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Post by JoJo on Jun 17, 2007 10:53:01 GMT -5
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jun 17, 2007 22:55:11 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this, as it's been a couple of years since I found this out. How the story changed with the additional fluff of Don Knotts and Vivian Stanshell...
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jun 19, 2007 22:36:24 GMT -5
You're right! The original is finally gone.
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Post by mommybird on Jul 15, 2007 16:13:22 GMT -5
That is so sad. I can't even find the words necessary to describe how much I hate them defiling the original document like that !
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Post by DarkHorse on Jul 15, 2007 19:17:00 GMT -5
It's weird seeing posts I made 4 years ago. I don't even remember writing most of them!
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jul 15, 2007 19:36:19 GMT -5
It's weird seeing posts I made 4 years ago. I don't even remember writing most of them! Are you are...?
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Post by JoJo on Jul 15, 2007 19:46:32 GMT -5
I was a little late to the party, but I started reading the Proboards version in August of 2003. (thanks to Coast To Coast AM)
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jul 15, 2007 21:40:15 GMT -5
Say, whatever happened to teds144? Anyone remember him? He was our first troll. Ah, nostalgia.
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Post by beatlies on Jul 15, 2007 23:08:22 GMT -5
An interesting post. "Nine One One" is a date of key symbolic significance for the Nazis and the Third Reich, by the way. 60IF: JAMES PAUL McCARTNEY DIED IN 1966 - THE DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE - JAMES PAUL McCARTNEY DIED IN 1966 :60IF Name: Uberkinder Subject: September 11 Sacrifice... Sat, Jul 5 2003 at 5:47 pm [ Email Msg | Invite ] Message: Don't forget what day this all happened, September 11, a very imortant pagan date. You'd be suprised how many important things pertaining to the formation of world government have taken place on this date. Here's a list containing a few, but if you dig deep you can find many more: web.archive.org/web/20030712205047/http://www.september11news.com/Sept11History.htm I think Bryan was to be used as a sacrifice to make sure that their plans concerning the entertainment industry went well. I'm not so sure Paul was just a bystander who got caught up in it, though. It seems too convenient that he couldn't take LSD, and suddenly after he's gone you have a government agent taking his place singing the praises of a government mind control drug. I think they wanted Paul out of the way, too. Here's what Faul had to say about Paul's not taking acid in an Anthology interview: "When acid came 'round, we'd heard that you're never the same; it alters your life and you never think the same again, and I think John was rather excited by that prospect, I (meaning Paul) was rather frightened by that prospect. I thought, just what I need, some fuuny little thing where I can never get back home again; may not be the greatest move. So I delayed, and I was seen to stall a little bit within the group. Cause' there was a lot of peer pressure. I mean, talk about peer pressure, The Beatles? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Brian's death - Dark_Horse, Fri, Jul 4 2003 at 9:41 am [33 hits] - Brian used in religious sacrifice! - Paul_Bearer, Fri, Jul 4 2003 at 4:35 pm [38 hits] - "JUDE" was the written found on Brian's car, just like... - Sun_King, Fri, Jul 11 2003 at 10:46 am [18 hits] - But why Brian? - Dark_Horse, Sat, Jul 5 2003 at 1:57 am [22 hits] - The gratest trophy - TheEggman, Sat, Jul 5 2003 at 2:31 am [22 hits] - i remember now - paperdoll, Fri, Jul 4 2003 at 5:28 pm [23 hits] - I think... - TheEggman, Fri, Jul 4 2003 at 9:56 am [22 hits] - what was the point - paperdoll, Fri, Jul 4 2003 at 3:04 pm [25 hits] - the reason why "magical mystery tour" - Sun_King, Sun, Jul 6 2003 at 11:59 pm [23 hits] - Ransom - Dark_Horse, Fri, Jul 4 2003 at 3:31 pm [22 hits] - September 11 Sacrifice... - Uberkinder, Sat, Jul 5 2003 at 5:47 pm [30 hits] Forum and Discussion Provided and Hosted by OneCenter.Com
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jul 16, 2007 23:41:47 GMT -5
Alot of those posts get back to the basics of what 60IF was about before the theories got so complicated.
Brian was the target because he was a jew and "they" needed a sacrifce for their "god". Paul, rather tragically, happened to be in the car as well and so...
I still tend towards that first story. I wonder that all the diverse theories since has been disinformation.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jul 17, 2007 9:10:47 GMT -5
It's weird seeing posts I made 4 years ago. I don't even remember writing most of them! Are you are...? What do you mean?
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jul 18, 2007 4:10:43 GMT -5
I'm joking. I know who you are...I think.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jul 18, 2007 18:44:56 GMT -5
I'm joking. I know who you are...I think. Yes you were the one who sent me the link when the 60IF forum first opened.
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Post by TotalInformation on Jul 19, 2007 1:05:43 GMT -5
Brian was the target because he was a jew and "they" needed a sacrifce for their "god". Paul, rather tragically, happened to be in the car as well and so... I still tend towards that first story. I wonder that all the diverse theories since has been disinformation. And I wonder if "that first story" wasn't a wild guess by someone pretending to have far more answers than he really did.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jul 19, 2007 1:11:25 GMT -5
Well, the first story certainly gelled with me at the time...still does...
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Post by Spanky on Jul 19, 2007 8:27:39 GMT -5
wow talk about the past coming back to haunt you. hahaha i never thought i'd see this again
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Post by That Latvian Guy on Jul 19, 2007 10:39:24 GMT -5
wow talk about the past coming back to haunt you. hahaha i never thought i'd see this again I never thought I would see this at all
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jul 26, 2007 21:35:20 GMT -5
Hello Spanky. You've been quiet lately.
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Post by Spanky on Jul 27, 2007 8:32:26 GMT -5
Hi PB, not really quiet, just reading and enjoying the banter back and forth. so much has changed in 4 years its interesting to watch all the new faces on the forum
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jul 27, 2007 19:05:30 GMT -5
Alot of those posts get back to the basics of what 60IF was about before the theories got so complicated. Brian was the target because he was a jew and "they" needed a sacrifce for their "god". Paul, rather tragically, happened to be in the car as well and so... I still tend towards that first story. I wonder that all the diverse theories since has been disinformation. The hideous and profane like Don Knotts replacing Brian, and Bill posing as Vivian Stanshell as well as being Faul... I do believe some disinformation hackers got into it and started ruining the credibility of the site with all the additions made since it was first out.
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Post by JS2 on Jan 5, 2009 13:32:28 GMT -5
That is so sad. I can't even find the words necessary to describe how much I hate them defiling the original document like that ! You do realise that by the way it has been so frequently been edited, contradicting itself, that it probably, regardless of whether or not Paul died, was false to begin with.
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Post by mommybird on Jan 5, 2009 23:50:38 GMT -5
I've been around since the beginning. I know all about the "document".
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Post by trutha on Jan 8, 2009 23:20:53 GMT -5
I would like to see the original, though. The version I read sounded like disinfo to me.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jan 15, 2009 22:03:59 GMT -5
60IF (original pigeon English):
36 Years After
11th September of the 1966 was Sunday. Brian and Paul returned from the trip made in good company. It was a beautiful period. After the storm instigated by the John's phrase concerning the Beatles'notoriety in the world and after the clamor of the case of the "butcher album" cover, all seemed to have returned to the same routine. Paul passed an extraordinary creative moment maybe for reaction to all that was happened. The evening came after a rainy day, usual in that season. At a semaphore stop a van suddenly cuts the street to the car of the Twos. The halves encountered but the bump was not excessive. After they expected a discussion but from the van men dressed in black went out and took away with force Brian, Paul and one of the girls carrying them away by a car that in the meantime had turned up. The second girl had the promptness of run away. The morn after,knowing nothing, we tried to call Brian and Paul but strangely they didn't answer. We proved to retrace them through our common friendships but nobody had seen them or listened to. We were all the day on the telephone. The following day instead phoned us the police tells us that there was a girl that affirmed Brian and Paul were been kidnapped. Ringo was the first one to arrive on the place of the kidnapping: in the vehicles there was nobody The girl told us all We began to panic. John had become hysteric and we all didn't know what to think, what to do. We were able the following Wednesday to don't go out the news on the newspapers thanks to our acquaintances. We had directly contacted the intelligence service that understood the gravity of the case and the implications of social peculiarity of the news. They told us that they would have taken care of everything. We waited for the ransom, a contact with the kidnappers. The time passed and didn't happen anything. As the days passed more the fear grew. One week passed and following Tuesday arrived a call, but not that we waited for. We were convened in order to identify Paul's and Brian's corpses. Brian had found in a car thrown in a cliff and went to fire. Paul was found instead at the feet of a hill few aloof from a white Volkswagen. He was in a ghastly state. He had been dead for a while and beasts had begun to eat at it that the lips torn by some animal and the left part had been torn to pieces from the bites he lacked all the right ear. Those wretches had started fire to the dead body of Paul to eliminate the proofs but the rain extinguished the fire when it had blazed all the legs. When we arrived there on the place it was a row of police officer that didn't let us pass and a crowd of men in shirts that was picking up material for the investigations. They were so much contemptuous of our pain that one exclaimed in front of the dead body of Paul: " Look ...it seems a walrus!" Yes, with his teeth outside for eated lips , with a swollen ear and shiny because wet it really seemed a walrus. John assailed who told that phrase and they began a brawl. He was brought out that cried and howled: "I.., I am the walrus ..not him (Paul), I.., I am the walrus!" We were desperate awake of the end of Paul, Brian and of the Beatles. But the anger made us think: we will not stop, we will not give up. Paul had left a lot of material to publish. We met: nobody had to know and Paul had to still be kept alive. Yes but how? It was announced to the press the will of the Beatles not to make more concerts and only work in recording studio therefore the press would have given a truce to us. It was suggested to us from the same department of the intelligence service what to do: they had disposition in their secret labs the technology and cosmetic surgeons that were able of recreate perfect doubles but in excange for their help we must conceal or refuse about all the happened because they'd put us under death penalty. We'd find for Brian one alike and few more but for Paul the main problem was to find one with a most possible similar voice. We had to convoked a lot of imitators, there were many at that time, and find one with the face compatible with that of Paul. We found a boy with a beautiful voice that was able to imitate Paul in a cogent manner but his face presented problems not repairable with the cosmetic surgery. We decided however of hold him for complete the songs and went out the album that was in preparation in the short possible time for divert the suspects and the rumours that began to pursue. When we hoped no more the right man was found. His name was William Sheppard and he was in force to the Commonwealth police in Canada. He liked sing and knew to strum a bit the piano. He had a beautiful voice but his Paul's voice imitation quality was worst than that of the boy already worked with us but his face presented wonderful compatible as concern the profile and the jaw, two determining elements for the choice by the cosmetic surgeons. Despite this the differences were quite a lot: Paul was long-sighted Bill was short-sighted Paul had hair that naturally went from left towards right Bill had (has) hair that went naturally from right towards left Paul had a round face Bill had a dug face Paul was left handed Bill was right handed After a while Bill accepted because he had also the left part of his face broken by an old accident and he would be liked a cosmetic surgery operation for repairing it. Irony of fate the "substitutes" had inverted heights: The substitute of Paul was taller and the counterpart of Brian was smaller. For this,they suggested us tricks that we must adopt when we were filmed together. In the meantime the record corporation not knowing if the operation would be successful decided to publish in a hurry Xmas album of old songs of the Beatles without a photo on the cover but with one old photo retouched in the back. (the color of the suit of Paul was changed in black) And with this cover begins the "hidden clues" When Bill was in the police he was nicknamed, playing on his last name, "Sgt. Pepper" because he liked drink and his nose, a bit rounded, was often red. After plastic surgery John gave to Bill the nickname of "Faul" that means False Paul or only Faul(t). Our welcome to Faul was the national hymn at start of "All you need is love" and "Sgt. Pepper" was the first album with the photos of Faul even if retouched. This album cover is full of messages. Many of that you have discovered are true, others not, others are interpreted by you badly. The more important is "Welcome Rolling written Stones" written with blood We hadn't had news about who it had killed Paul and John was sure that the murder of Paul had been made commissioned by the Rolling Stones that was well-known as delinquents. The crowd is made up of the characters that Paul would have wanted at his funeral. They are true: in the low fact of flowers the word Paul? is written The goddess Shiva (not KAli!)indicates the old and new Paul Alpha and Omega Be at LESO must be read: the truth lies in LESO LESO is not a island but the department of the intelligence service where there is the brief with the name Warlus the band had changed name and the writing is not more The Beatles but only Beatles Effectively in the bass drum there are mirrored words: It's the date of Brian and Paul's disappearance : 1ONE IX (September). The references that you have found on the back of the cover are all right as well as is true that the photo has been taken with the text printed on a transparent sheet as target. George point out the last complete song sung by Paul: "She's Leaving Home" Faul had an appearance older respect to Paul and for confuse this we left grow our beard and moustaches for seeming all "a bit older." Despite they must wear contact lenses for darken their natural green color, Faul's eyes were made discreet but someone noticed that something had changed: the surgeons had forgotten to duplicate the small ditching that Paul had on his chin. This was retouched in the photos. And Faul was endured to other sittings of plastic surgery until better results turned out possible but still not perfect. The surgeons altered his mouth again, the teeth and his chin fully rebuilt; the cheeks (and the chin) increased with time limited botuline injections when we must be in public or for the photos because his face was too thin respect to that of Paul. In spite of these operations today's traces of the old scar can be seen on Faul's chin and different oriented ears and overall a nose that is is not the same one, Faul has a smaller with a different shape. and above all the distance among the eyes was wholly different: Paul had a very large one. This is the main reason why many photos were retouched. And the old Faul what happened to him? Yes he is the one of the ticket photo in the left bottom side of the White Album poster To divert suspicion the photo was printed mirrored. Faul slowly learned to play like a left handed and to sing better. The counterpart of Brian could not hold up the role much time : we decided to went him out of scene as early as possible while we worked also forlegal managing for the musical material left us by Paul. So the Apple born. Also here John wanted to leave a strong reference to Paul: the written is "Apple Corp Ltd" but one must read "A Paul Corp Ltd" The trip in India was our attempt to put Paul's soul into Faul's body of but it didn't succeed: yes, we were gettin all out of head (mad) for the pain. After much time We came to know that Brian and not Paul was kidnappers' main target. The game initially was liked by John but as time went by the memory of Paul replaced happiness in the scope not to make the Beatles die and not to allow to win those who had killed Brian and Paul. Without our knowing it, he inserted in the tracks phrases whispered the truth. He risked to ruin all and the phrases were replaced in the next copies of albums. In spite of this John with maximum astuteness succeeded to publish the "white Album" poster that actually is the "White Book" of all the matter. When the material left by Paul was all published John did not find the reason in order to continue the Beatles but he didn't want to finish them up until he has inserted all the clues in the songs to reconstruct all the happened. Also the role of Faul must finish with the Beatles but he didn't respect the pacts and since he felt strong by the secret services protection, he published his first solo album prepared by other musicians. So we were tempted in the last album to reveal the truth but corporate managers and the lawyers prevented it. The reference "28IF" on Volksvagen plate in the "Abbey Road" cover is correct because the album had to come out the year after but it was anticipated for fear that from some part the truth would come earlier. In spite of his betrayal we should however say Faul an immense "thank you" . Thanks because above all he has sacrificed his life for the Beatles but overall for those fans that to the news of the death of Paul they would have sure killed themseves. Sure the economical profit has been favorable but he has not never felt in place a lot and is true that many clues were inserted by him! After the Beatles unfortunately he had become only a puppet in Linda's hands because she wanted at all costs to become a rockstar. But in the end, despite all, he became a very small McCarteny or better
"McCartney the Second" as he wrote on one of his album cover.
Dedicated to all those that kept alive this story until today.
Addendum: Sir James Paul McCartney did not die assassinated; he died by spasm because he suffered from a rare disease and he had continuous need of of medicines. His fiancèe was put to current of the fact and a annuity was recognized to her. Yoko Ono is a spy of the foreign office. She was part of John Lennon's assasination
In memory of Paul Brian John George
From a Beatles Interview 1992
Lies McCartney Warlus 60IF
THE END
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Post by B on Jan 16, 2009 1:08:33 GMT -5
It's fascinating to read that in its raw form. Thank you for posting that, PB.
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