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Post by bandi on Jan 12, 2016 2:18:46 GMT -5
Hi boyay22: which 1969 JPM is eating at the table with the John Lennon replacement ? Please pick out the one below that's in your '69 photo above. I sure as heck can't find him out of the 6 below, can you ? The one in your '69 photo above who is on the right sitting with the girl in blue is not the one on the left with the JL fake, nor is the guy all the way on the right to be found in the 6 below. (the 6 photo compilation comparison below is borrowed from the Beatles Never Existed dot com---thank you Dorie!): 6 JPM's enlarged for easier comparison: Again, thanks to the Beatles Never Existed dot com--thanks Dorie !
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Post by bandi on Jan 6, 2016 3:43:20 GMT -5
Hello, B;
Could you explain your newer post a little bit more ? I try hard to follow but when I visit here and try to grasp what you and beatlas231 write/wrote here in this thread, I get confused. I'm not sure why; its been said that confusion is a 'protection device' to keep you from something that may be harmful or upsetting. Sure, that'll be laughable to some but to me I always seem to need to read some posts over and over in order to get up to speed. So please help those of us slower ones understand what you're saying. I appreciate it because like you I want to get absolute understanding of what went on with these guys and what or how they pulled it off. Whatever that was that they pulled off. Thank you and thanks beatlas231.
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Post by bandi on Jan 2, 2016 23:05:58 GMT -5
Jiminy Cricket ! I did not know that Miss Lucy. I hope you have enough sun block with you. Now that I've been made aware that you three are one I can see why I enjoy the writings of the three of you.
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Post by bandi on Jan 1, 2016 19:34:15 GMT -5
Lucy, I forgot about you ! But, I have learned from you so it's for that reason that I should have included you on my list of well wishees for a New Year ! My apologies. And, if you really are already on my list of those who've helped me along this dimly lit road, thank you thrice.
Also, if Yoko is here thank you for being kind when I saw you in Cold Spring Harbor in '82. You were getting into your red 911 Targa on Main Street with a coffee and bagel in your hand.
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Post by bandi on Dec 31, 2015 21:54:06 GMT -5
To everyone, including my favorites==iameye, Jojo, Letter B, beatlas231, fourthousandholes, jarvtronics, Jai Guru Deva, MikeNL, (wherever these people have been?) hotman637, seasaltcaramel, IWill, P(D)enny La(i)ne, billwhyman, tafultong, as well as 'Doc' who I also haven't seen post in a while; these wishes go out to the others that I can't remember but have posted enough information to help me learn more. Also, and just as important, Happy New Year to the original 4===JL, JPM, GH & RS if they've ever really existed; Happy New Year to the ones who've checked out==Apollo C. Vermouth, and ones that I can't remember. Also, good wishes to 'Big GM' (George Martin??) who posted here years ago but has since been close lipped. Most of all Happy New Year to the man/men who are currently playing the part of James Paul McCartney. You've done a remarkable job in a very difficult world and you've pulled it off really, really well. You deserve all the money and fame that you have and more, and I hope you live a very long life, healthy and happy with family and friends always close by.
THANK YOU ALL WHO'VE POSTED HERE AND CONTRIBUTED TO EVERYONE'S EDUCATION ON THIS VERY, VERY TOUCHY SUBJECT.
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Post by bandi on Dec 27, 2015 22:11:55 GMT -5
Same for you iameye. Please continue with this. Your posts are also interesting, if over my head most of the time. But that's a good thing because you make me think, which is good.
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Post by bandi on Dec 27, 2015 22:09:37 GMT -5
Hi beatlas231--
Please continue posting on this topic. I and I think others are very interested in your insight and your posts. Please, keep going on this topic. And, B, please stay with it also. I think something is developing here with this and I'd hate to see it go cold. Thank you.
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Post by bandi on Dec 22, 2015 3:28:10 GMT -5
Hi beatlas231;
Is 'Bill' in your post the name of the man playing the part of John Lennon ?
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Post by bandi on Dec 21, 2015 0:36:46 GMT -5
B and/or beatlas231: Could someone help us slower members understand any of this post ? My apologies, I don't get any of it.
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Post by bandi on Nov 15, 2015 3:03:10 GMT -5
Can anyone suggest where to start trying to understand the messages in billywhyman's glut of posts ?
Thanks.
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Post by bandi on Aug 31, 2015 0:13:18 GMT -5
Essence, what makes you feel they were eliminated ? I'm not challenging you I'm just curious as to why you feel that way. As for cloning, I think this is what's up. Besides the www.thebeatlesneverexisted.com web site there are many videos about cloning on YT. There is even a few vids on you tube that clearly show what the ptb were up to in the 1930's. What I'm talking about is a Betty Boop cartoon that is about this topic. They were showing us what they were doing way, way back even then. If you can find the vid that I'm talking about, there are other videos linked to it. The problem seems to be that when you finally accept that they were cloning people in power for as long or longer than we can imagine, you tend to want to talk about this with others. And if you're like me, you'll not choose wisely who you try to talk about this with. I keep thinking (well not anymore) that people want to know about this stuff and they don't. They'll look at you like you're crazy, call you names and laugh at you (that is guaranteed). What that does is it discourages you from looking for others who really want to know about this kind of stuff. The nice lady who runs TBNE has done comparisons and clearly shows that there were at least a dozen and maybe more Paul McCartneys before they even hit it big in 1964. You can browse the comparisons yourself, agree or disagree, it's up to you. The enlightening information is there for anyone to see but you have to leave your beliefs and conditioning behind when you start studying the comparisons.
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Post by bandi on Jul 23, 2015 1:43:17 GMT -5
Hi seasaltcaramel, try these on him. Maybe you can read his reaction to them more so than his words. He'll probably not tell the truth either way.
"Mr. Laine, how were your years spent with Paul and Linda McCartney and if you would, please tell us what were the contributing factors that led up to two of the members of the band leaving the group right before heading off to Africa to record the album ?". "Mr. Laine, in all the years you spent performing and recording with Paul did it ever occur to you that the man that you were playing with may not be the original Beatlemania era Paul McCartney ?".
I can think of many other questions but I think by the time you asked him the second one he'd end the interview and walk away.
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Post by bandi on Jul 3, 2015 19:11:06 GMT -5
Here, here ! Good points everyone. I too have experienced being marginalized and dismissed, as well as getting condescending replies and outright offensive replies on the other forums (never been to Icke's or the other one where the cheetah or big cat shrieks offensively loud into the microphone at the beginning of all her videos---if anyone knows who I mean---maybe the shock of the big cat's painfully loud cry is a mind connect to put you in to some state where it's advantageous to the site's backers?---just a thought). I like this place very much, I especially like a few certain un-named people's posts and their mind sets. There is another forum that I like just as much as this one but I won't mention it here so as not to rile (ryle, ryul ?) up anyone who doesn't agree with the other site's owners opinion. I think that underneath it all, some very hidden things went on from the beginning with this musical group. I've seen so many comparison photos from very early in the 1950's to later on that clearly shows there was more than one of each band member. I'm not talking about stand ins and decoys either. I mean I've seen multiple versions of each Beatle actually performing--singing, playing instruments and everything. I would like to get some discussion about this fact (I believe it to be a fact) going, and see if others see what I see. Anyone care to comment ?
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Post by bandi on Jul 3, 2015 17:00:38 GMT -5
Hi uglycustard;
If you don't mind, where's this photo from and how did you find it ? By the way, I'm not challenging you in any way, NO ! I'm just curious if there are any other photos that show the guy playing with someone that can be identified with the Beatles or, anyone who would be recognizable as a person who'd be in the Abbey Road studios during the 1967 recording.
Is there any mention of what the song or album was that they were recording at the time the photo was taken ? I find it strange that they'd publish a photo of someone who is allegedly playing on a 1967 recording (or any years' recording for that matter) of Beatles' music, other than one of the Fab Four.
As far as I know--and I'm no expert--Billy Preston and Eric Clapton are the only people who ever played on any Beatles record other than the groups' members themselves. However, I seem to remember that Klaus Voorman may have played on a song or two from the Revolver period, or at least a time frame close to that time period; am I right on that ? I know Klaus designed the Revolver album cover art work, but I thought he also played bass on a song, but, I'm probably wrong on that. (I know this really doesn't belong in the middle of this post, but speaking of Klaus this is what he had to say in a utube video called THE BEATLES BIGGEST SECRETS: "From that point when they stopped doing live gigs there was a certain spirit that was necessary for this band, Beatles, was gone...." Spooky, huh ?).
Other than Clapton and Billy P. there is nobody that I can remember who ever played with them on any recording.
I'm sure though that it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to believe there were others who played or sang on Beatles records, but never got mentioned on the record sleeves. The two leaders of the Beatles--JL & JPM--had infinitely immeasurable huge egos so I can't imagine either of them allowing a true musician's participation in recording one of their songs to get a mention anywhere in print.
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Post by bandi on Jun 20, 2015 1:46:50 GMT -5
LOVELYRITA---thanks for your posts above, I agree with what you said. Especially what you posted about there being many of each 'player' in the Beatles 'play'. I don't think the Revolver album was named about a gun. I've been seeing quite a few of each of these guys even as far back as 1958. If I could learn how to post comparison pics I'd prove what we're both thinking and saying. Many, many of each.
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Post by bandi on Jun 20, 2015 1:41:07 GMT -5
C'mon, 'F' & 'B' !
What are you two doing this for ? I've been coming here for years, many, many years and I've gotten quite a bit of good education from this forum, and I've only seen a couple of exchanges like that.
'B'---I know you post a LOT of times here and that 'F' is only now starting to post, but you don't have to cut him (her?) off at the knees like that. He won't come back if you do and he may have some good posts in the future. I've also been marginalized on this forum as well as couple of other forums for 'going against the grain' so to speak, then I'd stay away each time it happened.
So what if F says something you don't agree with ? You have an awful lot to say judging by your 10000+ posts, why so short & dismissive with F ? It wouldn't kill you to say more than the two words you said, delivered the way you delivered them. How else could he feel than the way he did, and react the way he did ? I've never heard this place is controlled. I have heard & seen folks get pretty testy when someone posts something they don't believe or agree with. Maybe, B, you're smarter than F or more hip to things about this topic, but it really would be nice if we all gave a little more than a 2 word response to someone's beginning posts here, especially when the 2 words are delivered in such a way that those 2 words give off the aroma that your thoughts are somehow more important, or more valid or just final than what he says.
I'm actually embarrassed that F was treated like that. Especially from you, B. You've opened my eyes to A LOT of good things with your posts--which I've probably read almost all of the 10K+ in the past years. I always respected your thoughts and your ability to help us newer arrivee's understand things we've missed, and I want to thank you for that. Thank you.
But give us newer folks a little respect. I've seen the 4 lads play live; I've been around and have seen and experienced quite a lot of things and have gathered some wisdom in the process. Coming from that mind set, please have a little more heart with us who want to learn, yet, like you probably were at some point in your journey, are conditioned pretty deeply. With time and pomegranates we all may learn what we need to learn--here, there and everywhere.
Thank you B.
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Post by bandi on Jun 16, 2015 0:07:54 GMT -5
I agree with that, hotman637. It took fifty years though before it was all shown to me, a little at a time, drip, drip, drip, percolating until the time, place and people all combined to open up that closed off section of my mind. This forum was one of the elements that combined with other things to help me see what I didn't see for all those years. And now, what do I want ? I want to tell others, but I can't. Why ? Because those that I talk to about this look at me with a combination of strained incredulity and complete and total mental breakdown. You think by now I'd have learned to better judge whom I talk about this stuff with.
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Post by bandi on Jun 7, 2015 18:03:39 GMT -5
Shocking news---
The man who played the part of the BB King who died again this year stole, or to put it less accusatory, borrowed the name from the original BB King many, many years ago. The original BB King died in a bar fire 75 years or so ago, down in the deep south somewhere that I can't recall. Many years later, when BB the second was asked about how he named his guitar 'Lucille' he told some truth when he said that a fire in a bar that he was playing in caused everyone inside to run for the exits and, when he was outside the bar after escaping the flames he realized his 'prized' 6 string was still inside the place and that he had to run back in while dodging the flames to retrieve the guitar and, it was just after that that he named his instrument 'Lucille'. Yawn. So, after I saw the comparison photos of the two BB's that were posted--it may have been this forum that this story was posted at, maybe not, I can't remember---I spewed the milk I was drinking thru my nose because, as plain as day you or someone with terrible eyesight could see for themselves---that the original BB King, of which there were very few photos of except for the one used for the comparison---was without a shadow of a doubt, NOT the BB King who took over the name and guitar work of the original. And, something else that I remember about the text that was posted along with the comparison photos, the reason why it was so easy to keep hushed up was because there were very few people with cameras who took photos of bar musicians in that specific time period. If I remember correctly the fire that supposedly killed the original BB was either in the late 1930's or early 1940's which coincided with the time period that hands down the greatest 6 string jazz guitarist that ever lived was making news in the music world. I think that BB the second was jealous of not only the original BB King but, was out of his mind with envy of Charlie Christian, who was Benny Goodman's electric guitar genius in the late 30's till the early 40's, when Charlie died of tuberculosis. The style of blues that BB the second ripped off from the original BB King was a pale comparison to the 'new' single string solos that were coming out of Charlie Christian's electric hollowbody Gibson ES-150 6 string. While both BB's were bending the strings, repeating their solo runs almost the same in whatever key their songs were in, Charlie Christian was playing his guitar like a horn player, blowing away all competition and up till today, nobody has come close to what CC did and achieved, all of which was done before he reached his 22nd birthday. May God rest the souls of Charlie Christian, BB King the original and the fat ripoff bastard who stole the name BB King and played the same boring guitar scale/note bends for 75 years. Some things never change.
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Post by bandi on May 28, 2015 18:26:50 GMT -5
Hey Steph, you may be on to something.
As to whether JL & JPM were talking to each other in the songs, I don't know. But it seems possible, at least to me. Messages, no matter how obscure and camouflaged are in lots of lyrics to songs.
Good work !
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Post by bandi on May 19, 2015 23:46:42 GMT -5
While you're laughing out loud my friend, don't assume he's buried and don't assume he's not.
We've all been led to believe one way or the other about this stage play; but instead of taking a 'side' don't be surprised if some day you find out something that's so hard to believe---about the Beatles---that you will refuse to believe it, even after you've been shown proof.
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Post by bandi on May 8, 2015 14:52:11 GMT -5
Hi bass,
Do you think there really was an actual contract signed between the 'lads' and Eppy ? If so I wonder if it made it into the safe at Brian's house (if there is one, I don't know) or if it was grabbed by the Brit gov't. ?
Who exactly is the sun king person ? I've seen his posts quite a few times and wondered who he/she is.
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Post by bandi on May 7, 2015 22:24:15 GMT -5
Hi bass; I'm going to look at the 60if sun king hero posts tonight. Thank you, and you're welcome. I mentioned the BNE site because there's a lot of cloning info coming out now as well as other info that seems like a freak out (crazy talk) to most people but when you do some deep research you start to let new concepts in to your thinking and belief structure. Cloning has been around since the start of the earth being 'stocked' with us humans. Yes, really. I expect to be dismissed, marginalized, laughed at, scoffed at, called names, then when the 'authorities' finally admit that it's been around as long as it has been, people will say to me "I knew it all along, you idiot !". As is the way of man. Something else, off topic, that is interesting is the story of Donald Marshall and the Cloning Centers that are hidden in the DUMB'S worldwide. His consciousness is, against his will, transported to and put into a clone of himself, where much perversion and horror takes place, all for the enjoyment of the elite of the elite. Sickening, but most probably true, just like much new info coming out right now.
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Post by bandi on May 5, 2015 20:44:21 GMT -5
I read that John Lennon went crazy back in 1966, throwing chairs, screaming and crying out. What he was allegedly pissed beyond words at was "why did Polanski introduce JPM to the Manson people"--or was it the Prophet Church crazies--and it's "all his fault" (Roman Polanski).
What he didn't say was what Polanski did exactly. It led me to believe that there was something to it, that maybe, just maybe, JPM was murdered in a sacrifice by either Manson or Prophet Church people.
There's something there, I think. Not sure what, but it should be discussed.
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Post by bandi on May 5, 2015 20:34:24 GMT -5
Is there a way to dig up old posts from years ago ? I'd like to reread any posts from someone who posted a handful of times years ago.
His forum name was Big GM. He didn't stay around long, and I think he may have deleted his own posts ? Whispers were that he was George Martin.
The same goes for posts from Apollo C Vermouth. He had some dandy posts way back when. It was thought he was Neil Aspinall. Is there any way to unearth either of their writings ? I think I remember you saying that you had some private PM's from ACV. Is there any way you'd consider sharing them ?
Thank you kindly jojo.
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Post by bandi on May 5, 2015 20:27:38 GMT -5
kopenhagen,
I don't think there is more than a couple of people on this planet who know where the guy is buried. Or if he's even really dead. Or, if he ever really existed in the first place.
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