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Post by LOVELYRITA on Apr 3, 2006 23:57:54 GMT -5
I was googling for something else and found this ditty. There was a book called Many Years From Now, JoJo probably owns a copy. If not, maybe something to look into... Anyhow, it's about "Bill's" recollection of the Sgt. Pepper album. Read this site and you get a bit of what the book is like. www.rarebeatles.com/manyyrs.htmI found it interesting that Bill referred to Sgt. Pepper as the Doppleganger Beatles..... Hmmmm....Funny he would use that word to describe it. More to that than just a play on words.
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Post by mysteryboy on Apr 4, 2006 17:37:06 GMT -5
Great read! Doppleganger indeed!
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Post by revolver on Apr 4, 2006 18:20:57 GMT -5
That comment also ties in to U2's Sgt. Pepper frames in their Even Better Than The Real Thing video. See, FP? Even U2 knows what happened.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Apr 4, 2006 22:54:21 GMT -5
I'm sure all bands at that level of success know the inner workings of the "shadow system" as well as the music business. There's probably a blood ritual and once you're in, you know what others before have done and experienced as example.
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Post by astro4 on Oct 22, 2014 4:48:36 GMT -5
The reference – page 304, Many Years from Now Barry Miles: ‘Doppelganger,’ for the Sgt Pepper concept. Its eerie the way this book has Faul reminiscing about Paul’s early life, with uncanny detail. If one accepts PID then Barry Miles becomes a central enigma. He was there at the Indica Gallery, he ran the International Times so he knew the real, actual JPM rather well. So let me ask this, if you go to The Rotten Apple no. 710 www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JwMp-ENcdQ#t=31 at 3 minutes you hear "Yes I’ve known both of them" - Is that the voice of Barry Miles? (Or it could be Robin Dunbar, who is mentioned just before).
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Post by delysid on Oct 23, 2014 5:11:52 GMT -5
Sheesh there are at least 710 episodes of Rotten Apple? Now that I didn't know. I may have seen ten at most. Barry Miles is an excellent journalist who's been characterised here and elsewhere in PID/PWR as "a tool of the Tavistock Elite" when, if anything, he represented a severe thorn in the side of any suchlike during the 60's. International Times was raided more than once by Special Branch police during his tenure, remember, which doesn't tend to happen to tools of the elite. There's little doubt that the paper, which each time lost its entire production equipment and stock, only survived the period due to the support of wealthy figures, among them The Stones and The Beatles themselves, as defiantly anti-establishment figures in the UK, historically subject to regular arrests. American right-wing revisionism of the period tries to assume that there is a British conspiracy against 'american values' and that everyone in Britain, even those getting jailed for anti-establishment activities, is part of it. There's quite a heavy presence of such thinking in and around PID and it's not coincidental. The actual elite agenda is to distract from American imperial adventures against the interests of ALL other countries and to do this, it's easy to shout 'The Enemy is over there!' to the monkeys at the water-hole (come in Stanley Kubrick) or more accurately GATHERED ROUND THE OIL WELLS. Miles is also often represented around as a Macca acolyte and while he's certainly a friend (of "both"), most people seem to think he's only written about The Beatles when in fact he's responsible for depthful biographies of Bowie, Ginsberg, Kerouac, Burroughs and the general sixties scene. In fact he's nothing other than a gentleman who's quite prepared to answer questions via his website. So why not ask barrymiles.co.uk/ where you can also find what he's done other than 'pretending Paul McCartney is alive' "From Chimpan A to Chimpan Z, you'll never make a monkey outta me"
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Nov 6, 2014 20:42:13 GMT -5
For a moment, I was wondering if Barry Miles was just another peculiar "alter" of someone. I didn't google him.
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Post by delysid on Nov 7, 2014 15:23:43 GMT -5
Personally, I think if you haven't researched to the extent of reading 'Many Years From Now' and understanding who Miles is in the context of the sixties in Britain, then you have very little chance of talking anything other than complete and utter bollocks about the PID subject, as indeed seems to be widely the case. What do people do for critical thinking around here? Consult FoxNews?
Just sayin
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Nov 8, 2014 20:21:22 GMT -5
Personally, I think if you haven't researched to the extent of reading 'Many Years From Now' and understanding who Miles is in the context of the sixties in Britain, then you have very little chance of talking anything other than complete and utter bollocks about the PID subject, as indeed seems to be widely the case. What do people do for critical thinking around here? Consult FoxNews? Just sayin I've got news for you, I've been doing research on this subject for 10 years and I know enough about this situation to know what's going on. For you to make such a statement and you don't even know me. To criticize my thinking, you are the one who is bullcrap!
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Post by delysid on Nov 9, 2014 14:20:28 GMT -5
Wow. I stand corrected. Remind me to turn to you for any basic fact queries I might have.
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Post by delysid on Nov 9, 2014 14:21:03 GMT -5
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Post by sniffer on Aug 22, 2015 7:21:17 GMT -5
The whole Tavistock-is-behind-everything theory is problematic - to say the least.
"We are conducting a war in Vietnam so lets flood the market with LSD and eastern philosophies and surrealist culture and turn people into hippies so they wouldn't want to fight"...
Doesn't sound like a logical Powers-That-Be move to me. Why would MK Ultra/Tavistock turn people INTO hippies?
I smell Teabaggers
(for the record, I haven't seen or read any evidence that Aleister Crowley was actually "Evil" either - or had harmed anybody in any way... unless of course you think that by definition deviating from the church dogma is wrong, in which case I feel kinda sorry for you, being a Beatle fan. Must be like being a leftist Ted Nugent fan. Do those exist?)
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Post by delysid on Aug 24, 2015 16:03:35 GMT -5
Hi sniffer. Couldn't agree with you more.
The PID community has been overrun with the descendants of those who were burning 'beatle trash' in 1966. They then caught up much more recently with Macca being THE Beatle who's been outspoken about racial segregation back then (again he gets mouthy in interviews by himself in 1966), and most importantly have realised just how many jewish connections there are with The Beatles and how most of them persist in Macca (jewish wives and children).
The rest is a tie-up between those who are inclined to blame everything on the sixties for political ends which include the ambition to return to the fifties era of military haircuts and no Ashley Madison.
Al Crowley was some kind of comedian. There was a period in the 80's or 90's UK after republications which didn't sell where his books became bargain books and floated around the discount shops for an age. I bought the big one 'Magick in Theory and Practice' and, luckily, opened it at a page which made me laugh my head off rather than a page which made me shiver in anticipation of THE BEAST 666 coming to eat my liver. It's the bit where he starts analysing nursery rhymes for occult significance and couldn't be more of an expose of his real game which is to TAKE THE PISS royally. It's no wonder Macca and Lennon thought he was great. I think 'I Am The Walrus' owes a lot to that kind of spirit.
Of course to some Jesus Freak intent on burning black people, jews and beatle trash, it's a different story. And that's PID 2015, kids!
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Post by hotman637 on Aug 24, 2015 18:11:30 GMT -5
The whole Tavistock-is-behind-everything theory is problematic - to say the least. "We are conducting a war in Vietnam so lets flood the market with LSD and eastern philosophies and surrealist culture and turn people into hippies so they wouldn't want to fight"... Doesn't sound like a logical Powers-That-Be move to me. Why would MK Ultra/Tavistock turn people INTO hippies? I smell Teabaggers (for the record, I haven't seen or read any evidence that Aleister Crowley was actually "Evil" either - or had harmed anybody in any way... unless of course you think that by definition deviating from the church dogma is wrong, in which case I feel kinda sorry for you, being a Beatle fan. Must be like being a leftist Ted Nugent fan. Do those exist?) Yes I am a "leftist" Ted Nugent fan! But of course Ted was replaced (probably more than once) just like James Paul McCartney! And we had the SAME RESULT! In other words they took people with REAL TALENT producing some great rock and roll and replaced them with HACKS blathering their brain dead right wing GARBAGE ( I admit I am exaggerating a bit but if they are going to replace people they SHOULD be hassled IMO)! An earlier version of Ted. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YpzEKRH3_YThird rate hack Ted. www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YpzEKRH3_Y
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Post by B on Aug 24, 2015 18:55:41 GMT -5
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Post by beatlas231 on Aug 24, 2015 19:58:46 GMT -5
Of course to some Jesus Freak intent on burning black people, jews and beatle trash, it's a different story. And that's PID 2015, kids! That made me smile
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Post by sniffer on Aug 25, 2015 5:26:28 GMT -5
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Post by sniffer on Sept 7, 2015 7:32:58 GMT -5
Just to be clear, though: There is - or was - something very dark and brainwash-y lurking in the Tavistock Clinic in London: this evil lady You can read about one of her victims in this article. It is blood-curdling.
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Post by B on Sept 24, 2015 15:42:34 GMT -5
Rose and Valerie, screaming from the gallery Say he must go free (Maxwell must go free) The judge does not agree and he tells them So, o, o, o.
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Post by delysid on Sept 26, 2015 15:22:39 GMT -5
'Junior's Farm' was actually a coded reference to Tavistock clinic while the 'I was talking to an Eskimo' line references Paul's 70's controller Dr. Doug Radmuck. More in my 13 page* book on Amazon.
*13 pages if you count them one by one and lose count four times while counting to nine.
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Post by delysid on Sept 26, 2015 15:45:14 GMT -5
That comment also ties in to U2's Sgt. Pepper frames in their Even Better Than The Real Thing video. See, FP? Even U2 knows what happened. Ha! Here the conspiracists come undone. Can ANYBODY who's been applying the 'people are paid to shut up' actually SERIOUSLY try to aply that to Bono, the loudmouth whose mates include Bush senior and junior, Clinton and Obama? They haven't been able to stop him saying ANYTHING he wants to, often off the top of his head and embarassing/challenging/annoying. So if Bono knows Paul is dead, it would be FROM A MEGAPHONE. Actually his VERY extended and OTT introduction to McCartney's MTV Europe Ultimate Legend Award a few years back is very very funny and I think he does include 'Saint Paul' in a wink of a PID reference. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpH5rem6sIk
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 16:15:56 GMT -5
That comment also ties in to U2's Sgt. Pepper frames in their Even Better Than The Real Thing video. See, FP? Even U2 knows what happened. Ha! Here the conspiracists come undone. Can ANYBODY who's been applying the 'people are paid to shut up' actually SERIOUSLY try to aply that to Bono, the loudmouth whose mates include Bush senior and junior, Clinton and Obama? They haven't been able to stop him saying ANYTHING he wants to, often off the top of his head and embarassing/challenging/annoying. So if Bono knows Paul is dead, it would be FROM A MEGAPHONE. Actually his VERY extended and OTT introduction to McCartney's MTV Europe Ultimate Legend Award a few years back is very very funny and I think he does include 'Saint Paul' in a wink of a PID reference. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpH5rem6sIklol
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Post by hotman637 on Sept 26, 2015 17:08:51 GMT -5
That comment also ties in to U2's Sgt. Pepper frames in their Even Better Than The Real Thing video. See, FP? Even U2 knows what happened. Ha! Here the conspiracists come undone. Can ANYBODY who's been applying the 'people are paid to shut up' actually SERIOUSLY try to aply that to Bono, the loudmouth whose mates include Bush senior and junior, Clinton and Obama? They haven't been able to stop him saying ANYTHING he wants to, often off the top of his head and embarassing/challenging/annoying. So if Bono knows Paul is dead, it would be FROM A MEGAPHONE. Actually his VERY extended and OTT introduction to McCartney's MTV Europe Ultimate Legend Award a few years back is very very funny and I think he does include 'Saint Paul' in a wink of a PID reference. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpH5rem6sIkYou do know that Bono was replaced ? It looks like The Edge was replaced too. Bono and The Edge 1981. www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcOn2axhWZw"Bono" and " The Edge" 2011. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg54pLYQONE
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 21:26:19 GMT -5
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Post by delysid on Sept 29, 2015 7:05:52 GMT -5
It looks like you're RIGHT! Bono has been replaced with a guy wearing shades and Edge has been replaced by a guy wearing a hat. PLEASE don't tell the Irish though or The Troubles will start up again.
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