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Post by Red Lion on Mar 9, 2024 2:15:49 GMT -5
Thin nose… Bill…
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Post by Red Lion on Dec 19, 2023 21:46:25 GMT -5
Cool… At the top a sun with eyes, we’ve definitely seen that before… a chronology of sorts with Beatles/McCartney albums… Could number 13 possibly be Abbey Road? And not let it be? The black shaded areas on eight and nine would have to be a Bill thing I think… the half shaded red area on number 10 next to it is peculiar… a large and small picture of a beetle piggybacking another beetle?… Something is definitely been conveyed here… Where is Jarv?
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Post by Red Lion on Oct 19, 2023 13:35:33 GMT -5
No… I think you actually have a really good point with that…good catch….
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Post by Red Lion on Oct 18, 2023 21:08:18 GMT -5
“Hair = heir” exactly what ACV said…
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Post by Red Lion on Sept 17, 2023 22:43:02 GMT -5
Antagonist to victim in just two posts….impressive! An entity being tortured to death to the point of suicide and/or constantly begging for death is not a bout being a “victim,” it’s just cruelty. I am baffled by how inhumane and cruel you really are. I don’t understand torturing something to this point at all. You are really fucked up whatever you are. And if you are going to attempt to kill me (if that’s what that was supposed to be), next time make sure the rock goes through the window and actually kills me please. Stop dragging it out. Sorry you find it amusing to harm someone so badly. Buh bye…..
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Post by Red Lion on Sept 16, 2023 23:58:07 GMT -5
I don’t want to be harmed anymore. I can’t do this anymore. I don’t want to be harmed or bullied anymore. Please stop. Antagonist to victim in just two posts….impressive!
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Post by Red Lion on Sept 5, 2023 15:50:08 GMT -5
So LS is contradicting himself… the October 5th dying in the bathroom thing sounded too weird anyways…
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 25, 2023 22:17:52 GMT -5
Money is the obvious answer… But who knows… But why all the mystery? How’s it different from, say, the story of Jimi Hendrix who allegedly was killed for money? Jimi was and still is an iconic figure in his own right but no one talks in riddles about him or asks us to look for answers on an album cover (not trying to be captain obvious here, I know these questions have been asked for ages, just thinking aloud). I can’t help thinking there’s a whole different dimension to it when I revisit Apollo’s post such as these: “I say, the truth is hidden in plain sight. Every piece of the puzzle, in one box. To understand that is to understand the length, width, and depth of what you wish to uncover. Eschew obsfucation! “ “ The story unfolds before your eyes and ears for those that connect the dots. Many of you see things that are not there. Much energy spent on ghosts that fail to materialize. Questions asked that lay unanswered which will add a crucial piece of the puzzle. Too many people doing too many things to notice the key that lies at your feet. Get back to the basics. Tread old ground, for there are truly Flowers In The Dirt. “ He kept hinting it’s in plain sight. He said “many have actually hit the mark” so this shows it’s perfectly solvable (thought I’d like to see at least one of these “many”). More so, Liam Steen has said that “Paul’s fate is simpler than a lot of people think but the clues are way more deeply developed”. Does it imply that Paul’s fate is just the starting point of this magical mystery tour? That’s it’s something bigger than that? I guess so. I just don’t get what we’re missing (again, just thinking aloud). “ Too many people doing too many things to notice the key that lies at your feet.” I mean… yeah 🥵 I agree that Paul’s fate was simpler than most think… And the clues way more complex than they needed to be… Perhaps that’s the only way they could do it… I remember Apollo saying “you’ve been jacked off since day one“… Lol
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 25, 2023 8:11:58 GMT -5
Money is the obvious answer… But who knows…
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 23, 2023 22:18:02 GMT -5
RedLion 41 years ago, the history was preordained. As nature intended. Nobody was to step outside the dotted lines. The plan, to deny. Keeps things on a level playing ground. "Nope, never happened." But, what about this and that? "Sorry mate, never happened." Dig? The same went for those behind the curtain, as well. We cannot stop those that see beyond the illusion. Kinda falls in line with the game plan. I've stated that there are those things which I must keep close to me chest. If one was to discover these "things" without the help of those that remain silent, a greater truth is to be found. I have, with you, stepped outside and trampled the flowers in the dirt. Slowly, another story comes to light. This is YOUR story. The true story will never be told. It is to be discovered. And when you finally are at peace wth your discovery, expect none to "fess up" and authenticate. It is not in our plans. Apollo It’s definitely worth considering whether this was a nefarious replacement or not… Was JPM was a piece that was removed from the board, or did he just bow out. Quite a conundrum if no one will ever confirm…
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 21, 2023 20:40:32 GMT -5
Theory/argument, however you prefer to term it, you posted pictures of the same guy. If you see it differently, that’s fine. I posted my two cents on what I observed, no need for any further reasoning. Good luck to you!
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 21, 2023 2:36:03 GMT -5
Been on these forums since 2003…have seen theories like this countless times…they never end up holding any water…if you buy what you are posting ….have fun then…
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 20, 2023 17:55:55 GMT -5
Same dude….
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 16, 2023 22:05:54 GMT -5
With regard to part three…
RedLion
Understand, depending on your point of entry, you may not like what you find.
Clues, references, lyrics, photos, all prior to Sgt.Pepper are moot.
Public awareness of PID rumours occurred late 1969. Only from working backwards did a story come to light.
In May of '69, Terry Knight released a 45 rpm titled "St Paul." It predates the rumours by several months. Oddest yet, it was owned by Maclen Music, John and Pauls private publishing company. It remains the only non-Lennon/McCartney song in the collection.
Terry Knight, hoping to to be signed by Apple Records, met with Macca just prior to this release.
Sour grapes?
Or, a spark to light the fire?
The lads always denied the rumours, or stated that the "clues" were all wrong, or "a load of OLD rubbish."
Yet, to present day, they have done little to let the mystery die. "Clues" continue to be given despite the loss of Lennon and Harrison.
So, choose your rabbit hole carefully.
There are two disinct points of entry.
Do not confuse the two.
Apollo
P.S.
William was indeed the honoured guest.
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 15, 2023 17:32:49 GMT -5
That is a great question Ramone!… In the first chapter of his manuscript, Liam states that he might be hypothesizing or ad libbing a bit…. Although it might be a bit odd that he would do such a thing with regard to whether Paul was alive or not… Just thinking out loud…
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 7, 2023 21:30:15 GMT -5
Thx cay…. I read the first two chapters, which was all I could find… It’s interesting… Kind of reminds me of a fleshed out version of the 60 if “document” with some things changed around… he probably has at least some of the story, correct… Funny that he mentions ACV is actually Neil… biggest difference is obviously that Liam says JPM died, while ACV was pretty adamant about JPM living on and that the rest of the band was not quite amused with his “holiday“…
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 3, 2023 21:48:53 GMT -5
Awesome! Thank you for the share!… What does he mean by manuscript?
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 3, 2023 0:03:54 GMT -5
That’s interesting, I’ve looked up “Liam Steen”s YouTube channel and there’s a comment there by someone called kennymilne6817. I thought the name sounded familiar and then I remembered I came across him (?) on a few PID channels a couple times . Now I have my doubts about Silly Willy Shepherd’s one but the comments by “Kenny” caught my eye. Apparently, he’s someone who helped “Liam” with his online book and he also claims he’s friends with William. Some of the things he says in the comments: “If you mean William, then he is William Shears from London as far as I know. He was well known on the London scene before he took role of Paul. Friends with the Floyd, Barrett etc. The whole Stanshall thing is like all of this mystery. Most of it untrue with a sprinkling of fact. In Memoirs, the author claims he created Stanshall and Ackrill. They were real people. However, Stanshall was a good friend of William from their London club days of early/mid 60s so could they have swapped identities briefly to gauge reaction? Same with Ackrill. He is first person you see in MMT. Why? I have seen a "Paul" photo that's clearly Ackrill in disguise. Again, a brief cameo? That I have to say is my own opinion as I haven't discussed it with anyone in the know. I will reveal that I was told by a UK musician from the 60s that JPM went "underground to write". He was still under contract to the Beatles so helped out in private. It was though William in public and on record. It's a crazy situation which no-one seems to have all the pieces of the jigsaw. I did get told recently that the whole McCartney mystery will be revealed at some point in the future in the form of a documentary. That would be worth watching. The guy who is Sir Paul McCartney was previously William (Billy) Shears. Campbell is a name on his Mothers side of the family and Shepherd isn't associated with William at all. Bill was someone who was given an amazing opportunity by Paul himself. He is a very articulate and friendly guy. Different personality from Paul, but his two great passions are music and family. Doubles were used, particularly for Paul due to illness ,but only he was replaced,and by his own request. Liam is a good friend of mine. I helped him out. It's his story. He put it out there which put great pressure on himself and his family. Foster and Williams (and others who benefit financially from made up nonsense) were quick to get their followers on the attack. Liam also got into trouble with the industry, as he basically broke an NDA with some of his revelations, particularly with some videos he out out at that time. I'm not denying I was pushing Liam's story a few years back. You may class it as a fairytale but that's what happened to Liam. He got a phone call from Epstein on 5th October 66 to say Paul's heart had stopped and he collapsed in the bathroom and died. Now Liam is first to say he wasn't actually there when it happened but this is his story. Nothing unusual about Liam joining a pid site, he did after all set up his own Facebook PID site. As for uharriet, I don't know anything about him apart from involvement in the Memoirs which is nonsense. I helped Liam put it out through sending previews to PID and music sites. Believe me, Liam does not need money. He has way more than enough!!! It was always about getting his story out there. In many years gone by, there have been several prominent names putting out info, especially the old pro boards a couple of decades ago. It's the only way they can do it.” I wonder who these people are… Fascinating….two things stand out for me….”underground to write” definitely resonates….”The guy who is Sir Paul McCartney was previously William (Billy) Shears. Campbell is a name on his Mothers side of the family and Shepherd isn't associated with William at all.”…….reminds me of the response ACV gave when I inquired about Bill Shepherd…. “The “Bill” you see is not the “Bill” we are discussing” I believe were his words…..FWIW He called Shepherd the genesis of the replacements more heard than seen…
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Post by Red Lion on Jul 26, 2023 10:33:19 GMT -5
I don’t know… I tried contacting him again, but was unsuccessful… Which year did he say it? Might be able to narrow it down to sometime afterward…Also, may have never gotten into production, but if it did perhaps we could figure it out.
2007ish
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Post by Red Lion on Jul 26, 2023 1:07:59 GMT -5
I don’t know… I tried contacting him again, but was unsuccessful…
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Post by Red Lion on Jul 25, 2023 17:47:52 GMT -5
Since wings was brought up, here’s something he DM’d me years ago…
“I'm working on a television project that will incorporate the McCartney mystery. It's a work of fiction (it would have to be to get it on television), but it will definitely have elements of the truth in it. In other words, it won't be the same tired "Paul is dead" story, but more along the lines of the direction those of us in the private sections of the board have been headed these last couple of years.
It's amazing how many older people in the entertainment industry who were there in the '60s seem to know something about this. I've gotten more winks and cryptic comments about this than I would have known
Obviously, I need you to keep the above to yourself. However, those same people have passed some information to me and I wanted to pass that along so that you could look into it.
There's an analogy to be found in many albums about space travel, specifically living on Mars. It's a repeating meme found in a great deal of Wings material, Klaatu (obviously), and solo McCartney (although to a lesser extent). It's definitely an allusion about Paul going into hiding, and the idea of retreating to a barren planet seems to be a fantasy Sir Paul goes to often (the song Heather on Driving Rain, for example).
Venus and Mars is an important album in this regard, at least for both the title track and the reprise halfway through the record. Much like Chaos and Creation is a wink to two Pauls, so is the name Venus and Mars. Each version of the title track is about one of them and their lives at the time the album was recorded.
The Mars thing makes me wonder if it's a clue of what the terrain looks like of wherever Paul went to. You'd think desert, but the numerous garden clues can't be ignored either. An oasis, perhaps? I don't have the answer.
Klaatu? There's a Paul involved there as a secret member of the group, although I'm not sure if he was present for all five albums. My best guess is"Pepper Paul," the mustached guy the Beatles used in the interim until they found Sir Paul, although it could very well be JPM in the group. Either way, whomever it was obviously couldn't go public when Long, Draper, and Woloschuk did.
The Klaatu sun represents Paul. In fact, "Sun" is one of the many names they coined to refer to Paul. Any reference to the sun in Beatles lyrics post-Revolver should be a red flag. It was probably derived from JPM's Beatles For Sale song, and you should do as it says... follow the sun.”
The last few sentences about the “sun“ has always had me intrigued. “Sitting in an English garden, waiting for the sun, if the sun don’t come, you get a tan from standing in the English rain“… “Sun King”… “Well, the rain exploded with a mighty crash as we fell into the sun, and the first one said to the second one there I hope you’re having fun”… Hmmmmm….
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Post by Red Lion on Jul 25, 2023 11:39:11 GMT -5
Perhaps presenting clues and such was a way of coping by letting people in on the gig without actually saying anything and then denying if confronted. Apollo stated (I’d have to find) there was an absence which could not be admitted by the replacement or absentee, and obviously the band and entourage as well.
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Post by Red Lion on Jul 25, 2023 3:40:33 GMT -5
Not to derail this thread but …
RL
Glad to see you're aboard.
There was not much desire for Paul to return. The reasons being, well...the reason he left in the first place. Plus, with the cast in place, he could afford more time to come 'round if he chose. Paul was never totally out of sight. In fact, he managed to play a part in most of the behind the scenes part of running the Beatles.
Apollo
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Post by Red Lion on Feb 16, 2023 20:15:47 GMT -5
Sad to hear ….Bob was great guy…
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Post by Red Lion on Dec 19, 2022 13:35:35 GMT -5
Great to hear Jojo… Love you buddy!
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