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Post by Cheshire George on Oct 9, 2006 21:19:56 GMT -5
Or the Honorary John St. John Johnson or whatever we like to call him. I just wish he was alive today so he could enjoy his 66th.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Oct 9, 2006 21:58:28 GMT -5
Hard to believe that had he lived, he'd been 66! JPM would have been 64, and George 63 : (
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Post by Spanky on Oct 10, 2006 18:17:52 GMT -5
i bet he would still be making a huge impact if he hadn't been murdered
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Post by DarkHorse on Oct 10, 2006 19:26:04 GMT -5
He would be having a field day with this war in Iraq.
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Post by eyesbleed on Oct 10, 2006 21:31:03 GMT -5
With the new laws fixin' to go into effect; political activists are "terrorists". Once labeled a "terrorist" anybody can be held in one of Bush's secret prisons for life without a trial.
Same end result..... only now Bush will be able to legally torture & rape his children.
Sorry to change the subject & be such a downer but I'm furious that all this is goin' down without so much as a whimper. Olberman did a good piece on the death of habeus corpus & the bill of rights on tonights show.
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Post by JoJo on Oct 10, 2006 21:59:34 GMT -5
Guess I was watching along with ya EB, and yeah another ass kickin' commentary from Keith. Remember the "bill of right"?
Anyway, were John alive, we would have someone who would speak his mind, and have the power to persuade people to listen, should he so have chosen. He'd probably be a guest of Keith's, or he might appreciate the sharp humor of the Daily Show, imagine the possibilities..
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Post by Spanky on Oct 11, 2006 7:34:33 GMT -5
ive thought about that law eyesbleed. i think with someone like john though, they would be too high profile to get arrested for it possibly assassinated (oh wait that already happened)
think of the people that would really have listened to him. the following. where are people like that today?
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Post by eyesbleed on Oct 11, 2006 10:13:08 GMT -5
I think now would be a good time for Lennonesque activists to just throw their hands up & scream WTF?? Most americans are either too stupid or too brainwashed to care one way or the other.
There should be tens-of-millions of people out in the streets right now demanding a return to the constitution & some truthful answers to 9-11..... oh wait... they can't do that, they might miss an episode of their favorite reality show.
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Post by lili on Oct 11, 2006 10:25:46 GMT -5
Truer words have never been spoken, EB. My mom is one of the brain washed millions. It's so very sad.
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Post by McCartneyIII on Oct 11, 2006 13:06:14 GMT -5
I think now would be a good time for Lennonesque activists to just throw their hands up & scream WTF?? He would be having a field day with this war in Iraq. Well i think this is a nice point, more important than this PIA/PID/PWR parlor game, because in this world in wich more tham the half of the people lives under the line of poverty, where kids are easy food for rats, where the wars never stops and a new war, more blood, borns every day, terrorism, inequity, intolerance, racism, hunger, contamination, deavastation, the insolation of the man, poor vs poor, nobody can win, and now close to te 26 anniversary of Lennon death we still crying like widows, we ear all of him, but we don't learn nothing of him, the world is still bleeding from John chest, so please dont waste the rest of our lives imagining (is the easy part of it) is the TO MAKE time (the hardest work), so don't expect that McCartney, Dylan, Jagger, Gelgof and others show us the way, they are on their millons dollars houses now comfortably counting their last tour money. Demolish walls - Building bridges
The World can change (if WE want it)
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Post by lili on Oct 11, 2006 13:21:06 GMT -5
Spoken by someone who is living it. [img src="http://galeon.hispavista.com/akostuff/img/Good-Post[1].gif"]
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Post by beatlies on Oct 11, 2006 16:02:08 GMT -5
I think now would be a good time for Lennonesque activists to just throw their hands up & scream WTF?? He would be having a field day with this war in Iraq. Well i think this is a nice point, more important than this PIA/PID/PWR parlor game, because in this world in wich more tham the half of the people lives under the line of poverty, where kids are easy food for rats, where the wars never stops and a new war, more blood, borns every day, terrorism, inequity, intolerance, racism, hunger, contamination, deavastation, the insolation of the man, poor vs poor, nobody can win, and now close to te 26 anniversary of Lennon death we still crying like widows, we ear all of him, but we don't learn nothing of him, the world is still bleeding from John chest, so please dont waste the rest of our lives imagining (is the easy part of it) is the TO MAKE time (the hardest work), so don't expect that McCartney, Dylan, Jagger, Gelgof and others show us the way, they are on their millons dollars houses now comfortably counting their last tour money. Demolish walls - Building bridges
The World can change (if WE want it) False statement #1: Well i think this is a nice point, more important than this PIA/PID/PWR parlor game, Research and exposing these massive media frauds and state assassinations, like that of Lennon, is not a "a parlor game"; it is crucial to exposing the mass propaganda/mind control/state terror that keeps the whole rotten structure functioning and the "line of poverty" firmly in place: because in this world in wich more tham the half of the people lives under the line of poverty, where kids are easy food for rats, (See above) where the wars never stops and a new war, er, war DOES stop when the anti-war activists/revolutionaries win, and that does happen, the efforts of Faul, Finatra, Fia, Hitler, Eichmann, Mengele, Reagan, Pinochet, Bush, Franco, Mussolini, Hirohito, the Yoko Ono Yasuda Zaibatsu etc. notwithstanding more blood, borns every day, terrorism, inequity, intolerance, racism, hunger, contamination, deavastation, the insolation of the man, poor vs poor, nobody can win, and now close to te 26 anniversary of Lennon death we still crying like widows, we ear all of him, but we don't learn nothing of him, Wrong, in fact, We ARE learning a great deal now, about what Sean Lennon said is Lennon's CIA assassination, about Jose Perdomo, about "Billy Budapest" Charlie Brill etc. and we are going to win. the world is still bleeding from John chest, so please dont waste the rest of our lives imagining (is the easy part of it) is the TO MAKE time (the hardest work), so don't expect that McCartney, Dylan, Jagger, Gelgof [sic] and others show us the way, they are on their millons dollars houses now comfortably counting their last tour money.Yes, let's stop imagining, and start spreading information to the masses about the massive media fraud mind rapes going on for decades about Richard Farina, Pynchon, the CIA-Baez's and Fob Fylan, Fia, Finatra, Faul, Foris Fay, Fylvie, how Bob Geldof started as an MI6 journalist in Canada, Charlie Brill, the Manson killing false flag operation, the post-war Nazification of the BND, CIA and MI6, how the CIA and BND protected Mengele and Eichmann in Argentina etc. Imagine a world where we could get a straight story from the local NYC news, CNN, the NYPD or fire department on whether a helicopter, "small plane/fixed-wing aircraft" or incinidery bomb just exploded in the 20th/40th/44th floor of a 72 Street apartment building (same street, east side version as the Dakota and about a mile north of the United Nations building) ........
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Post by FP on Oct 11, 2006 16:24:44 GMT -5
Oh my god, I knew someone would turn this into a conspiracy.
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Post by McCartneyIII on Oct 11, 2006 16:57:06 GMT -5
Demolish walls - Building bridges
The World can change (if WE want it) Like we see, the problem are those who don't want it.
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Post by eyesbleed on Oct 11, 2006 18:32:37 GMT -5
Wrong, in fact, We ARE learning a great deal now, about what Sean Lennon said is Lennon's CIA assassination, about Jose Perdomo, about "Billy Budapest" Charlie Brill etc. and we are going to win. Well I think John would appreciate the direction his thread has taken. But anyway beatlies, I've seen other optimistic rumblings from some well-known 9-11 truthers recently, but I'm not so sure there's any reason to be optimistic. Ya know what happens when a wild animal finds itself cornered. Bush now has the laws in place, and the secret prisons ready to fill up so what's gonna stop them from a wholesale roundup of everyone who's tried to stop them. Start with journalists, & anti-Bush authors, etc & then scoop up anybody who's brave enough to get out there & protest this insanity. How many people are gonna speak up if they know it may mean a lifetime of unspeakable torture? If that doesn't stop ya they'll torture & rape yer kids..... that'll keep those 9-11 truthers quiet.
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Post by Spanky on Oct 11, 2006 18:43:37 GMT -5
FP this isn't about conspiracy. this is about fact. you cant get the real news from your local tv because of the people that own and opporate it. The average person is so scared to speak out in fear of being taken and not having any rights by the law. It would take a high profile person to really take a stand in order for the average person to follow. Its a sad state of affairs but its true. It would be harder to just snatch a high profile person and not give them any rights than it would be for you or i.
Look at the rights you have lost all in the name of homeland security. You no longer have free speech, you can no longer disagree with the precident and lets be really honest you are no longer a free citizen of the united states. This has become a terrorist government (note i did say government and not nation) hell bent on making sure that we all live in fear. If by chance the public starts to get a little out of hand they whip out another disaster, bin ladin tape or code red. Do you still hold the same fear as you did back in 2001 when you hear that its a code red? be honest now. this government is creating a society that feeds on fear. Are we so damn pathetic that we can't see whats really going on.
I hate to sound like a survivalist but its taken bush to really make me realize that self sufficency is the only way to go. Growing our own food, tending our own cattle and making sure that we have provisions because their will come a time when only those that haven't bought into the consumer driven life will come out on top.
sorry got off track
carry on
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Post by JoJo on Oct 11, 2006 18:50:00 GMT -5
Tend your own cattle, wow.. Hey if the SHTF, I know how mend fences and all that..
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Post by Spanky on Oct 11, 2006 18:51:41 GMT -5
Tend your own cattle, wow.. Hey if the SHTF, I know how mend fences and all that.. is this your way of asking for an invite to the spanky farm? LOL we will have you bailing hay and shearing sheep before you know it
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Post by JoJo on Oct 11, 2006 19:04:13 GMT -5
Shearing Sheep? Hey I could learn to be a "Shepherd", lol. You are in a good place, come what may. Perhaps all will turn out OK, or maybe not, but being self sufficient is the way to go. I was just thinking, if you are at the level of having cattle, then this ain't no "gentleman farmer" operation.. Very cool!
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Post by Doc on Oct 11, 2006 20:24:57 GMT -5
FP this isn't about conspiracy. this is about fact. you cant get the real news from your local tv because of the people that own and opporate it. The average person is so scared to speak out in fear of being taken and not having any rights by the law. It would take a high profile person to really take a stand in order for the average person to follow. Its a sad state of affairs but its true. It would be harder to just snatch a high profile person and not give them any rights than it would be for you or i. Look at the rights you have lost all in the name of homeland security. You no longer have free speech, you can no longer disagree with the precident and lets be really honest you are no longer a free citizen of the united states. This has become a terrorist government (note i did say government and not nation) hell bent on making sure that we all live in fear. If by chance the public starts to get a little out of hand they whip out another disaster, bin ladin tape or code red. Do you still hold the same fear as you did back in 2001 when you hear that its a code red? be honest now. this government is creating a society that feeds on fear. Are we so damn pathetic that we can't see whats really going on. I hate to sound like a survivalist but its taken bush to really make me realize that self sufficency is the only way to go. Growing our own food, tending our own cattle and making sure that we have provisions because their will come a time when only those that haven't bought into the consumer driven life will come out on top. sorry got off track carry on It's fine, I appreciated your post. You sound just like my sister, er, my beloved, late sister. The truth is, conspiracy or no conspiracy, is that all of us in America fall easy prey to the conveniences and comforts we have available to us. We are a nation and a generation very used to, an dependent on, are fast paced, modern life-style which is made possible by all of our conveniences. We are a free nation (still, more or less), and we elect leaders who are JUST LIKE US. And they enjoy their position and power. And they know they have to keep our lifestyle up to par ("national security") or they lose their jobs. Are there secret societies? Of course there are, or at least, I think so. There always have been. They have long been present, operating "below the radar" of the masses. So, what is the difference now? Well, technology and modern convenience. And the stakes are higher. They have never had so many powerful tools as they do today in order to manage all of us, the "serfs", the vassals, on this giant feudal state of earth. We all hear the predictions of tomorrow. They vary from utopian all the way to cataclysmic. I tend to see things as in-between; we will either survive, or be saved from power beyond ourselves, as the human race, in the ultimate sense. But the PTB have power over us only to the degree to which we are dependent upon them. As long as we RECEIVE the service from them, we OWE them "the duty"; that's the basis in short of our contract with them. When they can no longer offer us anything as barter against our personal sovereignty, the relationship is broken and their authority ebbs. They must do anything in their power to retain this relationship. Fear from the threat of the loss of these benefits is the hidden message that is wrapped up into nearly every news story, new piece of legislation, and Act of State. Innuendo, rumor, dialecticism, and controversy are the spoken tactics; famine, shortages, outages, and terrifying displays are the deeds of this silent war. This isn't new to the 21st or even 20th century; these things have been going on for millennia. You and I weren't raised operating in this way (that's THEIR idea, too), for their benefit, we grow up unaccustomed and uncomprehending of their devices. Still, in the world and present age in which we live now, "fate", or a Higher Power, whomever you can conceive, has chosen for us to have this kind of potential in our ruler-ship. It is unwise to challenge "it's" right to rule, as such, for the challenger will lose the contest. But, being wise to the nature of "it" is helpful. Spanky, you are wise to have your household oriented in preparedness. I wish you supreme happiness and the best of all possible farms! May things remain tenable in our lifetimes; may our children inherit a kinder world (if we are able to give it to them!)
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Post by eyesbleed on Oct 11, 2006 21:26:58 GMT -5
We are a free nation (still, more or less), and we elect leaders who are JUST LIKE US. We only have the illusion of a free country (for now)... the fact is that with the passing of the detainees bill & the military commisions act (I think those are the right titles) we no longer have habeus corpus or a bill of rights, & the constution has been rendered impotent. The geneva convention no longer applies in the US. There is no longer a balance of power, or separation of church & state. We are now officially a facsist dictatorship... look up the definition. By law, activists are now considered terrorists as is anyone who openly disagrees with gov't policy. Torturing & raping your kids is now legal (for Bush)... check the fine print. Does this sound like a free democracy to you?
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Post by McCartneyIII on Oct 12, 2006 0:16:48 GMT -5
Beatlies Coocking Book - aka - fourthousands ways to pretend to be an enemy of the state rather than a sad pathetic loserTwo, one, two, three, four Ev'rybody's talking about Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism This-ism, That-ism, is-m, is-m, is-m All we are saying is give piece a chance, All we are saying is give piece a chance C'mon Ev'rybody's talking about ministers, Sinister, Banisters And canisters, Bishops, Fishops, Rabbis, and Pop eyes, Bye, bye, bye byes All we are saying is give peace a chance, All we are saying is give peace a chance Let me tell you now Revoluton, evolution, masturbation, Flagellation, regulation, integrations, Meditations, United Nations, Congratulations Ev'rybody's talking about John and Yoko, Timmy Leary, Rosemary, Tommy Smothers, Bobby Dylan, Tommy Copper, Derek Taylor, Norman Mailer, Allen Ginsberg, Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna "A Conspiracy of Silence Speaks Louder Than Words"
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Post by Cheshire George on Oct 14, 2006 15:11:26 GMT -5
McCartney III, that is quite enough. Kindly stop posting on this thread.
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Post by eyesbleed on Oct 14, 2006 15:36:53 GMT -5
We are a free nation (still, more or less), and we elect leaders who are JUST LIKE US. We only have the illusion of a free country (for now)... the fact is that with the passing of the detainees bill & the military commisions act (I think those are the right titles) we no longer have habeus corpus or a bill of rights, & the constution has been rendered impotent. The geneva convention no longer applies in the US. There is no longer a balance of power, or separation of church & state. We are now officially a facsist dictatorship... look up the definition. By law, activists are now considered terrorists as is anyone who openly disagrees with gov't policy. Torturing & raping your kids is now legal (for Bush)... check the fine print. Does this sound like a free democracy to you? Some legal "experts" are sayin' there's still a slim chance we might get this nightmare straightened out. Either thru the courts, or international courts. Although our Att. Gen. (who apparently has never seen this "constitution") has openly threatened the courts if they don't make the "right" decisions. If the US courts are bulldozed over by King George, maybe the international courts will make a difference. Plus there's the fact that more people every day wake up to the 9-11 truths... although recent legislation sez 9-11 truthers are equivilent to "terrorist recruiters" & should be treated as such. It's definately a race against time.... & times just about out. The laws are in place now that make it possible for Bush to do whatever the hell he wants to do... so it ain't lookin' good.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Oct 14, 2006 22:33:39 GMT -5
The UN's educational system has systematically dumbed down society through public school.
The entertainment and sports industries have dumbed down the masses through mindless entertainment.
We've become a fast food nation, fattened for slaughter, dumbed down and numb from all the stress of living in a fast paced life and we are all slumped in our couches watching mind numbing stupidity on network television.
They removed God from everything except cursing and swearing. They believe that they evolved from an ape. And if they did evolve from an ape, why are we not still evolving? And why are there apes and "man" co existing? Phooey on Darwin...it's all part of the plan....
Mind control through gurus like Oprah, Dr. Phil or whatever other blind guide one chooses to follow through mis information.
We have a dictator in office, but he doesn't even have the charisma Hitler had.
We are a mess.
Who shall deliver us from this mess?
The Bible says God will bring wrath on this trainwreck of a world gone amuck.
I don't know how much longer this old world is going to endure North Korean Nuclear tests, earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, melting ice caps, and the slumbering supervolcano that lies beneath Yellowstone National Park. The world is cringing with all the filth that has been done to it. It's groaning for help!
What a mess man has made of this orb!
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