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Post by iameye on Feb 17, 2011 18:47:24 GMT -5
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Post by jarvitronics on Feb 17, 2011 18:55:48 GMT -5
Look again eye; the image you used wanted to be "picked apart," so I obliged it. -j
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Post by iameye on Feb 17, 2011 19:43:52 GMT -5
Look again eye; the image you used wanted to be "picked apart," so I obliged it. -j so be it deaf aids rock of ages! really, really high like a Sunflower
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Post by B on Feb 17, 2011 21:22:26 GMT -5
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Feb 17, 2011 22:33:28 GMT -5
Look again eye; the image you used wanted to be "picked apart," so I obliged it. -j so be it deaf aids rock of ages! really, really high like a Sunflower if you were to watch the video in reverse i think you would see a very strange thing happening. i was reminded of this www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzsWuqNlLK4
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Post by iameye on Feb 18, 2011 8:03:32 GMT -5
Rock Band Sitting in an English garden waiting for the sun. If the sun don't come, you get a tan From standing in the English rain. welcome the rolling stones
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Post by iameye on Feb 18, 2011 9:34:56 GMT -5
like a flower in the garden Facing East
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Feb 19, 2011 4:48:02 GMT -5
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Post by iameye on Feb 19, 2011 5:15:20 GMT -5
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Feb 19, 2011 22:18:55 GMT -5
i just recieved psychomagic by alejandro jodorowsky in the mail today. im reading it and i come across this:
"a japanese haiku provided a key for us. a student brought the master his poem, which stated:
a butterfly: take away the wings and it turns into a pepper!
the master's response was immmediate: "no, no: it is not like that. let me correct your poem":
a pepper: add wings and it turns into a butterfly.
the lesson here is clear: the poetic act must always be positive; it must be constructive and not destructive."
alejandro jodorowsky is the director of holy mountain and el topo
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Feb 19, 2011 22:23:49 GMT -5
EL TOPO - I highly suggest watching this. Then i suggest watching Holy Mountain.
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Post by iameye on Feb 20, 2011 4:30:53 GMT -5
i just recieved psychomagic by alejandro jodorowsky in the mail today. im reading it and i come across this: "a japanese haiku provided a key for us. a student brought the master his poem, which stated: a butterfly: take away the wings and it turns into a pepper! the master's response was immmediate: "no, no: it is not like that. let me correct your poem": a pepper: add wings and it turns into a butterfly. the lesson here is clear: the poetic act must always be positive; it must be constructive and not destructive." alejandro jodorowsky is the director of holy mountain and el topo Hey we have a Beatles haiku thread here, too. lol invanddis.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=fun&thread=4860&page=1All Together Now Close your eyes and I'll kiss you In conversation
Was I so unwise? Take a good look around you Tres bien ensemble
J odorowsky's visually psychedelic story follows the metaphysical thrust of Mount Analogue such as the climb to the Alchemist, the assembly of individuals with specific skills, the discovery of the mountain that unites Heaven and Earth "that cannot not exist" and symbolic challenges along the mountain ascent.Nothing is Real
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Post by B on Feb 20, 2011 5:24:09 GMT -5
seasaltcaramel wrote: " EL TOPO - I highly suggest watching this." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Topo <---"Cliff's Notes""Noteworthy figures said to be fans of the film include directors David Lynch and Samuel Fuller, actors Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper, comedians The Mighty Boosh, and performers Bob Dylan, Roger Waters, Marilyn Manson, Jarvis Cocker, Peter Gabriel and John Lennon.
Gabriel has claimed that this movie was an inspiration for the classic Genesis concept album, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. John Barham re-recorded the score for release on Apple Records at the request of John Lennon. Goichi Suda cited El Topo as a key inspiration for his game No More Heroes. Similarities include having a woman asking the protagonist to defeat the gunmasters/assassins in order to be the best, and the protagonist completing several odd jobs for money."seasaltcaramel wrote: " Then i suggest watching Holy Mountain." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film)There are posts here about Holy Mountain, but I have no idea where they are. (edit. Thanks iameye.)Eyes Wide Shut ain't got nothing on Holy Mountain (many descriptions of it)www.scribd.com/doc/24488700/Bill-Harry-the-Paul-McCartney-Encyclopedia-12"Take the case of the film director Alejandro Jodorowsky. John Lennon saw his film El Topo and he was so impressed he contacted Klein to finance Jodorowsky's next film Holy Mountain. As a result, Klein acquired the rights to El Topo and Holy Mountain. This did, indeed, prove disastrous for Jodorowsky, as Klein destroyed the orig inal negatives and prevented the films being shown. In the 1990s, Jodorowsky issued a statement headed 'Jodorowsky vs. Klein', the text of which read:
Allen Klein insists to prevent my movies from being shown. Now he's trying to bring me into a trial for having shown my movies in some festivals and pirate copies. It would be good that all the people who admire my work demand lifetime jail for Klein, under the charge of cultural murder. Killing a work of art is as monstrous as killing a human being. For 25 years Klein has prohibited the public to see 'El Topo' and 'The Holy Mountain'. He has destroyed the original negatives. It would be necessary to have a worldwide campaign against him and his crimes. Please translate this message in all possible languages and send it to as many people as you can. We will establish the existence of cultural crime against humanity. Allen Klein is a criminal, together with his accomplice lawyers. All of them deserve punishment and prison."comment: I dislike gory films, and so I will not subject myself to either of these. Perverse imagery is a bummer. No thanks!
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Feb 20, 2011 9:33:47 GMT -5
seasaltcaramel wrote: " EL TOPO - I highly suggest watching this." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Topo <---"Cliff's Notes""Noteworthy figures said to be fans of the film include directors David Lynch and Samuel Fuller, actors Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper, comedians The Mighty Boosh, and performers Bob Dylan, Roger Waters, Marilyn Manson, Jarvis Cocker, Peter Gabriel and John Lennon.
Gabriel has claimed that this movie was an inspiration for the classic Genesis concept album, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. John Barham re-recorded the score for release on Apple Records at the request of John Lennon. Goichi Suda cited El Topo as a key inspiration for his game No More Heroes. Similarities include having a woman asking the protagonist to defeat the gunmasters/assassins in order to be the best, and the protagonist completing several odd jobs for money."seasaltcaramel wrote: " Then i suggest watching Holy Mountain." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film)There's a thread here about Holy Mountain, but I have no idea where it is. I don't know if there's a specific thread, B, but I've mentioned Jodorowsky a few times: Reply #21 of the Love Code thread. i think i see it - unless its my mind playing tricks on me... here's another one is the walrus the gate of saturn? www.harrypotterforseekers.com/alchemy/alchemy.php" Every mortal human being passes through the Gate of Saturn at the end of every incarnation. The harvest of his life is gathered into the storehouse of the microcosm as the personality dies. The microcosm then prepares for a new incarnation, ready to pour the harvest into a new personality about to be born. However the whole purpose of life on earth is to learn to go through the Gate of Saturn for the last time."
Great post, Iameye!
Your Harry Potter connection led me to the Rosicrucians, which led me to the MONS PHILOSOPHORUM, and the Mountain of Initiation:
Each of us has to climb the various stages of this mountain, so let us start from the bottom. The first thing we notice, is the date 1604. According to the Fama Fraternitatis, this is the date of the opening of the Tomb of Christian Rosenkreutz. Thus the opening of the Tomb, the Below, is like the beginning of the climb up the mountain, the Above. The Tomb and the mountain are polar opposites and we must not neglect the Below just because we are focused on the Above. However, since the Below is like the Above, whatever we know about the Tomb, will help us with the climb up the mountain.
There are 7 stages (LEVELS) up the mountain and there are 7 sides of the Tomb. This means that both are symbols of a differentiated unity. All parts are important, all steps must be taken. To get into the Tomb, we have to break down a stone wall in order to find a hidden door. At its base, the mountain is surrounded by a stone wall. There is an open gate, but we must get past the gate keeper. Let us pause here and consider our position. In this regard, we are like the three figures outside the gate. We all come here with different motives but we must all pass the same tests. Why three figures? We have three vehicles of consciousness: body, soul and spirit. They must work together.
Have you noticed the rabbit? It is a symbol of sexuality and fertility that lives in a womb-like burrow. What does all this mean? The clue is the number 7. The seventh sefira on the Tree of Life is attributed to Venus, the goddess of sexuality and fertility. Venus is the astrological planet from the Above and is attributed to the alchemical copper from the Below. What reconciles this polarity? It is the throat chakra. This is the entrance to the Tomb and the beginning of the climb up the mountain. That is why there are 7 stages of the climb. The 7 chakras must be activated and we now know which one to start with.
Let us approach the gate keeper. Above his head there is an arch. The headstone reminds us of the stone rejected by the builders which became the head of the corner. This is the Stone of the Philosophers. It is not yet the Philosophers' Stone. How do we enter the gate? There is a polarity that we must reconcile; on the left a quick, active rabbit and on the right, a patient brooding hen. The gate keeper is the Guardian of the Threshold and to get past him, we must have mental speed and agility, as well the love and care of a fully developed emotional nature. These are the two ways of alchemy and both must be developed. Beware, the old man is only the first Guardian. Getting past him, is only the first stage up the mountain.
We now pass through the tunnel into the darkness of the heart of the mountain. This reminds us of the meaning of VITRIOL and its admonition to go to the centre of the earth and rectify the hidden stone. We emerge from our darkness only to be confronted by the second Guardian, the dragon. This is the Terror on the Threshold. What does this mean? On the ceiling of the Tomb of Christian Rosenkreutz, its 7-fold structure is symbolised by the 7 planets connected in this order:
Venus Þ Saturn Þ Sun Þ Moon Þ Mars Þ Mercury Þ Jupiter Þ Venus
There are 7 planets, but they form an octave. If we look carefully at the mountain, we shall find another octave. But let us go back to the dragon. His effect upon us corresponds to the influence of Saturn. In turn, Saturn corresponds to the base chakra. So this is the second stage of our climb.
More here:
www.crcsite.org/Mons.htm
Reply #30 of the Love Code thread.: Here's a Lennon/Ono funded version of the Mountain of Initiation:
The Holy Mountain (1973 film)
Directed by Alejandro Jodorowsky Produced by Alejandro Jodorowsky, Allen Klein Distributed by ABKCO (Allen & Betty Klein and Company) Films Release date(s) 1973
The Holy Mountain, reissued as The Sacred Mountain is a 1973 cult film directed by Alejandro Jodorowsky who also participated as actor, composer, set designer, and costume designer. The film was produced by Beatles manager Allen Klein of ABKCO after Jodorowsky scored an underground phenomenon with El Topo and the acclaim of both John Lennon and George Harrison (John and Yoko Ono put up production money). It was shown at various international film festivals in 1973 and limited screenings in New York and San Francisco. However the film was never given wide release until 2007, when a restored print toured the United States, screening with El Topo, and released in DVD format from May 1st.
Inspiration:
The film is based on "The Ascent of Mt. Carmel" by St. John of the Cross and "Mount Analogue: A Novel of Symbolically Authentic Non-Euclidean Adventures in Mountain Climbing" by Rene Daumal, a student of G.I. Gurdjieff. In particular, much of Jodorowsky's visually psychedelic story follows the metaphysical thrust of "Mount Analogue" such as the climb to the Alchemist, the assembly of individuals with specific skills, the discovery of the mountain that unites Heaven and Earth "that cannot not exist" and symbolic challenges along the mountain ascent. Daumal died before finishing his allegorical novel, and Jodorowsky's improvised ending provides a clever way of completing the Work (symbolic and otherwise.)
Plot:
A man (later identified as a thief) representing THE FOOL, a tarot card typically depicting a young man stepping off a cliff, lies face down on the ground, having fallen from the cliff. He is befriended by a footless, handless dwarf (representing the five of swords: defeat) and goes into a city to make money from tourists. The thief's resemblance to Christ inspires some to use his likeness for the crucifixes which they sell. After a dispute with a priest who rejects the thief's wax likeness of himself, the thief eats off the face of his wax statue and sends it skyward with balloons, symbolically eating the body of Christ and offering "himself" up to heaven. Soon after, he notices a crowd gathered around a large tower, where a large hook with a bag of gold has been sent down in exchange for food. The thief, wishing to find the source of the gold, ascends the tower; finding the alchemist (played by Jodorowsky).
After a confrontation with the alchemist, the thief defecates into a container. The excrement is transformed into gold by the alchemist who proclaims: "You are excrement. You can change yourself into gold." The thief is introduced to seven people who are said to be the most powerful but who, like the thief, are mortal. They are related to the planets in astrological terms and portrayed with broad-brush satire, each personifying the worst aspects of his or her planet's supposed characteristics. The seven consist of: a cosmetics manufacturer, a weapons manufacturer, a millionaire, a political financial adviser, a toy maker, a police chief and an architect. They are gathered together by the alchemist who instructs them to burn their money and wax images of themselves.
After several scenes wherein the characters are led by the alchemist through several death/rebirth rituals, they all journey to Lotus Island to gain the secret of immortality from nine immortal masters who live on a holy mountain. Once on Lotus Island they are sidetracked by the "Pantheon Bar", a cemetery party where people have abandoned their quest for the holy mountain and instead engage in drugs, poetry or acts of physical prowess. Leaving the bar behind, they ascend the mountain and each have personal symbolic visions representing each characters worst fears and obsessions. Near the top, the thief is sent back to his "people" along with a young prostitute and an ape who has followed him to the mountain. The rest confront the cloaked immortals who are shown to be only faceless dummies. The alchemist then reveals the film apparatus just outside the frame (cameras, microphone, lights and crew) and instructs everyone (including the audience for the film) to leave the holy mountain. "Real life awaits us," he says.
Reply #33 of the Love Code thread. More on the Jodorowsky/Holy Mountain/Beatles connection:
Alejandro Jodorowsky:
Cream of the Beatles still of JPM, or Faul, or Bill becoming Faul, or.......Gene Simmons (Thanks, MBird ;D):
Here's a still from Jodorowsky's Holy Mountain, of a man removing one of his eyes:
JPM being measured for his WAX DUMMY?
A still from Jodorowsky's El Topo (Lennon's favorite Movie):
And the Eye of Horus...erm, I mean...Eye of Sir Paul:
I'm detecting a pattern here...
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Post by iameye on Feb 20, 2011 10:02:08 GMT -5
"Thus the opening of the Tomb, the Below, is like the beginning of the climb up the mountain, the Above. The Tomb and the mountain are polar opposites and we must not neglect the Below just because we are focused on the Above. However, since the Below is like the Above, whatever we know about the Tomb, will help us with the climb up the mountain. There are 7 stages (LEVELS) up the mountain and there are 7 sides of the Tomb. This means that both are symbols of a differentiated unity. All parts are important, all steps must be taken. To get into the Tomb, we have to break down a stone wall in order to find a hidden door. At its base, the mountain is surrounded by a stone wall. There is an open gate, but we must get past the gate keeper. Let us pause here and consider our position. In this regard, we are like the three figures outside the gate. We all come here with different motives but we must all pass the same tests. Why three figures? We have three vehicles of consciousness: body, soul and spirit. They must work together." Mt Mc Lily's Tomb
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Feb 20, 2011 17:36:30 GMT -5
even if you dont like gory movies... wait, this is a paul is dead forum. these films are about as gory as a clint eastwood fillm. (disregard the man pulling iut his own eye. or the scene in el topo when the whole town is slaughtered and they have to wade through a pool of blood in the chapel. please disregard these.) im just kidding, but these are strange films.particularly the alchemist turning the main characters poop into gold. -- holy mountain.
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