Post by NIR Committee on Jun 22, 2005 21:41:58 GMT -5
Preface:
This story is the NIR's way of telling of the events of early to mid September of 1966, and what followed.
Recently, a member here met a person who was living in Liverpool at the time the events of the time were unfolding. This person gave a story that was close to what we have concluded on a number of matters, and it was told in a matter of fact and straightforward manner. This is not some "insider", although the person was closely related to someone in a communications medium. What we will be presenting is based on what this person said, and on material already discussed here.
Any details about this person must be kept private, even the member involved, because the person's privacy is of absolute importance. The person was generous, and shared some facts, it wouldn't be fair to cause this person any problems.
The Story:
Sometime around early to mid September, Paul was on his way to Liverpool with his dog Martha in his white Astin-Martin. He was involved in a single car accident, and it would seem that Paul was missing for two, perhaps three weeks, the news of an accident didn't appear until then.
The exact location is unknown, but it happened in Lancashire.
The decision to find a replacement rather than simply announce that Paul was dead was made by the Crown. They were not under any circumstances going to let the Beatles die due to how much money they were making. An agreement was made to continue until the end of the decade 1970.
There was then a look alike sound alike contest held in Liverpool, thousands showed up for it, not to be confused with the one held in the US by a teen magazine.
The winner was then taken to Africa, and had some surgery performed to perfect him. There were pictures of the winner put in the public domain at the time, and even before the surgery he looked like Paul, and there were also pictures of a bandaged up winner making the rounds at the time as well. Everyone kinda knew what was going on.. but in England there is 'duty to the crown' so everyone turned a blind eye and pretended everything was normal.
About the songs, many of the Lennon/Mccartney songs were demos, with Bill's vocals added on top, or altogether. Also, talk was going around at the time that the reason George got so heavily into eastern religion was that so he could channel Paul, so that John and George could continue to write. It may be quite true that George attempted this, explaining the visit to the Maharishi, and all the rancor that followed.
After John and George left the ashram, John of course went on to write "Sexy Sadie" (made a fool of everyone) That, and other outtakes where he used far stronger language, lead one to believe that the Maharishi promised far more than eternal peace and happiness. Perhaps they were promised direct communication with Paul's spirit, explaining John's anger, and how the Maharishi's platitudes got past John's BS detector, using this vulnerability.
Paul was cremated immediately, and his remains buried on one of the islands the Beatles purchased, and there are currently people living there.
The Magical Mystery Tour album tells the whole story, but Lucy in the Sky is the most important song on the Pepper album.
His real name is Bill btw, and he was possibly from England, but that isn't certain.
The relationship between Bill and the rest of the Beatles were mostly OK, the public infighting was just to give an excuse for a breakup. After 1970 he was supposed to release an mediocre album, become a has been and fade away at the farm in Scotland with his family.. but the media hounded him after the rumour broke and they knew he could never leave the limelight.. it became a lifelong contract.
Finally, why keep it a secret? If people knew the crown has this kind of power..not as benign as they would have everyone believe.
As for Brian, there was nothing making the rounds regarding him, although it's possible he was so devestated that there was a replacement put out there to make everything appear normal, while he stayed away in seclusion.
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Another meeting with the person from Liverpool, this is what transpired:
How long did it take the authorities to find Paul's body? How long was he missing?
Not sure.. but there was a missing time period.
What is the significance of the white Volkswagon on the White Album poster and the cover of Abbey Road?
Nothing other than the license plate, don't know of any other significance
Who was it that discovered Paul's body?
Authorities
Were there any rumors of Paul having an illegitimate child? Was he secretly married to Jane Asher?
Yes there was rumour of a little boy.
No he and Jane never married.
What is it exactly about "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" that makes it the most important song on Sgt Peppers as far as telling the story of Paul's replacement?
Lucy in the sky with Diamonds is a destination. And it's apparently a railway station, where a train will take you somewhere near a shore, then you will take a boat out to the island where Paul's ashes are in a glass urn. She knew someone who was planning on going to the station.. he dissapeared, and she is pretty sure as rumours at the time have it, that it's a commune where there is no government control.
We are curious about Fool on the Hill, were the opening lines done by George, and then Bill's voice blended in? As a matter of fact, a general question about whether there was an interim imitator, or was it just the three remaining Beatles using George Martin's wizardry until Bill was ready. In that vein, We would ask about Denny Laine, what did he do for those five years between leaving an up and coming group and joining Wings?
No knowledge about Denny Laine.. but Fool on the hill, Penny Lane, and Hello Goodbye were done by 3 different people other than Paul or Billy. It was part of the competition to record, so finalists did these recordings.. signed a contract by the crown and were paid a huge sum. Then they slowly morphed Paul's voice into Bill's over a period of time, (there were alot of demos etc..) so no-one would notice the change.
Were callboxes frequently found in England, especially Lancashire, in the 60's? If so, how abundant were they found near the roads or in random, rural places?
In abundance in the suburban areas.. in rural places they are at every Post Office and few scattered here and there.
Other things that were volunteered:
The reason they broke up was because George couldn't cope with it all. Bill wanted out, wanted to go back to his old life, so they said release a mediocore album and fade away. But it didn't happen, so he had to sign for life.. under the proviso that all 4 beatles release a certain amount of solo material to keep the money flowing until they said they could stop. Apparently John got into a lot of hot water over his refusal in the late 70's. The fights and what not were all orchestrated.
Their relationship with Bill was fine. George struggled with it, because he had known Paul practically his whole life as there families were close. John embraced him, but he went weird and started to think that Bill was actually Paul, and it freaked Bill out. After a while John started to self destruct, cause Paul was the only 'real' thing in his life. And he eventually fell apart.
There was a rumour a few weeks before he died that he and Jane had split-up.
His family and Jane and everybody involved had to sign contracts.. and were threatened.
Apparently in the late 70's Bill wanted to out himself, but John talked him out of it saying that they were watching him, and they'd kill him if he did.
Klaus Voorman may have been a passenger in the car along with Martha
This story is the NIR's way of telling of the events of early to mid September of 1966, and what followed.
Recently, a member here met a person who was living in Liverpool at the time the events of the time were unfolding. This person gave a story that was close to what we have concluded on a number of matters, and it was told in a matter of fact and straightforward manner. This is not some "insider", although the person was closely related to someone in a communications medium. What we will be presenting is based on what this person said, and on material already discussed here.
Any details about this person must be kept private, even the member involved, because the person's privacy is of absolute importance. The person was generous, and shared some facts, it wouldn't be fair to cause this person any problems.
The Story:
Sometime around early to mid September, Paul was on his way to Liverpool with his dog Martha in his white Astin-Martin. He was involved in a single car accident, and it would seem that Paul was missing for two, perhaps three weeks, the news of an accident didn't appear until then.
The exact location is unknown, but it happened in Lancashire.
The decision to find a replacement rather than simply announce that Paul was dead was made by the Crown. They were not under any circumstances going to let the Beatles die due to how much money they were making. An agreement was made to continue until the end of the decade 1970.
There was then a look alike sound alike contest held in Liverpool, thousands showed up for it, not to be confused with the one held in the US by a teen magazine.
The winner was then taken to Africa, and had some surgery performed to perfect him. There were pictures of the winner put in the public domain at the time, and even before the surgery he looked like Paul, and there were also pictures of a bandaged up winner making the rounds at the time as well. Everyone kinda knew what was going on.. but in England there is 'duty to the crown' so everyone turned a blind eye and pretended everything was normal.
About the songs, many of the Lennon/Mccartney songs were demos, with Bill's vocals added on top, or altogether. Also, talk was going around at the time that the reason George got so heavily into eastern religion was that so he could channel Paul, so that John and George could continue to write. It may be quite true that George attempted this, explaining the visit to the Maharishi, and all the rancor that followed.
After John and George left the ashram, John of course went on to write "Sexy Sadie" (made a fool of everyone) That, and other outtakes where he used far stronger language, lead one to believe that the Maharishi promised far more than eternal peace and happiness. Perhaps they were promised direct communication with Paul's spirit, explaining John's anger, and how the Maharishi's platitudes got past John's BS detector, using this vulnerability.
Paul was cremated immediately, and his remains buried on one of the islands the Beatles purchased, and there are currently people living there.
The Magical Mystery Tour album tells the whole story, but Lucy in the Sky is the most important song on the Pepper album.
His real name is Bill btw, and he was possibly from England, but that isn't certain.
The relationship between Bill and the rest of the Beatles were mostly OK, the public infighting was just to give an excuse for a breakup. After 1970 he was supposed to release an mediocre album, become a has been and fade away at the farm in Scotland with his family.. but the media hounded him after the rumour broke and they knew he could never leave the limelight.. it became a lifelong contract.
Finally, why keep it a secret? If people knew the crown has this kind of power..not as benign as they would have everyone believe.
As for Brian, there was nothing making the rounds regarding him, although it's possible he was so devestated that there was a replacement put out there to make everything appear normal, while he stayed away in seclusion.
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Another meeting with the person from Liverpool, this is what transpired:
How long did it take the authorities to find Paul's body? How long was he missing?
Not sure.. but there was a missing time period.
What is the significance of the white Volkswagon on the White Album poster and the cover of Abbey Road?
Nothing other than the license plate, don't know of any other significance
Who was it that discovered Paul's body?
Authorities
Were there any rumors of Paul having an illegitimate child? Was he secretly married to Jane Asher?
Yes there was rumour of a little boy.
No he and Jane never married.
What is it exactly about "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" that makes it the most important song on Sgt Peppers as far as telling the story of Paul's replacement?
Lucy in the sky with Diamonds is a destination. And it's apparently a railway station, where a train will take you somewhere near a shore, then you will take a boat out to the island where Paul's ashes are in a glass urn. She knew someone who was planning on going to the station.. he dissapeared, and she is pretty sure as rumours at the time have it, that it's a commune where there is no government control.
We are curious about Fool on the Hill, were the opening lines done by George, and then Bill's voice blended in? As a matter of fact, a general question about whether there was an interim imitator, or was it just the three remaining Beatles using George Martin's wizardry until Bill was ready. In that vein, We would ask about Denny Laine, what did he do for those five years between leaving an up and coming group and joining Wings?
No knowledge about Denny Laine.. but Fool on the hill, Penny Lane, and Hello Goodbye were done by 3 different people other than Paul or Billy. It was part of the competition to record, so finalists did these recordings.. signed a contract by the crown and were paid a huge sum. Then they slowly morphed Paul's voice into Bill's over a period of time, (there were alot of demos etc..) so no-one would notice the change.
Were callboxes frequently found in England, especially Lancashire, in the 60's? If so, how abundant were they found near the roads or in random, rural places?
In abundance in the suburban areas.. in rural places they are at every Post Office and few scattered here and there.
Other things that were volunteered:
The reason they broke up was because George couldn't cope with it all. Bill wanted out, wanted to go back to his old life, so they said release a mediocore album and fade away. But it didn't happen, so he had to sign for life.. under the proviso that all 4 beatles release a certain amount of solo material to keep the money flowing until they said they could stop. Apparently John got into a lot of hot water over his refusal in the late 70's. The fights and what not were all orchestrated.
Their relationship with Bill was fine. George struggled with it, because he had known Paul practically his whole life as there families were close. John embraced him, but he went weird and started to think that Bill was actually Paul, and it freaked Bill out. After a while John started to self destruct, cause Paul was the only 'real' thing in his life. And he eventually fell apart.
There was a rumour a few weeks before he died that he and Jane had split-up.
His family and Jane and everybody involved had to sign contracts.. and were threatened.
Apparently in the late 70's Bill wanted to out himself, but John talked him out of it saying that they were watching him, and they'd kill him if he did.
Klaus Voorman may have been a passenger in the car along with Martha