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Post by B on Jan 24, 2009 10:05:42 GMT -5
fauLLIBle wrote: ".... Aliester Crowley, who in his book magick admitted to abusing and murdering hundreds of children...."That's Aleister to you, Charlie. Since Crowley called sperm cells "children", such an admission may have been meaningless. I am not saying he was a nice guy; just that he was given to making such statements for the sake of shocking his contemporaries. fun for Krowley fanz: www.lashtal.com/nuke/
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Post by FAUllibLE on Jan 24, 2009 17:54:38 GMT -5
Whatever, they didn't kick Aliester out of Italy for flushing his kids down the drain. I think the sugarcoaters world never has any hard facts, only trivial half truths.
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Post by puzzled on Jan 24, 2009 18:18:33 GMT -5
I have already stated several times that I agree there is evidence that people have been killed and children have been tortured and murdered by satanists. I also said there is historical evidence that the same thing has happened at the hands of people claiming every other faith as well. What is the score of Catholic/Christian murders and tortures vs. Satanists murders and tortures? Over the entire history of humanity? Does the exact ratio really matter? 1:10? 1:1,000? 1:10,000? If there is a God, does he dole out punishment based on percentages? I thought sin was sin was sin? We seem to have come to the same conclusions about this particular thread, so I'm still confused about your presentation. I can only assume I offended you somehow by making this comparison, that Buddhists and Hindus and Christians and Aztecs and Pagans and Druids and whoever - at some point in history have done horrible things in the name of their God. Has every single individual who claimed to be spiritually-minded committed atrocities? No! Certainly not, but if your issue about tacit support is consistent, then you can't deny that belonging to any organization is silent approval to their methods, in addition to financial and political support. So we agree again
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Post by FAUllibLE on Jan 24, 2009 19:54:49 GMT -5
I have already stated several times that I agree there is evidence that people have been killed and children have been tortured and murdered by satanists. I also said there is historical evidence that the same thing has happened at the hands of people claiming every other faith as well. What is the score of Catholic/Christian murders and tortures vs. Satanists murders and tortures? Over the entire history of humanity? Does the exact ratio really matter? 1:10? 1:1,000? 1:10,000? If there is a God, does he dole out punishment based on percentages? I thought sin was sin was sin? We seem to have come to the same conclusions about this particular thread, so I'm still confused about your presentation. I can only assume I offended you somehow by making this comparison, that Buddhists and Hindus and Christians and Aztecs and Pagans and Druids and whoever - at some point in history have done horrible things in the name of their God. Has every single individual who claimed to be spiritually-minded committed atrocities? No! Certainly not, but if your issue about tacit support is consistent, then you can't deny that belonging to any organization is silent approval to their methods, in addition to financial and political support. So we agree again Here we go again, I guess you just couldn't help yourself. You have a very difficult time staying on the subject, I can see. I reject any arguement you put forth pertaining to comparing one religion to another. Its sad when thats the only one track mind set people use as a free pass for people who promote such practices. I already stated I believe 99% of all organizations are corrupt, that even goes for charities. Again, at this point I'm not even sure I'm holding a conversation with you. Maybe we're playing free association and I wasn't told, I dunno.
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Post by puzzled on Jan 24, 2009 22:58:57 GMT -5
I have already stated several times that I agree there is evidence that people have been killed and children have been tortured and murdered by satanists. I also said there is historical evidence that the same thing has happened at the hands of people claiming every other faith as well. What is the score of Catholic/Christian murders and tortures vs. Satanists murders and tortures? Over the entire history of humanity? Does the exact ratio really matter? 1:10? 1:1,000? 1:10,000? If there is a God, does he dole out punishment based on percentages? I thought sin was sin was sin? We seem to have come to the same conclusions about this particular thread, so I'm still confused about your presentation. I can only assume I offended you somehow by making this comparison, that Buddhists and Hindus and Christians and Aztecs and Pagans and Druids and whoever - at some point in history have done horrible things in the name of their God. Has every single individual who claimed to be spiritually-minded committed atrocities? No! Certainly not, but if your issue about tacit support is consistent, then you can't deny that belonging to any organization is silent approval to their methods, in addition to financial and political support. So we agree again Here we go again, I guess you just couldn't help yourself. You have a very difficult time staying on the subject, I can see. I reject any arguement you put forth pertaining to comparing one religion to another. Its sad when thats the only one track mind set people use as a free pass for people who promote such practices. I already stated I believe 99% of all organizations are corrupt, that even goes for charities. Again, at this point I'm not even sure I'm holding a conversation with you. Maybe we're playing free association and I wasn't told, I dunno. Fine, I'm done since apparently all you want to do is insult me personally.
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Post by FAUllibLE on Jan 25, 2009 0:50:34 GMT -5
Thats fine, but all I really wanted to do was stay on topic, sorry you feel insulted. Aww hell, lets forget the past have some fun and PARTY!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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Post by skyward on Jan 25, 2009 10:14:31 GMT -5
The focus of this recent discussion seems to shift. Let me see if I understand the main point that puzzled was trying to make.
Something along the lines of this-
Yes, the Beatles were the 'good guys' of the 60s promoting peace and love. That is what many people would generally perceive; their facade. But, as we have seen in other areas of culture, e.g. religion, just because someone has the facade of peace and love doesn't mean they can't be involved in something more devious and/or sinister. In broad and simple terms, they may have been just conmen posing themselves as peace and love hippies.
One question that puzzled posed was 'Maybe there is something more to this peace sign', so that would go along with the above paragraph.
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Post by trutha on Jan 25, 2009 21:44:48 GMT -5
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Post by B on Jan 25, 2009 23:29:54 GMT -5
Whatever.... I have expressed the opinion before here that "the Beatles" giving the 666 hand signs is an indication that they are a phoney, and have compared it to the use of hand signs given by the crew of the USS Pueblo in a photo that was taken of them by their captors, saying everything was cool, when clearly the hand signs were saying something else. Look at them ("the beatles"), and tell yourself seriously that they (even one) are the real deal. Go ahead. Make my day. Part of the meaning (one of the meanings, I should say) of 666 is 'a copy of a copy of the original'. Once you understand that, it's not odd that the people photographed would use that sign to indicate who they weren't. But people will always say that picture means that The Beatles were committed satanists/ illuminati I suppose. And yes, I know about Derek Taylor's statement. It's true that the symbols are out there, but whether it makes everyone who uses them devotees of the dark side is debatable, to put it mildly.
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Post by trutha on Jan 26, 2009 22:32:17 GMT -5
Look at them ("the beatles"), and tell yourself seriously that they (even one) are the real deal. I actually do think all were permanently replaced, except perhaps John.
But people will always say that picture means that The Beatles were committed satanists/ illuminati I don't think they were satanists. I think they were being controlled to a certain extent by the Illuminati, tho.
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