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Post by jerriwillmore on Mar 8, 2004 15:43:21 GMT -5
I read in several Beatle books it took place in LATE 1966. I think Paul said so himself, but I'm not sure...that's the official reason he got the "pepper" mustache I think. My guess is he fell off of it twice! ;D
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Post by DarkHorse on Mar 8, 2004 19:18:10 GMT -5
Wasn't this the accident that chipped his tooth? If so, you can see his tooth was chipped in the Paperback Writer and Rain videos which were made early or mid 1966....
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Post by eyesbleed on Mar 8, 2004 22:40:54 GMT -5
Hey check it out.... xpt posted the moped pic on the other thread, so I thought I'd try putting the original image against my take on it..... Cool, huh...
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Post by xpt626 on Mar 8, 2004 22:52:43 GMT -5
awesome, Eyesbleed....I never thought of putting the two of them side-by-side JerriWilmore, to answer your question, it appears the accident was late '65...considering the amount of time it would take to make it to press in a fan mag. And the "May" issue, which this appeared in, would've been out much earlier than May.
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Post by lj on Mar 10, 2004 19:20:29 GMT -5
this goes to show your awesome talent, eyesbleed
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Post by linus on Oct 17, 2012 2:01:04 GMT -5
Awesome painting, Eyesbleed!
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Post by maxwell on Oct 17, 2012 19:17:29 GMT -5
Wasn't this the accident that chipped his tooth? If so, you can see his tooth was chipped in the Paperback Writer and Rain videos which were made early or mid 1966.... According to McCartney's biography, he chipped his tooth (and split his lip) on Sunday, 26th December, 1965 at around 10:00 PM whilst riding around the Wirral, in Liverpool, with Tara Browne. Paul still had half a front-tooth 6 months later, during the The Beatles' “Rain” video. Flash forward 55 years and Paul was again seen sporting a half tooth in an apparent absent-minded outing. But it seemed a bit suspect to me. One thing Paul isn't is absent-minded. And what were his entourage doing during these photo shoots? Could it be that (at the height of Iamaphoney) McCartney wanted to be identified with the pre-1967 McCartney?
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Post by linus on Oct 17, 2012 21:33:38 GMT -5
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Post by linus on May 27, 2013 13:52:16 GMT -5
McCartney's alleged moped accident was on 26th December, 1965 Lloyd Christmas Of course one would ask " why would they send the body of Paul into space" It's a good question. But then one could ask, " why did Parsons and Hubbard attempt in 1946 to manifest an individual incarnation of the archetypal divine feminine called Babalon?" ... and why did Marvel artist/writer Jack Kirby seem to have a prophetic vision of an alien abduction via "Egg", and then have Betty & Barney Hill report they were abducted in the same area Aleister Crowley used to live in, he who did his attempt at manifestation. I am the Eggman!!! ;D 1965 bothers me. I know everyone believes McCartney died in 1966. The last interview with the touring Beatles in 1966, and the Paul McCartney interview of 1968 -- well those are the same guy. I've snatched/captured multiple images from both interviews, and '66 and '68 McCartney are the same person. I'm convinced of that.
On the other hand I'm not convinced anything prior to 1966 is him. Not at all.
You have a moped/motorcycle accident reported in late 1965 where McCartney sustained injuries to his face, resulting in a scar on his lip, and a chipped tooth. In 1967 he states he grew a moustache to cover this scar on his lip. A full year later he gets self-conscious about it.
But the chipped tooth he walked around with for 6 months. And that, to me, makes no sense. Having broken/chipped a tooth (the same one in fact) I had to get that replaced immediately. For one, it tended to snag on the inside of the lip whenever speaking. It was annoying more than uncomfortable. For two, the possibility of accidentally piercing the inside of your lip triples. It's hard to eat, speak, let alone sing with a chipped tooth. And I wasn't even in the public eye!!! That McCartney walked around with a chipped tooth from Dec 1965, until May 1966, while touring, making albums, promotional videos, just seems weird to me. The butcher photo (Yesterday & Today) was doctored to make him look like his tooth was fine. These shots were taken in March 1966. But it's evident in May 1966 when Rain/Paperback Writer films were made his tooth is still very much chipped. Everyone points to Sgt.Pepper as the "beginning of death". No. It's on Revolver. It's in the songs themselves. Because if you look at the subject matter of Beatles songs before that album, it's all pop fair. It's all love me do, with only one song really alluding to death (Baby's In Black). The rest are I'd die without yer lurve sort of things. And escalation of jealousy from Lennon. Then in 1966, and Revolver you get the 3 main writers (Harrison, Lennon, McCartney) all talking about death. In metaphysical, physical terms. It's so prevalent on Revolver, you can interchange the lyrics of Eleanor Rigby, Love You To, and She Said She Said so it all blends together like one lyric. Or a conversation. (Try it also with You Won't See Me/Think For Yourself/Nowhere Man from the album previous) Lennon also changes his lyric subject matter directly after Nowhere Man into speaking about only the colours Yellow and Green, and allusions to water/floating/streams. He does this for 2 years. If it's not water, it's those two colours mentioned. Exclusively. He writes about nothing else. Until the "White Album". My "gut" is telling me something happened in 1965. AFTER "Yesterday". I think B's post was excellent. Gemini Working. 26th December 1965. That Moped Accident(what follows is just brainstorming.) It's the stories told about that Moped accident. He did an interview in June 1966. He stated that he'd just bashed his tooth in, and his appearance looked a bit down, because they had been recording that spring for the album.
On the 18th May they recorded Got To Get You Into My Life until 2.30am. Then on the 19th started filming the Rain and Paperback Writer videos. But it's the 20th at Chiswick House filming videos for the same songs that his lip looks agitated and puffy, and his appearance looks ill.
He said he started growing a moustache, because the scar was embarassing and he knew he'd be appearing in magazines and such. But you can find so many photos posed for and sent to magazines between Dec 1965 and May 1966. He didn't think about that at all when posing for those, nor to get the tooth fixed.
The rest started growing moustaches like I did. Well, not until December 1966 at best. George in India yes. Ringo apparently too, but they'd been back from Spain and India since November at the latest. And they (John, George & Ringo) do appear unshaven before the 20th December 1966 filmed interviews where they all have moustaches. In fact, Paul was the only one for a short time.
The story just does not add up. Coupled with the appearance in Feb 1967 in Beatles Book Monthly of 3 articles all placed together. Mopeds (john + ringo) Moustaches (all 4) Car Crash Black Mini (Paul's Death Rumour) -- it's just odd that these 3 stories appear on the same page of Beatles Book Monthly. It's almost like it's telling you something. The Mini Paul had was Green, not Black. Paul says he started growing a moustache to cover the scar, but the scar was already a year had, and the chipped tooth for 6 months. John & Ringo Moped story. Is this telling us the Moped accident killed him? January 21st, 1966, Paul is best man at George's Wedding -- he has the chipped tooth. Is that too soon to make an appearance for a double?Was the double in place already? Was the chipped tooth/lip scar just a cover story? There is just something about that Moped accident that bugs the hell out of me. The story told does not match up to the timeframe or incidents that followed. 3 deaths occur in 1966. Alma Cogan, Kevin MacDonald, and Tara Browne. There's also a member of the Fourmost that dies in March 1966. Millward I think his surname was. But it's these 3 deaths that bug me as well. Cogan died of stomach cancer. Suspected cause of this was a highly experimental weight loss drug she was injecting. Kevin MacDonald was co-owner of Sibylla's with Tara Browne. Harrison had a 10% shareholding in Kevin MacDonald Associates Ltd. MacDonald threw himself off a roof. Did he fall or was he pushed. Don't know. Don't know what happened to Harrison's share in Sybilla's OR KMA Ltd. Tara Browne died in a fatal car crash. Coroner's report states there was nothing in his system at time of death that suggested reckless or lack of reaction skills -- he saved his passenger's life with his quick reaction to the oncoming parked vehicle. These happened within a very short time span October - December 1966. MacDonald first, then Cogan about 11 days later, then Browne in the last month of 1966. (But it doesn't stop there -- you then have Joe Meek, Joe Orton, Harry Epstein, Brian Epstein ... it keeps going. Moped. Hmm. singing I Am the Walrus with George Martin.
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Post by linus on Jun 10, 2013 21:46:03 GMT -5
This is the little-known reason for the name changes that take place in the Bible. The characters of individuals changed, as well as their genetics and spirituality when they were in contact with a Biblical deity, and since the stone from which they were manufactured is called LIAS, then to indicate this, they are given an 'alias', meaning literally, 'of' or 'from' 'Lias' or A-LIAS. (The use of an Alias is also common in our society as well. Examples of aliases are the famous Jewish evangelist, Billy Graham, whose name was originally Billy Frank, Francis Bacon, editor of the King James Bible, whose name was William Shakespeare and The 'Apostle' Paul, who was a Freemason and whose name was actually Apollonius of Tyana, a famous student of Pythagoras.)There is a school of thought that argues that Apollonius was the model for the biblical crucifixion event. It has often been claimed that someone other than Jesus was crucified. According to some this person was actually Apollonius of Tyana. According to Galatians Apollonius/Paul was in Jerusalem in 30 CE meeting with Jesus’s brothers Peter and James. Further claims state that the image on the shroud of Turin matches a bust of Apollonius of Tyana including a scar in the configuration of the number 11 above Apollonius' left brow. Temples and statues were built in his honour, and for the first three centuries AD he was regarded as a demi-god and saint. The popularity of Apollonius' teachings became a threat to the decaying Roman Empire, so in 325 AD, At the Council of Nicae, emperor Constantine and his bishops devised the New Christianity which would turn attention away from Appolonius, to a Judean carpenter by the name of Jesus. All records of Apollonius and his Essene Christianity were destroyed and this meant burning the libraries, including the most famous one at Alexandria.
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Post by linus on Aug 24, 2013 18:29:17 GMT -5
Here Epstein says he tried to persuade McCartney to cap his chipped tooth, to no avail.
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Post by cherilyn7 on Aug 24, 2013 19:53:50 GMT -5
Welcome. Just do your homework and get stuck in!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 20:08:49 GMT -5
Hi, folks. I'm new here. Hope there's an option -- in the forum rules, at least -- to either create "introduction threads", or already one where new members can go to tell a little bit about themselves or to just introduce themselves. I'm not one to regularly hang around forums/communities/message boards, and even social networking sites these days [quit years ago b/c of -- to make a long story short -- 'cyber-bullying'; I just didn't get along with members of other boards] but this one is so interesting -- not to mention that there's a lot of 'fresh, piping-hot tea' [an expression they use on one of my favourite Internet blogs -- Diary of a Hollywood Street King -- for juicy celeb gossip, whether true or speculated] from fans in regards of what happened to Paul back in the autumn of '66 (my parents were both 11 then). That said, I've been a lurker around here for a little while, but decided to join b/c I have my share of 2 cents I'd like to put in concerning the replacement of Paul McCartney, FTR (for the record). Thanks for taking time to read my first post. invanddis.proboards.com/board/13/me-introducePlease allow to introduce yourself.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 24, 2013 20:11:04 GMT -5
Hi, folks. I'm new here. Hope there's an option -- in the forum rules, at least -- to either create "introduction threads", or already one where new members can go to tell a little bit about themselves or to just introduce themselves. I'm not one to regularly hang around forums/communities/message boards, and even social networking sites these days [quit years ago b/c of -- to make a long story short -- 'cyber-bullying'; I just didn't get along with members of other boards] but this one is so interesting -- not to mention that there's a lot of 'fresh, piping-hot tea' [an expression they use on one of my favourite Internet blogs -- Diary of a Hollywood Street King -- for juicy celeb gossip, whether true or speculated] from fans in regards of what happened to Paul back in the autumn of '66 (my parents were both 11 then). That said, I've been a lurker around here for a little while, but decided to join b/c I have my share of 2 cents I'd like to put in concerning the replacement of Paul McCartney, FTR (for the record). Thanks for taking time to read my first post. There is an introduction thread at the forum, but welcome here. The things I know about the Moped Accident: In all the Paul McCartney Is Dead research, the Moped accident is the one that bugs me the most. It's telling, its evidence, its facts are all bothersome to me. It's at this point in time I am unsure whether a moped accident happened at all. The only evidence we have that he was in an accident is that "famous" photograph. Which I'd never seen in all the years I've been seeing photographs of Beatles since the late 60's early 70's. I'd never seen that image before. Who took it? When was it released? Where does it appear first? The wounds he suffered in this image appear to me to be one that goes in a straight line. From his brow to his lip, to the chipped tooth end result. It looks more like he was hit with a stick, than hitting pavement in winter conditions coming off of a moped at close to 30MPH. Personally I can't tell if that is just ingenious photoshop of an "accident" photo. In argument with people on YouTube about it, I had people tell me the photograph was taken by the cops. By the paramedics. By Tara Browne. And each time I had to say, does this photo not look extremely well lit to you to be taken at night when this accident occurred? The witnesses to this accident? Tara Browne. Dead. The doctor who sutured his lip on the fly. Unnamed. Unknown. His cousin Bett. Bett what. Bettina? That's a lot of Bettina's showing up in a google search of Paul McCartney + Bettina. Maybe it's Betty. Anyway, we don't know what Bett's full name is. There are your three witnesses to this Moped accident. One's dead. One's unknown. One is a relative with a nickname. There are no medical records or hospital visit dates to go from. The surgery was done in Bett's home. The doctor is someone Bett knows. So who took the picture? 3 weeks later, after this accident where he came off of a moped at 30MPH, hitting pavement with his face, he is at George Harrison's wedding. With no scars to speak of. The chipped tooth can be somewhat seen in certain photographs, you just have to look closely. He heals very quickly for a man who maybe should have had a broken nose, collarbone, fingers, ribs, legs, let alone his face may have had the skin torn off of it from hitting not only pavement, but icy pavement. Road burn. But he healed very quickly for going at a speed that is fast enough to kill you. Next public appearance is at the Alfie premiere with Jane Asher. His chipped tooth can be seen. Next promo appearance are the Bob Whitaker photo sessions which include the Butcher photos. Even though McCartney for a majority of the photos does not smile or keeps his mouth closed, you can see his lip has swelling, and his tooth is chipped. The Yesterday & Today front cover gives him a tooth. Between December and February, both Brian Epstein and Tony Barrow make mention of this moped accident, so it was in the records as happening. May 1966 sees McCartney filming promos for Rain and Paperback Writer. It's here where the chipped tooth cannot be hidden. But it's my belief that something's wrong here. Because the filming on May 20th (Chiswick House) shows McCartney with a very puffy, agitated top lip, so much so that it appears at times his whole tooth is missing. Whereas on the 19th (in a studio) this is not the case. His tooth is still chipped, but his lip does not nearly cover the whole remaining part of the tooth. It's very strange. It prompted Mama Cass to state McCartney looked ill when the promos were eventually aired in America. McCartney said he'd only just bashed his tooth in. (which is not true. Unless 6 months is only "just." )He also said he was tired from late night recordings. The last recording late night was on the 18th, where on the 19th filming would make him look tired. But it's the 20th with allowance for a break where he looks worse. Maybe he just hadn't caught up on sleep. All I know is, that lip on the 20th looks like someone hit it again. He gets the tooth fixed in time to tour Japan. So somewhere between May and June he gets it done. In recollection, he tells the whole tale to Barry Miles, in stunning detail. Leaves out if he was wearing a helmet at all. Or what speed he was going. You have to go back to June 1966 to find out what speed he was going. He then tells Barry Miles that he grew a moustache to cover the embarassing scar on his lip, and he knew he'd have to appear in print and on television with this. Self-conscious. And the rest of the Beatles followed suit. This is a McCartney that seems to believe the accident obliterated an entire year of his life then, because it took a year for this moustache to show up, and a whole tour commenced while it was still growing. It seems like the McCartney that tells an interviewer in 1966 that he just bashed his tooth in, and the McCartney that tells Miles he grew a moustache that was the slowest growing moustache in human history, are McCartneys that have no sense of linear time. Or no recall of what they've stated before, and believe that providing glorious details, names, and vivid images of moonlit nights and makeshift sutures will make up for the fact that someone coming off of a moped at 30MPH is going to have a lot of trouble getting up. Especially if he hits the pavement using his face to stop his 30MPH momentum as he's thrown off of it. The lies don't stop there though.
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Post by NothingIsReal1985 on Aug 26, 2013 21:28:44 GMT -5
Thanks for having me. Perhaps Paul was beat up for a number of reasons; why? Well, that's up for debate and open to questions and answers. But all I have to say (at this moment) is that truth is not only stranger than fiction, but once you go down the rabbit hole you find that it's so deep that you eventually get lost in it. You THINK you know what's going on (that's the thing with mysteries), but you either have no idea or don't even know the half, because it is (the truth, of course) is only at the tip of the iceberg. Knowing what I already know about the Illuminati, secret societies, being initiated into the occult [and the sick, strange, perverted, bizarre rituals involved therein, which I'm no expert on, but know just the simple basics], SRA (satanic ritual abuse), trauma-based mind control, blackmail in the upper echelons of society [and the elite and our so-called 'leaders'] I can only speculate as to where those scars, wounds and contusions (bruises) came from. I'll start by saying that the records (of what officially happened to Paul that night, any other pictures, a police report, hospital admission/stay etc., if it happened at all) have been sealed, either by his request, or by law have been sealed away for privacy reasons. Or maybe -- and here's the suspcious kicker -- all of that stuff has been tightly locked away [like Martin Luther King's sex tapes with white prostitutes] because 'they' are responsible, NOT wanting the public knowing the truth of what REALLY happened to Paul... well, because someone (in-the-know) would expose where, why it would ruin everything for 'them'. Remember those photos -- well, at least one was released that I know of -- of that non-talented copycat whore Rihanna taken after Chris Brown (her boyfriend) had beaten her up shortly before the Grammys? (Here it is:) www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rihannabeaten.jpgNope, not sure if that really happened or not, because I d on't trust mainstream media (television, magazines, radio, newspaper, Internet [sometimes], books [especially New York Times bestsellers], etc.), because it's tightly controlled by 'them' and 'they' tend to have things filtered out, only showing & telling the public things 'THEY' want them to see and hear. Moreover they do that so to push and shove certain agendas (mostly bad and harmful) on the masses (therefore brainwashing and dumbing them down), whether we like it or not. But since that's a long story I'll go into it another time.
As for the photos being to well-lit to be taken at night... could they have been taken at the police station? The hospital? Some other room inside of a certain building? Who knows. But (on the other hand) the photo of Rihanna looks as though it was taken at night, shortly the incident between her and Chris Brown had allegedly taken place. Something doesn't add up about the photo of Paul McCartney after his moped 'accident'. Moreover accidents like that (whether mopeds, scooters, motorcycles, motorbikes, etc.) normally leave people seriously injured or dead. If not seriously injured then they get some other bad injury, such as a broken bones, terrible cuts, scrapes, head trauma, other things of that nature. I would also like to add that if someone's (or even a group of people's) stories keep changing... well, then it means that the whole truth [and nothing BUT the truth] is NOT being told. This (I know) to never fail to be a fact. Since this post was long more of my two cents coming up later.
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Post by cherilyn7 on Aug 27, 2013 18:15:54 GMT -5
I would have my doubts as to someone coming off a moped at 30 mph without a helmet (which was not a legal requirement back then) would escape with just a chipped tooth and swollen lip. What on earth would someone of the stature, wealth and fame be doing riding round Liverpool on a winter's day on a moped of all things (I think Christmas was mentioned?) when he had much more comfortable transport available?
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 27, 2013 18:30:30 GMT -5
I would have my doubts as to someone coming off a moped at 30 mph without a helmet (which was not a legal requirement back then) would escape with just a chipped tooth and swollen lip. What on earth would someone of the stature, wealth and fame be doing riding round Liverpool on a winter's day on a moped of all things (I think Christmas was mentioned?) when he had much more comfortable transport available? The only mention of the accident I can find so far in the national newspapers is on the 31st December 1965, Daily Mirror. It's a very short article. Very short. You'd miss it if you weren't careful. In it he denies he has gotten injured in a fight. NO FIGHT SAYS INJURED BEATLE
Beatle Paul McCartney denied last night that his gashed eyebrow and cut lip were the result of a fight. He said he had fallen off his moped during his Christmas stay with his family near Liverpool. And that's it. No picture, nothing. The next mention I can find of anything is the 8th January, 1966, where McCartney is reported as the "missing man" at Breakfast With (David) Frost. He sends a note that he has a working engagement. The piece is entitled ONE MAN WAS MISSING.
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Post by cherilyn7 on Aug 28, 2013 9:43:38 GMT -5
I must say this moped accident (or 2) does sound odd; it was supposed to be on either 26 December 1965 (Boxing Day in UK a day people spend with their families)or 31 December, being New Year's Eve also a night people spend with family and friends to let in the New Year. Paul chose to go on a moped ride to see his cousin, Bett (? who) and Tara Browne decided to leave family et al in London to join Paul in Liverpool for this jolly jaunt. Paul had hired 2 mopeds (as you do). By May he still had chipped tooth despite being able to afford the best orthodontic dental work available and appeared in a video with chip visible, saying later he grew moustache to conceal the swollen lip. I was not aware that Paul/Bill had a moustache til 1967 so there is something wrong with the timeline here.
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Post by cherilyn7 on Aug 28, 2013 9:58:26 GMT -5
Apparently Brian Epstein said the moped accident was mid-December. He told him to get the tooth capped but Paul did not. Why was an appointment not made with an orthodontist by the Beatles office staff? People like Paul McCartney in the most successful group in the world do not ring up to make appointments with dentists and suchlike. Apparently cousin Bett, had a friend who was a doctor and rang him and he came round....surely wouldn't an ambulance have been called to take him to hospital and check him over as well as do the stitches in his lip? Sounds more like it was decided not to make a fuss but why? Those injuries do not sound consistent with falling face first over the front of a moped.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 28, 2013 10:29:02 GMT -5
Apparently Brian Epstein said the moped accident was mid-December. He told him to get the tooth capped but Paul did not. Why was an appointment not made with an orthodontist by the Beatles office staff? People like Paul McCartney in the most successful group in the world do not ring up to make appointments with dentists and suchlike. Apparently cousin Bett, had a friend who was a doctor and rang him and he came round....surely wouldn't an ambulance have been called to take him to hospital and check him over as well as do the stitches in his lip? Sounds more like it was decided not to make a fuss but why? Those injuries do not sound consistent with falling face first over the front of a moped. Thank you. I have been saying this for a long time now. A man coming off a Moped at 30MPH landing on his face, and the photograph of Paul McCartney and his injuries ... are not consistent with one another. And being an owner of a chipped tooth myself, I had to have mine fixed 3 times. I came off of a ten speed bike, going appx 5 to 10MPH. I didn't get up until a car came along and people got out to help me! They found me in the middle of the road. The brake cable came off the handlebar and went into the front wheel. I was instantly flipped right over the handlebars. It was so quick, there was no time to REACT. None. I was dazed for I don't know how long. Well literally I just laid there until the car came. There was blood everywhere, my chin was scraped all to hell, my mouth was just blood, and the tooth of course. He's going 30MPH. I was LUCKY I wasn't going 30. He keeps his chipped tooth for months. Mine got fixed straight away, and my parents were on a budget!! This is America this happened in, ain't no NHS there! They had to fix my tooth twice. Believe me, I bet you I cost them a fair bit of money for the times (1970's) But McCartney? He's walking around like it's a badge of honour. Then why not SMILE for photos if it doesn't bother you all that much. The chipped tooth was what made me say, there's something wrong with this Moped story. And I have a hard time believing nowadays this accident ever happened.
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Post by beacon on Aug 28, 2013 10:33:04 GMT -5
I must say this moped accident (or 2) does sound odd; it was supposed to be on either 26 December 1965 (Boxing Day in UK a day people spend with their families)or 31 December, being New Year's Eve also a night people spend with family and friends to let in the New Year. Paul chose to go on a moped ride to see his cousin, Bett (? who) and Tara Browne decided to leave family et al in London to join Paul in Liverpool for this jolly jaunt. Paul had hired 2 mopeds (as you do). By May he still had chipped tooth despite being able to afford the best orthodontic dental work available and appeared in a video with chip visible, saying later he grew moustache to conceal the swollen lip. I was not aware that Paul/Bill had a moustache til 1967 so there is something wrong with the timeline here. Found some info. Bett existed, she was Bett Robbins. This newspaper article kindly even gives us her address! Printed from microfilm of The Liverpool Echo, 2 July 1964. In case the text is hard to make out, it reads:
The Paul Beatle Aunts Get Ready For Big Day
Three Beatle aunts - all aunts of Paul McCartney - were yesterday holding their own miniature dress rehearsal for the London premiere on Monday of their nephew’s new film, “A Hard Day’s Night” (which of course has its Liverpool premiere, being attended by the Beatles, next Friday.)
"We all want to look our best," one of the aunts assured me, making last minute adjustments to her own evening gown.
The scene yesterday was (from left to right): Cousin Bett (Mrs E. Robbins), of 37a Upton Road, Claughton - who unfortunately has to stay behind to look after her young family: Auntie Jyn (Mrs Jane Harris) of 147 Dinahs Lane, Huyton, Liverpool; Auntie Mill (Mrs Mildred Kendall) of 37a Upton Road, Claughton, and Auntie Ede (Mrs Edith Stapleton), of 11 Scargreen Avenue, West Derby, Liverpool.
The party - including Paul’s father, Mr James McCartney, his brother Mike (“McGear”, of the Scaffold) and two other aunts, Mrs Dylys Mohin of the Eagle Hotel, Paradise Street, Liverpool, and Mrs Joan McCartney, of 132 Park Lane, Netherton, will be flying to London from Liverpool Airport on Monday.”Interestingly this website gives us a different account of the moped accident. Paul and Jane Asher kept twin moped bikes at 'Rembrandt' and used to drive around the Wirral peninsula on them. One evening Paul decided to ride over to Bebington by himself to visit a cousin. Although it was a journey of only a few miles, Paul had an accident and smashed the bike into a kerb and was flung head over heels over the handlebars. He had a badly cut lip that needed stitches and a local doctor attended to the lip and also to some damage above one eye. No mention of Tara here - why I am not surprised! You are right, the timelines are wrong. There is no way he would wait six months to get his tooth fixed, especially as the Beatles had access to their own dentist, John Riley. The report above makes no mention of the tooth at all, perhaps we have to assume that the damaged tooth occurred in a different incident?
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 28, 2013 10:41:27 GMT -5
Interestingly this website gives us a different account of the moped accident. Paul and Jane Asher kept twin moped bikes at 'Rembrandt' and used to drive around the Wirral peninsula on them. One evening Paul decided to ride over to Bebington by himself to visit a cousin. Although it was a journey of only a few miles, Paul had an accident and smashed the bike into a kerb and was flung head over heels over the handlebars. He had a badly cut lip that needed stitches and a local doctor attended to the lip and also to some damage above one eye. No mention of Tara here - why I am not surprised! You are right, the timelines are wrong. There is no way he would wait six months to get his tooth fixed, especially as the Beatles had access to their own dentist, John Riley. The report above makes no mention of the tooth at all, perhaps we have to assume that the damaged tooth occurred in a different incident? And I will tell you straight up, I would trust Bill Harry on this. His account of things is wildly out of line with the Beatles Mythos. But every time you GO to that Mythos, things are all skewed and twisted, and just do not make any sense. It's all stories that conflict with timelines and documented events. Again and again. I would trust Bill Harry on that one. The inference is that Paul was on his own when riding this Moped. There is no mention of Tara Browne, but there is no mention that Jane Asher was riding out with him either. He might as well have been on his own. And I think Bill Harry would mention Tara Browne, because he's an intense stickler for detail, and getting stories straight, especially when it comes to the death of Stuart Sutcliffe, and Cynthia Lennon's account of the early days of The Beatles. He is nitpickey. His stories conflict with the legend. But look to the legend, and you're going to find things are all wrong.
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 28, 2013 10:57:33 GMT -5
Here's Paul McCartney on the 19th May. It's for the Paperback Writer/Rain promos. Filmed by Michael Lindsay-Hogg, beginning at 10am in the morning. The previous day (18th May)The Beatles were recording Got To Get You Into My Life until 2.30AM of the 19th! So Paul looking tired would be totally justified. Very possibly only getting 4 to 5 hours sleep. You can see the lip does not completely cover his chipped tooth, even with his mouth open. But here's the next day at Chiswick House on the 20th May. An early filming again. HERE he looks ill and tired, and that lip looks like it got hit again. Look at it! It's huge. At times you can barely see his tooth underneath it.
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Post by cherilyn7 on Aug 28, 2013 17:16:53 GMT -5
I agree with Voodooguru that it is looking like the moped accident(s) don't make sense and if something does not make sense then it is not true. If Paul(Bill) stated that he grew the moustache to cover the swollen lip (the lip must have been swollen for a long time then as he did not grow a moustache til December 1966!) Even in 1965 mopeds were not a very popular method of transport in the UK. Paul stated that when Tara Browne decided to join him in Liverpool, he had already hired 2 mopeds. I have never heard of people hiring mopeds and certainly not a celebrity at the top of his game at Christmastime with the icy roads etc it would not be considered a safe form of transport. Tara Browne liked flashy sports cars why would he want to ride a moped?
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Post by cherilyn7 on Aug 28, 2013 18:44:50 GMT -5
The quotes from Paul re the moped accident were taken from The Beatles Anthology. Also re Tara Browne being in Liverpool with Paul at Christmastime 1965: Tara had at the time a new baby son and 2 year old son. According to Kathy Etchingham, Tara was planning to go to spend Christmas with his family in Ireland when he died in December 1966. So it seems that was his custom at Christmas; why would he be in Liverpool Christmas 1965?
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