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Post by Red Lion on Aug 3, 2023 21:48:53 GMT -5
Awesome! Thank you for the share!… What does he mean by manuscript?
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Post by ramone on Aug 4, 2023 10:19:53 GMT -5
"I will reveal that I was told by a UK musician from the 60s that JPM went "underground to write". He was still under contract to the Beatles so helped out in private. It was though William in public and on record. It's a crazy situation which no-one seems to have all the pieces of the jigsaw." (Caya)
"Ramone
Post '66? In a "silent partner" aspect...yes. In a "gone on holiday" kinda way...yes. In a "having a luverly time, wish you were here" scenario...yes. In a "can you take me back where I came from" hinted request...yes.
Apollo"
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Post by cayetana on Aug 7, 2023 10:51:11 GMT -5
Awesome! Thank you for the share!… What does he mean by manuscript? He means “Liam Steen”’s online book called “The Painful Truth About Paul McCartney”. I think there were 3 or 4 parts to it but all I could find was this: www.docdroid.net/yeTdwIY/the-painful-truth-about-paul-mccartney-part-1-pdf#page=2I’ve heard he uploaded more somewhere on Facebook (either his account or the PID group he set up). I’ll see if it surfaced elsewhere on the internet.
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Post by cayetana on Aug 7, 2023 11:25:55 GMT -5
"I will reveal that I was told by a UK musician from the 60s that JPM went "underground to write". He was still under contract to the Beatles so helped out in private. It was though William in public and on record. It's a crazy situation which no-one seems to have all the pieces of the jigsaw." (Caya) "Ramone Post '66? In a "silent partner" aspect...yes. In a "gone on holiday" kinda way...yes. In a "having a luverly time, wish you were here" scenario...yes. In a "can you take me back where I came from" hinted request...yes. Apollo" It’s interesting he says that because Liam Steen’s theory clearly states JPM died, but then again he might’ve just been told so, doesn’t automatically mean it was the actual truth. Or maybe he too “plays the game” where a % of what’s being said is what really happened and a % is sheer fantasy, who knows. I’ve asked someone who was in the same Facebook group with Kenny Milne (turns out it’s his actual name), the one “Liam Steen” had set up, about him and this person says (from the chats they had) KM is from Scotland, chats to “Liam Steen” (who KM says is William but the name is used by at least two other people from the industry one of whom was the main author of the online book with some input from the others) and believes JPM is alive. They say KM talked to someone on the internet a couple years ago who he was convinced was JPM because of all the things he knew. Neither he nor Liam is in the FB group now because it took a more conventional PID approach after some time and became a bit of a dead end but KM still comments on YouTube from time to time.
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 7, 2023 21:30:15 GMT -5
Thx cay…. I read the first two chapters, which was all I could find… It’s interesting… Kind of reminds me of a fleshed out version of the 60 if “document” with some things changed around… he probably has at least some of the story, correct… Funny that he mentions ACV is actually Neil… biggest difference is obviously that Liam says JPM died, while ACV was pretty adamant about JPM living on and that the rest of the band was not quite amused with his “holiday“…
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Post by cayetana on Aug 8, 2023 4:45:25 GMT -5
Thx cay…. I read the first two chapters, which was all I could find… It’s interesting… Kind of reminds me of a fleshed out version of the 60 if “document” with some things changed around… he probably has at least some of the story, correct… Funny that he mentions ACV is actually Neil… biggest difference is obviously that Liam says JPM died, while ACV was pretty adamant about JPM living on and that the rest of the band was not quite amused with his “holiday“… You’re welcome! 🙂 Yeah, I know, I had the same feeling it’s basically built around the same narrative, however when it comes to JPM being dead or alive it’s just… Shroedinger JPM really lol. I’ll try to ask this person from the FB group if they have any info on this, they clearly had some interesting time chatting to KM and to a lesser extent LM a few years ago but I understand some of it is confidential and also I don’t know this person all that well. I’ll see if I can find out more.
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Post by ramone on Aug 15, 2023 15:39:32 GMT -5
"I will reveal that I was told by a UK musician from the 60s that JPM went "underground to write". He was still under contract to the Beatles so helped out in private. It was though William in public and on record. It's a crazy situation which no-one seems to have all the pieces of the jigsaw." (Caya) "Ramone Post '66? In a "silent partner" aspect...yes. In a "gone on holiday" kinda way...yes. In a "having a luverly time, wish you were here" scenario...yes. In a "can you take me back where I came from" hinted request...yes. Apollo" "Paul wanted to retire from the limelight. The disastrous 1966 World tour was the end for him. He also had health issues. The replacement was meant to be temporary, and Paul was still contracted to write for the band. However, it continued after the success of Sgt Pepper. Paul wasn't convinced about the change of musical direction. This is why Lennon sang “so Sgt Pepper took you by surprise”. The replacement, William, as I've said, was actually a better musician than Paul. Paul was a better songwriter so it was a great partnership. There is clear differences between the two. William is taller, longer face, one has attached earlobes, the other doesn't. There is evidence throughout the years. Many deliberate clues from Beatles people. Both Paul and William were on the magical mystery tour bus! You can tell the difference. " So. let me get this straight. This person Kenny helps Liam get this info out. K thinks JPM is alive but he helps Liam who thinks JPM died. Why would someone do that exactly?
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 15, 2023 17:32:49 GMT -5
That is a great question Ramone!… In the first chapter of his manuscript, Liam states that he might be hypothesizing or ad libbing a bit…. Although it might be a bit odd that he would do such a thing with regard to whether Paul was alive or not… Just thinking out loud…
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Post by JoJo on Aug 15, 2023 22:15:02 GMT -5
Cayetana, thank you so much, this was quite interesting. After these many years I have settled on the JPM as a silent helper/ behind the scenes guy as ACV seemed to be telling us. Whether he is still with us, I dunno. One thing ACV told us one more than one occasion was that most of what we were told through official channels and other storytelling was 90 something percent BS. After these past few years, that official stuff is almost entirely made up is what I have concluded. (But that's just me, LOL)
I always thought it would be great if the real story of Paul/Beatles was told and accepted, what a red pill! Then watch all the other lies slowly crumble.
My late friend Jan AKA Valis here on the forum once said that the Paul Was Replaced story was like the spoonful of sugar to "get the medicine down" that the world was not as we believed. (Nothing Is Real)
Hopefully more of this story shows up somewhere, thanks again!
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Liam Steen
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Post by cayetana on Aug 16, 2023 14:32:19 GMT -5
"I will reveal that I was told by a UK musician from the 60s that JPM went "underground to write". He was still under contract to the Beatles so helped out in private. It was though William in public and on record. It's a crazy situation which no-one seems to have all the pieces of the jigsaw." (Caya) "Ramone Post '66? In a "silent partner" aspect...yes. In a "gone on holiday" kinda way...yes. In a "having a luverly time, wish you were here" scenario...yes. In a "can you take me back where I came from" hinted request...yes. Apollo" "Paul wanted to retire from the limelight. The disastrous 1966 World tour was the end for him. He also had health issues. The replacement was meant to be temporary, and Paul was still contracted to write for the band. However, it continued after the success of Sgt Pepper. Paul wasn't convinced about the change of musical direction. This is why Lennon sang “so Sgt Pepper took you by surprise”. The replacement, William, as I've said, was actually a better musician than Paul. Paul was a better songwriter so it was a great partnership. There is clear differences between the two. William is taller, longer face, one has attached earlobes, the other doesn't. There is evidence throughout the years. Many deliberate clues from Beatles people. Both Paul and William were on the magical mystery tour bus! You can tell the difference. " So. let me get this straight. This person Kenny helps Liam get this info out. K thinks JPM is alive but he helps Liam who thinks JPM died. Why would someone do that exactly? No clue whatsoever. These people could be insiders or they could be total fakes, so I’d tread carefully whenever info from such sources is concerned. This person I mentioned in the comments above has said they chatted to these people for sometime and are still none the wiser. I hope they finally make up their mind and share some of what they talked about, not that there’re any concrete answers but I sense there still might be some interesting stuff there. As I understand it, KM was an independent researcher, nothing to do with the industry itself, and he just happened to run into LS on one of the youtube channels and helped him with some technical details, so he’s not a co-author or anything. He does seem to know a lot though, even judging from his YouTube and Quora comments (or at least he thinks he knows some of this stuff). With respect to “death”, my only explanation is that they mean it figuratively, as in “dead to the industry”. My online friend hinted something indeed happened to JPM on October 5 (the date LS gives in his book) but he didn’t die. Sounds plausible but who knows for sure? Or maybe it’s again what Apollo used to say, “a % of what is told is pure fantasy”.
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Post by cayetana on Aug 16, 2023 14:55:05 GMT -5
Cayetana, thank you so much, this was quite interesting. After these many years I have settled on the JPM as a silent helper/ behind the scenes guy as ACV seemed to be telling us. Whether he is still with us, I dunno. One thing ACV told us one more than one occasion was that most of what we were told through official channels and other storytelling was 90 something percent BS. After these past few years, that official stuff is almost entirely made up is what I have concluded. (But that's just me, LOL) I always thought it would be great if the real story of Paul/Beatles was told and accepted, what a red pill! Then watch all the other lies slowly crumble. My late friend Jan AKA Valis here on the forum once said that the Paul Was Replaced story was like the spoonful of sugar to "get the medicine down" that the world was not as we believed. (Nothing Is Real) Hopefully more of this story shows up somewhere, thanks again! You’re most welcome! 🙂 This site is such an amazing place to talk about different theories and different info, unlike most FB groups which from what I hear mostly follow this or that narrative like gospel. I totally agree with what you’ve said above, and I’d love to witness the whole Paul story unfurl, I hope we will one day. >>>the Paul Was Replaced story was like the spoonful of sugar to "get the medicine down" that the world was not as we believed. (Nothing Is Real)>>> What an amazing thing to say! And it rings true, very much so. At least there’s a feel that this whole thing goes deeper than Paul’s story (however important it may be). I guess that’s why I never really bought PID in the literal sense. I might have “politely agreed” with people when they brought this up but I don’t think I believed it deep down. I’d like to find out more about what’s going on with these people (LS and KM) since they seem to be the only ones who keep talking about it now and something about the way they talk reminds me of Apollo (maybe it’s just me though. I was very impressed by Apollo messages I’d found on this forum). I keep hoping there’s info from those chats my friend can share. I don’t know if it’s anything useful but at least it’s something.
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Post by cayetana on Aug 16, 2023 18:45:33 GMT -5
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 16, 2023 22:05:54 GMT -5
With regard to part three…
RedLion
Understand, depending on your point of entry, you may not like what you find.
Clues, references, lyrics, photos, all prior to Sgt.Pepper are moot.
Public awareness of PID rumours occurred late 1969. Only from working backwards did a story come to light.
In May of '69, Terry Knight released a 45 rpm titled "St Paul." It predates the rumours by several months. Oddest yet, it was owned by Maclen Music, John and Pauls private publishing company. It remains the only non-Lennon/McCartney song in the collection.
Terry Knight, hoping to to be signed by Apple Records, met with Macca just prior to this release.
Sour grapes?
Or, a spark to light the fire?
The lads always denied the rumours, or stated that the "clues" were all wrong, or "a load of OLD rubbish."
Yet, to present day, they have done little to let the mystery die. "Clues" continue to be given despite the loss of Lennon and Harrison.
So, choose your rabbit hole carefully.
There are two disinct points of entry.
Do not confuse the two.
Apollo
P.S.
William was indeed the honoured guest.
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Post by cayetana on Aug 19, 2023 12:57:09 GMT -5
With regard to part three… RedLion Understand, depending on your point of entry, you may not like what you find. Clues, references, lyrics, photos, all prior to Sgt.Pepper are moot. Public awareness of PID rumours occurred late 1969. Only from working backwards did a story come to light. In May of '69, Terry Knight released a 45 rpm titled "St Paul." It predates the rumours by several months. Oddest yet, it was owned by Maclen Music, John and Pauls private publishing company. It remains the only non-Lennon/McCartney song in the collection. Terry Knight, hoping to to be signed by Apple Records, met with Macca just prior to this release. Sour grapes? Or, a spark to light the fire? The lads always denied the rumours, or stated that the "clues" were all wrong, or "a load of OLD rubbish." Yet, to present day, they have done little to let the mystery die. "Clues" continue to be given despite the loss of Lennon and Harrison. So, choose your rabbit hole carefully. There are two disinct points of entry. Do not confuse the two. Apollo P.S. William was indeed the honoured guest. Interesting….
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Post by cayetana on Aug 19, 2023 13:10:22 GMT -5
Speaking of Apollo… Here’s what LS wrote in the FB group a few years ago (2019 I think) in response to a fellow member’s post or comment or question:
“I encourage everyone to think critically so it’s certainly good that you take it with a grain of salt. I respect what you’re saying but I must say I disagree. There is NO solid evidence regarding the truth about James Paul McCartney. That evidence is either sealed in secrecy or completely destroyed by now. We can all agree that JPM was replaced because that is evident, but apart from that we only have different kinds of speculation to rely on. I’m not looking to convince people. What I’m doing is presenting a book full of information. I do it to reveal certain things and clear my conscience. I offer an alternative storyline with another interpretation of the symbolism in the PID field. I see the same patterns as everybody else. I am not denying the pattern. I’m offering another background to it. If you find my narrative implausible, that is fine. Someone else may have a theory that you find more plausible and that’s where you will find your truth. One thing is for sure though; it’s all speculation. No solid evidence will be found regarding what happened. Just because certain symbolism is used, it doesn’t mean that the truth can be found in it. The alternative narrative I’m presenting isn’t something I’ve just made up. It’s something I’ve lived in for many years. If you don’t believe it, that is fine. Nothing happens and life goes on. My point is that words stand against words. There is no solid evidence. Nobody has any.“
It echoes what ACV had to say somehow, doesn’t it?
“ What do YOU see. There is a story there. As simple, or as complicated as YOU wish. All depends on which rabbit hole you decide to slide down. This WAS the concept of the album that many found to have no concept at all. If one was to see a catchy cover, and nothing else, that will be his lasting impression. If, on the other hand, one was to see a possible riddle to solve, he would venture to gain as much insight as possible to ferret an answer. Both see what is being shown, but differ in the conclusions. Nor, will either convince the other of what does or does not exist. Some see Paul, others "Faul." What a luverly conumdrum. If you seek a riddle, rest assured that one exists. If you are that "other" person, go home and put on the pot. Nothing gained, nothing lost.”
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Post by privyprincess on Aug 22, 2023 23:17:01 GMT -5
I like the fact that people who are tied to this 50+ year old mystery still to this day are being coy and mysterious about it all.
But at some point, don't you think they'd have become anxious to just speak the truth about it all?
At this point, I'm convinced that it's not just a game they are trying to play. The ones who are left literally cannot tell the truth. There has to be someone threatening them with keeping quiet.
But WHY? How all-encompassing and life-changing is this truth? Does it connect to even bigger truths we have yet to figure out?
I mean...I think we are at the point the world would be able to handle the truth. Boomers would still be Beatles fans, even if they were conned. At this point, they'd just say, "I knew it!"
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Post by cayetana on Aug 23, 2023 3:47:30 GMT -5
I like the fact that people who are tied to this 50+ year old mystery still to this day are being coy and mysterious about it all. But at some point, don't you think they'd have become anxious to just speak the truth about it all? At this point, I'm convinced that it's not just a game they are trying to play. The ones who are left literally cannot tell the truth. There has to be someone threatening them with keeping quiet. But WHY? How all-encompassing and life-changing is this truth? Does it connect to even bigger truths we have yet to figure out? I mean...I think we are at the point the world would be able to handle the truth. Boomers would still be Beatles fans, even if they were conned. At this point, they'd just say, "I knew it!" >>>But WHY? How all-encompassing and life-changing is this truth? Does it connect to even bigger truths we have yet to figure out?>>> A great question; I believe it does. I tentatively asked my online friend about it and the answer I got was “ The replacement of jpm runs deep” and “ The truth is much more than a replacement.” (It’s not their words but what they were told during those chats). No clue what that means but at least it confirms we’re on the right track when we accept it’s about something more than the switch.
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 23, 2023 22:18:02 GMT -5
RedLion 41 years ago, the history was preordained. As nature intended. Nobody was to step outside the dotted lines. The plan, to deny. Keeps things on a level playing ground. "Nope, never happened." But, what about this and that? "Sorry mate, never happened." Dig? The same went for those behind the curtain, as well. We cannot stop those that see beyond the illusion. Kinda falls in line with the game plan. I've stated that there are those things which I must keep close to me chest. If one was to discover these "things" without the help of those that remain silent, a greater truth is to be found. I have, with you, stepped outside and trampled the flowers in the dirt. Slowly, another story comes to light. This is YOUR story. The true story will never be told. It is to be discovered. And when you finally are at peace wth your discovery, expect none to "fess up" and authenticate. It is not in our plans. Apollo It’s definitely worth considering whether this was a nefarious replacement or not… Was JPM was a piece that was removed from the board, or did he just bow out. Quite a conundrum if no one will ever confirm…
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Post by cayetana on Aug 25, 2023 4:55:12 GMT -5
RedLion 41 years ago, the history was preordained. As nature intended. Nobody was to step outside the dotted lines. The plan, to deny. Keeps things on a level playing ground. "Nope, never happened." But, what about this and that? "Sorry mate, never happened." Dig? The same went for those behind the curtain, as well. We cannot stop those that see beyond the illusion. Kinda falls in line with the game plan. I've stated that there are those things which I must keep close to me chest. If one was to discover these "things" without the help of those that remain silent, a greater truth is to be found. I have, with you, stepped outside and trampled the flowers in the dirt. Slowly, another story comes to light. This is YOUR story. The true story will never be told. It is to be discovered. And when you finally are at peace wth your discovery, expect none to "fess up" and authenticate. It is not in our plans. Apollo It’s definitely worth considering whether this was a nefarious replacement or not… Was JPM was a piece that was removed from the board, or did he just bow out. Quite a conundrum if no one will ever confirm… Liam Steens words I quoted above seem to echo this, “ No solid evidence will be found regarding what happened. Just because certain symbolism is used, it doesn’t mean that the truth can be found in it.” I still think they imply the truth is there to see if you know how to interpret certain things. “As badly as everyone wants the “answer”, those that have found it walk away in disbelief. Seems the picture doesn’t quite fit the frame.” “ Many have actually hit the mark, but refused to accept the conclusions.” “ We cannot stop those that see beyond the illusion. Kinda falls in line with the game plan.” “ Slowly, another story comes to light. This is YOUR story. The true story will never be told. It is to be discovered. And when you finally are at peace wth your discovery, expect none to "fess up" and authenticate.” To me, it translates to something like, “You’ll know it when you finally see it (and you’ll have a hard time accepting it) even though there’ll be no one to confirm it”. My impression so far has been that indeed JPM wanted out whether because he was disillusioned with the industry or due to health problems or just because he wanted to write when and where he felt like it and so he went underground and became “dead” to the industry. I understand how it had to be hidden from the public at the time and how it would cause quite a sensation if it’s revealed now but still, as privyprincess said, why all this code of silence, even to this day? Like KM told my online friend, “ The replacement of jpm runs deep.The truth is much more than a replacement” and to focus on JPMs family members and he also compared learning about this mystery to being back at school and going through the degrees in freemasons. How do we go from a person wanting out of the limelight (granted, a very prominent person) to these things?
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 25, 2023 8:11:58 GMT -5
Money is the obvious answer… But who knows…
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Post by cayetana on Aug 25, 2023 9:30:12 GMT -5
Money is the obvious answer… But who knows… But why all the mystery? How’s it different from, say, the story of Jimi Hendrix who allegedly was killed for money? Jimi was and still is an iconic figure in his own right but no one talks in riddles about him or asks us to look for answers on an album cover (not trying to be captain obvious here, I know these questions have been asked for ages, just thinking aloud). I can’t help thinking there’s a whole different dimension to it when I revisit Apollo’s post such as these: “I say, the truth is hidden in plain sight. Every piece of the puzzle, in one box. To understand that is to understand the length, width, and depth of what you wish to uncover. Eschew obsfucation! “ “ The story unfolds before your eyes and ears for those that connect the dots. Many of you see things that are not there. Much energy spent on ghosts that fail to materialize. Questions asked that lay unanswered which will add a crucial piece of the puzzle. Too many people doing too many things to notice the key that lies at your feet. Get back to the basics. Tread old ground, for there are truly Flowers In The Dirt. “ He kept hinting it’s in plain sight. He said “many have actually hit the mark” so this shows it’s perfectly solvable (thought I’d like to see at least one of these “many”). More so, Liam Steen has said that “Paul’s fate is simpler than a lot of people think but the clues are way more deeply developed”. Does it imply that Paul’s fate is just the starting point of this magical mystery tour? That’s it’s something bigger than that? I guess so. I just don’t get what we’re missing (again, just thinking aloud). “ Too many people doing too many things to notice the key that lies at your feet.” I mean… yeah 🥵
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Post by joseph on Aug 25, 2023 11:56:03 GMT -5
Money is the obvious answer… But who knows… Since I found Bill Gates got replaced and how much money they got off him, and made that thread "Double Dipping...", I've thought about the money involved in imposter replacements quite a bit. I have to say it's the most weasely justification for this behaviour. The worst justification is the idealism. All this "Rise" and "One" I see dotted around the media landscape is coming from the culture that's killing and replacing all these people - and I'm not saying there aren't clueless people who are unwittingly working towards that end. B said something that really stuck with me, but I never got to ask him to explain further. It was after he found out he was dying and before he died. He said, "Why don't they just bring it in already?" or words to that effect. Now I don't know what "it" is, but it strongly suggests that the people involved in this are on a promise - a promise of a better life after they've gotten rid of all the people they don't like perhaps? I don't know. All I know is I'm not promising or selling any ideals or a better future. I'm just confessing my own ignorance of replacements and repenting the works of the imposters. There's dozens of songs I used to love and listen to on repeat and I just can't bring myself to listen to them any more. I'm not waiting for someone to confirm what I can already see with with my own eyes, hear with my own ears and understand in my own mind.
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 25, 2023 22:17:52 GMT -5
Money is the obvious answer… But who knows… But why all the mystery? How’s it different from, say, the story of Jimi Hendrix who allegedly was killed for money? Jimi was and still is an iconic figure in his own right but no one talks in riddles about him or asks us to look for answers on an album cover (not trying to be captain obvious here, I know these questions have been asked for ages, just thinking aloud). I can’t help thinking there’s a whole different dimension to it when I revisit Apollo’s post such as these: “I say, the truth is hidden in plain sight. Every piece of the puzzle, in one box. To understand that is to understand the length, width, and depth of what you wish to uncover. Eschew obsfucation! “ “ The story unfolds before your eyes and ears for those that connect the dots. Many of you see things that are not there. Much energy spent on ghosts that fail to materialize. Questions asked that lay unanswered which will add a crucial piece of the puzzle. Too many people doing too many things to notice the key that lies at your feet. Get back to the basics. Tread old ground, for there are truly Flowers In The Dirt. “ He kept hinting it’s in plain sight. He said “many have actually hit the mark” so this shows it’s perfectly solvable (thought I’d like to see at least one of these “many”). More so, Liam Steen has said that “Paul’s fate is simpler than a lot of people think but the clues are way more deeply developed”. Does it imply that Paul’s fate is just the starting point of this magical mystery tour? That’s it’s something bigger than that? I guess so. I just don’t get what we’re missing (again, just thinking aloud). “ Too many people doing too many things to notice the key that lies at your feet.” I mean… yeah 🥵 I agree that Paul’s fate was simpler than most think… And the clues way more complex than they needed to be… Perhaps that’s the only way they could do it… I remember Apollo saying “you’ve been jacked off since day one“… Lol
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Post by joseph on Aug 26, 2023 8:21:54 GMT -5
Go on then... what was his fate and what do most people think happened? What are the other possibilities that the minorities think?
My mum said to me when I was a kid, "Always tell the truth. Be honest because then you don't need to have a good memory." She was right because when I did try to get away with things my memory would fail me and I would get caught, so I chose honesty.
She turned into a right liar though. I looked after her for the last five years of her life and some of the things she would come out with were astonishing. She'd say, "Oh look at this, it's all wet," and I'd say, "Mum you've wet the bed!"
"No I haven't."
"Why didn't you just say. I'd have put you on the toilet."
"It wasn't me."
"Who did it then?"
"I don't know."
When she passed away I thought about it and it occurred to me. You don't need a good memory if you lie all the time either.
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Post by ramone on Aug 26, 2023 10:13:01 GMT -5
I think sometimes (as with types of dementia) a person might actually not know they did something. Or it could be she knew but felt embarrassed it happened and realized it was extra work for you and didn't want to come grips with that.
Taking care of elderly people is a challenge to say the least.
According to ACV - the MO was to just deny, deny. During Watergate no matter what was discovered Nixon et al would just double down with the lies. But, it did catch up with them.
Will the whole PWR matter catch up with those involved? Who knows. Watergate had senate committee power to help figure things out. Not sure that type of influence is going to apply here.
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