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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 31, 2013 2:55:18 GMT -5
The quotes from Paul re the moped accident were taken from The Beatles Anthology. Also re Tara Browne being in Liverpool with Paul at Christmastime 1965: Tara had at the time a new baby son and 2 year old son. According to Kathy Etchingham, Tara was planning to go to spend Christmas with his family in Ireland when he died in December 1966. So it seems that was his custom at Christmas; why would he be in Liverpool Christmas 1965? And that is the multi-million £/$ question. Dear Paul McCartney; Why is Tara Browne hanging out with YOU at Christmas, instead of his family. It won't be until October 1966 that you see Browne household troubles, and reports of his two children being made wards of the court. But that's 1966. In 1965, maybe things weren't going well already, but you play Happy Family at Christmas time surely, if not for the marriage, then for the kids. Especially since you've just become a Dad for the second time. So why is he out scooting around with Paul McCartney on Boxing Day? Because he's dead that's why, and can't say any different. That should be the answer to that question. |
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Post by cherilyn7 on Aug 31, 2013 7:17:35 GMT -5
O M G! Are you saying Tara was dead by Christmas 1965 or Paul or both?
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Post by vOOdOOgurU on Aug 31, 2013 7:48:04 GMT -5
O M G! Are you saying Tara was dead by Christmas 1965 or Paul or both? Hmm well i wasn't saying that, but then again, you saying it kind of makes me think. What i was saying was, the reason McCartney keeps name dropping Tara Browne and placing him at accident scenes and building a whole history around him, is because Browne can't verify a single thing. He's dead. That's what I meant. McCartney probably got beaten up in 1965, and as Bill Harry did not see fit to mention Tara Browne's Christmas plans with McCartney, I'm wondering where Browne really was in 1965 December. |
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Post by cherilyn7 on Aug 31, 2013 10:09:08 GMT -5
O thank you I get it now! Yes I would agree that it was not moped accident more like was "beaten up". It seems to me that JPM was being "phased out" and disappeared after August 1966 (in fact I find the 1966 American press conference peculiar as stated on the Tara Browne thread)....he apparently used to gamble a lot and spent time with Epstein gambling. Another thing that has I find strange: that the others all got married and had a "home life"; yet Paul did not despite going out with Jane Asher for 5 years (supposedly). He buys the farm in Scotland in June 1966; with Jane at his side (looking like a double) and becomes "engaged" to Jane (did anyone ever see the ring?) but next thing we know he is a married man with a ready made family and becomes a recluse on the farm in Scotland wearing a bushy black beard!
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Post by NothingIsReal1985 on Aug 31, 2013 18:49:17 GMT -5
...but next thing we know he is a married man with a ready made family and becomes a recluse on the farm in Scotland wearing a bushy black beard! Lol... and lookin' like Grizzly Adams the Mountain Man, too! Hahahahahaha!  All jokes/joking aside, let's move on.   Perhaps Paul was beat up for a number of reasons; why? Well, that's up for debate and open to questions and answers. But all I have to say (at this moment) is that truth is not only stranger than fiction, but once you go down the rabbit hole you find that it's so deep that you eventually get lost in it. You THINK you know what's going on (that's the thing with mysteries), but you either have no idea or don't even know the half, because it is (the truth, of course) is only at the tip of the iceberg. Knowing what I already know about the Illuminati, secret societies, being initiated into the occult [and the sick, strange, perverted, bizarre rituals involved therein, which I'm no expert on, but know just the simple basics], SRA (satanic ritual abuse), trauma-based mind control, blackmail in the upper echelons of society [and the elite and our so-called 'leaders'] I can only speculate as to where those scars, wounds and contusions (bruises) came from. I'll start by saying that the records (of what officially happened to Paul that night, any other pictures, a police report, hospital admission/stay etc., if it happened at all) have been sealed, either by his request, or by law have been sealed away for privacy reasons. Or maybe -- and here's the suspcious kicker -- all of that stuff has been tightly locked away [like Martin Luther King's sex tapes with white prostitutes] because 'they' are responsible, NOT wanting the public knowing the truth of what REALLY happened to Paul... well, because someone (in-the-know) would expose where, why it would ruin everything for 'them'. Remember those photos -- well, at least one was released that I know of -- of that non-talented copycat whore Rihanna taken after Chris Brown (her boyfriend) had beaten her up shortly before the Grammys? (Here it is:)  Nope, not sure if that really happened or not, because I don't trust mainstream media (television, magazines, radio, newspaper, Internet [sometimes], books [especially New York Times bestsellers], etc.), because it's tightly controlled by 'them' and 'they' tend to have things filtered out, only showing & telling the public things 'THEY' want them to see and hear. Moreover they do that so to push and shove certain agendas (which are mostly bad and harmful) on the masses therefore brainwashing and dumbing them down. One of those things is this [exaggerated] business of domestic violence against females. I do NOT (mind you) make light of that sort of thing, but TPTB that control the mass mainstream media sensationalizes it (domestic violence against women) as though there a LOT more of it going on than there really is, therefore this furthering this feminist/women's liberal crap propaganda [which is NOT about women's rights and "equality" at all, let alone is in their best interest(s), FTR], which has my own family in fragments unfortunately, so there's absolutely NO way anyone can convince me that there's nothing whatsoever wrong with this big, stinking, piping-hot mess. But since that's a long story I'll go into it another time. As for the photos being to well-lit to be taken at night... could they have been taken at the police station? The hospital? Some other room inside of a certain building? Who knows. But (on the other hand) the photo of Rihanna looks as though it was taken at night, shortly the incident between her and Chris Brown had allegedly taken place. Something doesn't add up about the photo of Paul McCartney after his moped 'accident'. Moreover accidents like that (whether mopeds, scooters, motorcycles, motorbikes, etc.) normally leave people seriously injured or dead. If not seriously injured then they get some other bad injury, such as a broken bones, terrible cuts, scrapes, head trauma, other things of that nature. I would also like to add that if someone's (or even a group of people's) stories keep changing... well, then it means that the whole truth [and nothing BUT the truth] is NOT being told. This (I know) to never fail to be a fact. Since this post was long more of my two cents coming up later. |
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Post by cherilyn7 on Sept 2, 2013 16:17:38 GMT -5
See the Shea Stadium footage; Paul looks unwell and "shiny" face...forgot words....
I don't see someone like that riding round Liverpool on a moped at Christmastime....in fact, I can't imagine ANYONE doing that!
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Post by Rubber Soul on Sept 12, 2013 16:29:11 GMT -5
The moped accident was December 26 1965
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Post by Rubber Soul on Sept 12, 2013 16:29:28 GMT -5
The moped accident was December 26 1965
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Post by linus on May 20, 2014 1:28:51 GMT -5
In Roman Polanski's 1976 film The Tenant, he finds the missing front-left tooth of the previous tenant hidden in a hole in the wall. Days later, he wakes up to find his left-front tooth has been pulled. Which does not look blackened out, it looks like it's actually missing. You can see his bottom teeth behind the gap, and the sides of his upper surrounding teeth.   Here he's sticking his tongue through the hole (looking in a mirror).  earlier in the film, he visited the previous tenant in the hospital and we can see her tooth was not blackened out, but was missing. |
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Post by astro4 on Feb 8, 2015 8:39:38 GMT -5
The Moon is wrong for both accounts, if it happened on 26th December 1965. Paul told New Musical Express, The Moon was Full on the 8th, New on the 22nd, and on 26th a fairly young moon set at 8 o'clock. Paul could have seen it if he was in open country, but hardly in an urban environment. Then would he have said 'not long ago' meaning six months ago for an interview on 16.6.66? Faul's 'memory' is even worse, with 'it was an incredible full moon; it really was huge' (told on 'Anthology')- but there was a punishing tour schedule then, fans would have noticed: 3 December 1965 - Glasgow - Scotland - Odeon 4 December 1965 - Newcastle - England - Newcastle City Hall 5 December 1965 - Liverpool - Liverpool Empire Theatre 7 December 1965 - Manchester - Manchester Apollo 8 December 1965 - Sheffield - Sheffield City Hall 9 December 1965 - Birmingham - Odeon 10 December 1965 - London - Hammersmith Odeon 11 December 1965 - Finsbury Park - Astoria 12 December 1965 - Cardiff - Wales - Capitol Centre |
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Post by ekauqodielak on Aug 3, 2019 15:15:21 GMT -5
In Roman Polanski's 1976 film The Tenant, he finds the missing front-left tooth of the previous tenant hidden in a hole in the wall. Days later, he wakes up to find his left-front tooth has been pulled. Which does not look blackened out, it looks like it's actually missing. You can see his bottom teeth behind the gap, and the sides of his upper surrounding teeth. Here he's sticking his tongue through the hole (looking in a mirror). earlier in the film, he visited the previous tenant in the hospital and we can see her tooth was not blackened out, but was missing. I'd just like to add that The Tenant is a great is film, well worth watching, and the novella is wonderful, too. |
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Post by hotman637 on Aug 4, 2019 13:44:34 GMT -5
In Roman Polanski's 1976 film The Tenant, he finds the missing front-left tooth of the previous tenant hidden in a hole in the wall. Days later, he wakes up to find his left-front tooth has been pulled. Which does not look blackened out, it looks like it's actually missing. You can see his bottom teeth behind the gap, and the sides of his upper surrounding teeth. Here he's sticking his tongue through the hole (looking in a mirror). earlier in the film, he visited the previous tenant in the hospital and we can see her tooth was not blackened out, but was missing. I'd just like to add that The Tenant is a great is film, well worth watching, and the novella is wonderful, too. Yes it is a good film and Polanski was a genius and probably some sort of "agent"! He also directed "Bitter Moon" and "Chinatown"! The Tenant is sort of "Hotel Hell" only funnier! In the movie he jumps off the balcony then crawls up the stairs and jumps again! "you can check out any time you like but never leave"! |
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Post by jeanna on Jun 23, 2020 2:02:29 GMT -5
I read in several Beatle books it took place in LATE 1966.  I think Paul said so himself, but I'm not sure...that's the official reason he got the "pepper" mustache I think. My guess is he fell off of it twice! ;D The moped accident happened on Sunday, December 26, 1965. I know off-hand of four accounts of the story: Paul himself says in Anthology: "I had an accident when I came off a moped in Wirral, near Liverpool. I had a very good friend who lived in London called Tara Browne, a Guinness heir – a nice Irish guy, very sensitive bloke. I’d see him from time to time, and enjoyed being around him. He came up to visit me in Liverpool once when I was there seeing my dad and brother. I had a couple of mopeds on hire, so we hit upon the bright idea of going to my cousin Bett’s house. We were riding along on the mopeds. I was showing Tara the scenery. He was behind me, and it was an incredible full moon; it really was huge. I said something about the moon and he said ‘yeah’, and I suddenly had a freeze-frame image of myself at that angle to the ground when it’s too late to pull back up again: I was still looking at the moon and then I looked at the ground, and it seemed to take a few minutes to think, ‘Ah, too bad – I’m going to smack that pavement with my face!’ Bang! There I was, chipped tooth and all. it came through my lip and split it. But I got up and we went along to my cousin’s house. When I said, ‘Don’t worry, Bett, but I’ve had a bit of an accident,’ she thought I was joking. She creased up laughing at first, but then she went ‘Holy…!’ I’d really given my face a good old smack; it looked like I’d been in the ring with Tyson for a few rounds. So she rang a friend of hers who was a doctor. He came round on the spot, took a needle out and, after great difficulty threading it, put it in the first half of the wound. He was shaking a bit, but got it all the way through, and then he said, ‘Oh, the thread’s just come out – I’ll have to do it again!’ No anaesthetic. I was standing there while he rethreaded it and pulled it through again. In fact that was why I started to grow a moustache. It was pretty embarrassing, because around that time you knew your pictures would get winged off to teeny-boppery magazines like 16, and it was pretty difficult to have a new picture taken with a big fat lip. So I started to grow a moustache – a sort of Sancho Panza – mainly to cover where my lip had been sewn. It caught on with the guys in the group: if one of us did something like growing his hair long and we liked the idea, we’d all tend to do it. And then it became seen as a kind of revolutionary idea, that young men of our age definitely ought to grow a moustache! And it all fell in with the Sgt Pepper thing, because he had a droopy moustache. " Brian Epsteun says: "Last mid-December, Paul injured his lip and chipped his tooth in the moped accident. He honestly thought no one would notice the chip, for it is so small. I told him three times he should do something about it. It is in a place where there are no nerve ends, so there is no pain. Paul assured me that he would have the tooth capped, but – unfortunately – he has not done so. Could he be afraid of the dentist? It is my opinion that he will just let it be." In Ian MacDonald's book, Revolution in the Head, 1995, there is a short reference about McCartney, who was out riding with a friend while high on marijuana, crashing his moped and sustaining a minor injury. And the fourth reference, among hundreds of other newspapers and books, is from the Daily Mirror, Friday, December 31, 1965, page 15 reading: NO FIGHT, SAYS INJURED BEATLE, with the story reading, "Beatle Paul McCartney denied last night that his gashed eyebrow and cut lip were the result of a fight. He said he had fallen off his moped during his Christmas stay with his family near Liverpool." |
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Post by jeanna on Jun 23, 2020 2:04:25 GMT -5
The quotes from Paul re the moped accident were taken from The Beatles Anthology. Also re Tara Browne being in Liverpool with Paul at Christmastime 1965: Tara had at the time a new baby son and 2 year old son. According to Kathy Etchingham, Tara was planning to go to spend Christmas with his family in Ireland when he died in December 1966. So it seems that was his custom at Christmas; why would he be in Liverpool Christmas 1965? And that is the multi-million £/$ question. Dear Paul McCartney; Why is Tara Browne hanging out with YOU at Christmas, instead of his family. It won't be until October 1966 that you see Browne household troubles, and reports of his two children being made wards of the court. But that's 1966. In 1965, maybe things weren't going well already, but you play Happy Family at Christmas time surely, if not for the marriage, then for the kids. Especially since you've just become a Dad for the second time. So why is he out scooting around with Paul McCartney on Boxing Day? Because he's dead that's why, and can't say any different. That should be the answer to that question. |
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Post by jeanna on Jun 23, 2020 2:18:42 GMT -5
"Why is Tara Browne hanging out with Paul at Christmas instead of being with his family?" And you jump from point A: "Hummmm, I think it is suspicious that a rich, entitled young man would rather be with his friend riding mopeds and smoking marijuana than with his wife, who he cheats on, and children . . . and on Christmas, no less . . . hummmm, very suspicious" when in your opinion, he should have been at home playing like a Happy Family because that's what any decent person would do, whether he wanted to or not ... " to Point B: Because you are dead. That's more than jumping to a conclusion. That's taking off from planet Earth, flying around Jupiter a couple of times, and splashing down in the Sahara Desert. No wonder sane people avoid your crowd.
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