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Post by xpt626 on Jun 17, 2004 6:54:25 GMT -5
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Post by FlamingPie on Jun 17, 2004 10:14:58 GMT -5
It's one thing to look so much like someone, people think it's that person, but it's another thing to have an exact replica of someone's eyes.
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Post by jonna on Jun 17, 2004 11:08:58 GMT -5
but thats the point your the only one that sees an exact replica, the rest of us don't
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Post by xpt626 on Jun 17, 2004 11:16:55 GMT -5
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Post by FlamingPie on Jun 17, 2004 14:42:14 GMT -5
but thats the point your the only one that sees an exact replica, the rest of us don't Okay, then tell me what the differences are.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 17, 2004 14:56:29 GMT -5
Okay, then tell me what the differences are. Well, for one, Paul's eyes are set wider apart in proportion to his face.
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Post by jonna on Jun 17, 2004 18:22:29 GMT -5
Okay, then tell me what the differences are. should i run through it all for you cause as far as i can tell you don't agree with anything we say anyways so whats the point... its like flogging a dead horse and if people don't jump to attention for you, you stomp your feet until we respond out of frustration its like a low grade sorta tension headache dealing with this
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Post by FlamingPie on Jun 17, 2004 18:30:49 GMT -5
should i run through it all for you cause as far as i can tell you don't agree with anything we say anyways so whats the point... its like flogging a dead horse and if people don't jump to attention for you, you stomp your feet until we respond out of frustration its like a low grade sorta tension headache dealing with this I was talking about the eye comparison I posted.
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Post by jonna on Jun 17, 2004 18:42:13 GMT -5
yeah i'm aware of what you were talking about.. and i'm telling you that no matter what anyone says to you your still going to disagree so why not just look at the pictures, make up your own mind and stop proding people to respond to a posts just cause you don't feel that we answered the questions to your satisfaction. its becoming tiresome
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Post by SimMHoward on Jun 17, 2004 19:00:55 GMT -5
and you act like you're not close minded to ideas? You're just as closed to PIA as I am to PID, and some mods have gotten hostile to the fact that a few PIAers remain and continue pointing out flaws, wake up, we're not the only ones at fault here and we're not the only ones who are stubborn, maybe you should step back and look at our proof?
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Post by jonna on Jun 17, 2004 19:06:39 GMT -5
whoo back the truck up.. don't tell me what i do or do not believe or how open or closed my mind is. You don't know me from jack. The post to flaming pie was directed at him as someone who pounds away at a subject even after we have said that some things can't be explained from a poaky, grainly little pic. It wasn't directed at skeptics so just chill ok
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 17, 2004 19:18:40 GMT -5
and you act like you're not close minded to ideas? You're just as closed to PIA as I am to PID, and some mods have gotten hostile to the fact that a few PIAers remain and continue pointing out flaws, wake up, we're not the only ones at fault here and we're not the only ones who are stubborn, maybe you should step back and look at our proof? we don't have to believe PIA to be open to ideas. I am very open-minded and i think it requires more open-mindedness to believe PID than the other, which is obvious. there are flaws in everything but the evidence for PID is far greater than for PIA imo and that's why i am here. and i have seen no 'proof' offered by PIA's here or anywhere.
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Post by xpt626 on Jun 17, 2004 19:25:43 GMT -5
I can't speak for the other mods, but I am not interested in your "proof". I have resolved this situation in my own mind to my satisfaction. Nothing you have to say is going to change what I think. I also have no interest in changing anyone else's mind. It's very simple --- either you see it , or you don't. Just like the people who cannot distinguish between Eva Gabor and Zsa Zsa Gabor (if you aren't old enough to know who they are, do a Google). You constantly see photos of Eva mislabeled as Zsa Zsa, and vice-versa --- even on professional celebrity photographers' sites. If you are so convinced PIA, it seems you would be happier at another forum. The amount of time you spend here is quite excessive for someone who seems to disagree with so much of what is being discussed. As far as being "closed minded to ideas", I also have no interest in spending my time trying to placate someone who throws a tantrum wanting to know why "Person X" was made a moderator of this board instead of them ( as if) , and "who" this-and-that person is. The moderators were and are put in place specifically for reasons that are perfectly clear to the administration of this board. If they aren't clear to everyone else --- they don't have to be. I am in a "mood" now from this disruptive behavior and will remind anyone who wants to continue in a hostile manner that this is "Nothing is Real" boot camp as far as I am concerned. I can and will hit that BAN button and have no guilt whatsoever about doing so. I don't want to hear the "opinions" or "freedom of speech" arguments. I am tired of Excederin moments from certain people here, and if it doesn't STOP, they can find themselves another forum in which to spend their time pissing and moaning. I think I make myself perfectly clear.
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Post by SimMHoward on Jun 17, 2004 19:34:25 GMT -5
if my opinion bothers you that much than please do feel free to ban me, a threat and excercising such powers won't intimidate me into no posting my opinions, very rarely have I been impolite to anyone on this board, I admit it has happened, but rarely, I've posted my thoughts and I've tried to back them up as best I can given the circumstances, I'm out numbered 10 to 1. I don't know what gave you the idea that I want mod, or that I don't think someone who is a mod deserves it, quite the contrary I have agreed with your decisions on moderator, I've just had conflicts with some in the past. You may not like my presence and you may not like my arguments, but they're there for all to see and if I stay I plan to continue, now, I'll say this, 60IF has one thing on you, they're honest about how they feel about skeptics, they lie about almost everything, but that is true if nothing else, you could learn that lesson from them.
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Post by jonna on Jun 17, 2004 19:44:15 GMT -5
60IF is honest hahahaha isn't that an oxymoron
as for anyone saying you had been rude, noone did.. you chose to get involved in something that was not directed at you and you assumed you knew what i was thinking or what i believe when in reality what you were responding to was something that was only for flaming pie. the one person who feels that eyesbleed shouldn't be mod and wants to know who the hell jonna is to be admin. like i said its one of those annoying throbbing headaches that never ends.
if you choose to jump on the band wagon feel free but this particular post to flaming wasn't PID or PIA related but was a clash in personalities
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Post by SimMHoward on Jun 17, 2004 19:52:30 GMT -5
I'm not jumping on any band wagon, but you basically(as I interpreted it) told fp that you didn't know why the skeptics were here, I merely posted an answer, then XPT made a post after mine, which I thought was addressed in response to my post, thats all.
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Post by jonna on Jun 17, 2004 19:54:37 GMT -5
maybe you should read it again because that is not what i said. In fact i didn't even say one word about skeptics..
you really shouldn't assume it makes an ass out of u and me
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Post by xpt626 on Jun 17, 2004 19:55:23 GMT -5
......I don't know what gave you the idea that I want mod, or that I don't think someone who is a mod deserves it, I wasn't referring to you.
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Post by DarkHorse on Jun 17, 2004 20:02:51 GMT -5
Keep in mind WMWY that this IS a PID board. Yes i know you can state your opinion but the mods here are saying that they are tired of the games and double talk associated with many of those asking for 'proof' for PID. and don't act like you don't know what I am talking about.
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Post by SimMHoward on Jun 17, 2004 20:18:49 GMT -5
I know what you mean, but I've always been direct, I've never played games, or anything like that, if you are referring to me, maybe I haven't posted a million pics and sound clips that prove me right (I still don't believe I have to) but I've been working on something big for a long time, and as soon as its finished I'll put it up, so just be patient for my lack of proof for a bit
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Post by FlamingPie on Jun 17, 2004 22:03:47 GMT -5
I suggest to the mods that you lock this thread before things get out of hand. I'm sorry if I did anything to start this.
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Post by jpm4266 on Jun 18, 2004 3:02:10 GMT -5
Here's the Life mag cover, the pic harb posted is slightly different it seems. May have been another shot. Also a closeup of the man in question.. Harb's pic looks like someone with a glass eye. (but that can't be, can it??)
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Post by eyesbleed on Jun 18, 2004 7:36:59 GMT -5
if my opinion bothers you that much than please do feel free to ban me, a threat and excercising such powers won't intimidate me into no posting my opinions, very rarely have I been impolite to anyone on this board, I admit it has happened, but rarely, I've posted my thoughts and I've tried to back them up as best I can given the circumstances, I'm out numbered 10 to 1. I don't know what gave you the idea that I want mod, or that I don't think someone who is a mod deserves it, quite the contrary I have agreed with your decisions on moderator, I've just had conflicts with some in the past. You may not like my presence and you may not like my arguments, but they're there for all to see and if I stay I plan to continue, now, I'll say this, 60IF has one thing on you, they're honest about how they feel about skeptics, they lie about almost everything, but that is true if nothing else, you could learn that lesson from them. Talk about bad timing & misunderstanding! This had nothing to do with PIA, or PIA-er's, or you. Have you considered goin' back & re-reading this entire thread? Maybe then you'd have a better idea where some of us are coming from. I don't recall anybody ever having a problem with you being here..... And we usually don't have any problems with FP either. Having some folks around to represent the opposing view is a good thing. FP continued pushin' a point that I, for one, found to be rather pointless. It get's old running circles around the same ol'tree... it gets you nowhere. It seems like FP would really like to convert some of us to PIA apparently, but most of us are very solid in our convictions on this. I've seen way more than I need to see to know there was a switch..... & I don't have time for arguing the same point over & over. And I see FP's even apologized....... so I'm assuming this is pretty much over & ..... no FP, this isn't the type of forum that would let something like this spiral out of control....so there's no need to lock this thread that I can see.
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Post by xpt626 on Jun 18, 2004 8:30:44 GMT -5
....this isn't the type of forum that would let something like this spiral out of control....so there's no need to lock this thread that I can see. very well put, Eyesbleed.
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Post by AUSTON on Jun 18, 2004 11:11:21 GMT -5
Very well put, Eyesbleed.
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