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Post by superman on Sept 8, 2012 8:56:38 GMT -5
If what's been said of John Phillips is true, "Twelve-thirty (Young Girls Come to the Canyon)" is a rather creepy little ditty.
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Post by B on Sept 8, 2012 11:46:25 GMT -5
"Twelve Thirty" The Mamas & The Papaswww.youtube.com/watch?v=1xa7NWRJjPQI used to live in New York City; Everything there was dark and dirty. Outside my window was a steeple With a clock that always said twelve-thirty. Young girls are coming to the canyon, And in the mornings I can see them walking. I can no longer keep my blinds drawn, And I can't keep myself from talking. At first so strange to feel so friendly - To say good morning and really mean it - To feel these changes happening in me, But not to notice till I feel it. Young girls are coming to the canyon, And in the mornings I can see them walking. I can no longer keep my blinds drawn, And I can't keep myself from talking. Cloudy waters cast no reflection; Images of beauty lie there stagnant. Vibrations bounce in no direction, And lie there shattered into fragments. Young girls are coming to the canyon, (Young girls are in the canyon) And in the mornings I can see them walking. (In the mornings I can see them walking) I can no longer keep my blinds drawn, (Can no longer keep my blinds drawn) And I can't keep myself from talking. bio: www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/The-Mamas-the-Papas-Biography/6AD6262128F985D548256BB900141960
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Post by JoJo on Jun 29, 2014 16:55:57 GMT -5
In case anyone was unaware, Dave McGowan has turned his Laurel Canyon series into a book: www.amazon.com/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122His Facebook page: www.facebook.com/WeirdScenesInsideTheCanyon?fref=nfNow.. Apparently he has been pursued (for lack of a better word) by people he has termed "Faulists". Some posts from his Facebook page: So I've now received correspondence from three different "Faul" researchers. For those not in the know, "Faul" refers to "Fake Paul," the notion that Beatle Paul McCartney died in the late (mid?) 1960s and was replaced with a guy who continues to play the part to this day. I had no idea that so many people devoted their time to that particular line of research. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
So if I'm understanding this correctly, the 'real' Paul was only around long enough to pen a few She Loves Yous and I Want to Hold Your Hands. Then, in 1966, he was replaced by the fake Paul who co-wrote and recorded Sergeant Pepper's, Abbey Road, Yellow Submarine, the White Album, Let It Be and Magical Mystery Tour, along with McCartney's entire solo catalogue of material. This guy then clearly would be considered a musical genius in his own right and has created the vast majority of the music that McCartney is famous for. And yet for nearly a half century, he has been okay with allowing one of the most respected bodies of work in the history of popular music to be credited to a guy who has actually been dead for 48 years? Is that what is being proposed here?
Questions, questions: I'm not a musician myself, but I've known some over the years and I have been told that there are many out there who can listen to a song and know who played the bass guitar, lead guitar, etc. based on their distinctive style of play, just as those of us without musical skills or training can readily identify a favored vocalist. So my question is: are there any actual musicians in the "Faul" movement who have come forward to say that the current Paul McCartney plays nothing like the former Paul McCartney? Also, McCartney was obviously close to a lot of people. Have any of these people - any at all - ever come forward to declare the 'new' Paul McCartney a fraud? Anyone? Extended family members? Childhood friends? Former classmates? Fellow musicians? His doctor, dentist or pastor? Anyone at all? How were all these people fooled and/or silenced? And another question: everything I have thus far found on the topic has claimed that Paul was replaced with a guy who won a lookalike contest. That's all well and good, but how the hell did he learn to precisely mimic Paul's bass playing and singing abilities? One other question: there were a lot of very prominent musicians who died young in that era, depriving their handlers of millions of dollars in lost profits (Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Gram Parsons, etc.) If it was so easy to do, why weren't any of them replaced? Why don't we now have a Frian, and a Fimi, and a Fanis, and a Fim, and a Fram? For that matter, why aren't 'they' still doing it? Why aren't we still getting new music from Furt Cobain? Or from Famy Winehouse? Or from Fayne Staley?
Because it really seems to annoy the Faulists in the crowd (who have labeled me "unprofessional," "childish," "a sell out," and "closed minded"), I have came up with some more facts to add support to my Rim theory: (1) in the final years, "Jim" went through some major changes - putting on weight, growing thick facial hair, and becoming rather reclusive. All of these were obviously strategies employed by Rim to hide from the public. (2) it is a fact that Jim stated that he only had one brief period in his life when he was a songwriter, just before the Doors formed, after which he lost his muse. That's because he was no longer Jim, he was Rim. (3) the song "The End" contains the lyrics "the killer awoke before dawn ... he put his boots on." According to my theory, Jim was killed just before dawn by a guy who had a friend who sometimes wore boots. Coincidence? (4) a few dozen women who were in attendance at the infamous Miami show later came forward to say that the guy on stage was noticeably less well-hung than Jim had been. A press release by the band claimed that "it was a cold night and there was shrinkage." (6) Jim had to be killed off in 1966 because he had discovered that David Crosby had been killed and replaced in 1965. (7) I skipped #5 to make it look like there was more here than what there actually is. (8) I haven't found it yet, but I am certain that there exists a publicity photo of the Doors in which three doors can be seen in the buildings in the background. Where is the fourth door?
In response to some of the comments on the previous thread:
First of all, I am not the one who first brought the "Faul" issue up. As I mentioned previously, I have received a number of emails urging me to get behind the notion that Paul is dead. I have also been asked about it by two different radio hosts on recent appearances - by Jim Fetzer on the air, which caught me by surprise, and by another guy who asked me about it during a break and wanted to cover it on the air but I declined. So I figured that if it was a question that was going to keep coming up, I should look into it to see if there was anything there. Also, it has very recently come to my awareness that there is a gal by the name of Clare Kuehn who has been making the rounds doing radio shows during which she has explicitly tried to draw parallels between her 'work' and mine (I have listened to 6 hours of her interviews and on every occasion she has mentioned me by name and mingled my research with hers). On the show I listened to last night, she mentioned that Doris Day was also replaced, and that some other guy whose name I can't think of was replaced twice! On the previous thread there is a guy claiming that Eric Clapton was replaced. Elsewhere he has claimed that John Denver was replaced as well. Others on this page have claimed that both Michael Jackson and Britney Spears were replaced. Is it really so hard to understand that I do not want my many years of hard work compromised by having people try to link it to the notion that Hollywood is running some kind of a clone factory? I am just trying to protect the integrity of my work. Also, you all have followed my previous work ... right? Because I'm a little confused as to why some of you think that humor, satire and sarcasm are something new that I have added to my repertoire. And just because I am considered a conspiracy theorist does not mean that I buy into every half-baked theory floating around in the cyberworld. I have never been shy about calling out theories and theorists that I think are full of shit, and it is very unlikely that I will change course anytime soon. Again, have you read my previous work? Have you forgotten the heated exchanges with Mike Ruppert and Fucktard, among many others? I'm not in this to make friends or to get rich and famous - I'm in it to tell the truth as I see it. And if people don't want to buy my book because of something they read on this page, then so be it. If they don't appreciate the satire and sarcasm on this page, then they probably aren't going to much like my books anyway.
Peace, out and happy fathers' day to all the dads in the crowd!
Just got this by email today:
"Hi Dave,
I wonder if you could spare me a moment? Just wanted to hit you with a quick query.
I'm a long-standing English radio/ club DJ and writer. A while back I
started producing a series of podcasts under the Good Vibrations
banner, consisting of far-reaching conversations with relevant people. These started out discussing the manipulations and mind control techniques employed in the mainstream music industry, but I've now branched out to encompass all kinds of subjects within the truth/consciousness/spirituality/conspiracy fields ...
I just produced a volume looking into the controversial, but fascinating suggestion that the real Paul McCartney died in 1966 and was replaced by a impostor. That one's here: soundcloud.com/mark-devlin/good-vibrations-podcast-vol-42
I'm aware of your great work on Laurel Canyon and the interesting
backgrounds of many of the musicians from the late 60s era, and would love to do an interview with you on this, (ideally via Skype if
possible,) as it would fit great into the series.
If you could let me know if the idea is of interest, that'd be much
appreciated. If so, we can then hopefully set a mutually convenient
time to record.
All the best,
Mark Devlin"
*Sigh* And some of you wonder why *I* keep bringing this up?
Re my last post: I just listened to just the first few minutes of the interview with Tina Foster, who is apparently the most prominent of the 'Paul is dead' researchers, and couldn't help noticing that she claims she first started seriously looking into the Faul thing in 2008. And it appears that Clare Kuehn, another prominent Faulist, picked up the baton shortly after that. And the Italian edition of Wired magazine weighed in not long after, in 2009, adding fuel to the fire by providing the Faulists with supposed forensic evidence. It seems then that the 'Paul is dead' meme, which had been bouncing around as a marginalized theory since 1969, suddenly became a 'real' conspiracy theory around 2008-2009. Does anyone remember what else happened in 2008? (hint: my Inside the LC series was launched, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence)Well, I beg to differ with that, TKIN was around since about 2003, and NIR a year or so after. I tried emailing Dave McGowan once, but received no response, but that's cool, I get it. He's not interested in this, and the approach that those who have contacted him have taken (aggressive/nagging) is NOT going to do anything but make him dig in his heels. I welcome Dave to join us of course. |
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Post by ramone on Jun 30, 2014 7:32:55 GMT -5
Thanks Jo.
Dave - sarcastic as always.
Always thought he injected some good humor into his stuff
- but also raised some good questions and was thought provoking.
Can't say I agree w/everything - fun reading for the most part tho.
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Post by hotman637 on Jun 30, 2014 11:03:47 GMT -5
The Laurel Canyon series was BRILLIANT! My question is why someone that is smart enough to put together a theory that rock and roll was invented by the military and CIA and they ALL lived in Laural Canyon not able to see that most of the rock stars from the 60's and 70's were replaced? IMO it is FAR easier to see that people were replaced than see that the CIA invented rock and roll. And of course if the CIA invented rock and roll than why not replace people? In addition he says that killing Jim Morrison, Micheal Jackson, Elvis etc. cost their handlers money! Just the opposite is true! Those people are worth FAR, FAR more dead than alive. AND what has been stated many times they ALL may have faked their deaths to get out of the rat race and they make more money than when they were "alive". I think a lot of people forget rock and roll is a BUSINESS and should be seen that way. To me the problem is not that MacFake and others are "tribute artist's" but they LIE ABOUT IT. It is simple case of "bait and switch" and they should be prosecuted for it.
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Post by JoJo on Jun 30, 2014 16:47:50 GMT -5
What's interesting is that Dave makes the rather provocative claim that many artists besides The Monkees did the same thing they did, i.e. used session musicians to make the albums and then performed live with the purported members of the group. I forget the names, but some big ones as I recall. (not the Beatles though)
Why isn't he interested? Well, perhaps if everyone wanting to introduce him to the topic wasn't browbeating him from all angles. I mean, if were him, and I'd never thought about this as anything other than an urban legend and I was inundated on all sides like that?? Forget it!
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Post by ramone on Jun 30, 2014 18:21:24 GMT -5
First ones that come to mind are the beach boys.
They could play live but brought in studio people
for recording.
I thought of Hal Blaine (drummer) being a well used guy.
My bro (a guitarist) filled me in on the 'Wrecking Crew"
quite a while back - said they were amazing and
used by lots of groups.
(incl b boys I think)
I believe the Crew stayed out of site - just doing their thing
behind closed doors.
When you consider how these bands wanted a more polished sound
for records - it's not out of the realm of possibility
that a Bernard Purdie could have been brought in at some point
to do his (drummer) thing early on for the Beatles.
Uh oh, probably just opened a can o'worms.
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Post by B on Oct 8, 2015 12:04:03 GMT -5
 Gail Zappa January 1, 1945 - October 7, 2015 Gail Zappa, nee Adelaide Gail Sloatman, age 70, departed this earth peacefully at her home on Wednesday, October 7, 2015, surrounded by her children. Married to Frank Zappa at age 22, Gail was a doe-eyed, barefooted trailblazer, giving equal value to her domestic and professional responsibilities as matriarch of the family and overseer of all Zappa enterprises. She devoted herself to partnering with her husband in the music business and raising their children, Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet and Diva. Gail enthusiastically executed her role as guardian of her husband’s creative life and, with his passing, strove to ensure his legacy as one of the leading American composers and musicians of the 20th century. In this and all business endeavors, Gail passionately advocated to establish clear definitions of intellectual property and copyright laws on behalf of not just her husband, but all artists. While she conducted intricate legal negotiations with corporations as grande dame of the Zappa Family Trust, she never failed to impart the sense of humor that was part and parcel of her indomitable and formidable personality. Gail, self-described as a pagan absurdist, was motivated by love in all aspects of her life, kept her authenticity intact, unbowed and, simply put, was one bad ass in the music business and political world. Gail will forever be identified as a key figure in the creative renaissance that is Laurel Canyon. But more than any singular accomplishment, she defined herself in her personal relationships, happiest when surrounded by loved ones and artists, often one and the same. The memories she leaves behind are indeed her own art form. Her searing intelligence, unforgettable smile, wild thicket of hair and trailing black velvets leave a blur in her wake. There is no further information to report. This is the only statement that will be released by the family. |
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Post by hotman637 on Oct 9, 2015 12:42:35 GMT -5
Gail Zappa shows once again that God is a woman! Frank showed that the Devil is a man!
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Post by B on Oct 25, 2015 16:27:01 GMT -5
Here is a statement from facebook regarding Dave McGowan, from his brother Craig: www.facebook.com/groups/714296128627740/?fref=nf"Craig McGowan October 23 at 7:10pm Dave will not be leaving the hospital. we do not know how many days he has left but he is on his final flight. There is nothing more that can be done except to keep him comfortable in his last hours. I do not know if he will be lucid enough to see or talk to me when I get there. He has asked that no one make any valiant efforts to save him when the time comes as he wished to pass peacefully while asleep. I am so angry " |
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Post by maclen on Oct 25, 2015 17:16:42 GMT -5
Here is a statement from facebook regarding Dave McGowan, from his brother Craig: www.facebook.com/groups/714296128627740/?fref=nf"Craig McGowan October 23 at 7:10pm Dave will not be leaving the hospital. we do not know how many days he has left but he is on his final flight. There is nothing more that can be done except to keep him comfortable in his last hours. I do not know if he will be lucid enough to see or talk to me when I get there. He has asked that no one make any valiant efforts to save him when the time comes as he wished to pass peacefully while asleep. I am so angry "Sorry to see him go. Although he maintained a blind spot when it came to the replacement of Paul, and never considered the possibility the LC rockers were honestly rebellious, his writing was fresh and often humorous. Finally, he pointed at the military's culpability in acts of domestic terrorism and I point at the military's culpability in acts of domestic terrorism, to say the least. We pray his exit is tranquil. |
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Post by B on Nov 27, 2015 6:23:40 GMT -5
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Post by beatlas231 on Nov 27, 2015 11:26:01 GMT -5
Well it may be the Devil, or it may be the Lord but you're gonna have to serve somebody |
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Post by hotman637 on Nov 27, 2015 13:13:48 GMT -5
Well it may be the Devil, or it may be the Lord but you're gonna have to serve somebody So what is the difference? The Lord is a woman and the Devil is a man. Choose wisely. |
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Post by hotman637 on Nov 28, 2015 13:37:22 GMT -5
The fascinating thing about Nazism is that a lot of it goes back to EUGENIC program that was NOT started in Germany but in CALIFORNIA! According to the article quoted below Hitler got his idea for creating a "master race" not from Germany but from a program started in California decades before Hitler came to power! The thing is there are still tons of Nazis and they are right here on the internet! Eric Dubay is a Nazi and hates the "Jews" and runs the IFERS (International Flat Earth Research Society). He has not mentioned an Eugenics program yet but would not put it past him! Anyhow it is interesting that a lot of the Nazi ideas started in California and then ended up in California at Laurel Canyon. www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Eugenics-and-the-Nazis-the-California-2549771.php |
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Post by B on Dec 6, 2015 14:59:05 GMT -5
Dave McGowan's obituary and link to the remembrance book. www.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?pid=176717987"A lifelong Angeleno, David was born in Torrance on March 25, 1960, and died at home in Eagle Rock on November 22, 2015. He graduated from Torrance High in 1978 and from UCLA in 1983. In addition to owning his own construction business, he was a courageous and brilliant investigative writer whose insightful work opened the eyes and minds of many. He is survived by daughters Alissa, Megan, and Shane McGowan, parents J. Robert and Shirley Griffith McGowan, and brothers Michael and Craig." Published in the Los Angeles Times from Dec. 1 to Dec. 6, 2015  |
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Post by maclen on Dec 7, 2015 13:00:17 GMT -5
Dave McGowan's obituary and link to the remembrance book. www.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?pid=176717987"A lifelong Angeleno, David was born in Torrance on March 25, 1960, and died at home in Eagle Rock on November 22, 2015. He graduated from Torrance High in 1978 and from UCLA in 1983. In addition to owning his own construction business, he was a courageous and brilliant investigative writer whose insightful work opened the eyes and minds of many. He is survived by daughters Alissa, Megan, and Shane McGowan, parents J. Robert and Shirley Griffith McGowan, and brothers Michael and Craig." Published in the Los Angeles Times from Dec. 1 to Dec. 6, 2015 let's see his work spur on more awakening to psy warfare. happy midpoint between thanksgiving and christmas/hannakuh, b, everyone |
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Post by kvo on Aug 8, 2022 9:11:20 GMT -5
and he babbled on about how "all of those people couldn't have been in on the secret. Yeah, that is always the pat answer, that a too great number of people had to be "in on it" so as to fool the populous. All the while ignoring the obvious, that the ones most necessary to fool are the ones in the midst of it. Any two bit conman doing time will tell you the easiest mark is one who thinks he's too smart to be fooled.. Wagging The Moondoggie was better reading than the Laurel Canyon stuff. Gotta bump this. My incense and peppermints, exactly. Were Canyonites knowingly fooling the populous, or being used by certain powers that be? "Indians scattered on dawn's highway, bleeding. Ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind". Who was actually killed in that car accident? Did something happen to the heads of these 60s rock stars, I've asked before on this site? Think about it......When it comes to the Canyonites, She (me), don't always say what she really means (Gordon Lightfoot).....The possibilities are a little scary. On edit, of course the original context is the moon landings, not the rockers. But it's all McGowan. Sometimes, methinks, the truth is hidden in the midst, on the grassy knoll, somewhere in between warring factions of conditioning. Rebel, Rocker, Lover, Idol, Vanished |
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Post by B on Aug 8, 2022 18:54:52 GMT -5
Billy Joel - We Didn't Start the Fire (Official Video) --------------------------------------------------- Paul McCartney enjoying a moment for himself
youtu.be/eFTLKWw542g ------ 
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