticized as a crank Immanuel Velikovsky had an interesting take on this: WikiLong story, but essentially he is saying that myths and legends, of which the story of Venus is one, were the eyewitness accounts of those witnessing natural disasters; with Venus being a comet that made periodic visits before settling into its present orbit. Needless to say, this is not an account that most astro scientists find plausible, or for that matter other fields but.. the obsession with Venus by ancient cultures would possibly be explained..it was perhaps seen as something to be watched while in its cometary orbit.
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Feb 17, 2007 3:27:03 GMT -5
Well it is accepted by astronomers that "something" did enter our solar system and cause quite a ruckus. It knocked Uranus and gave it it's messed up axis. Astronomers also speculate that something hit the earth and that from the debris the moon was created.
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Post by il ras on Feb 20, 2007 18:20:13 GMT -5
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Post by fourthousandholes on Feb 21, 2007 20:38:06 GMT -5
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Post by fourthousandholes on Feb 25, 2007 14:59:57 GMT -5
31www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePHCuauoQ0sWhat's with the Apollo mission reversals at the end? And what is the Faul reversal? --------- This Nirvana "Smells Like Teen Spirit" reversal was linked to the video above. I find it interesting in that there are so many reversals in it. Usually reverse speech occurs at intervals from about 10 seconds to 2 minutes. If one takes this video at face value, every line is a reversal! www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YRChL4ENEw&NR
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Post by il ras on Mar 5, 2007 7:38:20 GMT -5
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Post by fourthousandholes on Mar 10, 2007 13:18:34 GMT -5
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Mar 10, 2007 19:10:34 GMT -5
I thought the latest one was kind of weak. There's more in Broadstreet to use as far as showing that Faul and Paul are different--for example, the piano photo... But if you're revealing who you think Faul really is, then you need more (IMO).
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Post by Mellow Yellow on Mar 10, 2007 22:09:37 GMT -5
What's this talk of you making a movie, I.M. Phoney?
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Post by beatlies on Apr 15, 2007 23:18:10 GMT -5
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Post by fourthousandholes on Apr 15, 2007 23:23:52 GMT -5
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Post by JoJo on Apr 18, 2007 20:44:57 GMT -5
I was gonna say imitation is the sincerest form... but no, I made this.. www.jojoplace.org/Shoebox/yesterdaybackandforth.mpgAlmost all the comments are quite negative, maybe that's why I never sent it to Youtube. (so I'm happy to let someone else take the heat) Still, 11,000 views and counting, and in little over a month, not bad.
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Post by fourthousandholes on Apr 18, 2007 22:11:22 GMT -5
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Post by beatlies on Apr 19, 2007 13:58:09 GMT -5
Reprinted here below is one example of a moronic youtube comment, one of the quite negative sort mentioned by JoJo, backfiring, in a sense, on itswriter. Dylan and Lennon do sound strikingly different from the pre-1967 incarnations. David Bowie does not. Dylan and Lennon were replaced, a la the different-voiceprint Paul/Faul switch. David Bowie was not.
billsurlatete (2 days ago) this is a load of shit. all sisngers sing in different tones. just look at bob dylan, david bowie, john lennon. all these comparable artists sound notibly different than they did 10years before in even the late 60s. (Reply)
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Post by JoJo on Apr 19, 2007 15:25:16 GMT -5
No, Ilras sent that one to me, but I did post it here some time ago.
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Post by beatlies on Apr 21, 2007 8:53:30 GMT -5
The "I've Been Giving It Paul Live Forever" backwards message on the Nameless song, toward the end of The Rotten Apple 22, was recorded during takes of the song "I Will": so it is significant that the message "Paul live forever" is congruent with the lyrics of the song "I Will" forwards, "Will I wait a lonely lifetime? If you want me to I will." www.youtube.com/watch?v=go4TJ-FJfho&mode=related&search=
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Post by il ras on May 16, 2007 8:19:45 GMT -5
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