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Post by sall on Jun 29, 2011 23:08:47 GMT -5
Hmm. The later 'Paul' seems to be more of a jerk. More uptight and anxious sounding. but their voices are identical.
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Post by thewalruswaspaul on Jul 1, 2011 16:29:31 GMT -5
Hmm. The later 'Paul' seems to be more of a jerk. More uptight and anxious sounding. but their voices are identical. Another example.
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Post by Paul on Jul 2, 2011 4:26:22 GMT -5
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Post by sall on Jul 10, 2011 11:47:11 GMT -5
thanks for all the different opinions guys!
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Post by maxwell on Jul 20, 2011 20:28:01 GMT -5
I agree, while remarkably similar, these are two different people. When it's not concealed beneath his mop-head of (wig) hair, Paul's forehead bulges out at the front & sides. Unlike Faul's. Also, people don't get taller or falsetto with age. Paul was 5'8" & had a husky voice. Faul is 5'11" & has a much higher toned voice. But the real difference to me, is in personalities. Remember those earlier pictures of Paul dancing - naked on a balcony, or with 'ghostly' hands behind him. He was the life & soul of a party. whereas Faul is sombre & seclusionary. Despite him equating freedom with satanism, I don't think Faul's done a bad job, I think he's been instrumental in dropping clues about the whole affair. they wanted to be the most talked about band in history. I think with the fame etc over the years he's got more full-of-himself. He's always pointing at people in pics. what's that all about !? Thanks for all the opinions guys. I'm keeping in mind what everyone says. My opinion is that photos can be useful and show the difference, but they are only of so much use. To really 'get it', you've got to watch footage. Just watch these two videos. Paul McCartney, 1964 David Frost interview. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNYVxqJ83W8'Paul McCartney', 1967, 'LSD' interview. www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHC0s6G3VbMTwo different guys. Different shaped heads, different eyes, '67 guy with the much longer head also has a longer nose, mouth downturns in the corners at times in a kind of frown. The bottom lip hangs out a little, while the distance of the bottom of the nose to the top of the top lip is noticeably greater than in the '64 interview. The voices noticeably differ, and while the manerisms on '67 guy are similar, they are actaully totally off. In this video you can actually see the guy working on his 'impression'. It's hard work for him at this point and it shows. Look at the forced way he chews his bottom lip, for one example. Totally phoney. Also, if you look at his ear in the '67 interview, it looks fake. It just doesn't sit right, and the tone of it is all wrong. It's just bizarre. Also, look at Pauls smile in the '67 clip and how different he looks when he's smiling. This is something they were never able to replicate in the replacement and in many ways is the detail that proves the case. (apart from the totally different shaped skulls of course.)
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Post by Paul is alive on Jul 21, 2011 2:36:37 GMT -5
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Post by GN on Jul 21, 2011 16:24:15 GMT -5
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Post by 65if2007 on Jul 22, 2011 6:43:14 GMT -5
Well, you raise a good point. My brother died a little over a year ago and it was devastating. It will always be devastating. I couldn't imagine not displaying any grief or being able to go along with a substitution or displaying happiness in his presence. On the other hand, why didn't "Paul McCartney" attend his father's funeral? And then there's still the bridge of his nose...
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Post by Nobody really on Jul 23, 2011 19:10:17 GMT -5
official reason - Wings was on tour at time of Dad's death real reason - difficult relationship with woman Jim married after Paul's mother died. Paul never accepted her or Jim's 2nd family. All too typical. Son feels father betrayed mother.
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Post by 65if2007 on Jul 23, 2011 22:46:23 GMT -5
official reason - Wings was on tour at time of Dad's death real reason - difficult relationship with woman Jim married after Paul's mother died. Paul never accepted her or Jim's 2nd family. All too typical. Son feels father betrayed mother. In other words, the individual that we are talking about is a cold-assed MF and that's all there is to it. Well, maybe. His heart bleeds over a barnyard animal destined for your dinner table but not for his own father. It's why I have no trouble with the idea of bedeviling him with questions about his identity. Besides, there's still this:
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Post by Nobody really on Jul 24, 2011 0:17:08 GMT -5
Notoriously cold but not "dead" cold. Ha! There's a tape circulating of a business meeting in the 80's.
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Post by GN on Jul 24, 2011 3:29:17 GMT -5
official reason - Wings was on tour at time of Dad's death real reason - difficult relationship with woman Jim married after Paul's mother died. Paul never accepted her or Jim's 2nd family. All too typical. Son feels father betrayed mother. In other words, the individual that we are talking about is a cold-assed MF and that's all there is to it. Well, maybe. His heart bleeds over a barnyard animal destined for your dinner table but not for his own father. It's why I have no trouble with the idea of bedeviling him with questions about his identity. Besides, there's still this: ... and this:
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Post by 65if2007 on Jul 24, 2011 4:35:56 GMT -5
In other words, the individual that we are talking about is a cold-assed MF and that's all there is to it. Well, maybe. His heart bleeds over a barnyard animal destined for your dinner table but not for his own father. It's why I have no trouble with the idea of bedeviling him with questions about his identity. Besides, there's still this: ... and this: Yeah GN, but I'm sure that "Nobody really" can produce his own set of early and late pictures that he can argue convincingly show the same man at different ages. It's been done before. I lost interest a long time ago in sets of "before" and "after" pictures produced by partisans on either side -- none of whom are professionals in the field of facial identification -- because those sets of pictures cancel each other out. The magazine article interested me simply because it actually did produce expert opinion on the issue.
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Post by GN on Jul 24, 2011 5:37:07 GMT -5
... and this: Yeah GN, but I'm sure that "Nobody really" can produce his own set of early and late pictures that he can argue convincingly show the same man at different ages. It's been done before. I lost interest a long time ago in sets of "before" and "after" pictures produced by partisans on either side -- none of whom are professionals in the field of facial identification -- because those sets of pictures cancel each other out. The magazine article interested me simply because it actually did produce expert opinion on the issue. Thanks 65if2007 since that work just reproduce on paper what SunKing has already done on the net. They belong to the Prometeus team.
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Post by iameye on Jul 24, 2011 7:50:17 GMT -5
Prometheus team? Do you know the Fireman, GN? lol
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Post by iameye on Jul 24, 2011 8:27:06 GMT -5
There must be some kind of way out of here Said the joker to the thiefThere's too much confusion I can't get no relief Businessmen there - they drink my wine Plow men dig my earth None will level on the line Nobody of it is worth - Hey! No reason to get excited The thief he kindly spoke There are many here among us Who feel that life is but a joke but huh But you and I we've been through that And this is not our fate So let us not talk falsely now The hour's getting late - Hey! All along the watchtower Princess kept the view While all the women came and went Bare-foot servants too, but huh Outside in the cold distance A wild cat did growl Two riders were approachingAnd the wind began to howl - Mary! a special stadium
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Post by iameye on Jul 24, 2011 8:50:40 GMT -5
Team Fireman Wins! winner's circle
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Post by 65if2007 on Jul 24, 2011 11:48:12 GMT -5
Yeah GN, but I'm sure that "Nobody really" can produce his own set of early and late pictures that he can argue convincingly show the same man at different ages. It's been done before. I lost interest a long time ago in sets of "before" and "after" pictures produced by partisans on either side -- none of whom are professionals in the field of facial identification -- because those sets of pictures cancel each other out. The magazine article interested me simply because it actually did produce expert opinion on the issue. Thanks 65if2007 since that work just reproduce on paper what SunKing has already done on the net. They belong to the Prometeus team. Well, if the biometrics experts consulted for the Wired Italia article ever expressed the opinion that Brian Epstein was replaced by Don Knotts, they would lose all credibility in my eyes -- but, thankfully, they didn't do this.
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Post by Nobody really on Jul 24, 2011 17:11:08 GMT -5
My dead "cold" comment was a pun. As in cold to the touch. Get it? I like the board. It's interesting. I don't think Paul ever died but that's just my opinion. I have no interest in throwing up pictures of this and that or the other. I've seen ones where he looks different and ones where he looks the same. Whatever. I'm not invested in it either way but I'm not going to walk into someone's house and start throwing my weight around because that's rude so don't behave like I am. I have an open mind. That's why I even checked the board out in the first place. I saw a question about Paul's father's funeral and answered it to the best of my knowledge. Simple as that. Bye.
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Post by 65if2007 on Jul 26, 2011 14:28:22 GMT -5
My dead "cold" comment was a pun. As in cold to the touch. Get it? I like the board. It's interesting. I don't think Paul ever died but that's just my opinion. I have no interest in throwing up pictures of this and that or the other. I've seen ones where he looks different and ones where he looks the same. Whatever. I'm not invested in it either way but I'm not going to walk into someone's house and start throwing my weight around because that's rude so don't behave like I am. I have an open mind. That's why I even checked the board out in the first place. I saw a question about Paul's father's funeral and answered it to the best of my knowledge. Simple as that. Bye. I don't think that you have done anything for which you need to apologzie. I think that your point is well-taken. How indeed could McCartney's family so matter-of-factly -- and in the picture that you've submitted -- so cheerfully accept a substitution? I have an open mind about the subject, but what you have said is one of a number of things that -- at first blush, anyway -- seem just plain wrong with the idea that the original Paul McCartney died. And I think that talk about the so-called Illuminati is just so much chin music.
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Post by eyesbleed on Jul 26, 2011 16:44:21 GMT -5
Chin music.... hey that's a nice way of putting it ;D
The McCartney family were so happy to play along because they didn't loose anybody. In fact you'd think JPM had a lot more time to spend with family, not less. He wasn't in the Beatles spotlight any longer. So of course his family was happy with the arrangement.
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Post by 65if2007 on Jul 26, 2011 22:37:58 GMT -5
Chin music.... hey that's a nice way of putting it ;D The McCartney family were so happy to play along because they didn't loose anybody. In fact you'd think JPM had a lot more time to spend with family, not less. He wasn't in the Beatles spotlight any longer. So of course his family was happy with the arrangement. So where is he now?
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Post by ipuffin on Jul 27, 2011 5:00:28 GMT -5
Chin music.... hey that's a nice way of putting it ;D The McCartney family were so happy to play along because they didn't loose anybody. In fact you'd think JPM had a lot more time to spend with family, not less. He wasn't in the Beatles spotlight any longer. So of course his family was happy with the arrangement. So where is he now? ok, here's a non-occult option: what if...the whole PID thing is the Beatles having used doubles at the height of Beatlemania and Paul's DOUBLE died? There you have it. A theory that could explain everything. But the reason this board slips into the occult rabbit-whole time and again, is that there are FAR more FACTS leading to Paul's occult connections than to him being dead. I think the idea that his death may have been symbolic is something that many members have come to gradually accept... Also, I hope you all realize this, at some point HE accepted the hoax, then fell in love with it, and put "clues" of it every now and then - you can call this marketing, but I'm a bit more generous...I call it "Art", and I'm glad he did, because a LOT of his later work would be otherwise utterly unlistenable. now, back to the rabbit-whole...
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Post by iameye on Jul 27, 2011 6:00:27 GMT -5
I think the idea that his death may have been symbolic is something that many members have come to gradually accept...
really? so where is everybody?
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Post by P(D)enny La(i)ne on Jul 27, 2011 11:09:04 GMT -5
Outside in the cold distance A wild cat did growl Two riders were approachingAnd the wind began to howl - Mary! Let's up the ante a bit.
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