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Post by Doc on Apr 1, 2004 5:48:42 GMT -5
Actually, I didnot want to get into this, but as far as Blackbird, line by line, to me, some lines are Paul, and some lines are Bill.
Not recalling exactly which at the moment, I do remember that the "take these broken wings and learn to fly" to me, really has the Paul inflection, and breath pressure do push into the D natural of the first syllable of a-way.
All but one of the "Blackbird singing in the dead of night" front lines, sound like Bill to me, something about the way the tongue and the two "D"s in dead sound. Its the same consonant thing I hear all over Maxwell Silver Hammer, that I feel is Bill singing.
As far as Her Majesty---yes, maybe so. THe little almost laugh I think it comes during the wine-gonna make her mine line, is like the small laugh in Maxwell Silver Hammer (have to hunt that up) and somewhere in Rocky Racoon. That vocal placement is consistent to all three, and agrees with Bill's thinner low register. Bill has more power and comfort beginning at middle C, actual pitch, to my ears. Paul was good up to about F then he tended to have to belt. Bill could take Fs and Gs with less duress. Although there is plenty of "duress" in the verses of Sgt Pepper---who sings them? Is it Bill really pressing the voice? The sound, while seeming to emulate the high parts of Paul's Kansas City and his top vocal to "Drive My Car", is different from those two examples. Close though, an imitation of the approach, but not the same timbre. That is just my opinion, which may not hold true.
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Post by Doc on Apr 1, 2004 5:58:55 GMT -5
And yes I agree that Your Mother Should know is a composite of two voices. It is Bill tracked with Paul. Their is one voice pressing to get the tops E's of the melody, the other voice is reaching them easier, and singing in a half voice in order to blend. I hear a certain tone on the higher notes that is JP.
The line about "I'm taking the time forrah number of things, thaht wuhhnt impoah'-tant yestah-day" is for sure JP.
The "Silly people, standing there,etc etc" sounds like the blend to me. The vibrato on "at my doooooorr" seems to Bill, he has the power there to open up and belt that big tone with vibrato.
The first line of Fixing a hole, seems to be either--a well rested JP, or an entirely different person, with an AMAZING vocal resemblance. However, the "pitch" envelop and vibrato sound wrong. JP had a certain habit of SLIDING. This first verse doesn't have that same sliding.
Back in the USSR/You Never Give Me your Money (middle part) /Lady Madonna/there is one more I forget--who is this on these? Why don't we do it in the road--bill--? Rocky Racoon--bill------
Here There and Everywhere, and For No one-------I have questions about certain lines..................forgive my tangent.
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Post by xpt626 on Apr 1, 2004 8:56:29 GMT -5
To me the accident theory is really thin,It doesn't make any sense for loved ones to cover up an accidental death. I know its depressing but it would explain the cover-up alot more if it were an overdose or possibly suicide. overdose doesn't fit with the clues.....
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 1, 2004 15:01:17 GMT -5
Here There and Everywhere, and For No one-------I have questions about certain lines..................forgive my tangent. ^Both on Revolver - 1966. I recomend getting Band on the Run. The intro on on it sounds a lot like JP, but then in the song Jet, it sound like someone else. Is it possible that Paul had this many unrealesed yet recorded songs?
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Post by southpaw on Apr 1, 2004 16:47:44 GMT -5
how doesn't it fit the clues xpt?
I have an open mind about Brian , but tend to think he wasn't replaced and personally felt responsible about JP's death, leading to his own eventual demise. I would like to know any clue pointing to a car accident. There are all the cab and car referances in songs and album covers but the accident may have been JP's mistake or made to look like one, and quite possibly the "accident/overdose/murder took place in a car,"he blew his mind out in a car, he didn't notice that the lights had changed", We are told this story is about Tara, and the cresendo in the middle of the song doesn't neccessarlily convey an automobile accident. Revolution # 9 has the screaming "get me out get me out" this could be interperated many different ways and not conclusive to an auto accident. Its hard for me to believe they(the major players and loved ones) would all fall in line so obediantly with this cover up had it been an auto accident. Its quite possible he was found dead in a car. The timeline tells us that around the time in question Brian and Paul were frequently together(possibly working on a new record contract under a different label)Brian may have been with Paul right before the incident , whether it was an accident or somthing else is still a mystery and I'm not leaving out possibilities such as foul play or staged suicide/overdose.
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 1, 2004 16:57:15 GMT -5
I doubt it's anything drug related, because if it was, than where would "Paul.........is..........very.......bloody...." fit in ?
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Post by southpaw on Apr 1, 2004 17:06:20 GMT -5
again I want to state that I don't know what happen and want to keep open to different possibilities. Along with the bloody clues there are clues in Free as a bird pointing towards an auto accident. I'm not saying it must have been an overdose (which could be bloody if it involved needle's) but also suicide(or staged suicide) has the potential to be bloody.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 1, 2004 17:36:57 GMT -5
Just talking off the top of my head here, but from what I've read, the drug use was like this: They all took uppers in the studio and on stage, probably not real heavy duty, but if it became habit forming the dose would get higher as time went on. No doubt it was legally or quasi legally prescribed. There was also a fair amount of pot smoking, but probably more recreational, not when they were working. I remember Ringo saying in Anthology, the few times they used drugs in the studio, (he didn't elaborate on what kind) they would sound like "sh*t" and have to do the take over. Then in 1965, (?) there was the famous "dentist that slipped them LSD" incident involving George and John. From what I've read, up until 1966, that was about the extent of it. Sure, that's a good suggestion. I'm a nut, I have just about any footage you could ask for at this point.. ;D ;D I remember George talking about this, again on Anthology. He said, "well we all thought that it was rather peculiar, here were we were for the last year trying to get him to try it, and next thing we know he's on TV talking about taking it... " (or words to that effect)
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Post by Doc on Apr 1, 2004 23:02:49 GMT -5
Yes, FP, all the "bloody" talk implies a violent death, accident, homicide, gun, knife, car wreck...that type thing.
As far as staged suicide, well, why would he have wanted to get out of the limelight so badly? Well, thet IS possible, 'cause everyone isn't comfortable with the extreme attention. But then, why stage a suicide that you have to cover up? But if it was just his plan to do so, he would have needed lots of help to stay hidden away. He would have to have plastic surgery as well, to change his face enough to NOT be recognized as Paul, at least the first few years. (So he could be a "real nowhere man.")Of course, we see that the public's mental concept of a person can be adjusted over time.
Hell, they could have replaced John, Geirge, Ringo, AND Paul with chickens if the PR had been gradual enough.
The Beak-les.
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Post by xpt626 on Apr 1, 2004 23:41:31 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]NO POLITICS ON THIS BOARD. PERIOD.[/glow]
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Post by FlamingPie on Apr 1, 2004 23:50:19 GMT -5
Yeah, that's why it was crossed out. I'll delete it now.
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