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Post by beacon on Jul 24, 2014 4:57:58 GMT -5
Friend of Jill Dando? Of CRIME WATCH fame? Yes, the same Jill Dando who was offed just before she was about to spill the beans on the whole rotten scenario - allegedly, of course!!!!
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Post by roscoe on Jul 24, 2014 5:02:07 GMT -5
But back to Savile. It's OK he's fair game.
Are you aware of the interview he gave for National Enquirer?
Yes I know statue of Elvis on the moon etc etc. Makes people ignore the whole publication doesn't it?
Savile spoke about how he had learned how to hypnotize his victims especially those in hospital.
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Post by roscoe on Jul 24, 2014 5:05:02 GMT -5
Yes, the same Jill Dando who was offed just before she was about to spill the beans on the whole rotten scenario - allegedly, of course!!!! Yes we don't know do we? But the investigating officer did say that the killing looked like a professional hit job.
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Post by roscoe on Jul 24, 2014 5:11:44 GMT -5
As I said, happy to help. I am still trying to piece it all together myself but it goes way beyond PID - so this forum may not be the best place to discuss it - and into the darker and more mysterious worlds of mind control and sex related blackmail. I have a contact who claims to have been a test subject of Richard Asher and Emmanuel Miller - Jonathan's father - and it appears they were working on a method of mentally inducing orgasms for patients who no longer had the physical apparatus to achieve it; victims of war etc. Essentially, though, using mind control. Stephen Ward was a Monarch mind controller who had the ability to manipulate women into doing whatever he pleased and, I believe, thought that the dirt that he had on very important people made him immune and untouchable. But boy was he wrong! Ward lived virtually opposite the Asher's and knew Richard Asher well. I believe that the Asher's used some sort of sleep hypnosis to insert Yesterday into McCartney's mind, similar to the techniques of William Sargent and Ewan Cameron only far more effective. It was, I believe, an experiment. There is a Tavistock connection however this is way bigger than the Theo Adorno theory. It is possible that Ward may also have convinced George Martin and Parlophone - as you say a comedy record label - to sign the Beatles. Ward worked for the intelligence services and they used sexual blackmail to control people and Epstein had been arrested for cottaging - as had Joe Meek, Tom Driberg etc - and so was in the pocket of the secret services. Ward, like Epstein, died of an overdose of sleeping pills, whilst Richard Asher also took his own life. I believe that Ward had stumbled onto a major child sex ring involving the likes of Anthony Blunt, Lord Boothby, Tom Driberg and the Kray Twins etc - the details of which are now slowly seeping out - and that had the potential, and probably still does, to destroy the British Monarchy, so he had to go. The question is, is this why Epstein and Asher also had to go and how much did the Beatles know? There's something odd about the death of Jimi Hendrix too. And Mark Bolan Janis Joplin Jim Morrison.
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Post by beacon on Jul 24, 2014 5:24:37 GMT -5
I knew about the hypnotising thing through this, very interesting, video which covers Savile and the Beatles;
The other deaths you mention are all interesting but are more the domain of Dave McGowan.
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Post by beacon on Jul 24, 2014 5:33:42 GMT -5
Roscoe, where did you find the discussions about my 'Yesterday' theory?
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Post by roscoe on Jul 24, 2014 5:40:19 GMT -5
Roscoe, where did you find the discussions about my 'Yesterday' theory? I don't recall but it may have been you giving the link to Richard Asher - Jane's Father although I had read her biography and she mentions her father a lot. I was drawn to it by the Lennon song How do you sleep? And an interview with McCartney about how he says he woke up with the song Yesterday fully formed in his head. It went on from there about Paul's mother etc. I didn't know about the Steven Ward link and I may have got that from you. I have done some work on Hypnotism through my work on the Occult. This doesn't mean I practice it by the way. It's dangerous, you can really screw someone up with it.
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Post by roscoe on Jul 24, 2014 6:12:23 GMT -5
I knew about the hypnotising thing through this, very interesting, video which covers Savile and the Beatles; The other deaths you mention are all interesting but are more the domain of Dave McGowan. Savile - - Born on Samhain and a seventh son............Right up my street By the way it was the Sunday Sport not the National Enquirer as I said but they are the same kind of thing.
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Post by hotman637 on Jul 25, 2014 0:25:49 GMT -5
I like Roscoe's thinking - methinks he may have been reading my MKBeatles article. Blimey!!!! I suppose you won't believe me but really I haven't. I have got some things from the internet and they have read your article. But still perhaps we should compare notes. This study here is part of a study for my book entitled SEX, DRUGS, ROCK n ROLL AND THE OCCULT. It doesn't just involve the Beatles. The Rolling Stones, Mark Bolan, David Bowie, Michael Jackson, Beyonce and several others. I Presume you've seen this too.The problem with this video about "Satanism" is it just mixes up a bunch of confusing unrelated "facts" without explaining what "Satanism" ACTUALLY IS! They go on and on saying how horrible Satanism is without EXPLAINING IT! The fact is "Satanism" is worshipping God as a man! That is ALL it is! Of course the ironic fact is just about ALL religions worship God as a man including Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc. So when Christian complain about "Satanism" it is the pot calling the kettle black.
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Post by Jude on Jul 25, 2014 0:48:22 GMT -5
Why would Paul McCartney be used as a Manchurian Candidate? Never mind the fact that you spend all that time explaining why you think he is one but don't explain who he was used to assassinate.
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Post by roscoe on Jul 25, 2014 1:50:08 GMT -5
Blimey!!!! I suppose you won't believe me but really I haven't. I have got some things from the internet and they have read your article. But still perhaps we should compare notes. This study here is part of a study for my book entitled SEX, DRUGS, ROCK n ROLL AND THE OCCULT. It doesn't just involve the Beatles. The Rolling Stones, Mark Bolan, David Bowie, Michael Jackson, Beyonce and several others. I Presume you've seen this too.The problem with this video about "Satanism" is it just mixes up a bunch of confusing unrelated "facts" without explaining what "Satanism" ACTUALLY IS! They go on and on saying how horrible Satanism is without EXPLAINING IT! The fact is "Satanism" is worshipping God as a man! That is ALL it is! Of course the ironic fact is just about ALL religions worship God as a man including Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc. So when Christian complain about "Satanism" it is the pot calling the kettle black. It's all about control of the masses (or it was). There is no half man half goat that dances around seducing everyone. He's the YANG to the YING. The DARKNESS to the LIGHT. Without Black there is no White. Every governing power has to pacify the masses for control and above all they must not let them think too much. Their thinking must be controlled. As Hitler said in Mein Kampf "It is fortunate for Governments that the people do not think". Every Western Religion is a Solar religion - Judaism, Christian and Islam (some Rabbis insist that Judaism is not a religion at all). Most Eastern Religions are in the mind and strive for higher states of consciousness. Christianity is a direct amalgam of Mithraism and other Roman cults manufactured by Constantine the Great and his advisors. The word IHS (pronounced JES) is a reference to the SUN and US is the male personification of the Sun, hence JESUS. The female version would be JESA. Judaism is the cult of ABRAHAM and he worshipped EL SHADDAI which is only interpreted as God Almighty. But that isn't correct because we know that the Canaanites worshipped EL SHADDAI and it means the GOD ABOVE - the life giver and destroyer - THE SUN. Indeed the first lines of the Hebrew Bible speaks of "In the beginning the GOD S made the HEAVEN S AND THE EARTH" i.e. the Zodiac Gods. Islam stems from both these religions and Assyrian Sun Worship. You have to ask why these three religions are so hell bent (pardon the analogy) of taking over Jerusalem. Or building Jerusalem somewhere else (cue William Blake - And did those feet etc) All these three religions have had to undertake some adjustment over the years. Can't GOD make his mind up? Then we come to now. THE NEW AGE. We have just ended the AGE OF PISCES. We are now in the AGE OF AQUARIUS i.e. The Sun at the spring Equinox rises in Aquarius and no longer Pisces. (for those who dispute this shall I say that it all depends on where one defines the border between Aquarius and Pisces. The French IGN say we're in Aquarius) So the AGE OF THE FISHES is over and so is the Christian fish. The Pope must throw away the FISHERMAN'S RING he wears. So what controls us now? Well not much, only ourselves and boy are we good at it. Sheep needs a sheepdog to herd them, we herd ourselves because we've been brainwashed. Satanism? Just a game that has been played for centuries which seems to give a kind of sexual pleasure to those you have a predilection to this kind of thing. Killing and particularly the ritual killing innocents gives some a thrill. Which may be implanted at a young age but may even have genetic tendency to it. It's a MIND GAME. You on the other hand, born into this envelope police yourselves. And since this is the Beatles forum allow me to let John Lennon tell you. "Working Class Hero" As soon as your born they make you feel small by giving you no time instead of it all Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all Working Class Hero is something to be Working Class Hero is something to be They hurt you at home and they hit you at school They hate you if you're clever and despise a fool Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules Working Class Hero is something to be Working Class Hero is something to be When they've tortured and scared you for 20 odd years then they expect you to pick a career When you can't really function you're so full of fear Working Class Hero is something to be Working Class Hero is something to be Keep you doped with religion, sex and T.V. and you think you're so clever and classless and free but you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see Working Class Hero is something to be Working Class Hero is something to be There's room at the top I'm telling you still but first you must learn how to smile as you kill if you want to be like the folks on the hill Working Class Hero is something to be Yes , A Working Class Hero is something to be If you want to be a hero well just follow me If you want to be a hero well just follow me Working Class HeroYES WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER. NEW BOGIE MEN UNDER THE BED.
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Post by roscoe on Jul 25, 2014 3:03:23 GMT -5
Why would Paul McCartney be used as a Manchurian Candidate? Never mind the fact that you spend all that time explaining why you think he is one but don't explain who he was used to assassinate. Us Nice clean cut boys making OK music. National heroes. Fashion icons. People programmed to follow. Next Drug taking weirdos 'Doing what they Wilt'. destroying the status quo and giving publicity to the hippy revolution. Assassinating established religion and planting a NEW AGE concept in the minds of the masses. We actually don't need a New Age any more than we needed an old Age. The Manchurian Candidate here is my reference to a programmed automaton who was first controlled perhaps as part of an experiement to see if could be done. T.H.E.Y. then took him over. T.H.E.Y. = The Hierarchy Enslaving You. Like Lennon said once T.H.E.Y. released him because he was no longer useful he started making muzak. C MOON - FROG Song what are they all about?
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Post by roscoe on Jul 25, 2014 3:35:27 GMT -5
MIND GAMES"Mind Games" We're playing those mind games together Pushing the barriers planting seeds Playing the mind guerrilla Chanting the Mantra peace on earth We all been playing those mind games forever Some kinda druid dudes lifting the veil Doing the mind guerrilla Some call it magic the search for the grail Love is the answer and you know that for sure Love is a flower you got to let it grow So keep on playing those mind games together Faith in the future out of the now You just can't beat on those mind guerrillas Absolute elsewhere in the stones of your mind Yeah we're playing those mind games together Projecting our images in space and in time Yes is the answer and you know that for sure Yes is surrender you got to let it go So keep on playing those mind games together Doing the ritual dance in the sun Millions of mind guerrillas Putting their soul power to the karmic wheel Keep on playing those mind games together Raising the spirit of peace and love (I want you to make love, not war I know you've heard it before)
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Post by roscoe on Jul 25, 2014 5:22:53 GMT -5
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Post by ticket2ride on Jul 25, 2014 6:07:18 GMT -5
I love your thread Roscoe although I am not in agreement with bits of it. But that's just my personal choice and overall you've made thought-provoking posts which is what I want to see when I come here.
About Jane Asher's father - he actually didn't blow his mind out in a car, he hanged himself somewhere in the family home. The whole Asher involvement with Paul McCartney is one of those things that sounds odder the more we know about the family. I think it's plausible that the father might have experimented with his daughter's famous boyfriend, it was too good an opportunity to pass up.
I also love Beacon's blog, have heard his books are good, and I also love Dr Tomoculus' blog (does he post here?), and Clare K's stuff.
Best wishes for your book Roscoe - I see you've mentioned Beyonce there, I'm sure you see through all the hype there. She may be a nice person but there are things about her that are odd and have been known by some of us for a fairly long time now especially as I have been writing a book on her husband Jay Z.
As somebody who has been into hiphop music since the 80s I find it amusing to read all the PR by Jay Z's people since he started a whole new career by association with Beyonce - the people he plays up to now do not know much about him from his early days to his first record to his first 'retirement'. 'Deluded' and 'bullshit artist' are two words that can be associated with him among others - I enjoyed reading a borrowed autobiography of him last year that cuts out the key roles of the people who helped him or influenced him, and conveniently skips information that proves his image has been re-made for a gullible mainstream audience. I enjoyed the biography from the point of view that it is a bit of a farce.
Re your wise concerns re potential lawsuits etc, maybe you're being too worried even if people get in trouble for material on the net or in book form. It's not difficult to write a critique of a famous entertainer using stories as in people's accounts of them, news items and opinion pieces from various sources etc without running into legal troubles. It's all in the way it is written.
There have been a couple of Madonna biographies written without her co-operation that have been very unflattering but no action was taken much as I am sure she would have loved to have done so. Andrew Morton wrote a very unflattering book called Posh and Becks which both of them were furious about but again, the author could not be touched.
American writers seem more prone to be cowed than Brits or others, and an ex friend of Jay Z who gave interviews to mainstream media about Jay Z using his experiences and pretending they were his didn't publish a projected book exposing Jay Z because he was paid off apparently. He was intimidated by flunkies of Jay Z but in the end he would have received a good publishing deal had he shopped his book so I think it can be presumed that DeHaven got what he wanted from Jay Z.
I think you're much freer to speculate than you think provided the way it is expressed is familiar with the law. Publishing unauthorised photos and lyrics of your subject is going to end worse than writing about the rumors and apparent facts surrounding them.
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Post by roscoe on Jul 25, 2014 7:46:13 GMT -5
Part of the Disney child programming THE MOUSKETEERS In the picture Justin Timberlake Britney Spears Christina Aguilera
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Post by roscoe on Jul 25, 2014 7:49:24 GMT -5
I love your thread Roscoe although I am not in agreement with bits of it. But that's just my personal choice and overall you've made thought-provoking posts which is what I want to see when I come here. About Jane Asher's father - he actually didn't blow his mind out in a car, he hanged himself somewhere in the family home. The whole Asher involvement with Paul McCartney is one of those things that sounds odder the more we know about the family. I think it's plausible that the father might have experimented with his daughter's famous boyfriend, it was too good an opportunity to pass up. I also love Beacon's blog, have heard his books are good, and I also love Dr Tomoculus' blog (does he post here?), and Clare K's stuff. Best wishes for your book Roscoe - I see you've mentioned Beyonce there, I'm sure you see through all the hype there. She may be a nice person but there are things about her that are odd and have been known by some of us for a fairly long time now especially as I have been writing a book on her husband Jay Z. As somebody who has been into hiphop music since the 80s I find it amusing to read all the PR by Jay Z's people since he started a whole new career by association with Beyonce - the people he plays up to now do not know much about him from his early days to his first record to his first 'retirement'. 'Deluded' and 'bullshit artist' are two words that can be associated with him among others - I enjoyed reading a borrowed autobiography of him last year that cuts out the key roles of the people who helped him or influenced him, and conveniently skips information that proves his image has been re-made for a gullible mainstream audience. I enjoyed the biography from the point of view that it is a bit of a farce. Re your wise concerns re potential lawsuits etc, maybe you're being too worried even if people get in trouble for material on the net or in book form. It's not difficult to write a critique of a famous entertainer using stories as in people's accounts of them, news items and opinion pieces from various sources etc without running into legal troubles. It's all in the way it is written. There have been a couple of Madonna biographies written without her co-operation that have been very unflattering but no action was taken much as I am sure she would have loved to have done so. Andrew Morton wrote a very unflattering book called Posh and Becks which both of them were furious about but again, the author could not be touched. American writers seem more prone to be cowed than Brits or others, and an ex friend of Jay Z who gave interviews to mainstream media about Jay Z using his experiences and pretending they were his didn't publish a projected book exposing Jay Z because he was paid off apparently. He was intimidated by flunkies of Jay Z but in the end he would have received a good publishing deal had he shopped his book so I think it can be presumed that DeHaven got what he wanted from Jay Z. I think you're much freer to speculate than you think provided the way it is expressed is familiar with the law. Publishing unauthorised photos and lyrics of your subject is going to end worse than writing about the rumors and apparent facts surrounding them. Beyoncé Knowles DESTINY'S CHILD She gets more demonlike every dayShe's not possessed she's hypnotised. Part of a programme. You probably guessed who the 73 year old pop star that was arrested and then released. Most of you probably know but just in case you don't the word OCCULT means HIDDEN.
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Post by ticket2ride on Jul 26, 2014 0:14:18 GMT -5
Yes, it's not hard to guess the identity of that pop star. I'd like to think that people must be given the presumption of innocence but on the other hand the company they have kept when they knew what that company was doing unfortunately says much about them and indicates a possible connection with the same actions.
As for Beyonce, I wouldn't say she gets 'more demonic every day'. But yes, she doesn't seem to have a great deal of autonomy. She went touring for a year without a decent hit to promote despite being a new mother and she is now on another draining tour with her husband. People who don't know much about the music industry think that's fine but if you have the money that pair are supposed to have then you don't need to continually re-embark on those kinds of schedules.
Beyonce obsessively puts the horns in many of her publicity photos - there's even an example where she is in the spotlight on stage and a fan is holding up a phone or camera. You don't see the fan but you do see the shape of their hand making the horns sign. Beyonce and Jay Z can worship whoever or whatever they like - money, themselves, Baphomet which is what the horns mean - but their obsessive sign making in public looks silly.
Lately Jay Z has taken to wearing jewellry that is similar to the symbols of the Five Percenters - Black people who believe they are among the elite 5% of the world who are 'godly' and who hold that white people are the devil. I oppose discriminatory philosophies whoever they come from but the real Five Percenters aren't hypocrites, they don't want to be part of the white system and make it clear although of course realistically speaking most must operate in it.
On the other hand Jay Z wants to sell things to white people, make use of them, get money and privileges from them - all the while potraying himself in a false way. And a true Five Percenter would not engage in Baphomet sign flashing or pay any heed to such symbols as the androgynous goat. They also would not give the so called diamond sign which is often interchanged with the Luciferian one it resembles that Jay Z spends a lot of his public time flashing as well.
You should give more credit to the attention seeking of celebrities although yes, there are occult things going on with them.
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Post by ticket2ride on Jul 26, 2014 4:52:32 GMT -5
The 73 year old wouldn't happen to be a certain well known born again christian, would he? Try googling harriet webb. well now perhaps I should draw your attention to what's happening in the US where a provider of a forum as been put in prison for what someone else had said on their website. But hey look at some Pathe News archives filmed in the Channels Islands Any more information re a forum provider who has been imprisoned because of what someone else said on their website? The US laws on such things are actually much more liberal than people might think. David Beckham, for example, could not get much satisfaction in the courts there when a woman claimed she had been his lover and it made various newspapers and mags. With all his money and respectable public image. From what I know a fair bit of the action initiated against website and forum owners is done as more of a bluff. There is a growing toughness regarding intellectual property as websites that have lyrics of famous or well known songs have been told to cough up the money or take the lyrics done, same with photos. We should all enjoy the freedom at present to quote Paul McCartney lyrics and Beatles lyrics, share photos etc because it seems on the net there is an over-abundance of intellectual property focus. It seems the music monopolies have enough time and money to trawl around.
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Post by roscoe on Jul 29, 2014 1:35:34 GMT -5
well now perhaps I should draw your attention to what's happening in the US where a provider of a forum as been put in prison for what someone else had said on their website. But hey look at some Pathe News archives filmed in the Channels Islands Any more information re a forum provider who has been imprisoned because of what someone else said on their website? The US laws on such things are actually much more liberal than people might think. David Beckham, for example, could not get much satisfaction in the courts there when a woman claimed she had been his lover and it made various newspapers and mags. With all his money and respectable public image. From what I know a fair bit of the action initiated against website and forum owners is done as more of a bluff. There is a growing toughness regarding intellectual property as websites that have lyrics of famous or well known songs have been told to cough up the money or take the lyrics done, same with photos. We should all enjoy the freedom at present to quote Paul McCartney lyrics and Beatles lyrics, share photos etc because it seems on the net there is an over-abundance of intellectual property focus. It seems the music monopolies have enough time and money to trawl around. link
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Post by roscoe on Jul 29, 2014 2:21:01 GMT -5
A year before the Beatles released Magical Mystery Tour on BBC2 Jonathon Miller produced a version of Alice in Wonderland for the same channel. Now we know how much Lewis Carroll and Alice influenced John and Paul and, of course, young Jane Asher had played the title role herself! Everything leads down the rabbit hole! Incidentally google Emmanuel Miller and tavistock and see what comes up. Jane through the Looking Glass. I'm Looking through you written whilst Paul and Jane were 'together'According to Wikipedia he wrote it for Jane.
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Post by roscoe on Aug 17, 2014 2:41:17 GMT -5
I'm Looking through you written by Paul McCartney for his girlfriend Jane AsherShe played in 'Alice'. According to Wikipedia he wrote it for Jane. - Lewis Carrol author of 'Alice through the Looking Glass.' In ‘Through a Looking Glass’, Alice suddenly takes out a pencil and begins writing unintelligible words in a book before The White King. Things are reversed through the looking glass. The Beatles seemed to be the first to have used backmasking ( playing words of songs in Reverse.) ------- RAINExtract from Through the Looking Glass Lewis Carrol was a member of the Society for Psychical Research
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Post by roscoe on Aug 17, 2014 2:50:19 GMT -5
Paul isn't dead he was simply: BORN AGAIN. Perhaps in Kenya. In 1988, when George W Bush was on the Presidential Campaign Trail; Barbara Walters interviewed him. She asked him a question that caught him off guard. Barbara asked George if he was a Christian. Bush literally stumbled, looked down for a moment, and answered, "If by being a Christian, you ask if I am 'Born Again,' then yes, I am a Christian."
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The Brownsville Satanic Murders and George W Bush
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Post by linus on Aug 18, 2014 2:00:40 GMT -5
Awakenings is interesting on many levels. Robin Williams' character sees that some of his patients are not completely catatonic when they are able to, as he describes it, "follow the will" of an object or person. He first takes notice when his patient Lucy catches her round granny glasses in mid-air when Williams attempts to drop them in her lap. His first real breakthrough comes when Lucy walks across the black/white tiled floor on her own. Very interesting that Williams cures his patients by giving them medication designed for Parkinson's sufferers; L-Dopa. His biggest success is DeNiro's character, Leonard Lowe. Leonard's love interest if Paula. If by association, Leonard resonates as a Paul figure, and Lucy, with her round glasses resonates as a Lennon figure, we could have something. Williams' patients are relieved of their symptoms for only a few weeks. This closely parallels the premise of the new movie Lucy, in that she has extraordinary mental abilities for only the one day that the drug is in her system. Oliver Sacks (Dr Richard Asher's student) was the doctor played by Robin Williams in the film AwakeningsSacks is the cousin of Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat who had worked for Chaim Weizmann. Eban worked for British Intelligence in WWII and later Israeli intelligence after the 1948 mandate. Awakenings features characters named Paula, Eleanor, Lucy, and an actor named George Martin plays a character named Frank.
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