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Post by JoJo on Apr 10, 2004 11:40:00 GMT -5
This has come up before, but there is a german movie that you can read about here: www.x-filme.de/html/paulisdead.html#Click on the trailer. Unfortunately, unless you speak german, you'll have a hard time following the details of the discussion, but of course we all here get the general idea.  Oh if there was only a way to buy a subtitled version, or any version for that matter. It looks really good from what I see. |
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Post by eyesbleed on Apr 10, 2004 12:22:57 GMT -5
This has come up before, but there is a german movie that you can read about here: www.x-filme.de/html/paulisdead.html#Click on the trailer. Unfortunately, unless you speak german, you'll have a hard time following the details of the discussion, but of course we all here get the general idea. Oh if there was only a way to buy a subtitled version, or any version for that matter. It looks really good from what I see. I was afraid that damn movie was gonna be in German! Oh well. That movie is hard to get in any format... unless you can find it on Kazaa or something. So I think finding a subtitled version may be impossible. |
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Post by JoJo on Apr 10, 2004 12:31:39 GMT -5
Well don't tell me I can't have something, because somehow I will, haha! Well there is a way to get subtitles, you find someone fluent in german and english and you sit down together in front of a subtitling program and go through the movie frame by frame. Oh that'l be easy...  ;D I did a little research with a translator, and it is indeed not on dvd or vhs, because they couldn't get the rights to the Beatles songs they used in the film. (no surprise there) It has however been shown on german tv, so there have to be some bootlegs floating around out there. I gotta have it!!  ;D ;D |
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Post by LarryC on Apr 19, 2004 19:00:49 GMT -5
Ich spreche Deutsch, aber nichts so viel. Ich hat im Augsburg fuer 4 jahre gewohnnen...1988-1992...aber jetzt ich bin echte yankee...hehe...redneck.
I will download this thing and see what I can make of it, perhaps I can find a connection who will be able to translate for us ;D I still have German friends living in Augsburg with whom I stay in touch via email. Maybe one of them will be willing to sit down and type up a manuscript in English for us. Can't promise anything, but I shall give it a try.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 19, 2004 21:12:05 GMT -5
Hey that would be pretty darned awesome Larry!  It's really a tough one to find, but if you can, great! There are subtitling programs that keep the movie open in one window, while you write the titles in another. I can't remember if they're free or shareware, probably there's a free one out there. Lemme see, then you have to run in though another program that joins the sub file with the video. But the hard part is one, finding the movie in the first place, and two, an accurate translation. I have all the programs needed, if it ever comes about.. I'll serve it up too, how's that? ;D |
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Post by TotalInformation on Apr 20, 2004 18:59:30 GMT -5
www.filmthreat.com/Reviews.asp?File=ReviewsOne.inc&Id=1502PAUL IS DEAD by Merle Bertrand (2001-02-15) *** 2000, Un-rated, 75 Minutes, X Filme Productions Rock and roll rumors just aren't what they used to be. When the best we can manage these days is the one about Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" album doubling as a "The Wizard of Oz" soundtrack, you know we're in trouble. Next, someone'll be saying that the Milli Vanilli guys don't sing on their own albums. It was a different story for Tobias (Sebastian Schmidtke) however, back in 1980 West Germany. Tobias is a Beatles fanatic who also daydreams about the group Nozzle Box. This fictional band, comprised of himself, his older brother Til (Vasko Scholz) and his shy friend Helmut (Martin Reinhold), exists only in Tobias' fertile imagination. With his mother away on business and Til hopelessly infatuated with his girlfriend Tessa (Myriam Abeillon), for whom Helmut pathetically pines as well, Tobias is often left to amuse himself. That's how Nozzle Box came to exist in his mind. It's also how he stumbles across the Englishman in the strangely familiar white VW beetle...and recognizes its license plate as matching the one on the white VW beetle found on The Beatles' "Abbey Road" album cover. This remarkable coincidence leads him directly into investigating the infamous "Paul is Dead" rumor; an epic conspiracy alleging that Paul McCartney had been killed in a car crash in 1966 and replaced by an impostor. Tobias decides that Nozzle Box can wait as clues and circumstantial evidence are everywhere; clues that seem to implicate his gruff school janitor as the "cute" Beatle's supposed killer. With Helmut's reluctant assistance, Tobias sets out in hot pursuit of his unlikely prey. This quirky, yet oddly charming coming of age story is a kind of scaled back German "Dazed and Confused" without the drugs and alcohol. Set to an ear-pleasing late '70s/early '80s soundtrack -- songs from the last stages of what we now call "classic rock," just before the New Wave and Punk crazes hit -- director Hendrik Handloegten's film perfectly captures the essence of male life just before and immediately after the onset of adolescence. Til and Helmut are a couple of walking hormones, as shy and clumsy as they are equally fixated on Tessa's (barely) more sophisticated charms. Tobias, meanwhile, totally immerses himself in his investigation in that annoyingly earnest and excitable way of little brothers everywhere, blissfully unaware, if not openly disdainful, of the hormones raging all around him. One shudders to think of the enormous rights clearance hassles that Handloegten needed to overcome; his film featuring not only Beatles songs, but images and radio clips of the Fab Four all over the place. If those rights HAVEN'T been cleared and you happen to be reading this, Paul, George and Ringo, go easy with the lawsuits. Because even though "Paul Is Dead" isn't a perfect movie by any stretch of the imagination, it is a charming and worthwhile addition to the ever growing Beatlemania phenomenon.
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Post by TotalInformation on Apr 20, 2004 19:00:20 GMT -5
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Post by TotalInformation on Apr 20, 2004 19:04:38 GMT -5
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Post by TotalInformation on Apr 20, 2004 22:08:38 GMT -5
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Post by Doc on Apr 20, 2004 22:54:39 GMT -5
"thirty", three times?
Ninety?
....and whatch'oor sayin' is..............?
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Post by xpt626 on Apr 21, 2004 5:58:37 GMT -5
[img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Dunno2[1].gif"]  |
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Post by JoJo on Apr 21, 2004 17:47:18 GMT -5
It's multiple of 15, it's one whole number greater than 29... The mystery number!  ;D ;D |
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Post by Doc on Apr 21, 2004 21:53:24 GMT -5
I must have missed the last Math Meeting for Initiates.
I thought it was all about, "43......."
I catch up next semester. (that's what I always said in collage.......I mean college...............)
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Post by LarryC on Apr 22, 2004 0:06:00 GMT -5
I was mainly referring to the trailer, but I have emailed my German friend and he has responded that he will see if he can locate this movie in a Video shop over there. I told him if he can find it on DVD just buy it and send it to me and we'll figure out how to get around the region codes that are unique to PAL...incidentally a DVD would have English subtitles, no?
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Post by JoJo on Apr 22, 2004 10:50:45 GMT -5
Yeah I figured you just meant the trailer after I thought about it Larry. But, a DVD would be cool, however it may mean a bootleg. From what I could gather using a translator, there is no possibility of an "official" release due to all the Beatles music used without permission. A good quality boot is possible since it was broadcast on German TV. Maybe your friend could look in some more "sketchy" video stores.. |
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Post by Goldfinger on Apr 22, 2004 15:02:19 GMT -5
Guten tag, Herr LarryC. I took German in high school too many years ago.
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Post by LarryC on Apr 24, 2004 11:11:54 GMT -5
Yeah I figured you just meant the trailer after I thought about it Larry. But, a DVD would be cool, however it may mean a bootleg. From what I could gather using a translator, there is no possibility of an "official" release due to all the Beatles music used without permission. A good quality boot is possible since it was broadcast on German TV. Maybe your friend could look in some more "sketchy" video stores.. Just received an email from him and, unfortunately, JoJo called it correctly. My friend, Bernhardt, went to some of the biggest video stores in Munich and had no luck. He had one of the stores check for a catalogue listing and it wasn't even listed, most likely for reasons stated by JoJo. Bernhardt is a very resouceful guy, however, and he told me he may be able to locate a boot. He said he would download the trailer and work on a transcript in text for us, but couldn't say when he would be able to do it as he's a pretty busy guy. Soooo...stay tuned and as soon as I have something I'll pass it along  |
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Post by LarryC on Apr 24, 2004 11:15:11 GMT -5
Guten tag, Herr LarryC. I took German in high school too many years ago. I did too, Bug, but I took it because I didn't want to take Spannish like most everyone else were doing...I had to be different. Little did I realize at the time, however, that I would be living in Germany about 4 or 5 years later and would have to try to recall all of the stuff I had flushed after I passed the tests...hehe. |
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 14, 2008 18:35:03 GMT -5
Does anyone have this movie? I just went to the library, & it's not in a single library in the whole country. I speak German, so I could translate it...
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Post by JoJo on Aug 14, 2008 19:49:16 GMT -5
There is subtitling software.. that would be a LOT of work tho.. It would be cool if you watched it and just gave your impressions. Check the "Audio/video" thread at Members Only.
Edit: I am rather curious about the dialog he has with himself (cut so he looks like he is talking with his twin) near the end of the movie.. If you download it..
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 16, 2008 18:19:31 GMT -5
Tobias sees the white VW Beetle, license plate LMW 28IF, of Abbey Road driving in the city (Berlin?). A British guy is driving it. He goes into a store and drops a cigarette package w/ a number on it in the trash. Tobias picks it up & follows the car around.
Tobias listens to a Beatles special on the radio hosted by Allen Banks. The quiz question is: “What does John say at the end of Strawberry Fields?” Tobias goes to a music store b/c the owner (Roger) speaks English. Roger tells him about PID, but that he isn’t allowed to tell anyone. He seems to be worried about the driver of the Beetle finding out.
Tobias tells his friend, Helmut. Tobias thinks what happened is that on Nov. 6, 1966, Paul left the studio after fighting w/ the others. He got into his Aston Martin & drove off. At Abbey Road & Wellington, he got into an accident w/ this white Beetle. Paul was crushed & beheaded. Nothing happened to the guy in the Beetle. Brian Epstein kept it a secret & replaced him w/ a double.
Tobias shows his friend the height differences, the OPD (OPP) patch, the P?/violin bass on Sgt Pepper, the grave, the hands over Paul’s head, John’s sign of the beast on Yellow Submarine, the black flower on “Your Mother Should Know,” the Abbey Rd funeral procession, Faul being barefoot (b/c the Mafia does that), Faul smoking w/ his right hand, and 28IF licence plate - Paul would’ve been 28 if he had lived. They also notice the guy on Abbey Rd by the police van.
They call the number on the cigarette pack, which is answered by the caretaker of their school. They stake him out, but that seems to go nowhere - it’s a false lead.
Tobias gets the idea to listen to records backwards - they don’t really go into that.
Tobias tells his brother that Billy Shears is the double. Billy was a young musician from Liverpool who played w/ the Beatles at the Kaiserkeller in Hamburg on 6 Oct. 1960. He had a big nose, & got made fun of for it. On 17 Nov. 1960, he’d had enough, & set fire to the room that Paul & Pete Best were staying in. The cinema burned down. Paul & Pete were arrested, & all the Beatles were deported back to Liverpool. After Paul died, Brian Epstein remembered Billy, and paid to get him a new nose.
The radio announcer on the Beatles special talks about the Russ Gibbs 1969 radio show that started the rumor that Paul was dead. Then says the story is stupid b/c Paul would’ve been 27, not 28 when Abbey Road came out, and b/c John said “cranberry sauce,” not “I buried Paul.”
Tobias’ brother is at a bar & tells Roger about his brother & the PID story. Roger takes off right away. Tobias goes to Roger’s flat looking for him. He crawls in a window. The white Beetle drives up w/ Roger & the mysterious Brit driver. Tobias hides in a closet. They come in, & the Brit starts shooting a gun in the flat at random things. Tobias freaks & runs out. The two chase him. Togias gets to his house before they catch up to him, & they drive off.
Tobias is at school, when they are introduced to their new English teacher - Mr. Billy Reash (“Shear” backward). He just happens to be the mysterious Brit Beetle driver - & he’s from Liverpool. He goes right up to Tobias & asks him his name. When Tobias doesn’t answer, he says, “I think I will call you ‘Paul.’” Tobias freaks, but nothing ends up happening to him.
At the end, his brother wakes him up to tell him John has been killed. Tobias says, “Billy!”
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Post by JoJo on Aug 16, 2008 23:42:43 GMT -5
Thanks Faulcon for the synopsis, and glad you got the video to work. Anyone with a familiarity of the story can get the general idea of the plot without speaking German, but you miss the little details, such as the bit about the musician with the big nose.
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Aug 17, 2008 1:10:23 GMT -5
Thanks for making the video available, JoJo. It was really good :-)
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Oh if there was only a way to buy a subtitled version, or any version for that matter. It looks really good from what I see. 
;D 
It's really a tough one to find, but if you can, great! There are subtitling programs that keep the movie open in one window, while you write the titles in another. I can't remember if they're free or shareware, probably there's a free one out there. Lemme see, then you have to run in though another program that joins the sub file with the video. But the hard part is one, finding the movie in the first place, and two, an accurate translation. I have all the programs needed, if it ever comes about.. 
;D ;D