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Post by beatlies on Oct 21, 2006 6:59:06 GMT -5
The talk now is of the mysterious, obscure musician Phil Ackrill of Denny Laine and the Diplomats, a 1964 group, being the identity of the man who became JPM's imposter Faul, who has been referred to as "Bill" or Bill Shepherd/Sheppard/Shears.
It is said he "retired from the music scene" in 1964: why and what did he then do for a job? Was he in Billy and the Pepperpots?
Further, what is his real age and is Phil Ackrill his real name? I keep thinking of the fact that walruses eat krill, they eat their phill of krill.
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Post by JoJo on Oct 21, 2006 11:18:11 GMT -5
Wish I could read Russian: LINKFound a pic of The Diplomats I haven't seen yet: I'm guessing that the guy on the lower left is Phil, with Denny at the rear, and Bev Beven on the right. The evidence so far points to the Pepperpots being a creation of Lou Reed and his co-workers at the Pickwick musical "sweat shop". That's not to say that they still don't warrant further investigation, they weren't just a bunch of fly by night studio musicians, especially as you move forward in time..
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Post by beatlies on Oct 30, 2006 18:05:38 GMT -5
TKIN said that Phil Ackrill's real name might be "Ralston." Is that just another pseudonym?
So it would go: the person known as "Ralston/Ackrill "drops out of the music scene in 1964, before the Diplomats release a record. He then records as a singer/guitarist with Billy and the Pepperpots. At this time, he is doubling as the fake identity "Neil Aspinall" (Feil Faspinall).
He (Feil-Ackrill) then replaces Brian Epstein, and becomes Frian. Feil gets replaced by Feil2.
With me so far? Now we have Ackrill-Frian, who doubles as a Pepperpot, honing his musical skills, and Feil2.
Now it is 1965. Ringo gets replaced by Fingo. So we have Fingo, Frian, and Feil2, JPM, John Lennon and George Harrison.
Now it is 1966. JPM gets replaced by Ackrill-Frian, who gets replaced by Frian2, who is Don Knotts. Fingo gets replaced by Fingo2, who may be a fake-death "living there still" Tara Browne. John and/or George PROBABLY do not get replaced but start using doubles, like JPM did.
This is the holding pattern through to 1970.
Faul (the former Frian, Ackrill) Frian2 (Don Knotts, wiped off the board in August 1967) Fingo2 Feil2 John George Chumley the walrus
Charlie Manson Charlie Brill Ronald Reagan Richard M. Nixon
Thank you.
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Post by The Duke of Spiders on Oct 31, 2006 7:01:22 GMT -5
That's almost the silliest thing I've ever heard.
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Post by lili on Oct 31, 2006 8:04:11 GMT -5
Oh, great. Now I have a headache ! ;D
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Post by beatlies on Oct 31, 2006 8:26:42 GMT -5
Oh, great. Now I have a headache ! ;D Why? No one you can be that you can't learn how to be you in time. It's easy: Phil Ralston/Ackrill -->Feil and Billy Pepper -->Frian -->Faul >New Man Feil2 >New Man Frian2 (Knotts for a period of less than a year in 1967) Ringo -----------> Rep By Fingo ------------->Rep By Fingo2 (Tara Browne?) Pete Best openly replaced by Ringo early as they fine-tuned the group chemistry. The Beatles = A state-created and managed shell game.
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Post by lili on Oct 31, 2006 13:32:29 GMT -5
I still believe that if the boys were being used, it was without their knowledge. At least in the beginning. I think the long faces that they wore in the Rain & Paperback Writer videos show that bad things were happening at the time. Things that they found very disturbing.
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Post by That Latvian Guy on Oct 31, 2006 13:48:33 GMT -5
Wish I could read Russian: LINKYou know what, I know Russian, maybe I can translate it to you...
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Post by JoJo on Oct 31, 2006 15:33:46 GMT -5
Wish I could read Russian: LINKYou know what, I know Russian, maybe I can translate it to you... Well, there's a lot, perhaps you coukld read it over and try to note if there is anything that hasn't been discussed yet.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Nov 1, 2006 21:21:07 GMT -5
The significance of knowing Russian?
The Russian Fab Four Stalin Lenin Kruschev Brezhnev
Who was the Walrus?
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Post by jerriwillmore on Nov 1, 2006 21:35:54 GMT -5
I don't think Phil Ackrill replaced Paul.
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Post by beatlies on Nov 1, 2006 21:38:54 GMT -5
The significance of knowing Russian? Who was the Walrus? Russia has Pacific walruses (Odobenus ROSEMARYrosmarus divergens) and Laptev Sea walruses; Western Europe and Greenland, Canada have Atlantic walruses. These are the three subspecies of walruses. I'm learnin' lots about walruses.
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Nov 1, 2006 21:54:27 GMT -5
Yeah, but walrus's don't usually go as far south as the British islands. They furthest south they usually migrate to is around the Arctic circle. On very rare occasions one might wander as far south as the Shetney and Orkney islands of Scotland. Harbor Seals are much more common around the British isles.
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Post by beatlies on Nov 1, 2006 22:04:50 GMT -5
Yeah, but walrus's don't usually go as far south as the British islands. They furthest south they usually migrate to is around the Arctic circle. On very rare occasions one might wander as far south as the Shetney and Orkney islands of Scotland. Harbor Seals are much more common around the British isles. They're on the far nothern Norwegian coast at times. Three subspecies: Odobenus rosmarus divergens (Russia, Alaska) Odobenus rosmarus laptevi (Russia) Odobenus rosmarus rosmarus (Russia, Canada, Alaska, Iceland (rarely), Norway (rarely), Greenland (still a Danish colony, unbelievably enough, with radiation-poisoning U.S. military bases) etc.) "Bluebird" mind control operations have come up before here in relation to Faul, Shirley Temple, the Beatles etc. The CIA chief of "Project BLUEBIRD" was named Morse (=Walrus in French) Allen. Just one of those walrus possibilities that hasn't been mentioned yet. The "Glennon" character in the Batman #222 comics, it turns out, has the real name "Chumley" as in the walrus.
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Post by beatlies on Dec 2, 2006 7:29:11 GMT -5
Denny and the Diplomats, including Phil Ackrill/Phil Ralston, Bev Bevan and Denny Laine are from Birmingham. This reminded me of the Sex Pistols song from their much praised, top-selling album ---
She was a girl from Birmingham She just had an abortion She was a case of insanity Her name was Pauline she lived in a tree She was a no one who killed her baby She sent her letters from the country She was an animal she was a bloody disgrase
Body I'm not an animal Body I'm not an animal
Dragged on a table in factory Illegitimate place to be In a packet in a lavatory Die little baby screaming fucking bloody mess It's not an animal it's an abortion
Body I'm not animal Mummy I'm not an abortion
Throbbing squirm, gurgling bloody mess I'm not a discharge, I'm not a loss in Protein, Im not a throbbing squirm
Fuck this and fuck that fuck it all and Fuck the fucking brat She don't wanna baby that looks like that I don't wanna baby that looks like that Body I'm not an animal Body I'm not an abortion
Body I'm not an animal An animal I'm not an animal... I'm not an abortion...
Mummy! ugh!
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Post by fourthousandholes on Dec 2, 2006 12:54:57 GMT -5
beatlies wrote: "She was a girl from BirminghamShe just had an abortion She was a case of insanity Her name was Pauline she lived in a tree She was a no one who killed her baby She sent her letters from the country She was an animal she was a bloody disgrase "No one I think is in my tree I mean it must be high or low She was a working girl North of England way en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BirminghamAnd just to add to the confusion:60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1125613634&page=2Post #40 BeatlePaul writes: "So Sbaglioncino is Alan Jones. [No explanation given, of course]He was with The Blackfoot Sue until 1977. Then he left strangely the music world. Who is called today Alan Jones could be another man.... A note: he is from Birmingham. [Emphasis mine]A doubles nursery? " [Again, no reason given]
I believe that TKIN and Rev9 are given insider information by somebody in the know, which they try to leak out in their posts, so this may be worthy of investigation. For instance, is "Honey Pie" Alan Jones? (And who is Alan Jones?) And is Birmingham a "doubles factory"? I think quite a bit of useful information has been posted at TKIN that's been lost in the translation, unfortunately.SO (in the spirit of BeatlePaul) Pauline from Birmingham who was "Honey Pie" came in through the bathroom window!Speaking of BeatlePaul, Phil looks a bit like Ringo here, imo, for what it's worth. A possible "Fringo" candidate? I know many here don't believe in a Fringo, but if there was one.... Then again, maybe it's just how he looks in that picture. He might look nothing like Ringo.
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Post by That Latvian Guy on Dec 2, 2006 14:31:59 GMT -5
The significance of knowing Russian? The Russian Fab Four Stalin Lenin Kruschev Brezhnev Who was the Walrus? It was Lenin! Here's the proof! A frame from the "Magical Communist Tour". P.S. Да здраствует The Communists! Vladimir Lennon Josif McStalin Leonid Brezhnevisson Nik Khrush
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Post by lili on Dec 2, 2006 15:38:27 GMT -5
4000 posted: I don't know about that. For all we know, they're being taken on a "wild ride" and they're falling for it "hook, line & sinker " !
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Post by beatlies on Dec 24, 2006 21:34:45 GMT -5
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Post by lili on Dec 25, 2006 4:04:07 GMT -5
I see the differences also !
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Dec 25, 2006 11:07:03 GMT -5
The significance of knowing Russian? The Russian Fab Four Stalin Lenin Kruschev Brezhnev Who was the Walrus? It was Lenin! Here's the proof! A frame from the "Magical Communist Tour". P.S. Да здраствует The Communists! Vladimir Lennon Josif McStalin Leonid Brezhnevisson Nik Khrush I suspected Lenin was the "artist" of the bunch! His wife was named "Mamushka" but most of them knew her as Yoko.
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Post by beatlies on Dec 25, 2006 19:52:37 GMT -5
Phil went from playing Neil Asp-in-all to playing Brian Epstein to impostering James Paul McCartney, with side roles in the Diplomats and Pepperpots.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Dec 25, 2006 20:57:48 GMT -5
Well if that's the case, he's the "Everybody" Man, like Vivian Stanshell and Charlie Brill
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Post by guitargaz on Dec 25, 2006 22:04:05 GMT -5
The evidence so far points to the Pepperpots being a creation of Lou Reed and his co-workers at the Pickwick musical "sweat shop". That's not to say that they still don't warrant further investigation, they weren't just a bunch of fly by night studio musicians, especially as you move forward in time..
Have you not read any of my posts about my father Bill Shepherd? I'd like to see what this "evidence" is - other than a fabrication of your imagination. Lou Reed was nothing to do with it - the original songs were by Bill Shepherd and Jimmy Fraser and it is them singing. And the songs are pretty awful as my dad admitted. I find it sad at times that posters talk with such assurance without any "evidence" at all. It really does de-value the seriousness of what you are claiming. I have no axe to grind - believe what you want - excuse my frustration when you talk with such assurance about a subject which, in this case, you have absolutely no idea about.
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Post by DarkHorse on Dec 25, 2006 22:34:27 GMT -5
I understand your frustration GG. I would not be surprised if everything you have said is 100% true.
But you have to admit that it is a big coincidence that the Beatles named their album Sgt. Pepper and that the character mentioned in the song is named Billy Shears. Billy...and Pepper, coincidence?
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