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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Oct 31, 2008 7:49:14 GMT -5
I've been meaning to watch this for ages. Good show, thisone! And the Laurel Canyon story hasn't been updated since 8/29. Grrrrr. |
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Post by thisone on Oct 31, 2008 9:18:36 GMT -5
Me too. I've only ever seen clips of it. Stumbled across it on YouTube last evening. "I'll keep that for later!" I wondered how they would "deal" with the trip scenes, having partaken in some mind blowing 36hour Californian Sunshine (and some lesser stuff) some years back.
Like yourself P(Denny), I popped over there to have a look also, to see if the next installment was ready. Maybe the author is lurking here - and would like to get his finger(s) out!! ;-)
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Post by sunsoflight on Nov 8, 2008 23:47:18 GMT -5
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Post by Doc on Nov 9, 2008 1:00:20 GMT -5
I don't understand. I've never ever seen anything like it before. What do you mean?  |
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Post by sunsoflight on Nov 9, 2008 1:55:54 GMT -5
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Nov 14, 2008 12:47:47 GMT -5
The new phonbook's here, the new phonebook's here! ;D Erm....I mean, here's Part XI:Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation Part XI November 13, 2008 “By that, I mean, ‘Get me a lead singer. He’s got sort of an androgynous blonde hair, very pretty. We need a guitar player, sort of hatchet-faced, wears a hat, plays very fast, very dramatic. He must be very dramatic. Get me a pound of bass player, pound of drummer … they’re making little cardboard cutouts. They hire a producer, they hire writers … And in the current stuff now, they don’t even bother getting people to play. Don’t bother with that guitar player, bass player, drummer – nonsense … The people in those bands can’t write, play, or sing.” David Crosby, describing the synthetic, manufactured nature of today’s rock bands “David was obnoxious, loud, demanding, thoughtless, full of himself – of the four of them [David Crosby, Steven Stills, Graham Nash and Neil Young], the least talented.” David Geffen www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr103.html
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Post by thisone on Nov 14, 2008 20:11:15 GMT -5
The new phonbook's here, the new phonebook's here! ;D Erm....I mean, here's Part XI:Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation Part XI November 13, 2008 “By that, I mean, ‘Get me a lead singer. He’s got sort of an androgynous blonde hair, very pretty. We need a guitar player, sort of hatchet-faced, wears a hat, plays very fast, very dramatic. He must be very dramatic. Get me a pound of bass player, pound of drummer … they’re making little cardboard cutouts. They hire a producer, they hire writers … And in the current stuff now, they don’t even bother getting people to play. Don’t bother with that guitar player, bass player, drummer – nonsense … The people in those bands can’t write, play, or sing.” David Crosby, describing the synthetic, manufactured nature of today’s rock bands “David was obnoxious, loud, demanding, thoughtless, full of himself – of the four of them [David Crosby, Steven Stills, Graham Nash and Neil Young], the least talented.” David Geffen www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr103.html Once again, I thank you P(D)enny! YEAH SAID HEY HEY SAID THAT HEY LOOK AT THE SKY TURN A HELL-FIRE RED SOMEBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNIN' DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN YEAH WELL I ASKED MY FRIEND WHERE IS THAT BLACK SMOKE COMIN' FROM? HE JUST COUGHED AND CHANGED THE SUBJECT AND SAID UH, WELL I THINK IT MIGHT SNOW SOME SO I LEFT HIM SIPPIN' HIS TEA AND I JUMPeD I MY CHARIOT AND RODE OFF TO SEE JUST WHY AND WHO COULD IT BE THIS TIMEYEAH YEA YEAH YEAH SISTERS AND BROHERS DADDIES MOTHERS STANDIN' AROUND CRYIN' WHeN I REACHED THE SCENE THE FLAMES WERE MAKING A GHOSTLY WHINE SO I STOOD ON MY HORSE'S BACK AND I SCREAMED WITHOUT A WHACK I SAY OH BABY WHY DID YOU BURN YOU BROTHER'S HOUSE DOWN? HEY HEY HEY GO GET ME SOMETHING HEY LOOK AT THE SKY TURN A HELL-FIRE RED, LORD SOMEBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNING DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN LOOK AT THE SKY RUN A HELL-FIRE RED, LORD SOMEBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNING DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN WELL SOMEONE STEPPED FROM THE CROWD HE WAS NINETEEN MILES HIGHHE SHOUTS WE'RE TIRED AND DISGUSTED SO WE PAINT RED THROUGH THE SKY I SAY THE TRUTH IS STRAIGHT AHEAD SO DON'T BURN YOU SELF INSTEAD TRY TO LEARN INSTEAD OF BURN HEAR WHAT I SAY YEAH YEAH SO I FINALLY RODE AWAY BYT I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT DAY CAUSE WHEN I REACHED THE VALLEY ? I LOOKED WAY DOWN 'CROSS THE WAY A GIANT BOAT FROM SPACE LANDED WITH EERIE GRACE AND CAME AND TAKE ALL THE DEAD AWAY HEY HEY HEY HEY WHAT'D I SAY LOOK AT THE SKY TURN A HELL-FIRE RED LORD SOMEDBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNING DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN LOOK AT THE SKY TURN A HELL-FIRE RED LORD SOMEDBODY'S HOUSE IS BURNING DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN LOOK AT THE SKY TURN, LOOK AT THE SKY TURN A HELL-FIRE RED Ooo Ooo Ooo Ooo Ooo Ooo Ooo Ooo Ooo COME ON BABY |
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Dec 1, 2008 11:11:56 GMT -5
Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation Part XIINovember 27, 2008 “I’d have to say that, personally speaking, Crosby was worse for the good feelings of [the local] rock’n’roll [scene] than Manson was.” ~Terry Melcher “I had been to Terry Melcher’s house on Cielo Drive many times.” ~David Crosby Full article: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr104.html |
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Post by B on Dec 1, 2008 20:03:55 GMT -5
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jan 27, 2009 11:39:38 GMT -5
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Mar 19, 2009 10:34:25 GMT -5
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Post by B on Mar 19, 2009 19:43:10 GMT -5
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jun 8, 2009 12:05:22 GMT -5
Here's the latest installment.  Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation Part XV June 6, 2009 The Byrds were the very first folk-rock band to take flight, and the one that achieved the greatest fame, but to many discerning ears, Laurel Canyon’s other folk-rock powerhouse, the Buffalo Springfield, was the more talented band. In the literature chronicling the 1960s music scene, few stories are repeated more frequently than the legend surrounding the formation of what would later be regarded as perhaps the first ‘supergroup.’ All such accounts unquestioningly retell the story as though it were the gospel truth, seemingly oblivious to the improbability of virtually every aspect of the legend. And curiously, virtually every version of the story contains some form of the word “serendipity,” as though everyone has been copying off the same kid’s homework. As the story goes, Stephen Stills and Richie Furay, formerly of the Au Go-Go Singers, had recently transplanted themselves to Los Angeles after the breakup of the manufactured folkie group. Stills had been the first to relocate, in August of 1965. Furay flew out to join him in February 1966, after spending a little time working at defense giant Pratt & Whitney, and the two set their sights on putting together a folk-rock band. More: www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr107.html |
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Post by thisone on Jun 8, 2009 16:45:27 GMT -5
Thanks for keeping us updated on this P(Denny)! Looking forward to the read!
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Oct 7, 2009 14:55:17 GMT -5
Well, this ain't Part XVII in the Laurel Canyon series, but it's worth your time in the same way... Wagging the Moondoggie, Part IOctober 1, 2009 by David McGowan “It is commonly believed that man will fly directly from the earth to the moon, but to do this, we would require a vehicle of such gigantic proportions that it would prove an economic impossibility. It would have to develop sufficient speed to penetrate the atmosphere and overcome the earth’s gravity and, having traveled all the way to the moon, it must still have enough fuel to land safely and make the return trip to earth. Furthermore, in order to give the expedition a margin of safety, we would not use one ship alone, but a minimum of three … each rocket ship would be taller than New York’s Empire State Building [almost ¼ mile high] and weigh about ten times the tonnage of the Queen Mary, or some 800,000 tons.” Wernher von Braun, the father of the Apollo space program, writing in Conquest of the Moon I can see all of you scratching your heads out there and I know exactly what it is that you are thinking: “Why the hell are we taking this detour to the Moon? What happened to Laurel Canyon? Have you completely lost your mind?” *Sigh* It all began a few months ago, when I became very busy at my day job as well as with family drama and with what turned out to be a very time-consuming side project, all of which made it increasingly difficult for me to carve out chunks of time to work on the remaining chapters in the series. Over the next two months or so, I pretty much lost all momentum and soon found it hard to motivate myself to write even when I could find the time. That happens sometimes. Though it sounds rather cliché, ‘writer’s block’ is a very real phenomenon. There are many times when I can sit down at the keyboard and the words flow out of my head faster than I can get them down on the page. But there are also times when producing just one halfway decent sentence seems a near impossible task. This was one of those times. I found a new source of inspiration, however, when my wife e-mailed me the recent story about the fake Dutch Moon rock, which I and many others found quite amusing, and which also reminded me that I had a lot of other bits and pieces of information concerning the Apollo project that I had collected over the nine years that have passed since I first wrote about the alleged Moon landings. After taking that first look, back in 2000, I was pretty well convinced that the landings were, in fact, faked, but it was perfectly obvious that the rather short, mostly tongue-in-cheek post that I put up back in July of 2000 was not going to convince anyone else of that. More: davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.html |
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Post by Valis on Oct 7, 2009 22:22:00 GMT -5
good stuff,
but the mention of Don Knotts gives me a bad case of deja vu
What a strange fucking theatre we live in
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Oct 8, 2009 10:56:44 GMT -5
 I'm bumping this "Wagging the Moondoggie" piece because it is particularly awesome.davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.htmlExcerpt: One thing that I love about the ‘debunking’ websites, by the way, is how frequently they contradict themselves while working their way through their ‘debunking’ checklists. The ever-pompous Phil Plait, proprietor of the appropriately named BadAstronomy.com website, is a prime example. Fairly early on in his ‘debunking’ rant, he writes as follows: “I’ll say this here now, and return to it many times: the Moon is not the Earth. Conditions there are weird, and our common sense is likely to fail us.” Plait does indeed return to it often, whenever it advances his argument to do so, but he just as frequently tosses his own cardinal rule aside when that is what serves his purposes – like, for example, just four paragraphs later, when he advises readers to “go outside here on Earth on the darkest night imaginable and take a picture with the exact same camera settings the astronauts used, you won’t see any stars! It’s that simple.” Ever the coy one, Phil doesn’t tell us what those “camera settings” are, but he clearly implies that the same settings were used in every photo, which clearly is not the case. Phil also conveniently forgets that the view from the Moon is not filtered through an atmosphere, so the stars have many times the luminosity as here on Earth. Phil’s little experiment, therefore, is entirely invalid, since he forgot to take into account that conditions on the Moon “are weird.” And as with all the ‘debunkers,’ he also forgot to explain why it is that no one thought to expose a photo or two to specifically capture the brilliant display of stars. Legend holds that a dozen astronauts walked upon the surface of the Moon for varying amounts of time. The Apollo 17 astronauts alone were purportedly there for three days. For the duration of their visits, each of the twelve would have been treated to what was by far the most dazzling display of stars ever seen by the human eye. What they would have seen was many times more stars burning many times brighter than can be seen anywhere here on planet Earth. Collectively, the dirty dozen took thousands of photos throughout their alleged journeys. And yet, amazingly enough, not one of them thought it might be a good idea to snap even a single photograph of such a wondrous sight. Of course, endless photos of the lunar modules and the monotonous lunar surface are exciting too, but just one or two photos of that dazzling lunar sky might have been nice as well. It’s as if someone went to Niagara Falls and the only photos they brought back were of the car they drove sitting in a nondescript parking lot. |
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Post by thisone on Oct 8, 2009 14:21:09 GMT -5
I roared with laughter at the "Tom Hanks and a crew of less well known actors", Apollo 11 jibe.
ps/ We want more "Laurel Canyon" though!
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Post by jestertor on Oct 9, 2009 4:03:31 GMT -5
Dave's site is presently unavailable in the UK. 'This account has surpassed its bandwidth allocation at the present time' - is the given reason. Since 'there are no coincidences' should we be worried?
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Post by thisone on Oct 9, 2009 9:43:23 GMT -5
Dave's site is presently unavailable in the UK. 'This account has surpassed its bandwidth allocation at the present time' - is the given reason. Since 'there are no coincidences' should we be worried? Yes, I'm getting that here now also. Nothing to worry about, quite common. Like it says - bandwidth exceeded. He will have to upgrade his account that's all! |
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Oct 10, 2009 21:22:55 GMT -5
Dave's site is presently unavailable in the UK. 'This account has surpassed its bandwidth allocation at the present time' - is the given reason. Since 'there are no coincidences' should we be worried? Yes, I'm getting that here now also. Nothing to worry about, quite common. Like it says - bandwidth exceeded. He will have to upgrade his account that's all! The site was down for two days, but it's back up now. |
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Oct 15, 2009 13:50:25 GMT -5
Addendum to Wagging the Moondoggie:"With the United States having long led the world in both lunar exploration and blowing shit up, this mission couldn’t have really been any easier, so it came as no surprise that everyone seemed to be brimming with confidence. President BlackBush, Nobel Peace Prize in hand, was reportedly heard to say: “How do you like me now, motherfuckers?! I’m going to bomb the motherfucking Moon! You all thought that punk-ass bitch that preceded me was arrogant? Watch how I roll!”" www.davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo6.html
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Post by horseloverphat on Oct 16, 2009 13:39:19 GMT -5
Dave Mcgowan was one of the researchers that I first tried to clue people into...when I first posted here.
My first post was his....'7 degrees of Charlie Manson' some 2-3 years ago (got zero response, I think) and I mentioned obtaining his ground breaking Programmed To Kill book.
Good to see that folk now realise what a great researcher he is.
The LC series is superb...and I can recommmend his radio show with Meria too.
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Post by JoJo on Oct 16, 2009 14:21:02 GMT -5
Wait a sec there HLPH, your post was not all for naught, Programmed To Kill is in my collection thanks to you.
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Post by horseloverphat on Oct 16, 2009 14:33:46 GMT -5
yey....yee haw....so I did get through. Funny that JoJo...I was thinking of you only a few minutes ago and refreshed this page and hey presto you appear...how's that for synchronicity! here is the post...and it does look like the first one I made here...lol invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ra&thread=93&page=55(its near the bottom & still a good read) Oh and btw...I miss this place too. Maybe I should come back as these things are tending to converge as we travel along! |
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