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Aug 1, 2006 14:16:14 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 1, 2006 14:16:14 GMT -5
the same thing is happening here (Paul's ears are higher) I thought you guys believed that "Faul's" ears are higher?
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Aug 1, 2006 16:13:10 GMT -5
Post by DarkHorse on Aug 1, 2006 16:13:10 GMT -5
the same thing is happening here (Paul's ears are higher) I thought you guys believed that "Faul's" ears are higher? The pic of Paul is taken from a higher angle where the Bill pic is taken from a lower angle. And if the ears were matched up, then nothing else would match up, because they are two different men.
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Aug 1, 2006 16:35:53 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 1, 2006 16:35:53 GMT -5
I thought you guys believed that "Faul's" ears are higher? The pic of Paul is taken from a higher angle where the Bill pic is taken from a lower angle. And if the ears were matched up, then nothing else would match up, because they are two different men. You're not backing yourself up.
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Aug 1, 2006 17:14:59 GMT -5
Post by DarkHorse on Aug 1, 2006 17:14:59 GMT -5
The pic of Paul is taken from a higher angle where the Bill pic is taken from a lower angle. And if the ears were matched up, then nothing else would match up, because they are two different men. You're not backing yourself up. What are you talking about?
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Aug 1, 2006 18:12:54 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 1, 2006 18:12:54 GMT -5
You're not backing yourself up. What are you talking about? ^ That.
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Aug 1, 2006 19:22:06 GMT -5
Post by il ras on Aug 1, 2006 19:22:06 GMT -5
Different shaped chins. Mouth positions change (hold your mouse pointer over the top lip). Same also leaving the mouse pointer on the extreme left of his right eye (our left). It doesn't match even if the sides of the eyes next to the nose both match
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Aug 1, 2006 23:05:00 GMT -5
Post by atd on Aug 1, 2006 23:05:00 GMT -5
Khan has a penchant for matching up lens distorted pictures of Paul with the Pepper gatefold photo... Eyesbleed, I understand your position on fades (animated compares ). Seeing pictures side by side is enough for me as I've been able to distinguish between the two men easily for quite some time now. However, putting two pictures side by side is not really "proof" as such. Overlaying them and fading between them gives me an additional dimension of analysis, hard proof if you will. All animated compares require, as do any pictures of JPM/Faul , a critical eye...For instance, lens distortion could throw a person for a loop if they didn't know about it and what it does to images of the human face. Animated compares are useful, but only if the viewer is willing to put the time in to understand them and their limits.
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Aug 1, 2006 23:17:50 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 1, 2006 23:17:50 GMT -5
Khan has a penchant for matching up lens distorted pictures of Paul with the Pepper gatefold photo... The ears actually don't match up in that comp because of the camera distortion. BTW, the second pic in the fade matches even better with the Pepper pic.
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Aug 2, 2006 7:19:46 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Aug 2, 2006 7:19:46 GMT -5
Eyesbleed, I understand your position on fades (animated compares ). Seeing pictures side by side is enough for me as I've been able to distinguish between the two men easily for quite some time now. However, putting two pictures side by side is not really "proof" as such. Overlaying them and fading between them gives me an additional dimension of analysis, hard proof if you will. All animated compares require, as do any pictures of JPM/Faul , a critical eye...For instance, lens distortion could throw a person for a loop if they didn't know about it and what it does to images of the human face. Animated compares are useful, but only if the viewer is willing to put the time in to understand them and their limits. Well that's an excellent way to explain it atd. For obvious reasons we quit makin' PWR fades a long time ago, but the funhouse crew must be missin' those coz now they're makin' PWR fades for us... which is an interesting turn. But really..... if those guys can't even admit that somethin' suspicious was goin' on back then & some pics cannot be explained away as bein JPM.... then they're not worth the time it takes to come up with such a thought out intelligent response.
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Aug 2, 2006 10:05:44 GMT -5
Post by KHAN on Aug 2, 2006 10:05:44 GMT -5
Khan has a penchant for matching up lens distorted pictures of Paul with the Pepper gatefold photo... From the master of photographic analysis who brought us: [img src=" img470.imageshack.us/img470/7122/atdmyopiamj4.jpg"][/img] lol I don't pretend to be an expert in this. You should stop pretending. ;D
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Aug 2, 2006 10:13:23 GMT -5
Post by KHAN on Aug 2, 2006 10:13:23 GMT -5
D'oh. (Here is the mighty atd's terribly stretched pic that should have been in the tags above. Compared to an actual LIB frame.
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Aug 2, 2006 10:14:43 GMT -5
Post by Paul Bearer on Aug 2, 2006 10:14:43 GMT -5
Another interesting kind of fade I've seen only occasionally is after inversing the colour of the pictures. THAT shows the differences/matches quite well.
Someone want to try that with some of the above?
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Aug 2, 2006 10:22:26 GMT -5
Post by KHAN on Aug 2, 2006 10:22:26 GMT -5
I would like to thank atd for pointing this out. The screen grab from Athology 1 is obviously flawed.
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Aug 2, 2006 15:11:37 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Aug 2, 2006 15:11:37 GMT -5
For obvious reasons we quit makin' PWR fades a long time ago, but the funhouse crew must be missin' those coz now they're makin' PWR fades for us...
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Aug 2, 2006 15:51:20 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 2, 2006 15:51:20 GMT -5
For obvious reasons we quit makin' PWR fades a long time ago, but the funhouse crew must be missin' those coz now they're makin' PWR fades for us... It's all a matter of perception. Our PIA fade can be your PID fade, or vice-versa.
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Aug 2, 2006 16:10:52 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Aug 2, 2006 16:10:52 GMT -5
....so doesn't that make'em totally worthless? Seems to me that you just confirmed what I've been sayin' all along.
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Aug 2, 2006 17:12:04 GMT -5
Post by KHAN on Aug 2, 2006 17:12:04 GMT -5
....so doesn't that make'em totally worthless? Seems to me that you just confirmed what I've been sayin' all along. If you were the only one posting on this thread, they would be worthless. You have deemed them worthless for everyone, which is false. The interest by both sides of the issue to this thread would indicate they indeed have some value.
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Aug 2, 2006 18:51:30 GMT -5
Post by McCartneyIII on Aug 2, 2006 18:51:30 GMT -5
You guys have to find just the right pics to use... like the compressed pepper pic (the eyes are further apart that they should be) And you still can't make a perfect fade. You certainly can't take just any pics & make a fade, like you easily could if we were talkin' about 1 guy. So you guys with too much time just keep on workin' away, but remember.... fades can show either argument so THEY ARE WORTHLESS. THEY ARE WORTHLESS (that's why we're not makin'em) And secondly....I STILL haven't had my question answered... Why is it that JPM NEVER had a replacement? Photos seem to prove otherwise... over & over again. Personaly i'm don't belive that a fade, an overlay or a pic sequence shows or probe something that does not exist (PWR for me, PIA for you), but there are something in photography called perspective distortion (link), a same person u object can show diferences by the mod the photo was taken (the distance of the objet and the lens, the angle of inclination of the objet, if the photo was taken in motion or quiet, posing, casual, the use of zoom, the mm of the lens, if the photograp was taken from low to high, high to low, in front.....), but i found funny the search of similarities, i really don't care if the eyes distances matches or the ear lobes are low or wide, because the photos was taken with thousands of cameras around the world (amateur, profesional) from 1957 til today, and God only knows in what conditions of perspective distortion are taken. Now, forgot the (for you) dubious photos, what proofs or facts PWR got? open minds... common sense... eyes & ears. (no fades needed) That all sounds good Mc3, but y'all can't explain yerselves out of this corner you've painted yourself into. Let see The Story, this could be Open Minded, but open minded people even believe Elvis is alive to. Did Sir Paul do an episode of Star Trek?
, you call this thread or this Liverpool Hitler Relatives common sense? Faked?. yes got eyes, but don't see She's So Heavy - Mystery Demo ears? Sorry but PWR got less than nothing compared with PID
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Aug 2, 2006 19:14:33 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Aug 2, 2006 19:14:33 GMT -5
The She's so Heavy demo insofar as being a mystery as to who sings it does not originate here.. That's under debate amongst those who are fully convinced Paul is the same guy. (just an FYI)
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Aug 2, 2006 20:44:45 GMT -5
Post by FP on Aug 2, 2006 20:44:45 GMT -5
....so doesn't that make'em totally worthless? Seems to me that you just confirmed what I've been sayin' all along. Well I guess I do it because I enjoy it as a hobby, and it all pays off when people like Mello Yellow come along.
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Aug 2, 2006 20:51:30 GMT -5
Post by KHAN on Aug 2, 2006 20:51:30 GMT -5
Well I guess I do it because I enjoy it as a hobby, and it all pays off when people like Mello Yellow come along. Quite rightly.
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Aug 2, 2006 21:00:54 GMT -5
Post by McCartneyIII on Aug 2, 2006 21:00:54 GMT -5
The She's so Heavy demo insofar as being a mystery as to who sings it does not originate here.. That's under debate amongst those who are fully convinced Paul is the same guy. (just an FYI) Is a fake JoJo, like "Have you ear the word", with one diference the IW(SSH) in question got some samples from the Beatles version, dirted and altered in speed.
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Aug 2, 2006 21:09:40 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Aug 2, 2006 21:09:40 GMT -5
....so doesn't that make'em totally worthless? Seems to me that you just confirmed what I've been sayin' all along. Well I guess I do it because I enjoy it as a hobby, How 'bout that! That's the second time this evening that FP & I totally agree. As far as Hitler relatives & Star Trek are concerned... . If I'm not posting in those threads I obviously don't know or care (or don't have the time) so I don't see what that has to do with anything here. But.... who cares... y'all knock yerselves out. It's always entertaining to see the fades y'all think match & entertainment does have worth...... so worthless probably was the wrong word. ..... So... what's this about Hitler on Star Trek? Ya lost me on that one.
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Aug 2, 2006 21:29:12 GMT -5
Post by JoJo on Aug 2, 2006 21:29:12 GMT -5
Is a fake JoJo, like "Have you ear the word", with one diference the IW(SSH) in question got some samples from the Beatles version, dirted and altered in speed.
Are you sure? From The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions by Mark Lewisohn, and published by EMI. (sounds pretty official)
Saturday, 22 February:
...A number of [Abbey Road] songs were underway by [this] time.
One was 'I want you', a fine John Lennon song begun now with 35 takes of the basic track and John's guide vocal (one experimental take was sung by Paul McCartney).....
Yes the person who file shared this item pitch shifted it down a semitone from the way it was pressed to vinyl, don't know why.. (easy enough to change back if you like)
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Aug 3, 2006 7:26:41 GMT -5
Post by eyesbleed on Aug 3, 2006 7:26:41 GMT -5
Those are some nice examples. So I thought I'd go back & see how this silliness got started. I forgot FP & I started out agreein' on this thread. Yep... good examles & points made.... I just don't pay much attention to fades from either side. But if you guys wanna go on thinkin' this is a good example of PWNR, then yer next fades should be very entertaining.! ;D
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