the other Beatles and trying to say the truth...

[thefly]

So John Lennon is the first Beatle to die, in resulting of trying to tell the truth about 'Paul McCartney'

Then did anyone ever really say about George Harrison? George was stabbed in his home, but for what reason? Was he perhaps in the midst of writing 60IF, or going to admit the truth too?

Ringo has stayed silent on it the entire time... why is that?

[B]

Fly, people have speculated as to why the intruder went after George, and why Mark David
Chapman is said to have killed John. Keeping them quiet may have been a motive.
Ringo may be keeping quiet because he doesn't want to be killed.

[mindgames]

George didn't write 60if. Why would he write something more unbelievable? Paul was replaced is unbelivable enough but a story with no built in credibility just an ever changing convaluted mystery that offers no proof or solution is not worth the risk of being murdered. But I still think the story of Christen Keller (sp) The woman that broke into George's home and was caught eating a frozen pizza is still pretty BIZARRE! Maybe she slipped into his bedroom and read his diary? And was taken out with a bullet in Truckee to silence her?

thefly said:

So John Lennon is the first Beatle to die, in resulting of trying to tell the truth about 'Paul McCartney'

Then did anyone ever really say about George Harrison? George was stabbed in his home, but for what reason? Was he perhaps in the midst of writing 60IF, or going to admit the truth too?

Ringo has stayed silent on it the entire time... why is that?

[percythrillington]

that doesn't make sense... Why would Lennon spill the beans 10YEARS after the Beatles break up? He was pissed at Paul enough in 1970/71 - early 70s to say it out loud if it was true. I am sure it would have made Yoko happy too.

And if George wanted to say it, then got stabbed but survived, he would have say it too right after the stabbing.
Also George wouldn't have participated to the Anthology/Recording thingies if he knew it wasn't legit.

[JoJo]

John was pissed off enough in 1970 to write "How Do You Sleep". That was about as plain spoken as it was gonna get, how the game is played don't you know..

John and Paul (or Faul/Bill) got along just fine a few years later when Yoko was out of the picture for a year, they were even talking about performing together if May Pang is to be believed.

Anyway, the idea that John was killed because of the Faul issue is quite speculative, if there was more to the story than the "lone nut", then the reason was not about Faul..

[percythrillington]

yes, I think that around the time when John got murdered. he had plenty on his plate, like immigration issue, new album, etc...

But then again, why would John, who put his Beatles past behind him, would consider playing with a McCartney impostor , or why would they even jam , like in 1976?

And "how do you sleep" was like vitriol, which indicates that John (and Yoko) were pretty pissed at Paul. So I don't think they would have hesitated twice if they could have hit him pretty bad.

[mommybird]

Those who believe that there is ALOT more to this than meets the eye ( myself included ) believe that John & George had to be careful what they said. They couldn't come right out & say it or those closest to them would be in jeopardy. They both danced around the issue until their deaths. The video of John & Yoko in bed from 1969 is a perfect example of this. John read, "Paul is alive" while chuckling. He seemed to find the idea that a "psychic" was telling him that Paul was alive to be very funny !

[Jude]

Percythrillington: John didn't hate Bill until he (Bill) broke up the Beatles. I could give you dozens of examples of the two getting
along just fine.

[thisone]

letterb1 said:

Fly, people have speculated as to why the intruder went after George, and why Mark David
Chapman is said to have killed John. Keeping them quiet may have been a motive.
Ringo may be keeping quiet because he doesn't want to be killed.

The George stabbing is one of the most bizarre "news stories" I have ever heard - It goes something like this. One day a bloke in a pub in Liverpool decided to go to London/Henley on Thames and stab George for reasons he doesn't know.. He doesn't know how he got there, nor do the police. Never been out of L'Pool in his life. Found George's house in Henly-on-Thames, 300 miles away, climbed over the wall, evaded ultra security measures and made his way inside and stabbed George, Olivia dis-armed him and called the Polis. He ("the attacker") is later treated for wounds and charged.

Ranks up there with a man in a cave in Afghanistan.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/583403.stm

Dec 99: Breaks into Harrison's home, attacking him and his wife
Nov 2000: Found not guilty on grounds of insanity
Nov 2000: Ordered detained "without time restriction"
July 2002: Granted conditional discharge


"My illness was missed by almost all the doctors and nurses until I was turned out of a hospital while I was still very ill". Michael Abram

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2096082.stm

[thisone]

It's that bloody "eye" thing again....and the out of proportion face and one nostril way higher than the other and the twisted jaw. FAKE FAKE FAKE.



Our English guys will know of this hoax story thats been running every day for a year about a supposed "missing girl", Madeleine. Keeps their war criminal government off the news. Jolly good show!



Ben Fairhall's excellent blog

ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/2007/08/madeleine-incorporated.html

shows us the score



The logo of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection centre. Note the similarity to Madeleine's split iris: her All-Seeing Eye...

C - Moon
C - Moon
C - Moon
is she!

[mindgames]

At the time England was experiencing a surge in crime because of the gun laws. The criminals can now do what they want without worrying about being shot. Madonna's home was also broken into.

If the chap was meant to be a David Mark Chapman then "why no" 2nd knifer aka doorman?

Wasn't George almost killed? Why is he walking free?

Kristen was mystouriously dropped off too.

It's all very wierd but will all remane a mystery.
Unless the bloke talks but if he was any kind of a threat to spill the beans he wouldn't be walking around free.

[mindgames]

uh oh, what are you onto know thisone? Whatever it is it sounds pretty damn good tell me more!!!!

thisone said:

It's that bloody "eye" thing again....and the out of proportion face and one nostril way higher than the other. FAKE FAKE FAKE."

[thisone]

mindgames said:

uh oh, what are you onto know thisone? Whatever it is it sounds pretty damn good tell me more!!!!

thisone said:

It's that bloody "eye" thing again....and the out of proportion face and one nostril way higher than the other. FAKE FAKE FAKE."

I'm not sure, I didn't believe the story of George's "stabbing" in the first instance, the "news reports" were decidedly dodgy. I just looked at the photo of that guy's boat-race and creased laughing, it's a really bad foto-fit, a composite. I thought from the outset that it was a hoax story and looking at that now makes me wonder further. Was it some elaborate ploy - a charade? For what purpose?

I bet that guy doesn't exist! Any Pudlians here who could check it?

[mindgames]

I've said this before but I believe the internet is highly censored, years ago it was a breeze to find anything on anything, now I look and I can't even find the simpliest of things. That picture looks like and old picture taken at a pub or in highschool yearbook or something, in this modern age that is the only picture flaoting around on the net? The Jawline shadow looks like it was blended to me.

From that blog link I can't tell if madeliane was a made up person or not O believe the author believes she is real and still alive. So if she is real why fake the picture?

[thisone]

It's looks to me like a composite, take two or three peoples faces from yearbooks or any source and stick them together. You got a new person. As for MMC, I am in two minds about it. She was sacrificed in a ritual or just murdered by her parents. There are some bizzare syncs, ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/2007/07/has-gerry-mccann-met-valis.html

And as a side note, your previous post mentioned the new gun-laws in the UK -- what event brought this about? Remember Dunblane? Remember Robertson? Remember the killer, a boy scout leader? Remember the Paedophile Ring stories? Something mighty fishy about that one. It led all the way to Downing St.

[horseloverphat]

this one.... the McCann case and 'micro-chipping' of children is one aspect that I've considered.

The case could end up being the best advert for such a scenario. (the symbolism involved in this case is huge....you've rightly mentioned Ben Fairhall and his excellent blog and his honed symbolic reading skills....I personally thought the parents were implicated in this as soon as I heard the story on the night....but the UK media is playing a long term game with this one.)

In regard to Harrison's stabbing.....I thought very similar to you about what happened, at the time.

The attempted hit stinks of establishment 'foul play'...imo

A man, named as Mike Abram, 33, from Huyton Liverpool, has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder following the attack on the star and his wife Olivia at their mansion in Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire early on Thursday morning.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/583403.stm

Ab-RAM.....we've been OD'ing on this recently 'The Ram & Faul' 33 the masonic degree par excellence....plus all the other aspects that connect to this number.

Beatles Connection

Huyton-with-Roby has several Beatles connections. As The Quarrymen, the Fab Four played the MPTE Social Club in Finch Lane.[1] The Beatles also played 15 times in a hall in Page Moss (Hambleton Hall, St David Road - later became a Probation Office) between January 1961 and January 1962.[2] On 21 March 1961, The Swinging Blue Jeans, fronted by Huyton-born Ray Ennis (born Raymond Vincent Ennis, 26 May 1942), introduced the Beatles to their first ever Cavern Club evening slot.[3] Paul McCartney’s auntie Jin lived in Dinas Lane. In 1963, this was the site of Paul’s eventful 21st birthday party, at which John Lennon got drunk and beat up a local DJ for intimating he was a homosexual.[4] Paul’s mother is buried at Yew Street Cemetery in Finch Lane[5] and Huyton Parish Church graveyard is the final resting place of the Beatles’ original bass guitarist, Huytonian Stuart Sutcliffe.[6] In late 1999 George Harrison survived a knife attack by an intruder in his home, which mirrored John Lennon's murder. On the evening of 30 December 1999 Michael Abram, a Huyton resident, broke into the Harrison's Friar Park home in Henley-on-Thames, and stabbed George multiple times, ultimately puncturing his lung. Harrison and his wife, Olivia, fought the intruder and detained him for the police. 35-year-old Abram (33 given everywhere else or this could be his age when this was written), who believed he was possessed by Harrison and was on a "mission from God" to kill him, was later acquitted on grounds of insanity.

WOW!!!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huyton


I'd have to say at this point that another MDC 'Chapman' springs to mind....a mind controlled zombie programmed for the hit....DID/MPD (multiple personality) aspects would factor in heavily....so he probably does exist....but who knows?


We need to establish what was going on with Abram before this all happened...was he in a mental health institution or something like it or connected to this field, possibly on 'psychotropic drugs'.... facts along those lines.

One day a bloke in a pub in Liverpool decided to go to London/Henley on Thames and stab George for reasons he doesn't know.. He doesn't know how he got there, nor do the police. Never been out of L'Pool in his life. Found George's house in Henly-on-Thames, 300 miles away, climbed over the wall, evaded ultra security measures and made his way inside and stabbed George.

Unless the bloke talks but if he was any kind of a threat to spill the beans he wouldn't be walking around free.

He wouldn't be a threat walking around...because he'll have no recollection of being programmed to do the hit...if you can programme the mind (ala manchurian candidate) you'd programme it to forget the sensitive details (as they do with programmed spies in theory etc.... programming supposedly creates amnesia walls....as does childhood sexual abuse apparently)...other than messages from 'God' or whoever, which is how Abram has explained it....something must've kicked-in his programme to carry out the attempted hit...a trigger word or code....probably something mundane A programmer/de-programmer could maybe access parts of his mind/psyche where this was done...but don't hold your breath!!!!


Hopefully the above will shed some light on this case.

It's that bloody "eye" thing again....

In my research connected to mind control/programming etc I have come across the idea that those who have been heavily programmed/tortured etc....develop a problem with the eye. I can't really tell you anymore than that....but it is a phenomena that I'm aware of through MKULTRA research.



The Dunblane case...yet another that I've traversed in recent years...the 'masonic' connections/the sequestering of info under 100 year laws/prior letters of commendation from the queen/a gun license granted/a mysterious boat used by Hamilton for what purpose and who...tie ins to the Labour party....etc etc etc

[mindgames]

I yahooed for more pics and there are 2 more pics of him I am pressed for time so perhaps someone can look them up in yahoo images. The articles with those pics give good details that I never knew about the stabbing & man who stabbed him.

I wonder if there is any Jonbenet Madelaine similarities.

[horseloverphat]

I wonder if there is any Jonbenet Madelaine similarities.

Unfortunately.....yes, too many.

[thisone]

Another giant can of worms. Great post HLP. How the hell did I miss the ram thing? Well spotted!

<SCREAMS>Will somebody please tell me WTF is going on?</SCREAMS>

Great to see open minds here! It would seem to me that; we are being toyed with on a level we never could have imagined! Imagine!

/edit

Wasn't there a child shot dead in that area recently? A small boy playing on the street or something like that?

[plastic paul]

The kid you speak of was shot in Croxteth, which isn't that near Huyton really, but both are outer suburbs of Liverpool.