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Post by 65if2007 on Jan 9, 2018 22:30:27 GMT -5
What do you make of the Melody Makers award ceremony that reportedly took place on September 13, 1966? I don't think that's the real Paul at MM with Tom Jones, Ringo (?) & Dusty Springfield. Interestingly enough, one of my social media correspondents says that that IS Paul but that the ceremony took place on the preceding Tuesday, September 6.
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Post by 65if2007 on Jan 8, 2018 15:28:27 GMT -5
What do you make of the Melody Makers award ceremony that reportedly took place on September 13, 1966?
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 19, 2016 13:55:44 GMT -5
What he actually says is, "It's hard, really, to stand here...supposedly representing the Beatles...what's left, I'm afraid..." Seems like a cloaked statement to me. Maybe.
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 18, 2016 21:55:16 GMT -5
It's hard to stand here representing the Beatles when this is all that's left. What he actually says is, "It's hard, really, to stand here...supposedly representing the Beatles...what's left, I'm afraid..."
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 17, 2016 22:10:50 GMT -5
I like Iamaphoney's dramatization of it. I'm not sure that GH uses the past tense, though maybe his tone of voice indicates that he means to use the past tense. I think it's a close call as to whether he sticks his tongue through his lips in order to complete the past tense "d" sound after love.
It's sobering to think that kingdoms might rise and fall over this issue.
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 17, 2016 22:01:48 GMT -5
He's laughing at the "lookalike" joke in Iamaphoney's most recent video.
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Post by 65if2007 on Dec 24, 2015 21:42:14 GMT -5
I don't claim to have solved anything. I don't claim to have cracked any case. I said more than once that I don't know. But you're not reading a word that anyone else is saying, are you?
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Post by 65if2007 on Dec 23, 2015 12:48:15 GMT -5
Have you tried asking Paul? I did. He swears he's him. (answer: "That may not be the whole story. Of course we would say that!") Unclear how I can be educated by one who looks for clues in album art...The hoaxer and the man himself are right there saying it! I'm sorry, but I don't believe for one minute that you've ever communicated with the man known to the world as "Paul McCartney". Celebrities are not that accessible in the real world. This is before we get into the issue of the veracity of his response. In the second place, I've already explained to you that Fred Labour is not "the hoaxer", even if he claims that he is. I note that you simply and disrespectfully disregarded that argument by just referring to him, without comment, as "the hoaxer" for the second time.
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Post by 65if2007 on Dec 23, 2015 0:52:56 GMT -5
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Post by 65if2007 on Dec 22, 2015 12:21:02 GMT -5
Of course it's a hoax. For decades, a Paul lookalike who sounds like him, moves like him, plays bass and other instruments like him, writes like him has fooled everyone? Isn't there a chance you could be wrong, sort of like Sir Isaac Newton, combing the Bible for "clues"? I don't know exactly what to believe. It could all be a hoax, but my personal opinion is that Paul McCartney has been played by two or three people. Not everyone agrees that the individual bearing that name has consistently demonstrated the same appearance/personality/temperament/talent. Thematic references to more than one McCartney in Beatles/McCartney compositions and photographic comparisons have been subject to unlimited discussion in this forum (and will no doubt be subject to still more discussion), as you would learn if you looked at the archives. I'm not sure that anyone died or was permanently replaced, but if it was a hoax, it's not clear what the object of the hoax would be or why it hasn't been acknowledged by now. In any event, you are now shifting the goalposts. You started off this particular thread by acting as if you had found a smoking gun. "Hey, the guy who started the whole thing has admitted that he was participating in a hoax." Now that you've been educated on that point, you're shifting to a different conventional argument.
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Post by 65if2007 on Dec 21, 2015 23:11:03 GMT -5
Hello, it's me! I followed all of this but then I found out it was all a hoax, admitted so by the guy who started it. A. Graham It's more accurate to say that Fred LaBour took credit for starting the rumor than it is to say that he "admitted" it. He enjoyed the notoriety and did not get into any legal trouble for it. The LaBour article is largely based upon the Abbey Road album, but LaBour wasn't even the first American college reporter to report the death of Beatle Paul McCartney. That was Tim Harper of the Drake Times-Delphic whose article came out on September 17, 1969 before the Abbey Road album had even been released. But actually, the rumor had been percolating for years and can be found in print as early as January 1967. Whether or not PID is a hoax remains to be seen (maybe) but Fred LaBour's "admission" that he "started it" is completely invalid and can be disregarded. Is Beatle Paul McCartney Dead?
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Post by 65if2007 on Nov 25, 2015 19:47:40 GMT -5
It's obvious that the IAAP videos were cut and spliced to make Emilio seem to be "in the know". I think if we were to have seen the interview in it's entirety, we would have gotten a much different impression on just how much he actually knows. While I'm sure that there was cutting and splicing performed for the purpose of serving the interests of the videomaker, I don't think I agree with the implication that Lari wasn't really posturing (or didn't mean to posture) as someone who was "in the know". Anyway, I had the foresight to download the old Rotten Apple 81aa before it was taken down, and the viewer can decide for himself/herself.
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Post by 65if2007 on Oct 23, 2015 22:42:53 GMT -5
The reference – page 304, Many Years from Now Barry Miles: ‘Doppelganger,’ for the Sgt Pepper concept. Its eerie the way this book has Faul reminiscing about Paul’s early life, with uncanny detail. If one accepts PID then Barry Miles becomes a central enigma. He was there at the Indica Gallery, he ran the International Times so he knew the real, actual JPM rather well. So let me ask this, if you go to The Rotten Apple no. 710 www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JwMp-ENcdQ#t=31 at 3 minutes you hear "Yes I’ve known both of them" - Is that the voice of Barry Miles? (Or it could be Robin Dunbar, who is mentioned just before). It is supposed to be Peter Asher, Jane Asher's brother, and the source is the inquiry into PID that F. Lee Bailey did in 1969. Asher is supposed to be saying that in a joking manner.
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Post by 65if2007 on Oct 23, 2015 22:40:00 GMT -5
Lie or he die, maybe. Dunno. But the pressure of being perhaps one of the last living witnesses - other than insiders - has to have been immense. I don't know. But the recantation is all wrong -- at least based on what's visible in the Rotten Apple videos. The recantation suggests that PID was a bill of goods that someone else sold him. The videos portray him as the instructor -- talking about what he knows or suspects -- while "Billy Martin" is the pupil, in a manner of speaking. Unless the videos were staged with someone giving Lari a script, they don't suggest that Lari is being conned by someone else. But as always, my caveat is...I don't know.
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Post by 65if2007 on Sept 25, 2015 18:49:20 GMT -5
What should we make of this?
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Post by 65if2007 on Jul 9, 2012 20:25:49 GMT -5
What exactly was rock-n-roll's answer to Mahatma Gandhi and Don Rickles planning to do to disrupt the 1972 GOP convention?
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Post by 65if2007 on May 16, 2012 0:46:40 GMT -5
Hi everyone! I'm only 25 but I was brought up on the Beatles music pretty much from the day I was born, so I've always been a huge fan. I stumbled on a PID website maybe five or six years ago, read it and kind of laughed it off, but for some reason over the past few days it popped back into my head and became a kind of obsession. So I did some google searches and found a few pretty much dead forums and finally stumbled on this one which seems to still be active! I look forward to doing a lot of reading and responding. Also, I am not the pennylane whos old posts show up in my profile. I just noticed that haha...Didn't want any confusion! You may not find a lot to respond to, pennylane, if "Paul is Dead" (PID) is (kind of) your "obsession". Notwithstanding its title and the theme set forth at the top and the original concept behind the forum, the forum has very little to do with PID and everything to do with -- a lot of cobwebs that touch every subject OTHER THAN PID. I just searched randomly and found a recent video of "Badfinger" playing the song "Baby Blue". What does this have to do with PID? Nothing. Not a blessed thing. It's random "stream of consciousness" monologue, which is what the forum mostly consists of -- random meaningless "stream of consciousness" monologues that sometimes become random meaningless "stream of consciousness" dialogues. I mostly "troll" it (in a manner of speaking) looking for an occasional bit of content relevant to PID left over as an afterthought. I'm sorry if I might have thrown cold water on your newfound discovery, but I'm kind of an SOB that way sometimes
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 30, 2012 21:26:18 GMT -5
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Post by 65if2007 on Mar 30, 2012 13:06:45 GMT -5
I'm intrigued by iamaphoney's suggestion that it is actually (or also) a veiled reference to "Aiwass".
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Post by 65if2007 on Mar 29, 2012 22:41:26 GMT -5
Well, after the current McCartney dies, they should find a way to do a re-shoot or a photoshop over a sign that reads "We Were".
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Post by 65if2007 on Mar 29, 2012 0:30:15 GMT -5
I think that either JPM died in 1966 or was never replaced at all -- except maybe in a few photoshoots.
Death clues -- numerous and repeated -- make no sense to me at all unless they're a) true or b) a joke or c) a ritual of some sort.
But clues betokening a sudden and violent death in a car accident make no sense to me at all if there was simply a substitution for a still-alive-and-well human being. That's just too much of a double-bind for me to believe in.
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Post by 65if2007 on Mar 23, 2012 22:12:28 GMT -5
As a long time lurker, I have noticed there has been an occasional "uprising" on this forum between long time members which goes off topic or off a radical cliff dive. I have this distinct sense that some of these members are the same entity. More like MPD than PWR/PID. Is this to confuse newcomers or regulars to no end? This forum represents the spirit of what exactly? judging whose terribly right or whose terribly wrong, stupid or lost and deflect any reasoning whatsoever to the real truth. It is all disheartening and far from enlightening. There is an agenda/psyops to all this. DoubleYoU, let me give you a resounding three cheers. I have often become disillusioned with this forum because of -- what I regard as -- the puerility of the discussions in relationship with what the theme of the forum is supposed to be. What is the theme of the forum SUPPOSED to be? It's set forth right at the top of the home page: Paul McCartney Was Replaced Welcome to the discussion! The purpose of this forum is to discuss the idea that Paul McCartney was replaced some time in late 1966. Why was he replaced? The most likely answer is that the original Paul McCartney is dead, but some other theories have been presented here. Please feel free to read further! Well, I just randomly turned to a different discussion, and there is a YouTube video of someone named "Dame Shirley Bassey" singing "Get the Party Started". If you were to randomly turn to another discussion, you might find a picture of the Golden Gate Bridge, the Milky Way, a garbage dump in Gowanus, Brooklyn, or maybe a picture of Rocky & Bullwinkle being determinedly stalked by Boris & Natasha. I made up all of those examples in the last paragraph, but they all might be part of this forum's history, for all I know. What does any of this have to do with PID? Nothing, but discussions in this forum almost invariably spin esoteric but unenlightening off-topic cobwebs like these, and if PID is your interest, you're generally going to be disappointed with the direction which the conversations take. Some time ago, I had occasion to copy and paste the bylaws of the forum which essentially instructed its members to remain on-topic and not to drown out the conversation with bizarre conspiracy theories on peripheral or unrelated matters. These bylaws have been observed in the breach more than in the observance, and it doesn't sit well with me either. I'm glad to see someone else remarking critically on that, though I really don't feel in a position to address your supposition that this is all part of some "agenda/psyops". I don't want to over-dramatize this. None of this is a capital crime; just an annoyance.
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Post by 65if2007 on Mar 5, 2012 21:51:50 GMT -5
" Emilio started his career by bluffing his way on to the set of Richard Lester’s A Hard Day's Night in 1964. On set, the crew and actors happened to be waiting for a photographer from L’European magazine and welcomed Lari accordingly. Emilio happily played the role until he was exposed when the official photographer arrived. However, his talent and friendly approach led to an invitation to the filming of Help! in 1965. Lari’s charm and happy-go-lucky attitude took him through 40 years of European and Hollywood movies – from the cult 1966 hit Barbarella and Franco Zeffirelli’s classic 1968 Romeo and Juliet, to Francis Ford Coppola’s iconic Godfather trilogy and Martin Scorsese’s Raging Bull. As the official on-set photographer to the biggest stars of the Big Screen, Lari’s stills are infused with a sense of ease that comes from his relationship with the actors and directors that he worked with. His portfolio includes some incredible shots of iconic figures caught off guard; we see John Lennon mucking about in a long dark wig, and Jane Fonda stealing the director’s chair to put her feet up between takes. Facing us from the back of that chair is the Director’s name: Roger Vadim. Lari has tipped the viewer a cheeky wink... As much as his considerable skill with the camera, Emilio Lari’s ebullient personality and playful eye characterises his unique brand of photography. As Francis Ford Coppola said of him, you ‘.. can’t separate the work from the man, but both lifted your spirits.’ " once you figured out what he was talking about! see also: iamaphoney.blogspot.com/2010/11/emilio-lari.htmlHa ha ha, LB. Actually, there's very little of an ebullient personality or playful eye or any sort of spirit-lifting quality visible in the RA videos. He always seems to be sad or desperate. As long as he IS able to make himself comprehensible -- after a fashion -- why doesn't he discuss PID with any of his professional contacts? Why is it only to Iamaphoney that he confides his deepest fears? And I wonder if he was a source for the Wired Italia article.
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Post by 65if2007 on Mar 5, 2012 21:32:06 GMT -5
Much obliged. I think what you're hearing is more accurate than what I heard. Oh, you're welcome. I was looking for an insight, but it's better to give than to receive, I suppose.
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Post by 65if2007 on Mar 5, 2012 0:30:24 GMT -5
"This is the duties with the 'soldier' " ? (to keep the information that Paul had been in a car crash hidden, presumably. I'm guessing a soldier was standing guard at the crash site.) His previous statement (1:19 - 1:29) was: "I was in (At) 'lanta' in 1966, and somebody told us that Paul McCartney was dead in a car crash, and had won." (a race, presumably)----------------------------------------The "they'd know they'd become an alien" repeats at :50 - :55 are odd. I suspect that the complete sentence was something along the lines of: "That way, if they were to die accidentally, they'd know they'd become an alien." Implicitly, one would gather that the Beatles may have been promised by the powers-that-were, that in the event that any of them were killed, they would have a back-up (alien) body accessible to them, which presumably was storing all their real life experience and memories, simultaneously with their earthly bodies. No, no, no. I'm sorry, Letter B, but your hearing is no better than mine. And I know that Emilio Lari's accent is very hard to pick up when he tries to use it to speak English. But in the first place, in earlier RA videos, Lari uses the word "sosia" (Italian for double), and that is surely the word that he's using here -- not "soldier". "Sosia" makes more sense in the context of iamaphoney's narrative than does "soldier". In the second place, Lari is clearly saying, "I was in LONDON in 1966" -- which, in context, makes considerably more sense than to suppose that he was saying "I was in Atlanta". It's "car crash on the M1", not "car crash and had won". I'm not sure of what Mal Evans is saying, but I doubt that he's saying anything about becoming an "alien". It sounds to me like he's using the world "heirloom" -- which might simply refer to his now-expanded role in Beatles history, given that he is claiming part authorship of "Fixing a Hole" and "Sgt. Pepper". I wouldn't swear to that, but again, I think that talk of "back up alien bodies" is not part of the iamaphoney narrative, however much it may be a part of the narratives of others.
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