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Post by lili on Sept 30, 2006 13:38:51 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned, there has been too much misery & death because of this "conspiracy". It's time for it to be brought to an end.
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Post by Blll on Oct 1, 2006 13:53:36 GMT -5
it is almost like the whole Paul Is Dead thing also involves travelling in time!!! I am serios.!! It is like everything is revealing in front of our eyes. I noticed you have expanded on this idea a bit at TKIN, asking if anyone remembers the drumskin mirror bit before 2001. I like to imagine the possibilities, but on the other hand, I am also practical, do see both sides here. The drumskin was always there, just no one bothered to "work it" before, perhaps to the chagrin of those who went to all the hard work of putting it there in the first place, as someone has hinted at.. right,Jojo.I Know that timetravelling is imposible, but It is weird that things are discovered that slow! BUT I LIKE YOUR IDEA!! but of all the things I myself have discovered nothing had been told to me anywhere... And I promise you,There are things that will blow your mind.. I mean how do you recken: "McCartney,He´s Dead,Do You Figure I Am A Phony" "We Will Sing It to you all, Man" "Cause We Will Be Reverse" "He Lives In Me" and a lot more.... Also I have got hold of a person,whose photos that Apple corps tried to buy in 1969. That is when they started to track down Beatles material. He wouldnt sell!!and He is convinced that He is Dead... It is getting HOT!! ...What about Mal Evans Dairy...anybody knows something... If you really have something new or weird about Pauls Dead! please step forward or best PM me... Lets let the truth out!!
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Post by Blll on Oct 1, 2006 14:23:33 GMT -5
wonder if Apple have a special deal with Ebay?
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Post by JoJo on Oct 1, 2006 14:42:17 GMT -5
I wish you luck with your documentary, but anything I find, goes up here, as always... Btw, you can use any of my efforts if you wish. (I can't speak for anyone else)
The Mal Evans diary never seemed to see the light of day, of course he was shot just as he was about to publish it.
Very interesting about the guy with the orginal photos, material like that does turn up on occasion on Ebay. I think anyone with negatives to sell that Apple would wish to grab... All they would have to do is have someone on staff searching or have auto alert turned on. Outbidding just about anyone would be no problem I suppose.
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Post by Blll on Oct 1, 2006 14:49:48 GMT -5
I wish you luck with your documentary, but anything I find, goes up here, as always... Btw, you can use any of my efforts if you wish. (I can't speak for anyone else) The Mal Evans diary never seemed to see the light of day, of course he was shot just as he was about to publish it. Very interesting about the guy with the orginal photos, material like that does turn up on occasion on Ebay. I think anyone with negatives to sell that Apple would wish to grab... All they would have to do is have someone on staff searching or have auto alert turned on. Outbidding just about anyone would be no problem I suppose. cool Jojo and thanks.... But Mals dairy was quoted in sunday times, It would be very interesting to read....!! Im am as told before sorry that I have to keep informations to myself,, But it is importent That "Paul" knows very little about my finds before the interview!!Thats why I prefer PM in this state...Sorry!! But If it is NOT OK We will just communicate here!!
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Post by Jai Guru Deva on Oct 1, 2006 16:56:41 GMT -5
On keeping things to yourself... I'll admit that I do it--not because I'm out for any personal gain or that I want to put the screws to anybody--but only because I'm trying to be carefull. Really there has been too much hurt and pain already. If you really have enough to bring Faul down and make him look like a fool--do you?. Or do you show a sense of humanity? However the truth comes out, my wish is that Faul still be respected for his accomplishments, while we recognized Paul as the genius that he was. You've got to realize it is possible to be a fan of both artists--there's no need to destroy one to exalt the other.
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Post by JoJo on Oct 1, 2006 17:18:36 GMT -5
To be clear, posting what I find (especially material in the public domain) is my policy for myself, anyone else may do as they wish. If I were to hear something sensitive, I would exercise discretion if it was called for of course.
Agree, all of the above. And, it's quite a chore you have ahead of you, it's one thing to discuss it on this little corner of the net, quite another to interview the man himself armed with your findings.. Good luck.
Btw, I forgot about the Sunday Times Mal Evans Excerpts, don't recall anything all that revealing.. Of course there wouldn't be anyway.
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Post by revolver on Oct 1, 2006 21:18:50 GMT -5
I think the only way to get Bill to ever admit anything in an interview would be "off the record". But even that would be a very long shot, and it would not be publishable. Still, it's worth a try, iamaphoney. You could always report back here anything interesting that was said.
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Post by Doc on Oct 1, 2006 23:20:48 GMT -5
On keeping things to yourself... I'll admit that I do it-- not because I'm out for any personal gain or that I want to put the screws to anybody--but only because I'm trying to be carefull. Really there has been too much hurt and pain already. If you really have enough to bring Faul down and make him look like a fool-- do you?. Or do you show a sense of humanity? However the truth comes out, my wish is that Faul still be respected for his accomplishments, while we recognized Paul as the genius that he was. You've got to realize it is possible to be a fan of both artists--there's no need to destroy one to exalt the other. "Speaking words of wisdom, Let It Be."
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Post by Doc on Oct 1, 2006 23:30:06 GMT -5
Very interesting about the guy with the orginal photos, material like that does turn up on occasion on Ebay. I think anyone with negatives to sell that Apple would wish to grab... All they would have to do is have someone on staff searching or have auto alert turned on. Outbidding just about anyone would be no problem I suppose. If I were a betting man, which I am not, I would bet money on that, Jojo. I think the "Automated Beatle Pic Snatcher 4.0" beat me to the punch on a couple of occasions......at 4:13 in the morning with my credit card out, waiting to dive.....
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Post by Doc on Oct 2, 2006 1:24:43 GMT -5
On keeping things to yourself... I'll admit that I do it-- not because I'm out for any personal gain or that I want to put the screws to anybody--but only because I'm trying to be carefull. Really there has been too much hurt and pain already. If you really have enough to bring Faul down and make him look like a fool-- do you?. Or do you show a sense of humanity? However the truth comes out, my wish is that Faul still be respected for his accomplishments, while we recognized Paul as the genius that he was. You've got to realize it is possible to be a fan of both artists--there's no need to destroy one to exalt the other. And, though I do not believe that that is ever going to happen, i.e., an "outing" for lack of a more palatable word, it occurs to me that it isn't a bad idea for a sort of safety net to be in place in order to avoid that kind of reaction. Does that make sense? To say this clearer, I am with you in that there should be a "buttress"(?) up as a safe guard against the potential of a public mis-understanding, or mis-appreciation. [Which spell checker tells me is NOT a word but I beg to differ--all those d****d little red dashes all over my posts. Just let me spell it my way, alright!] I suppose if Paul were alive, and wanted to be exalted, he would not have opted out of the public eye, less'n of course it wasn't his choice to make either way, in which case, he has been protected from the nightmare of fame in a sometimes savage world. If he is, indeed, dead, he perhaps enjoys more fame now (even if vicariously), with William present than if they had allowed to shock the kiddies with the traumatic news. We'd be a generation of Beatle kids grown up all bitter from being struck en masse by a psychic blow of Eppy proportions---------instead, we got Kennedy, VietNam, riots, MLK and RFK. [As a result, some of us boomer kids can sometimes behave like a generation of PMSing, Post-Traumatic Stress Disordering, ADH'ing, DDS-ing, MPD'ing, dissociative, OCD Mind Control Victims from the hellish pits of some Montauk/Tavistock/Area 51 installation. And, hey, maybe some of us are! But forget it! Snap out of it and move on. If you start to enjoy life and act warm and human, your covert handlers will quickly become bored with you and cross you off their lists. If you stop feeling and acting crazy, you have no further value to these alleged programs, and you'll be passed over for younger, nuttier candidates. Laugh, tell a joke, do someone a favor everyday. That'll wipe out the conditioning and the magic, and you'll be fine. Chances are, you aren't in the program anyway, because there weren't enough openings and you were bounced out. Rejoice.] No, the first priority is that William and Paul maintain, period. Take that in the positive sense. The second priority is that respect and appreciation is accorded across the board for the Beatle family. And, yes, that includes Yoko. She was Pro-John all the way, and so are we. Her children love her; we do not know her. We only know headlines and news stories. The news people don't always show the positive parts. If the PTB come up with a genius way to let "Bill go home again" while maintaining public reverence, so be it. If not, we'll help him "carry that weight" in whatever way possible................ I mean, if one of you just has to go for blood----stop a minute. Look at this Anna Nicole mess. That is a flaming, awful, tragic, pathetic story put in the most blinding spotlight. Frankly, I don't even look at he tabloids at the Kroger for the ugly glare on the front page. I do NOT want to see this kind of crap fly in another situation, comprendez-vous? I really don't believe it ever would..........but my opinion is, don't nurse that as a goal. Does anyone seriously want to see "William go down?" I don't think so. If you do, perhaps another website would be a better place, no offense, but the theme here is one of looking conjecturally into possibilities based on what we observe about clues that appear to exist intentionally in the PR record of Beatle works. If you are on an evidentiary path based on empirical evidence you gained OUTSIDE that parameter, then either call Scotland Yard, or create: www.spitefullybringingfauldown.proboards783.organd see how many like minded individuals you attract. Inevitably, someone will counter with: www.spitefullybringingfauldownWATCHGROUP.proboards787.nethosted by web people known as "DefenderoftheFaul", "spitebuster#9", "MotherMary", "JudefortheDefense", and yes, even Yoko Ono, because even she adores the man. And why do we all appreciate him? Research is proving that we are dealing here with a truly great fellow. We realize that a regrettable public misunderstanding would be the exact WRONG thing to happen. So, let's add that to our personal lists, whoever has one, of mandates or missions. Rule Number 2. Do NOT set out to embarrass the good guys. Find someone else who actually is a jerk if you simply must embarrass somebody. It could be a cold winter. Do you have a fireplace? If you run low on logs, consider tossing all your evidence into the flames, where such incendiary materials are used in a way that benefits everybody. iamaphony You mean well and you're a nice guy, and insightful, and probably on target. But IMO, rest the bow and keep the arrows in your quiver. Please stay amongst us and post, you're OK!
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Post by lili on Oct 2, 2006 11:24:40 GMT -5
iamaphoney & Goobers, it seems that my stance falls smack in the middle of both of you. ;D
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Post by Blll on Oct 2, 2006 12:25:20 GMT -5
iamaphoney & Goobers, it seems that my stance falls smack in the middle of both of you. ;D interesting thinking, and thank you for the words, anyway, in the next year everything will be revealed I guess,and Paul is still with us paul have been paul much longer than paul, In public mind paul is paul so there will be a mindblowing change on the view of the beatles imagine that!, is paul ready to admit that he is not paul after all?
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Post by lili on Oct 2, 2006 12:58:50 GMT -5
I honestly don't care if he's ready or not. It has to happen in order for some people to finally have "closure". I think that 40 years is WAYYYYY too long for this to have gone on.
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Post by Doc on Oct 2, 2006 13:17:45 GMT -5
iamaphoney & Goobers, it seems that my stance falls smack in the middle of both of you. ;D If you start to lean, warn us so we can get out of the way real fast. ;D OK, just kidding, you know we'll prop you up if you begin to teeter. ? Or is that, "totter?"
You say teeter, and I say totter, You say feeder, and I say fodder, Teeter, totter, feeder, fodder, Let's Call the Whole Thing Ralph?
You say prestigious, and I say three stooges, You say Redundant, and I say Rodan din't, Debentures, But Dentures, Moustachio, Pistachio, Let's Call the Whole Thing-------Half.
But oh! I never realized what fun a pun can be! Till you, a-'rhyming came along to chase me up a' tree.
You say Attilla, and I say Othello,, You say Flotilla and I say Patella, A Gumbo! A Kimbo! A Dumbo! A Bimbo! Let's Call the Whole Thing...........Shirley.
Sorry, Ladies and Gentlemen, that was an outbreak of "Broadway Tourettes." It can strike anyone, anywhere, anytime. Don't become a statistic. Know the Four Deadly Warning Signs: (1) Bursting into lyrics from "Cabaret" or "My Fair Lady" at inappropriate times, (2) Stands in fifth position while preparing the breath for a high "C", (3) high kicks and sweeping arm movements while boarding public transportation, and (4) talking incessantly about Stephen Sondheim's immortal score to "Follies" while wearing a beaded gown and sequined cloche. The final tragic stages are marked by signature Bob Fosse dance combinations while belting out "Steam Heat."
If you know anyone who has any of these signs, please urge them to contact their nearest Liza Minnelli* Memorial Help Center, founded and dedicated to all those who just can't stop being "on" all the time..........
*Oh, Liza is alive and well, but she has become the Patron Saint of Stage Performers who suffer from this incurable melody.
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Post by Doc on Oct 2, 2006 13:24:18 GMT -5
I honestly don't care if he's ready or not. It has to happen in order for some people to finally have "closure". I think that 40 years is WAYYYYY too long for this to have gone on. Well, he alone has the power to pull the masque. (That's gonna hurt. Think of all that crazy glue holding it on.....) Closure? Closure is a wonderful thing when at last it arrives.
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Post by Doc on Oct 2, 2006 13:31:07 GMT -5
iamaphoney & Goobers, it seems that my stance falls smack in the middle of both of you. ;D interesting thinking, and thank you for the words, anyway, in the next year everything will be revealed I guess,and Paul is still with us paul have been paul much longer than paul, In public mind paul is paul so there will be a mindblowing change on the view of the beatles imagine that!, is paul ready to admit that he is not paul after all? Well, if your prediction come true, I hope they give Paul a nice parachute and a featherbed for his landing.He's been up and "Flying" for 40 years-----every plane must refuel. I don't think this will come out really. But, if it is true that he "learned to be Paul in time", then it seems, he could "learn to be William again."
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Post by beatlies on Oct 2, 2006 14:50:46 GMT -5
interesting thinking, and thank you for the words, anyway, in the next year everything will be revealed I guess,and Paul is still with us paul have been paul much longer than paul, In public mind paul is paul so there will be a mindblowing change on the view of the beatles imagine that!, is paul ready to admit that he is not paul after all? Well, if your prediction come true, I hope they give Paul a nice parachute and a featherbed for his landing.He's been up and "Flying" for 40 years-----every plane must refuel. I don't think this will come out really. But, if it is true that he "learned to be Paul in time", then it seems, he could "learn to be William again." It looks like the familiar "Bill"/Vivian Stanshall Faul has already been replaced this year with a new, more roundheaded Faul actor. In the year of the 'When I'm 64" anniversary. The "Creative Destruction" album was his last album in the "McCartney" role. Maybe they are going to have him doing a Bush Jr. Double role soon (or he's already been doing this?) Remember his 2005 post-nuclear tsunami/inhoguration Superbowl "live und let die" special, with Bush Sr. in watchful attendance.
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Post by il ras on Dec 3, 2006 21:03:28 GMT -5
just to say that I finally re-uploaded the pics in the first post of this thread
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Post by mysteryboy on Jun 21, 2007 5:33:35 GMT -5
On keeping things to yourself... I'll admit that I do it-- not because I'm out for any personal gain or that I want to put the screws to anybody--but only because I'm trying to be carefull. Really there has been too much hurt and pain already. If you really have enough to bring Faul down and make him look like a fool-- do you?. Or do you show a sense of humanity? However the truth comes out, my wish is that Faul still be respected for his accomplishments, while we recognized Paul as the genius that he was. You've got to realize it is possible to be a fan of both artists--there's no need to destroy one to exalt the other. And, though I do not believe that that is ever going to happen, i.e., an "outing" for lack of a more palatable word, it occurs to me that it isn't a bad idea for a sort of safety net to be in place in order to avoid that kind of reaction. Does that make sense? To say this clearer, I am with you in that there should be a "buttress"(?) up as a safe guard against the potential of a public mis-understanding, or mis-appreciation. [Which spell checker tells me is NOT a word but I beg to differ--all those d****d little red dashes all over my posts. Just let me spell it my way, alright!] I suppose if Paul were alive, and wanted to be exalted, he would not have opted out of the public eye, less'n of course it wasn't his choice to make either way, in which case, he has been protected from the nightmare of fame in a sometimes savage world. If he is, indeed, dead, he perhaps enjoys more fame now (even if vicariously), with William present than if they had allowed to shock the kiddies with the traumatic news. We'd be a generation of Beatle kids grown up all bitter from being struck en masse by a psychic blow of Eppy proportions---------instead, we got Kennedy, VietNam, riots, MLK and RFK. [As a result, some of us boomer kids can sometimes behave like a generation of PMSing, Post-Traumatic Stress Disordering, ADH'ing, DDS-ing, MPD'ing, dissociative, OCD Mind Control Victims from the hellish pits of some Montauk/Tavistock/Area 51 installation. And, hey, maybe some of us are! But forget it! Snap out of it and move on. If you start to enjoy life and act warm and human, your covert handlers will quickly become bored with you and cross you off their lists. If you stop feeling and acting crazy, you have no further value to these alleged programs, and you'll be passed over for younger, nuttier candidates. Laugh, tell a joke, do someone a favor everyday. That'll wipe out the conditioning and the magic, and you'll be fine. Chances are, you aren't in the program anyway, because there weren't enough openings and you were bounced out. Rejoice.] No, the first priority is that William and Paul maintain, period. Take that in the positive sense. The second priority is that respect and appreciation is accorded across the board for the Beatle family. And, yes, that includes Yoko. She was Pro-John all the way, and so are we. Her children love her; we do not know her. We only know headlines and news stories. The news people don't always show the positive parts. If the PTB come up with a genius way to let "Bill go home again" while maintaining public reverence, so be it. If not, we'll help him "carry that weight" in whatever way possible................ I mean, if one of you just has to go for blood----stop a minute. Look at this Anna Nicole mess. That is a flaming, awful, tragic, pathetic story put in the most blinding spotlight. Frankly, I don't even look at he tabloids at the Kroger for the ugly glare on the front page. I do NOT want to see this kind of crap fly in another situation, comprendez-vous? I really don't believe it ever would..........but my opinion is, don't nurse that as a goal. Does anyone seriously want to see "William go down?" I don't think so. If you do, perhaps another website would be a better place, no offense, but the theme here is one of looking conjecturally into possibilities based on what we observe about clues that appear to exist intentionally in the PR record of Beatle works. If you are on an evidentiary path based on empirical evidence you gained OUTSIDE that parameter, then either call Scotland Yard, or create: www.spitefullybringingfauldown.proboards783.organd see how many like minded individuals you attract. Inevitably, someone will counter with: www.spitefullybringingfauldownWATCHGROUP.proboards787.nethosted by web people known as "DefenderoftheFaul", "spitebuster#9", "MotherMary", "JudefortheDefense", and yes, even Yoko Ono, because even she adores the man. And why do we all appreciate him? Research is proving that we are dealing here with a truly great fellow. We realize that a regrettable public misunderstanding would be the exact WRONG thing to happen. So, let's add that to our personal lists, whoever has one, of mandates or missions. Rule Number 2. Do NOT set out to embarrass the good guys. Find someone else who actually is a jerk if you simply must embarrass somebody. It could be a cold winter. Do you have a fireplace? If you run low on logs, consider tossing all your evidence into the flames, where such incendiary materials are used in a way that benefits everybody. iamaphony You mean well and you're a nice guy, and insightful, and probably on target. But IMO, rest the bow and keep the arrows in your quiver. Please stay amongst us and post, you're OK! Nice post, Doc`.
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Post by mommybird on Jun 21, 2007 9:40:36 GMT -5
Jai wrote:
However the truth comes out, my wish is that Faul still be respected for his accomplishments, while we recognized Paul as the genius that he was. You've got to realize it is possible to be a fan of both artists--there's no need to destroy one to exalt the other.
I couldn't have worded that better myself. My sentiments exactly !
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