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Post by B on Aug 8, 2022 15:47:34 GMT -5
kvo wrote: Not by me! And speaking of DEVO, and being hopelessly DEVOted 2 u, There is sad news in mudville today: Olivia Newton-John Dead at 73youtu.be/SBZ73v7cVcUThat wasn't a classy segway, I'll admit. It was terrible, in fact. And now we'll be hearing about breast cancer for the next 6 months. 'Tis a pity, nonetheless.
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Post by kvo on Aug 8, 2022 15:57:59 GMT -5
kvo wrote: Not by me! And speaking of DEVO, and being hopelessly DEVOted 2 u, There is sad news in mudville today: Olivia Newton-John Dead at 73youtu.be/SBZ73v7cVcUThat wasn't a classy segway, I'll admit. It was terrible, in fact. And now we'll be hearing about breast cancer for the next 6 months. 'Tis a pity, nonetheless. Whip it? I'll have you know that corporal punishment is outlawed in the state of Georgia. And you cannot export the laws of your state to mine, thank you very much. 😁 No more Mandella effect with Olivia around here. It's now documented. 😢
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Post by ekauqodielak on Aug 8, 2022 16:30:06 GMT -5
Well she had cause. Marilyn Monroe-Happy Birthday Mr. Presidentyoutu.be/Y74oWon5VTo ------ DedicationToMonroe Feb 16, 2013 Poor Marilyn. She was my study, before the Doors, which came before the Beatles, which came after The Wars of the Roses and Tudor History. Got it? 😎 People kept asking me, "Was she murdered"? Well, umm, duh. At 36. And the 27 club adds up to the same, sigh....Some gematria there, if you're into that kind of thing. You know, nine, upside down, you get 6.6.6., all over, everywhere. Have you read Blonde by Joyce Carol Oates? I thought it was great, like walking into someone else's dream.
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Post by kvo on Aug 8, 2022 17:45:17 GMT -5
Poor Marilyn. She was my study, before the Doors, which came before the Beatles, which came after The Wars of the Roses and Tudor History. Got it? 😎 People kept asking me, "Was she murdered"? Well, umm, duh. At 36. And the 27 club adds up to the same, sigh....Some gematria there, if you're into that kind of thing. You know, nine, upside down, you get 6.6.6., all over, everywhere. Have you read Blonde by Joyce Carol Oates? I thought it was great, like walking into someone else's dream. "Like walking into someone else's dream". A poetic turn of phrase. 😃 Lately, no one would want to walk into my recurring dream. About a whole gigantic wing in my house I suddenly found, and never knew existed. Furnished lavishly, but out dated. Where was I? First, not a blond (as we all know), but she identified as one. I haven't read that one, but my reading list is a mile long at this point. First, The Time Travelers Wife. I'll check out Amazon for the one you recommend. Thanks. As for Norman Mailer, skip it. Even he conceded that his earliest edition was laden with supposition. The story of no one claiming the body and someone snapping a photo of the corpse in exchange for a carton of beer. Poor Marilyn. Used and abused, even after death. And Kaleidoquake was already hard enough to spell!
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Post by ekauqodielak on Aug 8, 2022 20:13:23 GMT -5
Have you read Blonde by Joyce Carol Oates? I thought it was great, like walking into someone else's dream. Lately, no one would want to walk into my recurring dream. About a whole gigantic wing in my house I suddenly found, and never knew existed. Furnished lavishly, but out dated. On that note, add House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski to your list. I think any PID/PWRer would appreciate it. But it's, superficially, anyway, about a house that's larger on the inside than the outside and keeps growing. Physically, the typeset layout mimics the storyline progression and many sections are written in code with the key (and additional secrets) being the companion novella The Whalestoe Letters.
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Post by kvo on Aug 9, 2022 9:10:14 GMT -5
I apologize for being a little cranky. Must be the heat! This place is a bit like an old-time one-room school house, with everyone from the 1st graders to the high school seniors present. We have posts from the newbies, for whom Vivian Stanshall being played by Faul is news, while for some of us who are a bit long in the tooth (walrus reference ) it is old news, and not even in dispute. Yes! "Everybody knows that". He even says so in the Billy Shears memoirs book (if you believe it's him [Faul] ) and he explains that Vivian was also played by other people at times, and that he hired someone to take over the role. Sooo... I bite my tongue when people come here and they're all ready to find the body, or discover "what really happened", but the ones who are most annoying to me are the ones who are just 'so much smarter' than Mike Williams, or Thomas Uharriet, or anyone who's ever posted here before, but they can't write a sentence, can't tell Faul from Paul, or tell us that "eveyone has been replaced", or that Jackie killed JFK in front of thousands of people. Sometimes they're actually on to stuff, so it's not as if they can be dismissed out of hand. For instance I could see "She's A Woman" being a subtle way of saying "God is a woman" to a society accostomed to hearing about the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. But when the real clues come along, they don't see them. Case in point: (real clues)Ahh you've gone to the finest schools, alright Miss LonelyIn the story, Miss Lonelyhearts is the pseudonym for an unnamed male newspaper columnist writing an advice column for the lovelorn and lonesome, a duty that the other newspaper staff consider to be a joke. As Miss Lonelyhearts reads letters from desperate New Yorkers, he feels terribly burdened and falls into a cycle of deep depression, accompanied by heavy drinking and occasional bar fights. He is also the victim of the pranks and cynical advice of Shrike, his feature editor at the newspaper.But you know you only used to get juiced in it Nobody's ever taught you how to live out on the street And now you're gonna have to get used to it You say you never compromise With the mystery tramp, but now you realize He's not selling any alibis As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes And say do you want to make a deal? (double entendre: Drug deal or "sell your identity" deal)How does it feel, how does it feel? To be on your own, with no direction home; A complete unknown, like a rolling stone (yeah, those guys ... someone in the same boat in that group ? )Ah you never turned around to see the frowns On the jugglers and the clowns when they all did tricks for you Strange Days - 1967You never understood that it ain't no good You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you You used to ride on a chrome horse with your diplomatWho carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat Ain't it hard when you discovered that He really wasn't where it's at After he took from you everything he could steal (Dylan is all about how 'Tweedle Dee' stole Tweedle Dum's identity )How does it feel, how does it feel? Is it really any surprise that Denny Laine would be in Wings with his old partner from The Diplomats? A Siamese cat? Lemme check the memory banks. Searching....The only thing I can come up with right now is the Siamese cat of a girl, in Under my Thumb. Probably not relevant but does loop Jagger into all this. On edit: The song does appear on the Aftermath album. "The difference in the clothes she wears". Oh, holey moley. "A squirming dog who's just had her day". "A girl who has just changed her ways". "The change has come". What change is he talking 'bout anyway? A dog (a male?). Now a Siamese cat (a female?). Hmmm....May be reading too much into this, but with the Aftermath album released in 1966, these lyrics are rather curious. Didn't a Beatle say something about lots of changes in 1966? Lots of red eyes. Then, in 1967, "Welcome the Rolling Stones". In Under my Thumb, Jagger says it's now down to him. The Beatles split up. The Stones go on and on and on.....In the recent video you put up, it's no longer McCartney, but an aging Jagger who shakes his head Beatle style in "I Saw her Standing There". The Kinks, with the gender bending "Lola" as early as 1970. As Marilyn said in The Seven Year Itch, "It's something to think about". Still believe in multiple Pauls. But multiple Pauls means multiple fates. And that is what I believe we are seeing in all this.
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Post by B on Aug 9, 2022 11:20:17 GMT -5
Good speculation, kvo! Those lyrics had slipped by me! Some of the other stuff in the Dylan song still has me baffled. a Siamese cat?Emerson, Lake & Palmer ~ Lucky Man (1970) www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcdZTmzTYFU --------------------- yeah... Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat is kind of a hard one to pin down. https://www.reddit.com/r/bobdylan/comments/59ne8s/who_carried_on_his_shoulder_a_siamese_cat/ -------------------------- expectingrain.com/dok/who/n/napoleoninrags.html"> >"Napoleon in rags" > > Can't help you with the rest, but I read somewhere years ago that 'Napoleon in rags' refered (specifically) to Andy Warhol and (more generally) the assorted Factory hangers-on. It was to do with the 60s art-house trappings of style triumphing over content and Warhol and his friends attempting to conscoiusly generate a subculture incorporating art (his own work), films (his own and his 'in-house' actors like edie sedgewick etc.) and music (exploding plastic inevitable/velvet underground). It's probably been stated before, but I'll just include it as a suggestion. Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 05:41:00 0500 From: Robert Shuman (rshuman@usa1.com) To: Karl.Erik.Andersen@nbr.no Subject: Napoleon in Rags RE: Napoleon in Rags In 1965, thirty years ago, when I was a student at Brandeis, I went to the village with a friend who knew people there. We met a black guy (about 30-40 years old?, hard to know because I wasn't thinking of it at that time) in some apartment who talked 'rag' and claimed he was "napoleon in rags" and talked me out of a great 6 foot orange scarf I was wearing. This is who I always thought the lyric referred to. Bob Shuman (shumans @aol.com) "interesting
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Post by kvo on Aug 9, 2022 11:48:25 GMT -5
Good speculation, kvo! Those lyrics had slipped by me! Some of the other stuff in the Dylan song still have me baffled. a Siamese cat?Emerson, Lake & Palmer ~ Lucky Man (1970)www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcdZTmzTYFUyeah... Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat is kind of a hard one to pin down. https://www.reddit.com/r/bobdylan/comments/59ne8s/who_carried_on_his_shoulder_a_siamese_cat/ -------------------------- expectingrain.com/dok/who/n/napoleoninrags.html"> >"Napoleon in rags" > > Can't help you with the rest, but I read somewhere years ago that 'Napoleon in rags' refered (specifically) to Andy Warhol and (more generally) the assorted Factory hangers-on. It was to do with the 60s art-house trappings of style triumphing over content and Warhol and his friends attempting to conscoiusly generate a subculture incorporating art (his own work), films (his own and his 'in-house' actors like edie sedgewick etc.) and music (exploding plastic inevitable/velvet underground). It's probably been stated before, but I'll just include it as a suggestion. Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 05:41:00 0500 From: Robert Shuman (rshuman@usa1.com) To: Karl.Erik.Andersen@nbr.no Subject: Napoleon in Rags RE: Napoleon in Rags In 1965, thirty years ago, when I was a student at Brandeis, I went to the village with a friend who knew people there. We met a black guy (about 30-40 years old?, hard to know because I wasn't thinking of it at that time) in some apartment who talked 'rag' and claimed he was "napoleon in rags" and talked me out of a great 6 foot orange scarf I was wearing. This is who I always thought the lyric referred to. Bob Shuman (shumans @aol.com) "interestingLemme further consider The Velvet Underground, of which I do have some familiarity. Through reading of Morrison, of course. Nico, having changed her hair color to red (which she believed Jim preferred). But frankly I am beginning to believe that was a Morrisonian affectation, of sorts. Red heads defining both JDM and JPM, in a way. Red heads with bangs. A coincidence perhaps but consider that red hair is not all that common in nature. Very curious. Nico said she dyed her hair back to its natural shade after Jim's death. The Music was Over, turn out the lights. There is a 1966 photo of Paul examining the Aftermath album. That is also something to ponder. I'll consider the Velvet Underground and the Plastic world of Warhol more carefully. But, poor poor Edie. Makes you wonder how a girl like her got mixed up with Warhol's "factory".
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Post by B on Aug 9, 2022 12:25:14 GMT -5
definitely linked "Rose & Valerie, shouting from the gallery, say he must go free." most of the lyrics from "Ballad of a Thin Man" and "I get by with a little help from my friends" relate to the factory. Electrical banana is gonna be a sudden craze As for Edie: "On her twenty-first birthday in April 1964, Sedgwick received an $80,000 trust fund from her maternal grandmother. Soon after, she relocated to New York City to pursue a career in modeling. In March 1965, she met artist and avant-garde filmmaker Andy Warhol at a party at Lester Persky's apartment, and began frequently visiting The Factory, Warhol's art studio in Midtown Manhattan. During one of her subsequent visits, Warhol was filming Vinyl (1965), his interpretation of Anthony Burgess' novel A Clockwork Orange. Despite Vinyl's all-male cast, Warhol put Sedgwick in the movie. Around this time, she also made a small cameo appearance in another Warhol film, Horse (1965). Sedgwick's appearances in both films were brief but generated enough interest that Warhol decided to cast her in the starring role of his next films. ""Following her estrangement from Warhol's inner circle, Sedgwick began living at the Chelsea Hotel, where she became close to Bob Dylan. Dylan and his friends eventually convinced Sedgwick to sign up with Albert Grossman, Dylan's manager. According to Paul Morrissey, Sedgwick had developed a crush on Dylan that she thought he reciprocated. She was also under the impression that she and Dylan would star in a mainstream film together. Unbeknownst to Sedgwick, Dylan had secretly married his girlfriend Sara Lownds in November 1965. Morrissey claimed that Sedgwick was informed of the marriage by Warhol (who reportedly heard about it through his lawyer) in February 1966. Friends of Sedgwick's later said that she saw the supposed offer of doing a film with Dylan as a ticket to a mainstream film career. Paul Morrissey claimed that Dylan likely never had plans to star in a film with Sedgwick, and Dylan "hadn't been very truthful." "The In popular culture section of her Wikipedia page is an incredible read unto itself.
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Post by kvo on Aug 9, 2022 16:15:34 GMT -5
Lately, no one would want to walk into my recurring dream. About a whole gigantic wing in my house I suddenly found, and never knew existed. Furnished lavishly, but out dated. On that note, add House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski to your list. I think any PID/PWRer would appreciate it. But it's, superficially, anyway, about a house that's larger on the inside than the outside and keeps growing. Physically, the typeset layout mimics the storyline progression and many sections are written in code with the key (and additional secrets) being the companion novella The Whalestoe Letters. Perhaps I spent too long in my study of English history. I seem to have missed out on some excellent reading. But the stories of Edward IV, Richard III, the Princes in the Tower, Margaret Beaufort and her son, Henry VII, then finally Henry VIII and Elizabeth I, captivated me for a long time. And I've found that these stories are not without value in examining the Beatle puzzle at hand. They give some insight on how bloodlines are valued, and how children of nobility can end up in veritable poverty, only to sometimes be located and used for nefarious purposes by those family members in power. There is one instance of this in particular, Henry VIII's fifth wife. Her story is particularly sad. Barely more than a child, used and abused by her own bloodlines, thrown before an aging and increasingly deranged Henry like a toy and, well the ensuing events were godawful....And thank you for pointing out House of Leaves. Frankly, I think my dream is telling me I've got cobwebs in the windmills of my mind ....Old joke. Long story.
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Post by kvo on Aug 10, 2022 16:13:09 GMT -5
Good speculation, kvo! Those lyrics had slipped by me! Some of the other stuff in the Dylan song still has me baffled. a Siamese cat?Emerson, Lake & Palmer ~ Lucky Man (1970) www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcdZTmzTYFU --------------------- yeah... Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat is kind of a hard one to pin down. https://www.reddit.com/r/bobdylan/comments/59ne8s/who_carried_on_his_shoulder_a_siamese_cat/ -------------------------- expectingrain.com/dok/who/n/napoleoninrags.html"> >"Napoleon in rags" > > Can't help you with the rest, but I read somewhere years ago that 'Napoleon in rags' refered (specifically) to Andy Warhol and (more generally) the assorted Factory hangers-on. It was to do with the 60s art-house trappings of style triumphing over content and Warhol and his friends attempting to conscoiusly generate a subculture incorporating art (his own work), films (his own and his 'in-house' actors like edie sedgewick etc.) and music (exploding plastic inevitable/velvet underground). It's probably been stated before, but I'll just include it as a suggestion. Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 05:41:00 0500 From: Robert Shuman (rshuman@usa1.com) To: Karl.Erik.Andersen@nbr.no Subject: Napoleon in Rags RE: Napoleon in Rags In 1965, thirty years ago, when I was a student at Brandeis, I went to the village with a friend who knew people there. We met a black guy (about 30-40 years old?, hard to know because I wasn't thinking of it at that time) in some apartment who talked 'rag' and claimed he was "napoleon in rags" and talked me out of a great 6 foot orange scarf I was wearing. This is who I always thought the lyric referred to. Bob Shuman (shumans @aol.com) "interestingAnd members of royal families in Thailand believed their Siamese cats would inherit their souls when they died. Rubber Soul, anyone? Gotta be a reason Jagger mentions a Siamese cat of a girl. Rubber Soul released in December 1965, just as Aftermath, on which Jagger mentions a Siamese cat, is just being recorded. She (he?) dresses differently by Aftermath, the change has now come, she's under Jagger's thumb.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Aug 10, 2022 18:41:00 GMT -5
Good speculation, kvo! Those lyrics had slipped by me! Some of the other stuff in the Dylan song still has me baffled. a Siamese cat?Emerson, Lake & Palmer ~ Lucky Man (1970) www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcdZTmzTYFU --------------------- yeah... Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat is kind of a hard one to pin down. https://www.reddit.com/r/bobdylan/comments/59ne8s/who_carried_on_his_shoulder_a_siamese_cat/ -------------------------- expectingrain.com/dok/who/n/napoleoninrags.html"> >"Napoleon in rags" > > Can't help you with the rest, but I read somewhere years ago that 'Napoleon in rags' refered (specifically) to Andy Warhol and (more generally) the assorted Factory hangers-on. It was to do with the 60s art-house trappings of style triumphing over content and Warhol and his friends attempting to conscoiusly generate a subculture incorporating art (his own work), films (his own and his 'in-house' actors like edie sedgewick etc.) and music (exploding plastic inevitable/velvet underground). It's probably been stated before, but I'll just include it as a suggestion. Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 05:41:00 0500 From: Robert Shuman (rshuman@usa1.com) To: Karl.Erik.Andersen@nbr.no Subject: Napoleon in Rags RE: Napoleon in Rags In 1965, thirty years ago, when I was a student at Brandeis, I went to the village with a friend who knew people there. We met a black guy (about 30-40 years old?, hard to know because I wasn't thinking of it at that time) in some apartment who talked 'rag' and claimed he was "napoleon in rags" and talked me out of a great 6 foot orange scarf I was wearing. This is who I always thought the lyric referred to. Bob Shuman (shumans @aol.com) "interestingAnd members of royal families in Thailand believed their Siamese cats would inherit their souls when they died. Rubber Soul, anyone? Gotta be a reason Jagger mentions a Siamese cat of a girl. Rubber Soul released in December 1965, just as Aftermath, on which Jagger mentions a Siamese cat, is just being recorded. She (he?) dresses differently by Aftermath, the change has now come, she's under Jagger's thumb. Siamese might be a twin reference, doubles.
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Post by kvo on Aug 10, 2022 21:00:25 GMT -5
And members of royal families in Thailand believed their Siamese cats would inherit their souls when they died. Rubber Soul, anyone? Gotta be a reason Jagger mentions a Siamese cat of a girl. Rubber Soul released in December 1965, just as Aftermath, on which Jagger mentions a Siamese cat, is just being recorded. She (he?) dresses differently by Aftermath, the change has now come, she's under Jagger's thumb. Siamese might be a twin reference, doubles. Good one. Siamese twins mentioned in at least one 80s dance song I can think of. Now you got me thinkin' both male and female. Dresses now like a female, but still fully male underneath it all. But early on, the legend has it that Siamese cats, the first ones with curly tails (considered undesirable now) had the function of guarding certain treasures. Their history, and their coats are a fascinating story. "Paul McCartney" born under the sign of Gemini, the twin. Coincidence?
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Post by ekauqodielak on Aug 10, 2022 21:14:41 GMT -5
Siamese might be a twin reference, doubles. Good one. Siamese twins mentioned in at least one 80s dance song I can think of. Now you got me thinkin' both male and female. Dresses now like a female, but still fully male underneath it all. But early on, the legend has it that Siamese cats, the first ones with curly tails (considered undesirable now) had the function of guarding certain treasures. Their history, and their coats are a fascinating story. "Paul McCartney" born under the sign of Gemini, the twin. Coincidence?
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Post by kvo on Aug 11, 2022 6:16:17 GMT -5
Good one. Siamese twins mentioned in at least one 80s dance song I can think of. Now you got me thinkin' both male and female. Dresses now like a female, but still fully male underneath it all. But early on, the legend has it that Siamese cats, the first ones with curly tails (considered undesirable now) had the function of guarding certain treasures. Their history, and their coats are a fascinating story. "Paul McCartney" born under the sign of Gemini, the twin. Coincidence? Holey moley, how did you find THIS! Right around the time frame of Rubber Soul and Aftermath. So conversely, a female who could have dressed as a male for a time. "Take it Easy Summer Recipes". In Under my Thumb, Jagger says "Take it Easy Babe". Repeatedly. "The difference in the clothes she wears". That line always stood out to me. First time I ever heard the song, I thought, "What in heck does he mean by that?".
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Post by B on Aug 11, 2022 12:33:47 GMT -5
Of course, I could be full of sh*rt. I mean, regarding all that stuff I wrote about "Like a Rolling Stone". The link below is an analysis of the song by someone who knows nothing about Faul, or "the Diplomats", or any of that. It's worth a read, if only because it probably is closer to what was going through Dylan's mind when he wrote it than all the stuff I wrote about. Just an angry rant by Mr. Zimmerman about Edie Sedgwick, presumably, who - for some reason - he calls Edie Palmer. Which brings up an interesting consideration: Can a person create a poem or song with cosmic implications far beyond what he or she is conscious of at the time? That was my constant disappointment in reading the "Memoirs of Billy Shears". Discovering the origins of song lyrics that I had always thought of as mind-blowingly cosmic, only to find that they were written by someone who had little or no awareness of how awesome their work truly was. So have at it. Warhol was the "diplomat" who let Edie know that Dylan was already married, and he had a Siamese cat, so there ya have it. Bob Dylan – Like A Rolling Stone (Lyrics Review and Song Meaning)justrandomthings.com/2016/06/04/bob-dylan-like-rolling-stone-lyrics-review-song-meaning/Mrs. Paul M. -er (just kidding)
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Post by kvo on Aug 11, 2022 13:56:09 GMT -5
Of course, I could be full of sh*rt. I mean, regarding all that stuff I wrote about "Like a Rolling Stone". The link below is an analysis of the song by someone who knows nothing about Faul, or "the Diplomats", or any of that. It's worth a read, if only because it probably is closer to what was going through Dylan's mind when he wrote it than all the stuff I wrote about. Just an angry rant by Mr. Zimmerman about Edie Sedgwick, presumably, who - for some reason - he calls Edie Palmer. Which brings up an interesting consideration: Can a person create a poem or song with cosmic implications far beyond what he or she is conscious of at the time? That was my constant disappointment in reading the "Memoirs of Billy Shears". Discovering the origins of song lyrics that I had always thought of as mind-blowingly cosmic, only to find that they were written by someone who had little or no awareness of how awesome their work truly was. So have at it. Warhol was the "diplomat" who let Edie know that Dylan was already married, and he had a Siamese cat, so there ya have it. Bob Dylan – Like A Rolling Stone (Lyrics Review and Song Meaning)justrandomthings.com/2016/06/04/bob-dylan-like-rolling-stone-lyrics-review-song-meaning/Mrs. Paul M. -er (just kidding) Interesting. But often these lyrics, as well as works of prose and poetry, are allegories (with hidden meanings). They often tell dual stories, one more obvious than the other. I believe Elton John did that. Told two stories in one song, that is. Thus, some of his lyrics have been criticized as being insipid almost, though I believe he is always telling us a connected story. "My friends out there, rolling round the basement floor", "Just a pawn out-played by a dominating queen", "Saved in time, thank God my music's still alive", "The spotlight's hittin' something that's been known to change the weather". Methinks that sometimes it does work best to pick out individual lyrics, as opposed to considering the lyrics as a whole. Because sometimes, there may be two stories, or meanings, presented at once. If one always examines the lyrics as a whole, inherent and critical sub-plots, may be overlooked. So I carefully consider lyrics that are oddly worded, or don't even seem to fit the melody. And even if Dylan's Siamese cat has no Beatle connection, I still believe there is a connection to the Beatles in Jagger's lyrics. Interesting that lore has it Siamese cats were believed to inherit the souls of their owners, and be the guardians of gold (secrets, perhaps?). Rubber Soul - the soul bouncing around. A Siamese afterward mentioned by Jagger. I've noted this week that many either had, or spoke of, the Siamese. As I've said, I have no trouble believing that other artists pointed to the GOAT band. And I've given my reasons for that in previous posts. And this in particular would apply to so-called Tavistock bands, where some see evidence of exchanges in personnel. And I now believe that Tavistock's reach may have extended far beyond a dominating queen. And that's all I have to say 'bout that. As a host of an old TV show that dealt with the surreal said, "Believe it or not".
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Post by B on Aug 11, 2022 18:04:29 GMT -5
Holey moley, how did you find THIS! My sentiments exactly! What a stunning find! A real gem! I mean: look at it! The words: "My brother Paul" and low and behold, She's a Woman! You would expect there would be a picture of Paul next to those words! And maybe there is! (in a way). But she's not half the man he used to be. S/he's "Ruby Tuedsday"; "Ruby in the Dust", and maybe even "Ruby Red Dress". Desmond stays at home and does his pretty face And in the evening she's a singer with the band Of course, the woman shown is not likely Paul McCartney, but the message is loud loud and clear!
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Post by ekauqodielak on Aug 13, 2022 22:43:26 GMT -5
Holey moley, how did you find THIS! My sentiments exactly! What a stunning find! A real gem! I mean: look at it! The words: "My brother Paul" and low and behold, She's a Woman! You would expect there would be a picture of Paul next to those words! And maybe there is! (in a way). But she's not half the man he used to be. S/he's "Ruby Tuedsday"; "Ruby in the Dust", and maybe even "Ruby Red Dress". Desmond stays at home and does his pretty face And in the evening she's a singer with the band Of course, the woman shown is not likely Paul McCartney, but the message is loud loud and clear! There's something here we haven't unraveled yet, I feel.
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Post by B on Aug 14, 2022 12:06:40 GMT -5
ekauqodielak wrote: "Her connection with Brian Jones resulted in the ironic Rolling Stones track “Miss Amanda Jones,” included on the 1967 album, Between the Buttons."Down and down she goes Our, Amanda Jones I said down and down and down and down She'd look really lovely at home Til somebody gonna come up and ask her To live happily ever after, Miss Amanda Jones On and on she goes Little Miss Amanda Jones I said on and on and on and on Just watch her as she grow Don't wanna say it very obviously But she's losing her nobility, Miss Amanda Jones Hey girl don't you realize The money invested in you Hey girl you just got to find Someone who'll really pull your family through Up and up she goes Our amanda jones I said up and up and up and up She looks quite delightfully stoned She's the darling of the discotheque crowd Of her lineage she's rightfully proud, miss amanda jones Hey girl with your nonsense nose All pointing right down at the floorHey girl your suspender shows And the girl behind you looks a bit unsure Round and round she goes The world of amanda jones I said round and round and round and round The balls and the dinners and show The little girl she just wanders about Til it's time for her coming out, miss amanda jones Round and round and round Round and round and round ----------------------- You walk into the room with your pencil in your hand You see somebody naked and you say, "Who is that man?" You try so hard but you don't understand Just what you will say when you get home Because something is happening here but you don't know what it is Do you, Mr. Jones! ....Well, you walk into the room like a camel, and then you frown You put your eyes in your pocket and your nose on the groundThere ought to be a law against you comin' around You should be made to wear earphones 'Cause something is happening and you don't know what it is Do you, Mr. Jones? ------------------- "Like A Rolling Stone" indeed! ------------- A-man-da (not related, but I just hadda throw it into the mix!
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Post by B on Aug 14, 2022 12:45:51 GMT -5
Is this the motivation behind McCartney’s daubing Tara’s Plastic Skirt? - beaconfilms2011.blogspot.com/2012/05/ He was seen with a string of girlfriends including Amanda Lear, who was rumoured to have been born a man, and Suki Potier. Tara was with Amanda Lear in Paris when he introduced her to the artist Salvador Dali and she would go on to be his muse for the rest of his life. I have often wondered if the Paul McCartney painting entitled ‘Tara’s plastic skirt’ is a veiled reference to Amanda Lear and her rumoured sex change operation. beaconfilms2011.blogspot.com/2012/02/so-what-do-we-know-about-tara-browne.html There's something here we haven't unraveled yet, I feel. youtu.be/Jq7VkBUQ2XgWell, you should see Polythene Pam ("Paul-ie thene Pam) pol·y·the·ismShe's so good-looking but she looks like a man Well, you should see her in drag dressed in her polythene bag Yes, you should see Polythene Pam Yeah, yeah, yeah Get a dose of her in jackboots and kilt She's killer-diller when she's dressed to the hilt She's the kind of a girl that makes the "News of the World" Yes, you could say she was attractively built Yeah, yeah, yeah
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Post by B on Aug 14, 2022 15:33:48 GMT -5
Not to get too far off the flow, but it may be appropriate to insert a video or two from my favorite creepy video poster, Maxwell's Silver Hammer Anvil here, which may or may not, aPaully. Here are two, hot off depresses: disCERNing SORCERY, SCIENCE and SERPENTS -------------------------------------------------------------- DEAD MEN WALKING www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXHY8emGT2g Aug 7, 2022 www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPA_Yvh7puk ------ Hammer Anvil Aug 14, 2022 This post is only for advanced students who wish to further confound themselves with obtuse connections, and can be ignored (at your own peril ). Don't let YouTube's scary censorship tactics frighten you off. The video on the right has a picture of Abbey Road on it, and may have something to do with The Beatles. Views expressed by Mr. Anvil are not necessarily my own.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Aug 14, 2022 16:33:10 GMT -5
Not to get too far off the flow, but it may be appropriate to insert a video or two from my favorite creepy video poster, Maxwell's Silver Hammer Anvil here, which may or may not, aPaully. Here are two, hot off depresses: disCERNing SORCERY, SCIENCE and SERPENTS -------------------------------------------------------------- DEAD MEN WALKING www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXHY8emGT2g Aug 7, 2022 www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPA_Yvh7puk ------ Hammer Anvil Aug 14, 2022 This post is only for advanced students who wish to further confound themselves with obtuse connections, and can be ignored (at your own peril ). Don't let YouTube's scary censorship tactics frighten you off. The video on the right has a picture of Abbey Road on it, and may have something to do with The Beatles. Views expressed by Mr. Anvil are not necessarily my own. That Donny Osmond video he posted a few days ago made me feel high. I don't know what to make of this guy at all.
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Post by B on Aug 14, 2022 16:50:55 GMT -5
A reminder that the Magical Mystery Tour comics (that came inside the album in 1967) appeared to show evidence of Paul's decision to change his gender. Of course it was a cartoon! People didn't know what to make of it. Most people didn't pick up on any of it. Comic reprints from 60IF/TKIN 60if.proboards.com/thread/2699 The numbered text below the pictures is what was printed in the comic. "7. The other passengers are enjoying the bright sunshine, the green countryside. "Excuse me" says LITTLE GEORGE to PAUL "I'd like to take a photograph of your young lady." "O.K." says Paul. "All right" says MAGGIE, THE LOVELY STARLET. 8. "This IS my lucky day!" chuckles Little George who loves to take LOTS of pictures. Click! Clack! CLICK! Meanwhile PAUL BEGINS TO DAYDREAM. His thoughts fly FAR AWAY. He is standing high up on a warm, grassy hill . . . 9. SUDDENLY Paul's daydreaming is over. He hears the delightful voice of the Hostess: "I JUST WANTED TO WAY THAT IF THERE IS ANYTHING I CAN DO FOR YOU . . . YOUR WISH IS OUR COMMAND!" "But I wonder where the MAGIC comes in?" thinks Paul. "--------- It would appear that Paul's daydreaming was about what it would be like to feign his death, and become a woman. His left hand (we see on the right) resembles a dead (headless) body, and the "Fool on the Hill" printing depicts a vagina entrance. He is wearing a dress. He "changes his life with a wave of his hand" depicted on the other hand. He seems to be motivated by what is depicted in the next panel: the lust the men were feeling for "Miss Winters" ("wish" ing to get it on with her) The "?" seems to be an indication of the Beatle shown thinking, "What would it be like to be a woman?" What a marvelous lunch: A weiner being cut. (ouch!) - enough said. Someone losing his weiner. Also referenced in the discussion, the penis - shaped window above the letters "SH" in the word "Wooosh!" Notice that "the great marathon race" is about cloning. The same man in the globe is running in the race. The movie shows cars of different nationalities 'racing' (to see who will be the first to clone a person, implicitly). "I am the eggman" sings John. They (the Beatles) are clones. And not just necessarily of themselves alone. For example, in the "I am the Walrus" video, John wears a 'coat of many colors'. Does that suggest that he is a clone of Joseph in the Bible, whose father made him a "coat of many colors"? interesting commentary linked in the responses at TKIN/601f atruthdiscovered.blogspot.com/2009/10/great-deception-revealed.html#comment-form
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Post by kvo on Aug 14, 2022 18:08:42 GMT -5
A reminder that the Magical Mystery Tour comics (that came inside the album in 1967) appeared to show evidence of Paul's decision to change his gender. Of course it was a cartoon! People didn't know what to make of it. Most people didn't pick up on any of it. Comic reprints from 60IF/TKIN 60if.proboards.com/thread/2699 The numbered text below the pictures is what was printed in the comic. "7. The other passengers are enjoying the bright sunshine, the green countryside. "Excuse me" says LITTLE GEORGE to PAUL "I'd like to take a photograph of your young lady." "O.K." says Paul. "All right" says MAGGIE, THE LOVELY STARLET. 8. "This IS my lucky day!" chuckles Little George who loves to take LOTS of pictures. Click! Clack! CLICK! Meanwhile PAUL BEGINS TO DAYDREAM. His thoughts fly FAR AWAY. He is standing high up on a warm, grassy hill . . . 9. SUDDENLY Paul's daydreaming is over. He hears the delightful voice of the Hostess: "I JUST WANTED TO WAY THAT IF THERE IS ANYTHING I CAN DO FOR YOU . . . YOUR WISH IS OUR COMMAND!" "But I wonder where the MAGIC comes in?" thinks Paul. "--------- It would appear that Paul's daydreaming was about what it would be like to feign his death, and become a woman. His left hand (we see on the right) resembles a dead (headless) body, and the "Fool on the Hill" printing depicts a vagina entrance. He is wearing a dress. He "changes his life with a wave of his hand" depicted on the other hand. He seems to be motivated by what is depicted in the next panel: the lust the men were feeling for "Miss Winters" ("wish" ing to get it on with her) The "?" seems to be an indication of the Beatle shown thinking, "What would it be like to be a woman?" What a marvelous lunch: A weiner being cut. (ouch!) - enough said. Someone losing his weiner. Also referenced in the discussion, the penis - shaped window above the letters "SH" in the word "Wooosh!" Notice that "the great marathon race" is about cloning. The same man in the globe is running in the race. The movie shows cars of different nationalities 'racing' (to see who will be the first to clone a person, implicitly). "I am the eggman" sings John. They (the Beatles) are clones. And not just necessarily of themselves alone. For example, in the "I am the Walrus" video, John wears a 'coat of many colors'. Does that suggest that he is a clone of Joseph in the Bible, whose father made him a "coat of many colors"? interesting commentary linked in the responses at TKIN/601f atruthdiscovered.blogspot.com/2009/10/great-deception-revealed.html#comment-formA new John? What are they doing in the Hyacinth House? What are they doing in the Hyacinth House? To please the lions This day
I need a brand new friend who doesn't bother me I need a brand new friend who doesn't trouble me (Someone to love, somebody new?)I need someone who doesn't need meI see the bathroom is clearI think that somebody's nearI'm sure that someone is following meI'll say it again, I need a brand new friend Not sure I see this as a mere homosexual encounter, anymore. That would be too easy, wouldn't it? The Hyacinth legend. Mentioned here many times before. Hmmm....
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