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Post by skyward on Aug 21, 2007 21:18:27 GMT -5
The IAAP clearly shows the whole drum when it splits the "Lonely Hearts" line. Unless I have been hypnotized, that shot is not in the movie trailer. So if it is there "frame for frame" from the movie trailer, we must be watching a different movie trailer. That was why I was wondering if IAAP had access to the entire movie. If he was involved in the making of that unreleased movie, he would clearly have a strong motive to do what he has been doing to get back at Apple.Maybe, but let's clear up all the debris.. I was saying that IAAP used footage from the gatefold scene in the PID movie preview, and he started by panning the entire gatefold, (not from the movie) and then dissolving to the scene where the kid points his finger at the "enhanced" OPD patch from the movie. Maybe I weasn't clear on what you were trying to say, you were talking about the drumskin from "thebeatles.com" vs. the '67 drumskin, which IAAP seems to suggest is trying to obfuscate the "HEDIE". Mystery Tour: The question was whether or not if a mirror is held up to the CD/LP covers that it produces a different meaning. The answer is NO. Exactly, the meaning is still quite CRYSTAL clear. Where at thebeatles.com is the video that shows the drumskin so sharp, clear, and close up? IAAP? Care to clear this up? You have been quite silent, how about speaking for yourself for a change? JoJo, I believe that Mystery Tour was referring to Memory Almost Full being mirrored, not the drumskin on the 2007 Pepper images. Anyhow, it does come out to HE^ BIE vs. HE^ DIE. And, depending on how you place the mirror, you might be able to get close to HE ^ DIE on the new lettering. The letters are different, though, so that is something, don't know if it is truly significant. Are they printing new CDs with the new letters? The drum was at the photoshoot, I guess. It looks that way. I don't see a link at Beatles.com, unless it's the Cirque site?
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Post by skyward on Aug 21, 2007 21:04:02 GMT -5
Yeah, tafultong, I wonder if he is reading the thread here, that answered our question. It is better to clear it up than to rely on the fuzzy voice-modification to state the point. And Mystery Tour, this thread has over 30 pages and there have been some bumps where there are 'conclusive' comments on the series from some who haven't taken the time to watch them all. Seeing as this is a thread that covers the Rotten Apple series, it stands to reason that the commentary will be on the videos and there is the expectation that the discussion revolves around the videos unless otherwise noted. They should be watched just so we're on the same page. I may be over-sensitive in this case, but it's just wanting people to hold off on the commentary that may be read as being a tad denigrating until you know that the person you're addressing really is delusional, which just might be the case. Ask for clarification first, then let loose with the critique. And, Nurse Alive is an anagram for An Evil Ruse.
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Post by skyward on Aug 21, 2007 19:24:59 GMT -5
Here is the comparison from RA#47P for those who can't or haven't seen the clip:
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Post by skyward on Aug 21, 2007 18:55:32 GMT -5
It's clearly from the German PID movie, all you need do is watch the preview, the scene with the kid pointing at the drumskin is there, frame for frame, and.. with the "D" visible. How can I make it more crystal clear?? As for whether the Larry King show drumskin is different, a good question, and one I'll research for you all, no charge. Another misunderstanding, I was wondering about the drumskin here, not the OPD/OPP patch. I knew the patch was on the inner gatefold. Your pics show the drumskin on CNN and that looks like the lettering that was used in the latest Rotten Apple video. If you look at the latest Rotten Apple video 47 (about 1 minute 40 secs in), you will see how they are different when using the 'Looking Glass'. Again, from the video, I can't tell what he is saying; some think that the newer prints of Sgt Pepper (printed in 2007) have the new lettering. I don't know if that is the case, that is why I posed the question: Where was the image from? My guess is CNN. And, even if the OPP patch was used, it still closely resembles OPD on the inner gatefold, and maybe the fold is different in Germany? Regardless, I wonder about the significance of the patch. Ontario Police or Pronounced Dead?
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Post by skyward on Aug 21, 2007 12:37:38 GMT -5
Here is the original query by Plastic Paul- "Wow, is that true about the 2007 album being modified so that if a mirror is placed on the middle it no longer says the same thing?
Thats almost like admitting guilt IMO especially after all this time of people knowing of it!
Very interesting indeed.
I'm also impressed by the Memory Almost Full - For My Soulmate LLM anagram, has anybody heard of this before, surely this is no coincidence." When he asks about the 2007 album, he is not asking about Memory Almost Full, as Mystery Tour assumed, he was asking about the newly printed 2007 Sgt. Pepper album covers having new lettering on the drums... (Thus the need to watch the videos to understand the questioning before making accusations) The latest video shows new lettering on the drum, but, I can't understand what he says using the voice-modification technique. It appears that he is saying that the letters are from 2007. I don't know if the letters are indeed on the album cover, from a German PID film or from Larry King's interview. That is something that needs clarification. "... (Thus the need to watch the videos to understand the questioning before making accusations)..." I believed I already explained that I was not accusing you. But back to the matter at hand: There is no 2007 re-release of Sgt. Pepper that I know of. There IS a re-release of Pink Floyd's "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" album slated for 27, August. There may be some confusion there because any article about that invariably mentions that the album was recorded along side 'Pepper' . The question clearly uses the words "mirror" and the "2007" album in the same sentence. There is no reference to a new release of Sgt. Pepper, an album that the poster is somewhat of an expert on. If anything needs clarification, it's Iamaphoney's visual and sound sources. Until proven otherwise, his use of other artists works are misleading and slipshod. In fairness to Iamaphoney, his obvious love of the medium and his mastery of it may be overriding his vision of the truth. Mystery Tour, your misunderstanding of the question led to the 'casting of aspersions' (coming across in an accusatory/denigrating tone) such as "Umm. Please keep it real... ( Insinuating delusion on my part )The question was whether or not if a mirror is held up to the CD/LP covers that it produces a different meaning. The answer is NO. ([glow=red,2,300]That wasn't the question[/glow])"
"Again, there is no mirror imaging tricks on the CD or LP covers of "Memory Almost Full" and your answer in the affirmative suggests that there is...." ( [glow=red,2,300]As if I am doggedly delusional. His question was re:Sgt Pepper.[/glow])
Now if there is a mirror trick in the Pepper drum that appeared with Starr and Co. on the Larry King show and it can be linked to PID/PWR , then that is something exciting. If you have evidence of this I am sure that all of the good people here would love to see it." ([glow=red,2,300]Somewhat condescending despite being in the exact thread where the evidence you call for is located[/glow].)
And thanks, tafultong, I guess there is a sensitivity to hostility on my part.
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Post by skyward on Aug 21, 2007 11:16:37 GMT -5
Yeah, the Memory Almost Full anagram has been pointed out, it was even asked to Sir Paul himself, and he replied that some things remain mysteries or something of that sort. You mentioned the OPP/OPD bit in another thread, and in the latest Rotten Apple that MikeNL just linked, it does look like the finger is pointing at an OPD badge. The D just looks larger than the 'd' in the first P, if you know what I mean. It's at 31 seconds into the clip. What's the point of flashing the pic of Gandhi on SGT Pepper, that ultimately had been removed? Umm. Please keep it real... The question was whether or not if a mirror is held up to the CD/LP covers that it produces a different meaning. The answer is NO.An amagram is another matter altogether, and in this case, refers to Linda, not PID/PWR. Here is the original query by Plastic Paul- "Wow, is that true about the 2007 album being modified so that if a mirror is placed on the middle it no longer says the same thing?
Thats almost like admitting guilt IMO especially after all this time of people knowing of it!
Very interesting indeed.
I'm also impressed by the Memory Almost Full - For My Soulmate LLM anagram, has anybody heard of this before, surely this is no coincidence." When he asks about the 2007 album, he is not asking about Memory Almost Full, as Mystery Tour assumed, he was asking about the newly printed 2007 Sgt. Pepper album covers having new lettering on the drums... (Thus the need to watch the videos to understand the questioning before making accusations) The latest video shows new lettering on the drum, but, I can't understand what he says using the voice-modification technique. It appears that he is saying that the letters are from 2007. I don't know if the letters are indeed on the album cover, from a German PID film or from Larry King's interview. That is something that needs clarification.
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Post by skyward on Aug 21, 2007 10:08:55 GMT -5
Please keep it real? What? There were two questions, one of which was about the Memory Almost Full anagram. And there was a different Pepper Drum lettering that revealed a different mirror anagram, I believe the drum was seen during the Larry King interview. I don't know if that new lettering is on new releases of Sgt Pepper, but that might be the case as well... And if there are anagrams that pertain to LLM, then it gives credence to the possibility that there might be others that pertain to PID or PWR. Again, there is no mirror imaging tricks on the CD or LP covers of "Memory Almost Full" and your answer in the affirmative suggests that there is. An anagram is an entirely different matter, and the one found in "Memory Almost Full" is dedicated (we can assume) to Linda McCartney and is no way relative to PID/PWR. Now if there is a mirror trick in the Pepper drum that appeared with Starr and Co. on the Larry King show and it can be linked to PID/PWR , then that is something exciting. If you have evidence of this I am sure that all of the good people here would love to see it. Mystery Tour, I answered affirmative to the Memory Almost Full anagram question, reread my post. I mentioned that the question was asked to Sir Paul and he gave a reply to it. No one asked about any mirror imaging on the MAF album cover, it is a chair. The Rotten Apple video in question revealed that there is new lettering on the SGT Pepper drum and that when you use a mirror, now in 2007, there is a different outcome, it doesn't show the HE ^ DIE wording. These questions arise from the new Rotten Apple videos, did you watch them? Watch them again to see the change in lettering, then you'll understand the line of questioning and maybe tone down the accusatory angle?
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Post by skyward on Aug 21, 2007 9:16:05 GMT -5
Yeah, the Memory Almost Full anagram has been pointed out, it was even asked to Sir Paul himself, and he replied that some things remain mysteries or something of that sort. You mentioned the OPP/OPD bit in another thread, and in the latest Rotten Apple that MikeNL just linked, it does look like the finger is pointing at an OPD badge. The D just looks larger than the 'd' in the first P, if you know what I mean. It's at 31 seconds into the clip. What's the point of flashing the pic of Gandhi on SGT Pepper, that ultimately had been removed? Umm. Please keep it real... The question was whether or not if a mirror is held up to the CD/LP covers that it produces a different meaning. The answer is NO. An amagram is another matter altogether, and in this case, refers to Linda, not PID/PWR. Please keep it real? What? There were two questions, one of which was about the Memory Almost Full anagram. And there was a different Pepper Drum lettering that revealed a different mirror anagram, I believe the drum was seen during the Larry King interview. I don't know if that new lettering is on new releases of Sgt Pepper, but that might be the case as well... And if there are anagrams that pertain to LLM, then it gives credence to the possibility that there might be others that pertain to PID or PWR.
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Post by skyward on Aug 20, 2007 20:19:51 GMT -5
Wow, is that true about the 2007 album being modified so that if a mirror is placed on the middle it no longer says the same thing? Thats almost like admitting guilt IMO especially after all this time of people knowing of it! Very interesting indeed. I'm also impressed by the Memory Almost Full - For My Soulmate LLM anagram, has anybody heard of this before, surely this is no coincidence. Yeah, the Memory Almost Full anagram has been pointed out, it was even asked to Sir Paul himself, and he replied that some things remain mysteries or something of that sort. You mentioned the OPP/OPD bit in another thread, and in the latest Rotten Apple that MikeNL just linked, it does look like the finger is pointing at an OPD badge. The D just looks larger than the 'd' in the first P, if you know what I mean. It's at 31 seconds into the clip. What's the point of flashing the pic of Gandhi on SGT Pepper, that ultimately had been removed?
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Post by skyward on Aug 20, 2007 18:39:17 GMT -5
What, two videos? Something I just noticed: At the end of the first video (45 U) it says 'The fireman blows his mind' Edit: In the second, the text that appears briefly reads: 'The fireman is no mason' and 'THE FINE RAM' repeatedly. FINE RAM is an anagram for FIREMAN. 45U, from about 1:45 to about 2:03, is particularly fascinating. I wink. -j From 'Many Years From Now" “I’ve always had this thing of him and me; he goes on stage, he’s famous, and then me; I’m just some kid from Liverpool. Occasionally I stop and think, I am Paul McCartney, fuckin’ hell, that is a total freak-out!” Who is the gray-haired guy in RA 45?
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Post by skyward on Aug 20, 2007 14:16:03 GMT -5
'Let It Be' attempted in reverse
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Post by skyward on Aug 20, 2007 13:26:22 GMT -5
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Post by skyward on Aug 14, 2007 14:31:30 GMT -5
@ 2:26 is there someone 's head ( unaccounted for to date) behind Issy? where he points his finger? You mean right at the start? That RAOB? Crowley? I think Jarvitronics posted that find in another thread here not too long ago, I wonder if IAAP Inc noticed it.
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Post by skyward on Aug 14, 2007 14:26:50 GMT -5
Guys; i found an anagram on MalEvans fake account: Abbey Tell Ale Kid so i asked IAAP what it means.. and he said it starts with Killed so.. Killed by Abel Te A or something like that Killed by a Beatle, I assume that is in regard to Mal Evans.
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Post by skyward on Aug 14, 2007 10:09:36 GMT -5
I think he's written in full; I AM A PHONEY Damn it I'm so tempted to go up there right now, see if he's still hanging about! It appears to be the address to his website on YouTube... Advertising the IAAP Inc. series of Rotten Apple videos.
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Post by skyward on Aug 14, 2007 0:13:04 GMT -5
He appears to drop this at the door... His shirt Three quotes, first one by Paul, only partial quotes in the RA video '... if The Beatles were really bad, we could have played Hitler's game... such was our power." Don't know the 2nd one, the distorted quote. Not sure this is all accurate. "With everything, ?(anytime to say)? , my aim seems to be the distorted. Distorted from what we know it as, but to change it from what is is to what it could be." The third is by Timothy Leary, something about 'I declare that The Beatles are mutants. Evolutionary agents sent by God, endowed with mysterious power to create a new human species." Looks like he walked backwards and the film was reversed to show him walking forward, like the CODE Car video.
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Post by skyward on Aug 12, 2007 14:15:13 GMT -5
I have no idea what the correlation between "apple star" and "fake moustache" might be, but here's what I've gathered in regards to that video: - Brief As Read is an anagram of Free As A Bird - Apple Star is a play on words. Ringo is Japanese for "apple", so the title is Ringo Star - Just Don't Say Anything The song where you hear "He was my brother" is a reverse of 'Free as a Bird' YouTube reverse by MikeNL I don't get how it comes out to sound like Free as a bird.
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Post by skyward on Aug 11, 2007 9:42:58 GMT -5
I was looking at the fake JamesPaulMcCartney youtube page, and i noticed : Country: Christmas Island so i looked it up, and it looked a lot like the place where IAAP was in the CODE/LOVE car The Territory of Christmas Island is a small, non-self-governing territory of Australia located in the Indian Ocean, 2600 kilometres (1600 mi) northwest of Perth in Western Australia and 500 kilometres (300 mi) south of Jakarta, Indonesia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Island MikeNL, I think each of IAAP Inc.'s screen names has a curious home location. And I think the videos were shot in the U.S., as they/he/she went to a Beatles convention in Las Vegas as well as the show at Amoeba records in LA.
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Post by skyward on Aug 8, 2007 10:12:53 GMT -5
Here is a blowup, the glow appears to be the reflection off the person's pants. It looks like his/her knee is resting on the bumper, are they stealing a license plate?
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Post by skyward on Aug 8, 2007 9:56:40 GMT -5
It looks like there are three darkly-colored cars in a row and there are people standing behind the first one. It looks like three people, and maybe two are on the sidewalk? It is hard to tell. I don't know what they might be doing, but perhaps they are unloading items for the convention? The video is a super-imposed with itself so that is why there are double images. You see ghost images that make things hard to figure out. I could blow up the pic, but first I want to know if these are adequate.
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Post by skyward on Aug 7, 2007 19:56:49 GMT -5
Thanks for posting those, skyward. I never even saw the first two frames you posted, and that's my favorite from him so far! The images were only on screen for a centi-second blip, not really microseconds. I should watch it again from the beginning to see if there are more 'hidden' images, though some of them are more frequently shown and therefore are more easily seen. The red and blue lensed glasses, are they 3D glasses? I watched it again and most of the images occur between 2:23 and 2:40, and those 6 I posted were most of them. There is one of George Martin and the White haired woman that has been posted before. And then the back of the Thrillington album and the beetle.
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Post by skyward on Aug 7, 2007 19:49:58 GMT -5
These are some still images that were taken from the 'a Lie Adds Up' series posted by Iamaphoney Inc.
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Post by skyward on Aug 2, 2007 12:34:46 GMT -5
Remember, too, that the wiki article mentioned that there were originally going to be two photos of Crowley and that one was removed because it looked too much like Paul. I don't know what to make of that, but it is another link to the possibility that they concealed a good portion of the 2nd Crowley picture.
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Post by skyward on Aug 1, 2007 22:16:15 GMT -5
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Post by skyward on Aug 1, 2007 21:59:41 GMT -5
This whole drama began because of a post I made, wherein I attempted, rather poorly I must assume, to communicate my feeling that it was a waste of time to go chasing after "mysteries" in the Rotten Apples, such as anagrams, Bible chapters, and backward messages that IAAP was inserting into the audio. My point was that attempting to find meaning in these "mysteries" was a waste of energy that we could be spending discussing Paul or Sgt Pepper or MMT. P.S. I actually think the RA videos are kind of cool; I just think it is illogical to give the RA "mysteries" any credence. Okay, I see where you were coming from. The Rotten Apple series is a new and relatively unique way of conveying information, though, and I think that is why it has taken on a life of its own. Typically on these forums (PID, TKIN) we see still images, animated fades and other examples of photo analysis. We also have the examination of artwork (album covers/album inserts) and lyrics and their promo videos or movies. More often than not, a member's analysis is clear cut and straight forward, something that others can replicate on their own. Sometimes, members partake in abstract wordplay themselves to try to present a point or idea. IAAP Inc has taken all of the above methods and applied them in a quizzical manner in his video clips. Certainly, some clips are questionable. I think the SNL skit with Chris Farley is irrelevant, as it was a comedy skit and he was acting out his reaction. It wasn't a 60 minutes reporter asking him bluntly about it. Having said that, lately, they have become more surreal, and that requires a bit of scrutiny in order to determine the gist of the message of the clip. I think that is where the 'drama' originated here. I, and others, feel that the clips are worth investigating in order to derive the intended meaning of the clip. It isn't the same thing as trying to uncover "certified" Beatles' clues within the clips, but who is to say they aren't in there? And there has been significant content, for example, he posted the bit about a Love code, and then he produced the CODE mirror image. Isn't that similar to the first time someone mirrored the Pepper drum? He found anagrams and posted them in the video, that is the same as finding anagrams and posting them in text on the forums. I think the clips are worth watching and worth discussing, that doesn't mean I think they are infallible gospel. And Jude mentioned how they have become more cryptic, but I feel that gets your abstract puzzle crunching mind in gear. IAAP isn't the only one to use abstract or cryptic methods in his delivery.
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