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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 21, 2009 21:42:16 GMT -5
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Post by peacec on May 22, 2009 4:52:14 GMT -5
i am currently checking this "maccafunhouse" thing out.... first thought: wow, there are a lot of people who are "regulars" there whom also post here. verrrrrrry interesting.   |
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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 22, 2009 5:46:08 GMT -5
i am currently checking this "maccafunhouse" thing out.... first thought: wow, there are a lot of people who are "regulars" there whom also post here. verrrrrrry interesting. Yeah i noticed that and they are also the only people who actually try to drive a conversation on there  |
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Post by JS2 on May 22, 2009 8:42:19 GMT -5
You are a dumbass for mocking our fades and comparisons. This whole site is based on Sun King's shite fades that prove he was lying about being a forensic/photo analyzing expert. What was the point of making a thread just to bash us?
Oh yeah, there wasn't one.
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Post by DarkHorse on May 22, 2009 10:07:18 GMT -5
You are a dumbass for mocking our fades and comparisons. This whole site is based on Sun King's shite fades that prove he was lying about being a forensic/photo analyzing expert. What was the point of making a thread just to bash us? Oh yeah, there wasn't one. Whatever happened to?:
I would like to apologize to anyone I offended with my conduct in a certain thread last time 'round. It will not happen again! |
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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 22, 2009 10:48:58 GMT -5
You are a dumbass for mocking our fades and comparisons. This whole site is based on Sun King's shite fades that prove he was lying about being a forensic/photo analyzing expert. What was the point of making a thread just to bash us? Oh yeah, there wasn't one.  I didn't mean to bash you, but some stuff on there is kinda stupid. I like that you show what a dumbass SunKing really is but some of your own fades are a little suspicious too All you do is pick out the Bill pics that where he looks the absolute most like JPM and that's just stupid. You have to "debunk" the "undebunkable" photos as well, if you can  I also saw some people comparing JPM photos to album covers like "Let It Be"  Those photos have WITHOUT a doubt been doctored But i didn.t mean to bash you, i was just very tired and wanted to get some words out. Sorry |
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Post by pauliedied on May 22, 2009 11:47:41 GMT -5
i think it's great that you apologize! just shouting at each other wont get anyone anywhere. Why dont you post these pictures here that you are taliking about? i think at the MFH a lot of "undebunkable" stuff has been debunked. about the doctoring: there is no proof for that. nothing. the case is: if paul looks like paul, PID believers shout "doctored!". about the smileys: it just became a fun habit there, not to be taken seriously!  |
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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 22, 2009 12:13:08 GMT -5
hehe. But there is one instant of doctoring i can remember from on top of my head. The Bill pic in The White Album, you know the extreme close-up? I do remember a version of that photo which is more zoomed out and with a longer face, more "Bill" looking. And then we have that "Mountain Man" photo where his beard is all black. Don't now what they would gain from that Maybe just to make him look LIKE A MAN ;D |
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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 22, 2009 12:28:51 GMT -5
 I found this "Mr. Potato" thingy (Clever name ) And LOOK AT THAT PAUL PIC  Doesn't that look DOCTORED?!?! JPM had a ROUND face! Good thing they use vintage pics... Not to be mean or anything but jeez That one is justs tupid. And the composite scares me, it kinda looks like those supposed "Faul before surgery" pics  Here we CLEARLY see Bills weird looking nose before the final (?) nosejob AND his longer face Doesn't match up at all, one of the worst i've seen (No offense! Just my own opinion!)  Oh goodie... the jawline... that is all i have to say about this one...  My fucking 3 year old cousin wouldn't call that the same man! LOOK at that thin face! And that oversized wig! Why would Paul wear a wig (well he as going bald soo...) Mr. Potato is a good idea but after all the headshape is what gives him away. A fade between those two pictures would NEVER work. And no, it's not because the lost weight, the shape of the skull does not change when you lose weight (This applies to some people on MFH who used the "He lost weight and did alot drugs" as an argument to his "thinner"/longer face) .......... AND AGAIN NO OFFENSE TO MHF! I'M JUST GIVING SOME CRITICISM AND EVERYONE NEEDS SOME CRITICISM TO COME BACK NEW AND BETTER! ;D |
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Post by JS2 on May 22, 2009 13:45:05 GMT -5
Not in the mood for this sort of arguing!
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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 22, 2009 13:48:18 GMT -5
Not in the mood for this sort of arguing! Me either, I don't want to argue with you and i don't want you to think bad of me or anything  I'm just giving my opinion. |
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Post by pauliedied on May 22, 2009 13:50:18 GMT -5
A fade between those two pictures would NEVER work. I decline, a fade works perfectly. Because its the same guy. look  I agree that some of the above comps are not the best.. but this IS the same guy! |
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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 22, 2009 14:27:56 GMT -5
PERFECTLY? I do agree that they matched pretty well but the thin face, different chin and eylids. C'mon! Why can't some people see the obviously different eyes! The ear on the left side also seems to move up a bit.... (But that's because on the Pepper pic Bill is slighty tilting his head, realised that just now ;D) EDIT: Just noticed how the cheekbones seems to pop out of nowhere Bill had a very weak chin in that picture and that fade proves it |
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Post by pauliedied on May 22, 2009 14:45:19 GMT -5
of course there are minor differences. because its two different pictures, not two different men! look at this: ^  see what i mean? 2 vintage shots of Paul. You think this is the same man? yet this is not?:  |
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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 22, 2009 15:02:23 GMT -5
Hmmm... you are indeed tricky. But the pepper photo is an official album photo so why does he looks so different? Doesn't musicians look the most like themselves on thier album covers? (for the most part, and i'm not talking about makeup here, every musician looks different because of makeup but not THAT different)) Was it the photographer who decided to make Paul look "un-paulish" by making him wear an oversized wig? About the two pictures at the bottom, i can't really comment. I can't compare them fully, as I can't see Pauls eye brows or his neck. And i would also like to ad that i'm no expert on this. I'm just getting into this BUT i do see two different people. Someone might say "That's just because someone told you that they are two different people!" No, that is not the case. NOBODY has told ME anything. I have read/watched it myself and accepted it myself. JoJo or Doc never phoned me and said "Hey punk PAUL IS DEAD BELIVE IT" Ok going a little off-topic here but i just wanted to let everybody know  P.S (I love you ) No offense to JoJo or Doc |
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Post by FP on May 22, 2009 15:22:38 GMT -5
Be careful pauliedied! You just posted the comparison where the '67 pic looks "too much like Paul" Does a thread like this serve more of a purpose than the "lack of conversation" we have? I mean, when you believe in PIA, what's there to talk about? The discussion is over for us, unlike the PWR believers who are still trying to come up with a solid conclusion. OF COURSE we're going to be silly. We don't need to take the lack of a conspiracy seriously. ;D And yes, some fades aren't going to be great (especially if you've just started), but we've shown over and over again that not only do some pictures of the same person not always match up or fit into another pictures perfectly, but more importantly, two different people will NEVER match up the way we've managed to get photographs of Paul and "Faul" to match up. Now, I used to spend quite a bit of time posting my fades here, but... the mods didn't really like that. So if you want to have an actual discussion about PID/PIA, sign up and I'll show you things I personally believe to believe to be pretty indisputable. It can even be through private messages if the members' silliness bothers you that much. Until then, I don't see what you're trying to accomplish by saying things that pretty much everyone here is already with you on. |
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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 22, 2009 15:28:33 GMT -5
Be careful pauliedied! You just posted the comparison where the '67 pic looks "too much like Paul" Does a thread like this serve more of a purpose than the "lack of conversation" we have? I mean, when you believe in PIA, what's there to talk about? The discussion is over for us, unlike the PWR believers who are still trying to come up with a solid conclusion. OF COURSE we're going to be silly. We don't need to take the lack of a conspiracy seriously. ;D And yes, some fades aren't going to be great (especially if you've just started), but we've shown over and over again that not only do some pictures of the same person not always match up or fit into another pictures perfectly, but more importantly, two different people will NEVER match up the way we've managed to get photographs of Paul and "Faul" to match up. Now, I used to spend quite a bit of time posting my fades here, but... the mods didn't really like that. So if you want to have an actual discussion about PID/PIA, sign up and I'll show you things I personally believe to believe to be pretty indisputable. It can even be through private messages if the members' silliness bothers you that much. Until then, I don't see what you're trying to accomplish by saying things that pretty much everyone here is already with you on. I'm fine with people being silly, but sometimes it can go a little overboard ;D And i'm not trying to accomplish anything I'm just trying to prove my point. If i really eanted to accomplish something i'll go and wipe the internets clean of every Paul/Faul pic and compare them all under a microscope. I'm not doing that, i'm just backing up what other people are saying and having my own words on things "two different people will NEVER match up the way we've managed to get photographs of Paul and "Faul" to match up." Well that's because Faul was designed to look as much as Paul as possible. Two random pictures of guys off the internet don't match up because they are COMPLETELY different people. Faul is not a COMPLETELY different person from Paul, proven by the fact that (almost) everyone belives his lies to this day And what do you mean by "managed to get to photos of Paul and Faul to match up" You don't "manage" to get photos to match, if they don't match, thet don't. Please explan |
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Post by eyesbleed on May 22, 2009 15:35:13 GMT -5
The PID vs PIA debate has been going on here for years & I don't think there will ever be a definitive answer to settle this.
Personally, I think JPM may still be alive today, but the fact that he was replaced.... permanently or temporarily... is obvious.
The difference between 66 JPM pics & 67 faul pics is striking.
There's a gazillion questions surrounding this deal that may never be answered, but the existence of a replacement is one part of this that's very clear.
There was a replacement, at least temporarily. That's obvious.
No fades are needed to see that if your eyes are connected to your brain & the mental filters are turned off.
Fades can be made to show whatever you want them to show, so in my book, they're useless.
You don't see fades showing up around here to show 2 different people because they aren't needed. And besides, most of us have already been faded to death years ago.
And there's probably a post of mine buried around here from a few years ago that's almost identical to this one.... around the block one more time.
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Post by eyesbleed on May 22, 2009 15:43:22 GMT -5
Faul is not a COMPLETELY different person from Paul, proven by the fact that (almost) everyone belives his lies to this day The Sgt.P, Magical Mystery Tour Faul is a completely different person in ever respect.... Body build, head shape, face, voice, everything is completely different. Just put some funny clothes on them, add some facial hair, & say it's Paul & everyone will believe! (and the money keeps rolling in) |
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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 22, 2009 15:51:24 GMT -5
Faul is not a COMPLETELY different person from Paul, proven by the fact that (almost) everyone belives his lies to this day The Sgt.P, Magical Mystery Tour Faul is a completely different person in ever respect.... Body build, head shape, face, voice, everything is completely different. Just put some funny clothes on them, add some facial hair, & say it's Paul & everyone will believe! (and the money keeps rolling in) Yeah if you look at it like that, but i mean more public-wise. If the general public buys the whole thing, they can't be 100 % different I would say, 99.9 though ;D |
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Post by ramone on May 22, 2009 16:10:00 GMT -5
The PID vs PIA debate has been going on here for years & I don't think there will ever be a definitive answer to settle this. Personally, I think JPM may still be alive today, but the fact that he was replaced.... permanently or temporarily... is obvious. The difference between 66 JPM pics & 67 faul pics is striking. There's a gazillion questions surrounding this deal that may never be answered, but the existence of a replacement is one part of this that's very clear. There was a replacement, at least temporarily. That's obvious. No fades are needed to see that if your eyes are connected to your brain & the mental filters are turned off. Fades can be made to show whatever you want them to show, so in my book, they're useless. You don't see fades showing up around here to show 2 different people because they aren't needed. And besides, most of us have already been faded to death years ago. And there's probably a post of mine buried around here from a few years ago that's almost identical to this one.... around the block one more time. Well said. |
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Post by ramone on May 22, 2009 16:12:46 GMT -5
Keep in mind the front cover 'Paul' is probably an amalgam.
Check the other pics of him from pepper.
Then check a vintage JPM pic.
Doesn't look like either.
A faul that's been touched up.
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Post by FP on May 22, 2009 16:21:54 GMT -5
[ Well that's because Faul was designed to look as much as Paul as possible. Two random pictures of guys off the internet don't match up because they are COMPLETELY different people. Faul is not a COMPLETELY different person from Paul, proven by the fact that (almost) everyone belives his lies to this day And what do you mean by "managed to get to photos of Paul and Faul to match up" You don't "manage" to get photos to match, if they don't match, thet don't. Please explan He was designed to look like him? I'm saying when they do match up, (which they always do under the right lighting and angle), they match up better than Michael Jackson matches up with people who have had plastic surgery to look like him, better than professional McCartney impersonators, none of whom would be able to fool anyone, and better than people matched up with themselves sometimes! And we haven't just shown that the face is the same under various angles. We've compared speech, gestures, expressions, teeth, and facial flaws. Facial flaws is the most convincing in my opinion. You're used to seeing Paul like this: img208.echo.cx/img208/2854/fnipc17za.gifBut, his face is very asymmetrical. We can instantly determine whether a picture has been flipped or not for both Paul and "Faul". When we flip all those pics, we get this: img231.echo.cx/img231/5438/fnipc22kk.gifHow can you get plastic surgery to alter your whole face like that (including his entire eye) without looking like Joan Rivers? Also, check out the indentation on his chin that he only gets when he smiles under certain lighting. img201.echo.cx/img201/8383/chinm18jn.jpgimg208.echo.cx/img208/3343/cm31xj.jpgWanna see anything else? |
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Post by mumrikusstarr on May 22, 2009 16:29:10 GMT -5
That chin thing... kinda cool i have to admit. But it's not impossible to replicate with plastic surgery... I don't really want to start and arguement but how do you explain the earlobes and changes in singing voice?
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Post by FP on May 22, 2009 16:59:06 GMT -5
That chin thing... kinda cool i have to admit. But it's not impossible to replicate with plastic surgery... I don't really want to start and arguement but how do you explain the earlobes and changes in singing voice? I hear no change in singing voice from Revolver to Pepper. What I hear a lot is comparisons between "Eleanor Rigby" and stuff like "I Will" which of course will be totally off. Paul has one of the greatest vocal ranges (not in pitch, but like different voices he uses) than anyone I can think of. You have to match up the right ones. Here There and Everywhere should be compared to I Will, and She's Leaving Home With Eleanor Rigby, and "How can you laugh?..." with "It was 20 years ago today!". As for the earlobes, give me a link to the vid where you say his ear comes off, I gotta see that. |
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