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Post by Will on Sept 24, 2015 18:24:44 GMT -5
blows my mind, fish delusions! Monday's child has learned to tie his bootlace......Tuesday afternoon is never ending(Click) ...Wednesday morning papers didn't come...Thursday night your stockings needed mending (Al Lopez resigns as manager of Chicago White Sox--November 11th 1965)?
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Post by Will on Sept 24, 2015 19:29:14 GMT -5
It was twenty years ago today The act you've known for all these years Sit back and let the evening go How do I feel by the end of the day Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly A little better all the time I finally heard I'm taking the time for a number of things Wednesday morning at five o'clock as the day begins She's leaving home after living alone for so many years Friday morning at nine o'clock she is far away Waiting to keep the appointment she made There will be a show tonight on trampoline Performs his feat on Saturday at Bishopsgate The band begins at ten to six Having been some days in preparation A splendid time is guaranteed for all And tonight Mr. Kite is topping the bill Never glimpse the truth-then it's far too late-when they pass away Many years from now If I'd been out till quarter to three Sunday mornings go for a ride When I'm sixty-four When it gets dark I tow your heart away Good morning, good morning After a while you start to smile now you feel cool People running round it's five o'clock. Everywhere in town is getting dark It's time for tea and meet the wife. Somebody needs to know the time, glad that I'm here We're sorry but it's time to go I read the news today oh boy I saw a film today oh boy And looking up I noticed I was late Made the bus in seconds flat--------- I like that northern thing very much, which is what we were, where we were from. I had the idea to be in a park and in front of us to have a huge floral clock. We were sitting around talking about it, “Why do they do a clock made out of flowers?” Very conceptual, it never moves, it just grows and time is therefore nonexistent, but the clock is growing and it was like, “Wooah! The frozen floral clock.”
So the second phase of the idea was to have these guys in their new identity, in their costumes, being presented with the Freedom of the City or a cup, by the Lord Mayor in all his regalia, and I thought of it as a town up north, standing on a little rostrum with a few dignitaries and the band, above a floral clock. We always liked to take those ordinary facts of northern working-class life, like the clock, and mystify them and glamorize them and make them into something more magical, more universal....
I did a lot of drawings of us being presented to the Lord Mayor, with lots of dignitaries and lots of friends of ours around, and it was to be us in front of a big northern floral clock, and we were to look like a brass band. That developed to be the Peter Blake cover....
So I took the little drawings of the floral clock and the Lord Mayor and all our heroes, which was like the end design, and we went to see Peter....
The idea did get a bit metamorphosed when Peter was brought in; they changed it in good ways. The clock became the sign of the Beatles in front of it, the floral clock metamorphosed into a flower bed....(Courtesy of Tafultong's blog) From November 8th 2007...It's Time. IIIX I think that it literally is Time. I don't know, you think maybe this might be sort of a secret?
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Post by B on Sept 25, 2015 13:14:49 GMT -5
blows my mind, fish delusions! Monday's child has learned to tie his bootlace...View Attachment...Tuesday afternoon is never ending(Click) View Attachment ...Wednesday morning papers didn't come...Thursday night your stockings needed mending (Al Lopez resigns as manager of Chicago White Sox--November 11th 1965)? View Attachmentawesome post
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Post by Will on Sept 26, 2015 12:23:32 GMT -5
Monday's child has learned to tie his bootlace......Tuesday afternoon is never ending(Click) ...Wednesday morning papers didn't come...Thursday night your stockings needed mending (Al Lopez resigns as manager of Chicago White Sox--November 11th 1965)? awesome post (It might be a secret )
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Post by Will on Sept 26, 2015 23:13:55 GMT -5
(Is there a secret? ) Let's see. Heather Mills said she had a box of evidence, that there was such a fear of something coming out. Apollo said the real answer was right in front of us, flowers in the dirt. Attachment DeletedRuss Gibb won't talk about what it is that he heard in England. xdell.blogspot.ca/2007/10/with-little-help-from-their-friends.htmlIAAP, regardless of whose payroll he was on and I think Redwel established that fairly clearly (and the part about organize Paul's secret certainly seems to imply that there's a, you know, secret), had a contrived RevelAtion (note the capital A) foiled by a cease and desist, which I don't think any of us really believes, but knowing at least "a" secret might be helpful if one were to organize it. And then there's Julian. "Wow... Snubbed at Macca’s wedding, snubbed at the anniversary of LOVE in Vegas! Snubbed at Macca’s wedding reception in NYC... Snubbed at George Harrison’s film premiere... What have I done to be ignored in such a way? I was not invited to ANY of these events... I thought we had a relationship ... Obviously not... Gimme some truth... Maybe now it’s time to tell the Truth...Suffice to say, yes we're all pursuing something real. ...by the way, certainly IAAP understood the Sept. 11 date structure argument, but the Beatles could use any date structure they wanted by right and the largest prospective clues audience was certainly in America, not to mention the inconvenient truth of Paul being quite alive and shiny on Sept. 13; plus (although someone could probably find a different word that could work) Lyonel Hearts just doesn't have the same ring to it. Attachments:
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Post by Will on Sept 27, 2015 14:12:53 GMT -5
Hidden in the yard underneath the wall buried deep below A Thousand Layers ...lay the answer to it all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 21:35:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 21:35:59 GMT -5
Hidden in the yard underneath the wall buried deep below A Thousand Layers ...lay the answer to it all.View Attachment lol
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Post by delysid on Oct 5, 2015 8:46:03 GMT -5
B, the mystery tramp link isn't working. B and iwilliam, there's a thread somewhere (maybe not this forum) that explains how when John's death was announced during a football game, the camera was zoomed in on a certain specific player that was somehow connected with John. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Is that the thread you tried to link to, B? Here's the announcement during the football game as kicker John Smith takes the field. Some highlights I was able to grab from a mystery tramp thread (that I was also allowed to edit?) Forgive me B, if this is the thread you tried to link to, and it worked for other people. December 8th 1941 is when the US entered WWII Operation 40 takes part in the Bay of Pigs invasion among their other follies. The Bay of Pigs invasion plan was presented to the group in charge of CIA covert operations on December 8th 1960. Now, you may notice that this date is exactly 20 years before John Lennon's death. Still about people though, right? After CIA agent Howard Hunt is identified as part of the Watergate operation, his wife dies in a plane crash, carrying over $10,000 on December 8th 1972. Again, the date John Lennon died on. Hotel California ends with "Relax said the nightman, we are programmed to receive, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave." Release date, December 8th 1976. Coincidence I'm sure... Then on December 8th 1980 who is the nightman at the Dakota? Oh look, Jose Perdomo from Operation 40. Between the Hiroshima bomb and John Lennon's death was 2 sets of exactly 922 weeks, to the day. Precisely 922 weeks to the day after the bomb was dropped, on April 8th 1963, Julian Lennon was born. Then, when Julian was exactly 922 weeks old, again to the day, John Lennon was assassinated. Hold that line, block that kick. The announcement of John Lennon's death on Monday Night Football on December 8th 1980 by Howard Cosell, delivered as New England was lining up to kick a field goal with :03 seconds remaining. Note the raised hands of the Patriots as Cosell speaks, mimicking the hand over Paul's head as well as the nod of John Smith to coincide with Dead on Arrival. With all of the effort that has been put into seeing what happened with Paul, you don't suppose that maybe part of the point was to not see what happened with John? Of course most of us know that the picture below, with John selling tickets, contains the initials of Mark David Chapman and was part of Magical Mystery Tour, which was released exactly 13 years before John's death on December 8th 1967. The scene itself however was shot on September 22nd, it was shot on 9/22. Ticket to Ride itself is significant as well, its the song buried underneath the heartbeat at the end of Dark Side of the Moon... Ironically, on Julian's 3rd birthday the April 8th 1966 issue of Time was the infamous Is God dead issue. On page 8 of the story www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,835309-8,00.html is a reference to a mock obituary for God written by an Atlanta based periodical called Motive, that lists God's date of death as November 9th of all dates. This also was the issue being read in the doctor's office by Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby. Nietzsche referred to God is dead for the first time I believe in the Gay Science in 1882. Between the first Atomic bomb at Hiroshima and John Lennon's death was exactly 1844 weeks; or two sets of exactly 922 weeks. Exactly between those two sets of 922 weeks, to the day, his son was born. You'd have to reason out why this would be, but interestingly enough John later marries a Japanese woman, was ultimately shot by someone living in Hawaii who bought his gun from a dealer named Ono on the same date the US declared war after Pearl Harbor and was taken to Roosevelt Hospital. John for a John, Johnajeams, led it be. -- Finnegan's Wake in 1939 Joyce wrote Finnegan's Wake over a 17-year-span, concurrent with Hitler's rise to power and did so deliberately courting random input. The Illuminatus Trilogy found the Atomic Formula in Finnegan's Wake, released 3 years before the formula was discovered. willemaus.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/922-the-conspiracy/Here's a link to a TKIN thread that seems to mirror the mystery tramp one: 60if.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=lennon&action=print&thread=3365All of this begins to slowly change however when John meets Yoko on, of course, November 9th 1966. And this is where the two paths cross. One is what was actually intended with the One One One X drum clue and the other is that John's life path was profoundly altered by meeting Yoko Ono on the date pointed to on the drum. Of course it should be understood that at the point that Sgt. Pepper was released, the meaning of the drum clue as it related to John's path could not yet have been known...and I will reiterate what is in the other thread. For the drum clue to have been planned at all means that the Lonely Hearts name must have been concocted with a drum clue in mind right from the very beginning. Ordinal position of the letters L and H is 12 and 8. Which by the way also happens to be December 8th. JFK was killed on November 22nd 1963, exactly 922 days before June 1st 1966 (6/66). Besides the Beatles 2nd LP and the first broadcast of Beatlemania in the US which both also happened on November 22nd 1963, two other prominent authors died. CS Lewis and Aldous Huxley both died on November 22nd 1963. Again, L and H... This starts the United States down a road towards the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which rather incredibly happens to a US Naval Fleet led by Jim Morrison's father and leads to the perfect set of conditions to create the sixties. Jim Morrison in fact was born on December 8th... Rosemary's Baby: Release date of Ira Levin's book, March 12th 1967. As we know by now, Charles Manson's group at random killed the wife of Roman Polanski and the next night killed a woman named Rosemary. Mark David Chapman then realizes all of this standing in front of the Dakota, where the movie was filmed, and uses this in part as his rationale for following through on his assassination of John Lennon who happens to live in the building where the movie was made. Of course, as he ruminates about this, Mia Farrow happens to walk right past him on her way to Central Park. Prominent characters in the book are Minnie Castevet (MC) and her husband Roman, the key characters in fostering a demonic conspiracy. Pg. 156 "I got the shirt that was in the New Yorker", he said going to the bedroom. "Hey" he called, "On a Clear Day and Skyscraper are both closing". A bit 9/11'ish, no? Terry Gionoffrio dies on September 18th 1965 in the book. Rosemary's encounter with Satan then takes place on October 4th 1965. These dates may be recognized as the dates of deaths in 1970 of both Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin. Rosemary later, when trying to piece together the conspiracy against her, remembers back to Roman having lunch with Donald Baumgart, congratulating him on getting the big part that Guy wanted. She calls Baumgart who confirms that they had drinks one afternoon before Baumgart suddenly went blind, also acknowledging that they strangely exchanged each other's ties that Wednesday afternoon, which Rosemary now understands was necessary to have a personal item of Donald's to perform a spell on Donald in order for Guy to receive the big part. This particular Wednesday was September 22nd 1965 (9/22)...looking glass ties. When it's discovered that Rosemary is indeed pregnant, they celebrate with a bottle of Saint Julian... It's not quite so clear exactly what date Rosemary discovers Adrian (Andrew John), but it is most certainly right at the end of July '66, which in fact mirrors more popular than Jesus being published and Bob Dylan's accident. Quoting this as a bump to a very excellent post! As ever, Linus' posts take time to work through because of the sheer info-density. PROPS!
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Post by delysid on Oct 5, 2015 9:12:14 GMT -5
George Martian - the Barber Brian Epstein - the Banker John Lennon - the Fireman Grace Kelly - the Nurse the banker and the barber share the first verse and the fireman and the nurse share the second verse. the third verse is why i speculate in penny lane the fireman is john lennon. at this point paul has died and is by a garden with pennies over his eyes. time is blurring. I can't remember which book I transcribed this from, but I loved the way he wrote it, I always felt the commonly-perceived poppy simplicity of this song overshadowed it's innovative complexities as well as it's inner melancholy and strangeness. I think the book was Tell Me Why by Tim Riley With its double diminutive name, Penny Lane sounds like a place out of everyone’s childhood, populated by the sort of archetypal adults – the barber, the banker, the fireman – one finds in picture books. Penny Lane distills the spirit of the time perfectly with its vision of blue suburban skies and boundless confident vigor. And by capturing the prevailing practice of old customs being refreshed through and remade through the creative energy of the young & classless. Penny Lane is something much more complex than a pleasant expression of musical nostalgia: its real subject is the distinction between a place as it exists in the glow of memory and a place as it really exists. The third verse begins with the image of the fireman and his hour-glass. Faintly surreal, faintly anachronistic, the hour-glass evokes the ‘sands of time’, and when the minor chord sounds beneath the line, embellished by a pair of drooping flutes, something about this fireman seems inexpressibly sad. But then the fireman rings his bell as if to dispel the gloom - and the piccolo trumpet, which accompanies the childlike tapestry of the song, rings out impossibly high and bright, rippling over the chords of the verse in a neo-baroque pastiche of every fanfare ever blown. In the refrain that follows this magical interlude, the Beatles test the strength of its spell by substituting the line “the blues suburban skies” with a pair of Liverpudlian indelicacies, “four of fish and finger pies”, which skewers the innocence of the song. A fictional character who ponders the way that life seems to imitate art, the Pirandellian nurse in the fourth verse is one of the Beatles’ most remarkable creations. Young and pretty and smartly dressed, she enters the song laden with historical baggage, holding a tray of the red-paper poppies that mark the annual observation of Britain’s Rememberance Day. Yet she carries this burden with an air if girlish distraction that makes the barber, the banker and the fireman seem frozen in their roles. Compared with them, she’s so modern in her self-consciousness, imaging herself as an actress in the theatre –of-the-roundabout at Penny Lane. Which only adds to the startling impact of Paul’s pronouncement that “she is anyway” There is a world of sensibility wrapped up in that line, which is left to hover between perfect wisdom and perfect whimsy as the action returns to the barbershop for the tiny anti-climax – the barber working, the banker waiting, the fireman rushing in – that passes for a denouement in the diminutive world of the song. Leading Paul to reaffirm that amidst the idyllic tone of this scene lies something… “very strange!” What’s truly strange, of course, is the weather in this song: pouring rain in the verses, blue skies in the refrain. Nostalgia by definition improves upon the past, but it isn’t just the singer who’s got the forecast wrong. The banker is so oblivious to the elements that he doesn’t bother to wear an overcoat. And the fireman reacts to the downpour as if the sky were falling down. Add to them the image of the pretty nurse and her poppies, and the blue skies of Penny Lane remembered begin to conform to the twentieth-century Britain’s most poignant meteorological cliché. They are drawn from the same inexhaustible Edwardian high-pressure system that supplied the perfect weather for a nostalgic vision of the past that memorialized by the carnage of the Great War, retained its hold on the country’s historical imagination for generations to come. “In those days it seemed the sun would always shine”, recalls one of the characters in Alan Bennet’s elegiac stage play Forty Years On. “Then in 1914 it begins to rain and all through the war and after it never stops… The war and everything that comes after: grey and wet and misty and nasty.” In an intuitive act of genius that could never have been conceptualized, the Beatles conjured an entire world of meaning in this ostensibly simple, carefree song. The barber, the banker and the fireman of Penny Lane are figures in a dream – an orderly, imperial dream of sunny skies and clean machines and well-trimmed head that generations of oblivious Englishmen had once pursued to the very ends of the earth, back in a time when poppies were simply flowers, not symbols of national mourning. In Penny Lane it’s the grown-ups who are living a fiction, just as the nurse suspects, and it’s only the little children, laughing behind the banker’s back, who see that the rain is pouring down. Yet the consummate honesty of the song lies with Paul’s unwillingness to exempt himself from any of this. While the satirist in him is capable of seeing the dream for what it is and skewering it mercilessly, the sentimentalist in him continues to believe in the stately vision of those blue suburban skies. Like the nurse, he is, anyway. As he sings the phrase “Penny Lane” near the end, the key of the refrain modulates from A to b major, the key of the verse. The effect is magical, like that of a person stepping into a photograph. The key shift towards the end of the song brings the two musical worlds together, the past is brought to life by the present, much like in In My Life. (sorry to get off topic, iwilliam) Double-bump for Linus as this is an extraordinarily penetrating analysis (and great review) of Penny Lane, the song which turned me on to the band when a friend played his brother's Blue Album in my house when I was about 7. I experienced nostalgia for the first time while listening to it, a nostalgia for something I didn't remember! Penny Lane itself perfectly 'explains' the appeal of PID, which is somewhat an awareness of and quest for explanation of the 'very strange' that lies in the banal when one views it with a twinkle in the eye. While most archetypal psychedelia is of I Am The Walrus vintage, dense and by turns euphoric and disturbing richness, like Alice in Wonderland, Paul's Penny Lane version evokes an underying sparkle, some unthreatening captivating strangeness, a Magritte-like sense of paradox which is visible and invisible at the same time. It's not quite euphoric but certainly not frightening. 'Moderation m'lad' as Jim Mac would have it. I think it's the true smoking gun of 'Paul Is Dead'. Some in-joke taken up by Paul to the eventual annoyance of the others, is situated right here. Not in Manson and iamaphoney but RIGHT HERE. PS- As if to reflect my feeling above, just after writing it, I happened to check the entry for Penny Lane in Iain Macdonald's Revolution in the Head book and for the first time, I think, read the final footnote in which he established, in private conversation with Barry Miles, that McCartney's first acid trip was likely November 1966 in the company of Tara Browne. He checked with Miles because he suspects Penny Lane is Paul's 'acid song'. But to a PIDlet, of course, November 1966 has more significance as the subject of extensive speculations about Paul's uncharacteristic media invisibility at the time. It suddenly seems as obvious as ever that it was all about personal expansion, scheming, LSD research and response to it, his very own revolution in the head.
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Post by superman on Oct 12, 2015 2:51:59 GMT -5
It was twenty years ago today The act you've known for all these years Sit back and let the evening go How do I feel by the end of the day Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly A little better all the time I finally heard I'm taking the time for a number of things Wednesday morning at five o'clock as the day begins She's leaving home after living alone for so many years Friday morning at nine o'clock she is far away Waiting to keep the appointment she made There will be a show tonight on trampoline Performs his feat on Saturday at Bishopsgate The band begins at ten to six Having been some days in preparation A splendid time is guaranteed for all And tonight Mr. Kite is topping the bill Never glimpse the truth-then it's far too late-when they pass away Many years from now If I'd been out till quarter to three Sunday mornings go for a ride When I'm sixty-four When it gets dark I tow your heart away Good morning, good morning After a while you start to smile now you feel cool People running round it's five o'clock. Everywhere in town is getting dark It's time for tea and meet the wife. Somebody needs to know the time, glad that I'm here We're sorry but it's time to go I read the news today oh boy I saw a film today oh boy And looking up I noticed I was late Made the bus in seconds flat--------- I like that northern thing very much, which is what we were, where we were from. I had the idea to be in a park and in front of us to have a huge floral clock. We were sitting around talking about it, “Why do they do a clock made out of flowers?” Very conceptual, it never moves, it just grows and time is therefore nonexistent, but the clock is growing and it was like, “Wooah! The frozen floral clock.”
So the second phase of the idea was to have these guys in their new identity, in their costumes, being presented with the Freedom of the City or a cup, by the Lord Mayor in all his regalia, and I thought of it as a town up north, standing on a little rostrum with a few dignitaries and the band, above a floral clock. We always liked to take those ordinary facts of northern working-class life, like the clock, and mystify them and glamorize them and make them into something more magical, more universal....
I did a lot of drawings of us being presented to the Lord Mayor, with lots of dignitaries and lots of friends of ours around, and it was to be us in front of a big northern floral clock, and we were to look like a brass band. That developed to be the Peter Blake cover....
So I took the little drawings of the floral clock and the Lord Mayor and all our heroes, which was like the end design, and we went to see Peter....
The idea did get a bit metamorphosed when Peter was brought in; they changed it in good ways. The clock became the sign of the Beatles in front of it, the floral clock metamorphosed into a flower bed....(Courtesy of Tafultong's blog) From November 8th 2007...It's Time. IIIX I think that it literally is Time. I don't know, you think maybe this might be sort of a secret? Well these are the times...
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Post by Will on Oct 13, 2015 13:49:43 GMT -5
Beep Beep Hidden in the yard underneath the wall buried deep below A Thousand Layers ...lay the answer to it all.
Did that do it? Can anything do it? Is there an answer? Lets bring Apollo back into this for a second and compare what he said in 2003 to Paul's lyrics in House of Wax. The story unfolds before your eyes and ears for those that connect the dots. Many of you see things that are not there. Much energy spent on ghosts that fail to materialize. Questions Asked That Lay unanswered which will add a crucial piece of the puzzle. Too many people doing too many things to notice the key that lies at your feet. Get back to the basics. Tread old ground, for there are truly flowers in the dirt. ApolloApollo not only said virtually the same thing as Paul, he also used ATL's to say it. Need More? Pardon the intrusion...
Keeping in mind the somewhat sinister origins of many of the "Mother Goose" nursery rhymes, you may find the following read interesting enough to reconsider the song "Cry Baby Cry."
When John was interveiwed for Playboy magazine, and giving insights to some of better works stated that the song was "rubbish" and not one of his.
Yet, he repeats the theme for the song "Cleanup Time" on Double Fantasy" almost word for word.
He must not of hated it THAT much.
Here is how "coded messages" were being sent via harmless "nursery rhymes."
www.snopes.com/lost/sixpence.htm
ApolloThe duchess of Kircaldy always smiling And arriving late for tea The duke was having problems With a message At The Local bird and beeNot enough? If I have made your investigations harder by showing you new "flowers in the dirt", I have done my job. You will soon discover the answers you seek to questions not yet asked. If you take my words and discredit the messenger, so be it. I am not here to supply you with answers. That is your job. I will however assist in any form that I am at liberty to share with you. "What did you see while you were there? Nothing that doesn't show."
ApolloMore? Apollo also claimed that the lyrics to Klaatu's first LP held clues and then for some reason threw in that there was also one particular clue on the door of Ringo's Rotogravure that was all anyone needed. Post by Apollo C. Vermouth on Aug 31, 2003 at 12:41am A fine job, indeed. The real test comes once the music starts. The cover clues leave no doubt as to "who" is plucking the strings.
The upper corners of the cover depict a familiar beast. What do you make of the bottom ones?
Keep searching the clues on the door. One in particular is all you need.
ApolloHere is a post from this forum about Ringo's quote about Rotogravure and the door. From a press conference in Amsterdam, 1976:
Question: There is a photo of the front door of Apple on the back of the cover, where did you get it?
Ringo: Neil Aspinall took it and sent us one each an I thought, "I'm gonna put it on the back of the album." It's a front door, but it's a back door too. It's got all these names scrawled on it from Finland. That's why you're getting a magnifying glass with the album, so you can read it all. And I thought it would be a nice bit of fun, especially for those who actually wrote on it. It used to be so smart, with a doorman and a pretty letterbox, and now it's just...yeah!
I wonder if there's something being telegraphed with the "names from Finland" remark?
One more thing, his "It's a back door too" remark.. From a Wiki entry:
A backdoor in a computer system (or cryptosystem or algorithm) is a method of bypassing normal authentication or securing remote access to a computer, while attempting to remain hidden from casual inspection.
In other words, a way of gaining access (to a computer's secrets) while remaining undetected, and not using the normal means of access. So Ringo singles out Finland. So there's the ATL in Rotogravure (Time was printed using Rotogravure by the way, I'm quite certain of this because I was the final person to ever work in the complex where it was manufactured) But what about Klaatu and 3:47EST A True Life hero
Trek About The Latitudes?
I Am The Little neutrinoYeah, its in 3 different songs. But what about Sgt. Pepper itself? Well, Beacon (Redwel) and I talked at MysteryTramp back when he released Sgt. Pepper Code that Within You Without You really felt like a key to Sgt. Pepper, and the preachy aspect of the song just didn't fit with the rest of the album, not to mention the laugh at the end. What we hit on at the time, and one of the original reasons I felt the ATL might have some significance was in this line. We were talking About The Space between us all. Apollo also made mention at one point that you needed to understand the length, width, and depth of what you wished to uncover. Well, to me, how I took about the space between us all is that the answer layed in the space within the 4 Beatles, so if you drew a line straight down from the outside edge of John and then the outside edge of George, the answer was between those two lines; which of course both the drum and the ATL fall between those two lines (plus the more obvious doll pointing at those letters). And in fact, if you took About The Space, all 3 of those letters are in the word Beatles and are the number 3,4,7 letters. 3:47. I'm the urban spaceman, baby; here comes the twist-- I don't exist produced by Apollo C Vermouth. Urban--of, relating to, or designating a city or town. Now, lets go down to the other instance of We Were Talking- We were talking About The Love that's gone so coldI know there's more and it goes deeper from here, people who talk about enlightenment and their LSD use and mind expansion certainly aren't wrong, but I believe this is the actual Point Of Entry that Apollo talked about. Going home now...
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Post by B on Oct 13, 2015 16:49:45 GMT -5
just muddying the waters
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Art, Time, Lucy lol
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Post by beacon on Oct 16, 2015 6:31:13 GMT -5
Pepper time: the band begins at ten to six It is difficult to know where to start with these awesome posts; I guess with some preliminary thoughts: I love the fact that you have made something from the Ringo Rotogravure clue; it has bugged me for years that I couldn’t find anything. Let’s stick with the ‘backdoor’ theme. The lyrics from ‘She’s Leaving Home’, which begin with “Wednesday morning at five o’clock…” another time reference, also contain the line “quietly turning the backdoor key.” Is the RAOB character holding a key? issuu.com/redweltrabant/docs/the_sgt_pepper_code/c/sc4yhwv If Lewis Carroll is the key to the temple door then what is at the back of the door (Dors) is the 'door keeper'. The Beatles door keeper was Neil Aspinall, however, originally Apollo – the urban spaceman - was Paul. Diana Dors, like the waxwork Beatles, came from Madame Tussauds, which is, of course, a House of Wax. Madame Tussauds in London also houses the planetarium and its domed roof features a planetary symbol that brings to mind the Rugby trophy featured on the Pepper cover. It is located on the Marylebone Road which is very close to where Paul lived when he resided with the Asher’s on Wimpole Street. Madame Tussaud was experienced at making death masks. Hidden in the yard underneath the wall buried deep below A Thousand Layers...lay the answer to it all.This is just pure stream of consciousness, random thought stuff but, my first thought when I read Yard, was Scotland Yard; home of the Metropolitan Police (Robert Peel – founder of the Met – appears on the Pepper cover) and somewhere that secrets may be stored. The original home was called Great Scotland Yard where, buried deep below, is an unfinished, or abandoned, tunnel. From Wiki; Great Scotland Yard is best known as the location of the rear entrance to the original headquarters of the Metropolitan Police Service of London. It is a back door! The duchess of Kircaldy always smiling And arriving late for tea The duke was having problems With a message At The Local bird and beeKirkcaldy is in Scotland. This site tells an interesting tale about the origin of the lyrics; John Lennon is said to have named the imaginary “Duchess of Kirkcaldy” from the Beatles Song ‘Cry, Baby Cry’ after the wife of the concert organiser.
He was rumoured to have visited Fife on several occasions to stay with the woman, whose name is not known.Not quite sure where that gets us but the concert was in 1963. Maybe it is a reference to someone who knows the truth? However, the lyric "It's time for tea and Meet the Wife", which links both tea and time, comes from another Pepper song, ‘Good morning, good morning’. Alternatively, back door could refer to the back cover of Pepper and tea time could be another Alice in Wonderland clue: Chapter Seven – A Mad Tea-PartyAlice finds the March Hare, the Hatter, and the Dormouse sitting all together at one end of a large table. The Dormouse sits between the other two, fast asleep. They are disagreeable from the start, and Alice's conversation with them is confusing even by Wonderland standards. They contradict Alice at every turn, correcting her with confusing arguments that have their own strange logic. Much of the conversation is about time. The Hatter's watch, which only tells the day of the month, is broken. The Hatter also tells Alice that Time (which he talks about as if it were a person) stopped working for him about a month ago, when the Queen of Hearts accused the Hatter of murdering the time. Since then, it's always been six o'clock, which is why they sit at tea all the time. All the places at the table are set, because they don't have time to do the dishes. When they want a clean plate, they just move to another spot.
The Dormouse begins to tell a strange story about three sisters who live in a well; Alice's questions and contradictions anger the Dormouse, and the Hatter and March Hare grow increasingly rude to her. Finally, Alice leaves, disgusted, turning around as she goes to see the Hatter and the Hare trying to stuff the Dormouse into a pot of tea.
Alice wanders in the woods until she finds a tree with a door in it. She goes inside, and finds herself in the long hallway again. This time, she's prepared: she takes the key from the table and unlocks the door to the garden. She then eats just enough mushroom to step through the door, and she finds herself in the lovely garden.The characters give Alice many riddles and stories, including the famous 'Why is a raven like a writing desk?'. Could this be a Poe clue? This photo implies that Poe was the first character set-up; therefore implying he is central. The Mad tea party is also reminiscent of the 1968 Mad day out photo shoot which culminated at Paul’s house with a shot of Paul’s domed meditation centre in his garden; the same garden that contains numerous Alice in Wonderland figurines. On the back cover whose back do we see? Paul’s. Overlaid are the lyrics to ‘Within you, without you’, which as Fishdelusions said; really felt like a key to Sgt. Pepper. In the Sgt Pepper Code I speculate that the lyrics to this song contain what I call ‘The Y Code’; issuu.com/redweltrabant/docs/the_sgt_pepper_code/c/sc4wthp which emanate again from the lyrics to ‘She’s leaving home’. To reveal the code we must examine the lyrics to the song ‘She's Leaving Home’.
Firstly, take a pencil and paper and, starting at the beginning of the song lyrics, search for the letter Y. If you then go back three letters from each Y, and jot down the letter, you will reveal a hidden code.
Example: "Wedne(s)daY morning at five o'clock as th(e) daY begins. Sile(n)tlY closing her bedroom door. Leaving the note that she hoped woul(d) saY more. She goes downstairs to the kitchen clutching her handkerchief. Qui(e)tlY turning the backdoor(r) keY".Applying this code reveals the phrase: SENDER MARY, which is pretty ambiguous except perhaps it points back to Marie Magdalene Dietrich. Marie being Mary and Dietrich being German for skeleton key. Just random thoughts though, need more time to consider all of this.
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Post by Will on Oct 16, 2015 11:07:35 GMT -5
The lyrics from ‘She’s Leaving Home’, which begin with “Wednesday morning at five o’clock…” another time reference, also contain the line “quietly turning the backdoor key.” Is the RAOB character holding a key? Take the right hand road and go where the Buffalo roam.More to come...
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Post by Will on Oct 17, 2015 3:31:22 GMT -5
From earlier in the thread: Ambush
The lamp that lights the way Is a light from yesterday. The drum which leads the way Is a sound from yesterday
Ask The Law. If Apollo knew, then IAAP probably knows too. In fact maybe in throwing in John's quip that Paul is God and we're all just layin' around, they actually revealed a bit more than what they had let on in 2012. The Run Devil Run Store is on Broad Street in Atlanta. Can't really blame Paul, coming on the heels of Linda's death and at this point he was with Heather, who had been hit by a police motorcycle and lost her leg at a London Crosswalk on August 8th 1993. Yeah, August 8th. Hidden in the yard underneath the wall buried deep below AThousand Layers ... lay the answer to it all. The story unfolds before your eyes and ears for those that connect the dots. Many of you see things that are not there. Much energy spent on ghosts that fail to materialize. Questions Asked That Lay unanswered which will add a crucial piece of the puzzle. Too many people doing too many things to notice the key th at lies at your feet. Get back to the basics. Tread old ground, for there are truly Flowers In The Dirt.
The duchess of Kircaldy always smiling And arriving late for tea The duke was having problems With a message At The Local bird and bee. Apollo If I have made your investigations harder by showing you new "flowers in the dirt", I have done my job. You will soon discover the answers you seek to questions not yet asked. If you take my words and discredit the messenger, so be it. I am not here to supply you with answers. That is your job. I will however assist in any form that I am at liberty to share with you. "What did you see while you were there? Nothing that doesn't show." Apollo A True Life hero Trek About The Latitudes? I Am The Little neutrino We were talking About The Love that's gone so cold (a line starting on Paul's backside by the way, a backdoor if you will) That would seem to be a fairly healthy starting point with which to assert that The Answer seems to be the Is God Dead issue of Time on April 8th 1966, Julian Lennon's 3rd birthday, and the Atlanta based obituary for God in that issue dated November 9th 1965. And from there, we would be left to extrapolate the rest...although certainly there are many more clues that help tell the story once you go down that rabbit hole. Does this crowd really need to be told why this would be? Probably not, because although many apply clues to Paul is Dead, and rightfully so as he absolutely looks and acts differently after the fall of '66, a number of people have been going after these answers for years now. Crowley, LSD, mind expansion, various occultic theories, etc...see in my mind I don't think the Beatles were evil, even though the tug over who The Walrus was kind of feeds into an idea that someone was calling oysters (kids) out of the ocean and then somehow ate them (San Francisco); but it would seem to me that this is primarily about freedom, and yeah quite possibly The Beatles were a little bit hacked off at those who turned on them in August of '66 and sought to at the very least, correct that situation. The young people burning the records were sitting in Church every Sunday while their football teams were still All-White? No way in hell in my view were the Beatles going to just let that go. And quite possibly too, there was more than a little fear that the Day The Music Died, previously stated as Elvis (Army), Little Richard (God), Jerry Lee Lewis (cousin), Chuck Berry (underage girl), Buddy Holly (plane crash), Eddie Cochran (car crash), etc...was a case of the fix being in and could it all happen again with what the Beatles faced that summer (Philippines, Record burnings, KKK threats and the Memphis Cherry Bomb scare) coupled with Dylan's accident happening the same day as Datebook publishing the Lennon interview. In fact, this whole thing sounds a bit like something Don McLean cooked up, or maybe even heard somewhere. A long, long time ago
The Marching Band refused to yield Do you recall what was revealed
We were talking about the space between us all. I think the Wall is the people on Sgt. Pepper's cover, the Yard is the grave and hidden in plain sight, is the ATL that's been right in front of all of us all along, the one a doll is pointing at. But like everything with the Beatles, double, even triple entendre's abound. The story continues...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 8:53:39 GMT -5
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Post by maclen on Oct 17, 2015 11:37:02 GMT -5
thread seems harmless enough, fun and games even. but a couple questions; why did sergeant peppers have a military theme and why weren't the beatles' real influences on the cover. to whit; no chuck, no little richard, and no elvis. where are the people the beatles always said were their inspirations. hell, where are the shirelles. short answer is the beatles lost control of their image after pwr
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Post by hotman637 on Oct 17, 2015 11:48:42 GMT -5
thread seems harmless enough, fun and games even. but a couple questions; why did sergeant peppers have a military theme and why weren't the beatles' real influences on the cover. to whit; no chuck, no little richard, and no elvis. where are the the people the beatles always said were their inspirations. hell, where are the shirelles. short answer is the beatles lost control of their image after pwr Great point! In other words they went from a great rock & roll band to a propaganda machine! That is what so annoying about MacFake and "MacFingo". I love that video on Jimmy Kimmel 's show where he calls MacFake " the best Paul McCartney imitator ever!"
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Post by maclen on Oct 17, 2015 12:13:17 GMT -5
thread seems harmless enough, fun and games even. but a couple questions; why did sergeant peppers have a military theme and why weren't the beatles' real influences on the cover. to whit; no chuck, no little richard, and no elvis. where are the the people the beatles always said were their inspirations. hell, where are the shirelles. short answer is the beatles lost control of their image after pwr Great point! In other words they went from a great rock & roll band to a propaganda machine! That is what so annoying about MacFake and "MacFingo". I love that video on Jimmy Kimmel 's show where he calls MacFake " the best Paul McCartney imitator ever!" thanks, man. there are days i'd like seeing the esotericists marched off a plank. sorry, esotericists, i didn't mean it, but actually
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Post by Will on Oct 17, 2015 13:33:18 GMT -5
Let's Try Again...
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Post by Will on Oct 17, 2015 13:38:21 GMT -5
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