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Post by il ras on Feb 14, 2006 18:16:56 GMT -5
Three profiles one next to the other And a bunch of green faces...... Must be said that human brain tends to see faces everywhere
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Post by plastic paul on Feb 14, 2006 19:19:00 GMT -5
Ever seen subliminal messages in advertising for alcohol?
They tend to be ghostly/deathly faces.
It's not just me who sees them, many others do, and the message is clear...
Heavy drinkers tend to die a sad, lonely death.
Don't get me wrong I am not an anti-alcohol person, I in fact go out for a few (hmmm...) beers most nights! (Then really regret it in the morn!)
Those faces are imbedded there for a reason so why not the ones on the album covers etc.?
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Post by TotalInformation on Feb 15, 2006 1:25:09 GMT -5
I don't have any comments on the images yet. IN fact I have questions about them I will address momentarily.
I agree with the comments that this kind of tech was military-level in 1967. Tony Bramwell reported in his new book on how when EMI's newest foreign recording equipment was delivered, it was immediately whisked away to a British military labs... so there is a link there.
But if I read correctly, it seems that 2-3 confirmed West-Coast copies and one US pressing of indeterminate origin have this feature.
The West-Coast pressing angle is particularly interesting and it's likely no mistake that the man who revealed this was an astronaut. (Which one, BTW?) In SoCal was the high-tech NASA research facility, Jet Propulsion Laboratory. The founder of JPL was Crowley (Pepper cover) succesor as head of the SoCal OTO. The OTO was/is the controlling occult mechanism of Hollywood ... we see it expressed today in Scientology, etc.
Anyway, if certain old pressings of Pepper came from NASA's JPL, it would make a certain sense. Don't forget the top technicians in charge of faking the moon landings put "clues" in the photo(shop)s.
When deciphering the images, it mind be important to recall that advanced researchers on another PID forum concluded that JPM's remains were aboard NASA's Gemini 12. You might look for some corollaries there with the blacklight imagery. Also, look to the cover of the Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed album, which is a representation of Gemini 12.
Questions on the images so far -- are these images of a static record? Or is it rotating? At what RPM? How close are the images posted to the forum to what you're seeing in meatspace?
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Post by mysteryboy on Feb 15, 2006 3:31:54 GMT -5
I don't have any comments on the images yet. IN fact I have questions about them I will address momentarily. I agree with the comments that this kind of tech was military-level in 1967. Tony Bramwell reported in his new book on how when EMI's newest foreign recording equipment was delivered, it was immediately whisked away to a British military labs... so there is a link there. But if I read correctly, it seems that 2-3 confirmed West-Coast copies and one US pressing of indeterminate origin have this feature. The West-Coast pressing angle is particularly interesting and it's likely no mistake that the man who revealed this was an astronaut. (Which one, BTW?) In SoCal was the high-tech NASA research facility, Jet Propulsion Laboratory. The founder of JPL was Crowley (Pepper cover) succesor as head of the SoCal OTO. The OTO was/is the controlling occult mechanism of Hollywood ... we see it expressed today in Scientology, etc. Anyway, if certain old pressings of Pepper came from NASA's JPL, it would make a certain sense. Don't forget the top technicians in charge of faking the moon landings put "clues" in the photo(shop)s. When deciphering the images, it mind be important to recall that advanced researchers on another PID forum concluded that JPM's remains were aboard NASA's Gemini 12. You might look for some corollaries there with the blacklight imagery. Also, look to the cover of the Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed album, which is a representation of Gemini 12. Questions on the images so far -- are these images of a static record? Or is it rotating? At what RPM? How close are the images posted to the forum to what you're seeing in meatspace? Moody Blues: when they recorded "To our Childrens Children's Children" on their then new "Threshold" label, it was recorded in their new studio which was partially assembled from technology given to them by NASA. (Great album,imo). NAsa correllations: there are sections that look like the lunar surfave (craters). There are also spots that look like you are flying above a seaside village. There is one area that looks very Tolkien. And there are at least 2 photographs of real faces, close and clear. I want to get those faces next. Maybe someone here knows who they are. The images presented so far are taken with the LP stationary. I am mostly shooting in macro mode, about 3 inches from the surface (and no doubt breathing in something with a very long half-life) with the UV light between 6-12 inches from the surface. When I get time I will be using film, ahigh magnification lens, and tripod, so the images will be sharper. The better images are too light to capture with the current method as the exposures are too long for hand-held shooting. Good points, Plastic Paul and everyone else.
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Post by lili on Feb 15, 2006 10:50:11 GMT -5
mysteryboy, that first one did capture my attention. As I stated in my post, I did get some spectacular results when I took photos in local cemetaries. I was VERY surprised. Some of the things that I captured looked alot like what you're getting. Now, what does that mean ? I have NO idea, unfortunately. It's hard to say if what you're seeing was put there by man or by spirit. Either way, someone is trying to get our attention. Someone is trying to show us things, to tell us what really happened. Again, the fact that what you're getting seems to look alot like what I got could just be a coincidence I'll have to dig, but I will try to find some of those photos so that everyone can see for themselves what I'm talking about. I took photos on many different occasions. As can be expected, only a few could be deemed "spectacular"
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Post by JoJo on Feb 15, 2006 19:57:10 GMT -5
Yikes! Be careful. But you may be correct, in that it still "glows" after all these years. It's difficult to believe some ordinary consumer product would produce the same effect after 40 years.
Cats are able to perceive frequencies that our eyes cannot, that's a fact. He/she appears to perceive something harmful or at least very unusual as well..
Btw, the Moodies are great, I bought a lot of their early vinyl just for the album art, as well as the one with Denny of course.
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Post by beatlies on Feb 15, 2006 20:16:17 GMT -5
Yikes! Be careful. But you may be correct, in that it still "glows" after all these years. It's difficult to believe some ordinary consumer product would produce the same effect after 40 years. Cats are able to perceive frequencies that our eyes cannot, that's a fact. He/she appears to perceive something harmful or at least very unusual as well.. Btw, the Moodies are great, I bought a lot of their early vinyl just for the album art, as well as the one with Denny of course. I looked into the Sgt. Pepper radioactive/ chemical possibilities a few weeks ago ... radium is described in various places as glowing green, white, yellowish or bluish (maybe the color depends on the other substances in the radium paint) in the dark, not in UV light, and is not something you want near your face. Uranium is also mildly radioactive and glows yellow ... the two fluorescent colors on the vinyl are green and yellow in UV light right? It could be interesting to test the record with a Geiger counter or dosimeter. However there are many chemicals that naturally fluoresce and are not radioactive, and do not stop fluorescing even after many years. So you cannot automatically conclude that the painting chemicals used are unhealthy to be around. Are the posters produced in the 1960s that glow under UV light still fluorescing? I haven't heard of any products form whom the ability to glow in black light fades over the years. Edit: I found the "Physics 110: Answer" comments in boldface on a website. One question I have Mysteryboy, is whether there is any trace of the vinyl glowing in the dark WITHOUT a UV light, even a very faint indication? Physics 110: Answer
Fall Term, 2001
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A lot of glow-in-the-dark products are sold in shops nowadays. One example is the glow-in-the-dark stars that one can paste on ceilings and walls. How do these products work? How is the material able to absorb light and then "release" it in the dark? Is radiation playing a role here? -- See Boon Goh
There are no radioactive substances in glow in the dark objects. Though I hear that there used to be. Instead these objects work by absorbing the light that shines upon them when there are lights on and then are able to "hold on" to this energy for a few minutes or even hours before re-emitting the light. So if you shut the lights off they will continue to emit light for well after light has been shining on them. This is unusual because most objects absorb light and then almost instantly re-emit light.
All this happens because atoms and molecules receive and emit energy like light in discrete lumps (quanta), so that there are certain possible energy levels that atoms and molecules could be at. Glow in the dark objects absorb light and then the probability for them to emit the light out again at any certain time interval is very low so that it takes a long time for all the light to be emitted.
-- S. Burkhart
It's true--older glow-in-the-dark products had radioactive radium in them. I gather that expensive watches still use this. I've heard reports of factory workers (e.g., at watch/clock-making plant) being exposed to too much radium and developing cancer! In all cases, it's a phosphor that radiates the green glow. Same stuff that's on oscilloscope tubes, and similar to the stuff on TV screens and coating fluorescent lights. Glow-in-the-dark toys utilize phosphors that have a long persistance. Even the radium-powered products use phosphors to convert the radiated light into the soft green glow you see.
-- T. Murphy
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Post by mysteryboy on Feb 16, 2006 4:01:18 GMT -5
mysteryboy, that first one did capture my attention. As I stated in my post, I did get some spectacular results when I took photos in local cemetaries. I was VERY surprised. Some of the things that I captured looked alot like what you're getting. Now, what does that mean ? I have NO idea, unfortunately. It's hard to say if what you're seeing was put there by man or by spirit. Either way, someone is trying to get our attention. Someone is trying to show us things, to tell us what really happened. Again, the fact that what you're getting seems to look alot like what I got could just be a coincidence I'll have to dig, but I will try to find some of those photos so that everyone can see for themselves what I'm talking about. I took photos on many different occasions. As can be expected, only a few could be deemed "spectacular" Funny...I use to photograph graveyards as a teenager. Not so much for the graves but the birds and trees as well. I'd love to se your work!
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Post by mysteryboy on Feb 16, 2006 4:03:05 GMT -5
Yikes! Be careful. But you may be correct, in that it still "glows" after all these years. It's difficult to believe some ordinary consumer product would produce the same effect after 40 years. Cats are able to perceive frequencies that our eyes cannot, that's a fact. He/she appears to perceive something harmful or at least very unusual as well.. Btw, the Moodies are great, I bought a lot of their early vinyl just for the album art, as well as the one with Denny of course. I looked into the Sgt. Pepper radioactive/ chemical possibilities a few weeks ago ... radium is described in various places as glowing green, white, yellowish or bluish (maybe the color depends on the other substances in the radium paint) in the dark, not in UV light, and is not something you want near your face. Uranium is also mildly radioactive and glows yellow ... the two fluorescent colors on the vinyl are green and yellow in UV light right? It could be interesting to test the record with a Geiger counter or dosimeter. However there are many chemicals that naturally fluoresce and are not radioactive, and do not stop fluorescing even after many years. So you cannot automatically conclude that the painting chemicals used are unhealthy to be around. Are the posters produced in the 1960s that glow under UV light still fluorescing? I haven't heard of any products form whom the ability to glow in black light fades over the years. Edit: I found the "Physics 110: Answer" comments in boldface on a website. One question I have Mysteryboy, is whether there is any trace of the vinyl glowing in the dark WITHOUT a UV light, even a very faint indication? Physics 110: Answer
Fall Term, 2001
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A lot of glow-in-the-dark products are sold in shops nowadays. One example is the glow-in-the-dark stars that one can paste on ceilings and walls. How do these products work? How is the material able to absorb light and then "release" it in the dark? Is radiation playing a role here? -- See Boon Goh
There are no radioactive substances in glow in the dark objects. Though I hear that there used to be. Instead these objects work by absorbing the light that shines upon them when there are lights on and then are able to "hold on" to this energy for a few minutes or even hours before re-emitting the light. So if you shut the lights off they will continue to emit light for well after light has been shining on them. This is unusual because most objects absorb light and then almost instantly re-emit light.
All this happens because atoms and molecules receive and emit energy like light in discrete lumps (quanta), so that there are certain possible energy levels that atoms and molecules could be at. Glow in the dark objects absorb light and then the probability for them to emit the light out again at any certain time interval is very low so that it takes a long time for all the light to be emitted.
-- S. Burkhart
It's true--older glow-in-the-dark products had radioactive radium in them. I gather that expensive watches still use this. I've heard reports of factory workers (e.g., at watch/clock-making plant) being exposed to too much radium and developing cancer! In all cases, it's a phosphor that radiates the green glow. Same stuff that's on oscilloscope tubes, and similar to the stuff on TV screens and coating fluorescent lights. Glow-in-the-dark toys utilize phosphors that have a long persistance. Even the radium-powered products use phosphors to convert the radiated light into the soft green glow you see.
-- T. Murphy Thank you JoJo and Beatles, for your concern and effort to research that.
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Post by lili on Feb 16, 2006 10:52:52 GMT -5
JoJo, that is true. How very strange, indeed. Great work, Beatlies ! mysteryboy, well I don't have time to look through all of my photos. I have a ton of them. I did look through a few & found these. I think that they're cool. If nothing else, it's fun to look at them & see what you see I think the weirdest thing about my getting involved with that was how it happened.I was on the computer one day & I was bored. So, since I had been interested in the paranormal, sci-fi, & all that kind of stuff since I was a kid, I decided to see if there were any cool ghost photos online. I found a few really interesting websites. I thought the photos looked authentic enough. I copied them to my favorites folder & showed my hubby when he got home. He took one look at them & said & I quote - " do you have any idea how easy those photos are to fake ?!" So, I talked him into taking me to a nearby cemetary that weekend so that I could take some photos myself. I was amazed at the results that I got. Talk about getting hooked ! I think that it has alot to do with being open to the experience. I wasn't afraid, & I just went with it. It turned into a fun hobby for a few years. After all, the photos that I took with my digital camera were free ! I took these photos on an overcast day in Oct. 2001, using my digital camera. What I never could understand was why the gravemarkers seemed to change shape, & glowed the way that they did in the photos. For the most part, those gravemarkers are small & white. They're little more than granite slabs.
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Post by mysteryboy on Feb 17, 2006 4:35:38 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing your photos. You have a good eye, as we say. Very strange how the colors are simular...
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Post by lili on Feb 17, 2006 9:36:36 GMT -5
Mysteryboy, it's the same graveyard. That was the one that I went to 1st. It surrounds a small church. It's very rustic There are graves there that date back to our Revolutionary War. If you take those photos & examine them with a magnifying glass, you will see things that I sure didn't see when I took the photos
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Post by JoJo on Feb 19, 2006 10:49:25 GMT -5
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Post by noodles on Feb 19, 2006 14:32:59 GMT -5
Where abouts on this site are the mirrored 'Pepper' sleeve images that people here made showing the walrus and other stuff? I saw them when I first came here and I shaven't been able to find them since.
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Post by JoJo on Feb 19, 2006 18:20:35 GMT -5
Where abouts on this site are the mirrored 'Pepper' sleeve images that people here made showing the walrus and other stuff? I saw them when I first came here and I shaven't been able to find them since. It did drop to page 2 of general, LINK but it's still around.
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Post by noodles on Feb 25, 2006 6:29:58 GMT -5
Where abouts on this site are the mirrored 'Pepper' sleeve images that people here made showing the walrus and other stuff? I saw them when I first came here and I shaven't been able to find them since. It did drop to page 2 of general, LINK but it's still around. Cheers jojo.
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Post by JoJo on Mar 7, 2006 19:41:30 GMT -5
Just moving it here, because the whole world need not know about this. (let's let everyone here have a chance at buying one first)
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Post by mysteryboy on Apr 2, 2006 3:24:37 GMT -5
Yikes! Be careful. But you may be correct, in that it still "glows" after all these years. It's difficult to believe some ordinary consumer product would produce the same effect after 40 years. Cats are able to perceive frequencies that our eyes cannot, that's a fact. He/she appears to perceive something harmful or at least very unusual as well.. Btw, the Moodies are great, I bought a lot of their early vinyl just for the album art, as well as the one with Denny of course. I looked into the Sgt. Pepper radioactive/ chemical possibilities a few weeks ago ... radium is described in various places as glowing green, white, yellowish or bluish (maybe the color depends on the other substances in the radium paint) in the dark, not in UV light, and is not something you want near your face. Uranium is also mildly radioactive and glows yellow ... the two fluorescent colors on the vinyl are green and yellow in UV light right? It could be interesting to test the record with a Geiger counter or dosimeter. However there are many chemicals that naturally fluoresce and are not radioactive, and do not stop fluorescing even after many years. So you cannot automatically conclude that the painting chemicals used are unhealthy to be around. Are the posters produced in the 1960s that glow under UV light still fluorescing? I haven't heard of any products form whom the ability to glow in black light fades over the years. Edit: I found the "Physics 110: Answer" comments in boldface on a website. One question I have Mysteryboy, is whether there is any trace of the vinyl glowing in the dark WITHOUT a UV light, even a very faint indication? Physics 110: Answer
Fall Term, 2001
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A lot of glow-in-the-dark products are sold in shops nowadays. One example is the glow-in-the-dark stars that one can paste on ceilings and walls. How do these products work? How is the material able to absorb light and then "release" it in the dark? Is radiation playing a role here? -- See Boon Goh
There are no radioactive substances in glow in the dark objects. Though I hear that there used to be. Instead these objects work by absorbing the light that shines upon them when there are lights on and then are able to "hold on" to this energy for a few minutes or even hours before re-emitting the light. So if you shut the lights off they will continue to emit light for well after light has been shining on them. This is unusual because most objects absorb light and then almost instantly re-emit light.
All this happens because atoms and molecules receive and emit energy like light in discrete lumps (quanta), so that there are certain possible energy levels that atoms and molecules could be at. Glow in the dark objects absorb light and then the probability for them to emit the light out again at any certain time interval is very low so that it takes a long time for all the light to be emitted.
-- S. Burkhart
It's true--older glow-in-the-dark products had radioactive radium in them. I gather that expensive watches still use this. I've heard reports of factory workers (e.g., at watch/clock-making plant) being exposed to too much radium and developing cancer! In all cases, it's a phosphor that radiates the green glow. Same stuff that's on oscilloscope tubes, and similar to the stuff on TV screens and coating fluorescent lights. Glow-in-the-dark toys utilize phosphors that have a long persistance. Even the radium-powered products use phosphors to convert the radiated light into the soft green glow you see.
-- T. Murphy It just recently struck me that the green pepper image is neither a typical "glow in the dark" medium nor a typical "black light " image. In both of those cases, the images can be seen in normal daylight lighting and/or under indoor lighting. The Pepper image is totally invisible until UV light is introduced. Since none of this behavoir is descibed in the excellent research you posted, nor in my own experience, can we conclude that this is some type of technique unkown to the general public?
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Post by beatlies on Apr 2, 2006 20:41:46 GMT -5
There are "biological markers" used in microbiological research that are only visible in ultraviolet light. Have you hear about the "glowing gene" introduced into genetically enginnered monkeys in Portland, Oregon where they take the glowing gene of a jellyfish and splice it into the poor monkeys' DNA? Fluorescent bacteria with UV glow genes spliced into them are used to trace their colonies for research
Also try googling "chemtrails UV fibers orange biological warfare" .......
So if its possible biologically there must be chemicals that are only visible and in colors that glow, when seen with ultraviolet light. They could be painted onto the discs. I'll look into the possibilities.
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Post by mysteryboy on Apr 2, 2006 21:04:26 GMT -5
There are "biological markers" used in microbiological research that are only visible in ultraviolet light. Have you hear about the "glowing gene" introduced into genetically enginnered monkeys in Portland, Oregon where they take the glowing gene of a jellyfish and splice it into the poor monkeys' DNA? Fluorescent bacteria with UV glow genes spliced into them are used to trace their colonies for research Also try googling "chemtrails UV fibers orange biological warfare" ....... So if its possible biologically there must be chemicals that are only visible and in colors that glow, when seen with ultraviolet light. They could be painted onto the discs. I'll look into the possibilities. Thank you very much, Beatles!
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Post by JoJo on Apr 6, 2006 18:26:02 GMT -5
Well....Hot Damn!! I got one, went into a used record store in Boston, there was a mono Pepper in the Beatles collection, ($24.95) bought it, just looked under the black light, and there it is, in its glowing green glory! Wow! Now..I can't seem to figure this out, but my label says "With a Little Help from My Friends", is the "With" being there the way it's supposed to be or not? I guess some early pressings messed it up, but my non black light Peppers omit the "With".
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Post by mysteryboy on Apr 6, 2006 20:57:04 GMT -5
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Post by TotalInformation on Apr 6, 2006 21:51:53 GMT -5
What do you see when you turn out the light?
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Post by beatlies on Apr 6, 2006 23:01:56 GMT -5
He can't tell you but he knows it's his (in the black light mine-in hills of the Dakota) ...........
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Post by TotalInformation on Apr 7, 2006 13:40:11 GMT -5
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