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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 8, 2006 2:34:54 GMT -5
Try this:
Harrison was sick of FAUL getting all the credit (& money) for the endless stable of ghostwriters & session musicians; and felt justified in bringing in Clapton as his collaborator.
This went on past Guitar/Weeps...
Clapton worked on Something -- Harrison's only BEATLES A-side; which quite a lucrative piece of real estate. It is acknowledged Something was "written at Clapton's"
Clapton also collaborated on Here COmes the Sun -- it is even admitted part of the tune is lifted from the Harrison(pseudonymous)/Clapton Cream single Badge.
After several decades, it is now admitted Clapton also played on All Things Must Pass triple-LP
So, after the Concert for Bangladesh in 1971, Harrison is subject to several death threats.
Harrison doesn't dare take to the stage again until 1974. As a security precaution, Clapton made up to look like Harrison, plays some of the dates. Any assassasins couldn't be sure who they were killing. Surely a disaster if they killed Clapton.
They successfully complete the tour, but afterwards the secret services set upon Clapton, breaking his nose and fingers to make sure it never happens again.
As a result, Clapton gets a new look and a "slow hand." Harrison retreats from the public.
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Post by beatlies on Mar 8, 2006 6:56:19 GMT -5
What do you mean by assassins? George was musician/actor for the covert government and was in no position to defy them by himself creating and using people to play his own double in order to evade (presumably MI6/CIA) killers. Eric Clapton playing the role of George, as his double, using make-up and/or plastic surgery, must have been orchestrated as part of a government directive and arrangement. It is possible Eric may have volunteered for this. The whole situation is totalitarian and Kafkaesque. Wasn't slavery abolished?
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 8, 2006 11:30:21 GMT -5
What do you mean by assassins? George was musician/actor for the covert government Waaaay too simplistic. Never forget we are talking about real people with their own thoughts and ideas. It's not like Harrison ever sent in a resume to MI6. And even real spies have been known to find themselves under fire from their superiors and/or other factions in their own agency. Being filthy rich, he was certainly in a position to try. ------------------------------------- C'mon folks, is that the best you've got? I want to see this crazy idea ripped shreds. Let's go, people! |
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Post by beatlies on Mar 8, 2006 11:49:57 GMT -5
What do you mean by assassins? George was musician/actor for the covert government Waaaay too simplistic. Never forget we are talking about real people with their own thoughts and ideas. It's not like Harrison ever sent in a resume to MI6. And even real spies have been known to find themselves under fire from their superiors and/or other factions in their own agency. Being filthy rich, he was certainly in a position to try. ------------------------------------- C'mon folks, is that the best you've got? I want to see this crazy idea ripped shreds. Let's go, people! You mean basic logic and reality? No, it's just the best there is. Why would someone (who?) want to kill George? You should state what you think the motive is and what George would be concerned about. Anyway they were all contract drones of the government and had little room to maneuver aside from the weird clues. Eric Clapton was replaced long before the mid-1970s. He may have been a double for George as early as 1967. It's interesting to watch the "Rock and Roll Circus" TV show with John and Yoko and the Rolling Stones (never shown on TV). One scene has John performing on stage with an Eric Clapton playing guitar George look-alike on his left and a Keith Richard playing guitar George look-alike on his right and a drummer who looks like George ! It's John Lennon and three George clones. Above them is Yoko Ono in the stage balcony like she is a marioneteer. |
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 8, 2006 13:05:37 GMT -5
Why would someone (who?) want to kill George?
Same reason someone would want to kill JPM. As a BEATLE he was a mind-boggingly powerful world figure. The best way to control what somebody is making them dead. Are you not aware of the mk-zombie who was sicced upon Harrison in the late 90s, and the suspicious cancer that followed when that diodn't get the job done?
You should state what you think the motive is
Do I have to repeat myself? Please read more closely. He started getting involved in world affairs: a no-no.
they were all contract drones of the government
Really? When did Harrison sign a government drone contract?
Eric Clapton was replaced long before the mid-1970s.
When? Date please.
He may have been a double for George as early as 1967.
He may have played "George" in a photoshoot in 1967, yes. That just makes the scenario outlined above all the more credible.
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Post by DarkHorse on Mar 8, 2006 13:52:48 GMT -5
Regarding Eric Clapton being replaced, I think that happened some time after Derek and The Dominoes which would have been 1973 or later.
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Post by noodles on Mar 8, 2006 14:24:28 GMT -5
Eric Clapton was replaced long before the mid-1970s. He may have been a double for George as early as 1967. It's interesting to watch the "Rock and Roll Circus" TV show with John and Yoko and the Rolling Stones (never shown on TV). One scene has John performing on stage with an Eric Clapton playing guitar George look-alike on his left and a Keith Richard playing guitar George look-alike on his right and a drummer who looks like George ! It's John Lennon and three George clones. Above them is Yoko Ono in the stage balcony like she is a marioneteer. I have the 'Best Of Cream' sat in front of me right now. Jack Bruce and Eric Clapton look almost identical on the back sleeve. They look like clones with different haircuts. It's odd. |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 8, 2006 16:22:09 GMT -5
Now is this just another "turd" being flung at us? Or what?
There was never a "Feric" ,it was Eric, Eric as George, and then he broke his nose and developed slowhand? And George was systematically killed off with cancer, similar to Bob Marley? Hmmmm
I'm curious will there ever be a Sir Eric?
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 8, 2006 21:05:29 GMT -5
Now is this just another "turd" being flung at us? Or what?
It's a friggin GEM tossed at you . Be grateful.
There was never a "Feric" ,it was Eric, Eric as George, and then he broke
Someone else broke it for him.
his nose
and fingers -- read before thinking, people.
I'm curious will there ever be a Sir Eric?
I think it was last year Clapton received CBE, I think it was, some kind of royal honors b/w MBE and full knighthood.
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 8, 2006 23:23:18 GMT -5
About All Things Must Pass -- www.jpgr.co.uk/stch639.htmlAlthough Clapton's work went uncredited on U.K. editions of the boxed set for contractual reasons, his name did appear on the U.S. version and is rightfully restored worldwide on the anniversary edition C.D. The other point of interest with Eric is that "All Things Must Pass" has the recording debut of "Derek and the Dominoes", as all the group appear together (Clapton, Whitlock, Radle and Gordon). Phil Collins, who would unofficially join the band Genesis in September 1970, allegedly plays congas on "The Art Of Dying" according to Harrison's recollections thirty years later. |
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 10, 2006 9:45:50 GMT -5
Regarding Eric Clapton being replaced, I think that happened some time after Derek and The Dominoes which would have been 1973 or later. What do you think of the idea that it's the same guy, but with a different nose and crippled fingers he had to relearn guitar with? |
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Post by lili on Mar 10, 2006 13:50:15 GMT -5
I don't know DarkHorse's reason for believing this. I know that I see two different people. I'm not sure if it happened 1973 or earlier. I do know that Feric is a taller man. His face is longer & his eyes are wider apart than Eric's were. I have posted photos showing this in the Other Celebrity Replacement section. If you haven't checked out that thread before, you should now.
That is a very interesting theory, T.I.
Maybe not such a disaster after all. It would keep George's mouth shut, wouldn't it ? He was already scared to death !
The reason that "Eric"s abilities declined was because he wasn't "Eric" at all !!!
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 10, 2006 18:47:31 GMT -5
Regarding Eric Clapton being replaced, I think that happened some time after Derek and The Dominoes which would have been 1973 or later. What do you think of the idea that it's the same guy, but with a different nose and crippled fingers he had to relearn guitar with? Ah maybe now I see what your getting at TI, so he was the same guy but could never play like he used to because his fingers couldn't work like they used to? |
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Post by srimirabai on Mar 10, 2006 19:29:35 GMT -5
What is all this rubbish about assaination plots and posers? George and Eric were the best of friends(even before; during and after Patty Boyd!) There is no "fake" Clapton. Eric's "change" is a direct result of his association with George. The man we know as Eric today has evolved into a beautiful human being.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 10, 2006 22:09:47 GMT -5
TI, let me explain why I said a "turd being flung"...not that your information is that...but some of the information out there is really "out there"....like Don Knotts as Frian....Bill as Viv in 1995, etc.
I'm just concerned that some info shared is blown out of proportion.
If there was no Feric, why does the man we now look as Eric, have a longer looking face, and as Lili pointed out is taller...
So Eric Clapton had been beaten up and his face had to undergo corrective plastic surgery?
And his fingers were broken and he couldn't play guitar like he used to?
Eric and George so close they were obsessed with the same Woman, Patti Boyd.
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 10, 2006 22:54:33 GMT -5
. Eric's "change" is a direct result of his association with George. The man we know as Eric today has evolved into a beautiful human being.
So, the Mahareeshi taught Eric Clapton to shapeshift? I like my idea better.
Eric and George so close they were obsessed with the same Woman, Patti Boyd.
As I understand it, Eric's obsession started in 1971 and they were married in 1977. If Eric was replaced in 73/74, how do you explain their marriage?
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Post by lili on Mar 12, 2006 12:25:01 GMT -5
I have to research this more. However, I wouldn't be surprised it it wasn't Eric with Patty, it was Feric. What better way to totally demoralize & beat down George than to killl his friend, & then have the replacement seduce George's wife out from under him. Poor George.
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 12, 2006 12:25:10 GMT -5
So Eric Clapton had been beaten up and his face had to undergo corrective plastic surgery?
His whole face caved in, kicked like Edgar Allen POE.
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Post by lili on Mar 12, 2006 12:27:22 GMT -5
T.I., could you please tell us where you found this information. I've never read that Eric was that badly beaten  |
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 12, 2006 15:00:25 GMT -5
A man came to me on a flaming pie.
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Post by plastic paul on Mar 12, 2006 18:41:56 GMT -5
Touchee
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 12, 2006 20:07:15 GMT -5
That is so horrible, but the entire scenario is horrible.
Who kicked Edgar Allen Poe? The freemasons? They sure like their beating people's faces in...how tragic...
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Post by lili on Mar 13, 2006 12:10:01 GMT -5
I only asked because I want to keep an open mind. I hadn't before considered that Eric looked so different because he had to have cosmetic surgery.
I have to look the photos over more carefully. I'm still not convinced that T.I.'s scenario is totally accurate. I still think that the Eric of today is a bigger man than the Eric who was George's best friend.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Mar 15, 2006 0:26:12 GMT -5
IF, Eric had been badly beaten and his hands broken, why would he return to music?
Wouldn't you think he'd leave music and public life?
Still think it's Feric....
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Post by TotalInformation on Mar 15, 2006 0:52:58 GMT -5
You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave
Wouldn't you think he'd leave music and public life?
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