Post by fubarak on Mar 20, 2010 19:06:54 GMT -5
Hello, I'm a newcomer. Here's something I put together, crossposting from the Doppleganger and Identity Research Forum:
Rumors have been swirling around the illness of Egyptian President (and dictator) Hosni Mubarak. He was briefly reported dead by a Russian news source after Mubarak's surgery in Germany to have his gallbladder removed. Since then, photos and video footage of him at the hospital has been circulated, and he has reportedly talked on the phone with various Arab leaders. Nevertheless, rumors of trickery continue to circulate.
Here's one of the first English-language blog reports:
Mar. 14 2010 - 2:53 pm | 4,329 views | 1 recommendation | 2 comments
"Did Hosni Mubarak die in surgery?"
"The talk of the Egyptian blogosphere right now is a fast-spreading rumor that President Hosni Mubarak has died. Hundreds of Egyptian and Arabic-speaking Twitter users are posting news of the 81-year-old leader’s death. The reports occurred after reports of Mubarak dying in a German hospital were broadcast on Russian television and on Arabic television.
Hosni Mubarak has been the President of Egypt since 1981, making him the country’s longest-serving leader since Mohammed Ali.
So… is Mubarak dead?
Here is what is publicly known. As always, the caveat must be made that Egypt exercises heavy-handed press censorship on the press. Also keep in mind that Mubarak’s health is among the most taboo subjects in the Egyptian press: Journalists have been jailed in the past for writing about Mubarak’s health. So all this, again, is written with a grain of salt.
Hosni Mubarak traveled to Heidelberg University Hospital in Heidelberg, Germany two weeks ago to have a growth removed from his small intestine and to have his gall bladder removed. Three public statements were made in the past week.
The first, by Health Minister Hatem al-Gabali, is a week old:
“The state of the president’s health continues to improve two days after the operation [...] Over the coming two days, the medical team treating the president will make a new report on the president’s health condition.”
The second is from Dr. Markus Buechler, a pancreatic surgery specialist at Heidelberg. He reported that benign tissues were removed from Mubarak a few days later and that he was in the ICU:
“The final pathology report has confirmed the benign nature of the tissues removed during the surgery [...] President Mubarak’s convalescence phase in the coming days will include increased physical mobility to recover from all the effects of the surgical intervention. [...] President Mubarak’s overall medical condition continues to improve in a satisfactory manner. Yesterday he was transferred from the intensive care unit to a regular room in our hospital. [...] He is also expected to gradually return to normal diet. The president will remain during this phase under our medical care and our direct and continuous supervision.”
The third statement was made on Sunday morning, German time, again by Buechler. This one was much more curt:
“Mubarak is progressing normally.”
Note that none of the hospital statements said anything about when Mubarak would be released.
In a strange bout of timing, Egyptian authorities decided to ban Skype.
If Mubarak is indeed dead, a power struggle is expected between his hand-picked successor, son Gamal Mubarak, military/intelligence candidate General Omar Suleiman and former International Atomic Energy Head Mohammed el-Baradei, who recently returned to Egypt to a flurry of public acclaim.
Once again, we do not know if Mubarak is alive or dead. We do know that the wall of silence around his hospital stay, however, is strange even for these circumstances. But most important of all, Mubarak is 81 years old. World leaders who have reached that age, frankly, do not tend to stay for long."
trueslant.com/nealungerleider/201....die-in-surgery/
Hospital footage released March 16 2010:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV2NmQ2-3lk
Hospital footage released March 19 2010, with live audio of his voice:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDu-CjxHSrQ
For comparison-- footage of Mubarak interview with Charlie Rose, posted August 18, 2009:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvYe2-PabZY&feature=related
A video that TrueSlant identifies as "Above: An Egyptian video (عربي) predicting Mubarak’s death.": www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUAEBocoXXc&feature=player_embedded
This video contains many closeup photos of Mubarak's face, pre-surgery.
I don't know enough about Mubarak to judge, but there has been quite a lot of speculation.
Some photos:
Standard Google Image Search photo, pre-surgery:
Screenshot from Charlie Rose interview, 2009:
March 16, first footage after surgery
March 19, second footage after surgery
Rumors have been swirling around the illness of Egyptian President (and dictator) Hosni Mubarak. He was briefly reported dead by a Russian news source after Mubarak's surgery in Germany to have his gallbladder removed. Since then, photos and video footage of him at the hospital has been circulated, and he has reportedly talked on the phone with various Arab leaders. Nevertheless, rumors of trickery continue to circulate.
Here's one of the first English-language blog reports:
Mar. 14 2010 - 2:53 pm | 4,329 views | 1 recommendation | 2 comments
"Did Hosni Mubarak die in surgery?"
"The talk of the Egyptian blogosphere right now is a fast-spreading rumor that President Hosni Mubarak has died. Hundreds of Egyptian and Arabic-speaking Twitter users are posting news of the 81-year-old leader’s death. The reports occurred after reports of Mubarak dying in a German hospital were broadcast on Russian television and on Arabic television.
Hosni Mubarak has been the President of Egypt since 1981, making him the country’s longest-serving leader since Mohammed Ali.
So… is Mubarak dead?
Here is what is publicly known. As always, the caveat must be made that Egypt exercises heavy-handed press censorship on the press. Also keep in mind that Mubarak’s health is among the most taboo subjects in the Egyptian press: Journalists have been jailed in the past for writing about Mubarak’s health. So all this, again, is written with a grain of salt.
Hosni Mubarak traveled to Heidelberg University Hospital in Heidelberg, Germany two weeks ago to have a growth removed from his small intestine and to have his gall bladder removed. Three public statements were made in the past week.
The first, by Health Minister Hatem al-Gabali, is a week old:
“The state of the president’s health continues to improve two days after the operation [...] Over the coming two days, the medical team treating the president will make a new report on the president’s health condition.”
The second is from Dr. Markus Buechler, a pancreatic surgery specialist at Heidelberg. He reported that benign tissues were removed from Mubarak a few days later and that he was in the ICU:
“The final pathology report has confirmed the benign nature of the tissues removed during the surgery [...] President Mubarak’s convalescence phase in the coming days will include increased physical mobility to recover from all the effects of the surgical intervention. [...] President Mubarak’s overall medical condition continues to improve in a satisfactory manner. Yesterday he was transferred from the intensive care unit to a regular room in our hospital. [...] He is also expected to gradually return to normal diet. The president will remain during this phase under our medical care and our direct and continuous supervision.”
The third statement was made on Sunday morning, German time, again by Buechler. This one was much more curt:
“Mubarak is progressing normally.”
Note that none of the hospital statements said anything about when Mubarak would be released.
In a strange bout of timing, Egyptian authorities decided to ban Skype.
If Mubarak is indeed dead, a power struggle is expected between his hand-picked successor, son Gamal Mubarak, military/intelligence candidate General Omar Suleiman and former International Atomic Energy Head Mohammed el-Baradei, who recently returned to Egypt to a flurry of public acclaim.
Once again, we do not know if Mubarak is alive or dead. We do know that the wall of silence around his hospital stay, however, is strange even for these circumstances. But most important of all, Mubarak is 81 years old. World leaders who have reached that age, frankly, do not tend to stay for long."
trueslant.com/nealungerleider/201....die-in-surgery/
Hospital footage released March 16 2010:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV2NmQ2-3lk
Hospital footage released March 19 2010, with live audio of his voice:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDu-CjxHSrQ
For comparison-- footage of Mubarak interview with Charlie Rose, posted August 18, 2009:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvYe2-PabZY&feature=related
A video that TrueSlant identifies as "Above: An Egyptian video (عربي) predicting Mubarak’s death.": www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUAEBocoXXc&feature=player_embedded
This video contains many closeup photos of Mubarak's face, pre-surgery.
I don't know enough about Mubarak to judge, but there has been quite a lot of speculation.
Some photos:
Standard Google Image Search photo, pre-surgery:
Screenshot from Charlie Rose interview, 2009:
March 16, first footage after surgery
March 19, second footage after surgery