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Post by Huxleys_halo on Dec 5, 2014 16:55:50 GMT -5
According to this new website, it wasn't just Paul who was replaced and he wasn't replaced just once or in 1966. But they were ALL replaced multiple times and from the beginning. "The Beatles" as they were presented to us never really existed: www.thebeatlesneverexisted.com/Thoughts?
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Post by linus on Dec 5, 2014 17:02:38 GMT -5
The crew here says the same thing. pid.hoop.la/homeSpeaking of which, this thread could go in the Forum Hopping section.
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Post by maxedison on Dec 6, 2014 16:19:32 GMT -5
Most bands are not what we perceive. The vocals are manipulated along with the instruments. In the studio you start with a Core song..... Basic melody, Basic chord progression....bring in a piano player he does his basic theme maybe 15 different compositions until one is found that "Fits". Someone has a Basic idea for the orchestra, someone else writes the score for the orchestra. 5 or 10 different rhythm patterns for the guitar. Someone else takes all of the pieces and puts them together for the final cut. THEN the song is written down on paper with its instruments harmonies and such in the proper place. John and Paul wrote the words and Basic melody.....George did his part with the Basic rhythm and lead....Ringo, Basic drum beat. Others decided whether John,Paul,George and ringo kept what they had or reworked the song and added all the Bells and Whistles...or in the case of Sgt Pepper,MMT and such the Citar, Bongo's, hapsichords, Orchestra............. In the beginning there may have been a REAL John,Paul,George and Ringo With their distict sound.....After the "Formula" was learned it would be easy to reproduce with "Others".
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Post by Huxleys_halo on Dec 6, 2014 17:42:25 GMT -5
I know what you mean Max, but perhaps something a little darker was going on with the Beatles, and the back stories of the boys was merely invention? Maybe a John Lennon of Liverpool who's parents split up leaving him to leave with his Aunt Mimi, never actually existed?
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Post by maxedison on Dec 6, 2014 19:15:14 GMT -5
I know what you mean also, that the "Beatles" where like a live play where different people are just actors playing the part of the lads. A little like Milli vanilli who were front men lip sinking.
But then you still have the question of 'Why replace Pete Best get rid of Stu and bring in Ringo?'. Why not just get a replacement for those like you did with Paul? Why bring in a new Paul in the first place to have the Fabulous Beatles break up. Why not just replace the lads again with other look alikes that you can further control?
Why get rid of John? and if it was a replacement John who was killed, What if the original John showed up today with his story? No one would believe him. He would just be another kook who looks like John trying to make a name for himself.
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Post by Huxleys_halo on Dec 8, 2014 18:45:11 GMT -5
Maybe killing Stu was all part of the mythology? They really were "tragic heroes" in many ways, especially John, who by age 20 had had his mother die, his father-figure uncle die, and his best friend, as well as the other horrors of his childhood. (By the way, have you heard thie bizarre theory Stu didn't really die and actually became Andy Warhol?!)
Maybe with Pete, they couldn't find enough doubles, or the cloning they were doing on him went wrong?!
I've been watching a few Youtube vids showing consistent descrepancies in height, limb length, eyebrows and ears, in all of the boys and starting from their teens. I don't believe "the Beatles never existed" as such, but I'm starting to think there probably were multiple doubles used from the start, and the "backstories" we have for each member may not be entirely truthful or accurate.
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Post by NothingIsReal1985 on Dec 11, 2014 20:30:40 GMT -5
I know what you mean also, that the "Beatles" where like a live play where different people are just actors playing the part of the lads. A little like Milli vanilli who were front men lip sinking. But then you still have the question of Why replace Pete Best get rid of Stu and bring in Ringo. Why not just get a replacement for those like you did with Paul? Why bring in a new Paul in the first place to have the Fabulous Beatles break up. Why not just replace the lads again with other look alikes that you can further control? Why get rid of John? and if it was a replacement John who was killed, What if the original John showed up today with his story? No one would believe him. He would just be another kook who looks like John trying to make a name for himself. Milli Vanilli most likely pissed TPTB off, so they decided to get back at them with that publicity stunt that not only humiliated and embarrassed the living daylights outta them, but it was the end of their career altogether. (Who knows, they were likely murdered and impostor-replaced shortly after that incident to silence them.) I know that many either have Ringo as their either their least favorite Beatle or dislike him -- partially b/c of his sub-par drumming skills -- altogether I feel differently. I like him as much as the rest of The Beatles -- and happen to find him attractive with his large, pretty, droopy blue eyes and 1,000-watt pearly-white grin -- and honestly couldn't see Pete Best hitting pay-dirt along w/ the other 3 lads as much as I could Ringo. [There's a thread up here somewhere explaining further as to why Ringo was made a more permanent fixture for The Beatles.] I do know that those rings on his fingers -- likely a part of his image as per created by band's/brand's management, record label and handlers -- represent the Rings of Saturn. As for the reasons for the replacement of Pete Best w/ Ringo... the situation could be similar in regards to The Beatles handlers doing some sort of focus group social experiment back in mid-1964 when they attempted to replace Ringo Starr w/ Jimmy Nichol when he had a tonsillectomy. {Was the tonsillitis a mere smokescreen thrown up to cover up the fact that Ringo had been murdered? Yet another unsolved mystery in my collective books.} The original Ringo -- in addition to the original George -- was replaced with cloned copies of themselves anyhow (unfortunately). Regarding John -- the original one, if he was still alive; or even if he came back from the dead -- you're right about that. Truth is stranger than fiction and the Illuminati has set things up as to if people DID attempt to reveal the truth and prove something like this then most people would become furious, mock and make fun of them, thinking they were insane. Earlier this week a rabid Josh Groban fan had responded to a comment I made on YouTube under the ORIGINAL Josh Groban's first video ["To Where You Are" (2001)] about him disappearing -- and very possibly being ritually murdered in cold blood back in 2003 -- and being replaced with one crop after another of horrendous, arrogant, unattractive impostors who have taken over & bore his identity ever since. After I explained myself her claws came out and she called me an IDIOT, telling me to SHUT UP 3 times, accusing me of spreading "false rumors" about Josh Groban -- a vocalist and Los Angeles native -- being dead. She also went on to say that she knew for a FACT that the fake Josh Groban was NOT a double because she'd seen him in concert. Moreover she went on to tell me that I didn't know what I was talking about b/c I'd never seen him in person, blah, blah, blah. I went on to tell her that I could NEVER spend my precious money to see someone in concert -- as well as support them in other ways, such as buying their merchandise and music -- who was pretending to be someone else he's CLEARLY NOT (like the current Fingo Farr{s} & Faul McFartney{s}). It's bad enough to spend your life living a lie... but what adds insult to injury is that these celebrities go around grossly, totally, utterly & gravely deceiving their fans by hijacking the identities of their original counterparts. But unfortunately when they get tired of playing along they become dead-set on revealing the truth; but their lives are snuffed out [thus them being silenced] before they can go public with their confessions. After sending her another long, clear explanation of what I felt happened to the original Josh Groban -- in addition to how I felt about the situation, as well as her vehement incredulity -- I didn't get a response back. I could careless whether or not she gets back to me because I know I did MY part (doing all I could knew to do) and quite frankly I don't have any more time & energy to waste arguing with skeptics like her who obvious REFUSE to believe the truth, in spite of being presented CONCRETE, beyond-the-shadow-of-ANY-doubt evidence. I also noticed that this individual DID NOT demand evidence from me -- after strongly stating that I could prove my case, of course -- mainly b/c she knew deep down inside her subconscious & her heart-of-hearts that I was telling the TRUTH. Furthermore she was absolutely TERRIFIED of what she would have discovered should she dug deep enough into my claims [and discovered that I was RIGHT after all & that she was WRONG], which she apparently had NO interest whatsoever in doing. Instead, she wanted instead to keep this "Josh Groban"/Fosh Froban impostor up on this imaginary pedestal, believing this illusion/delusion he was PERFECT & can do NO wrong, and that humankind can NEVER be this cruel to other human beings. {What the HELL does seeing an impostor double in concert, let alone meeting them backstage have to do with the price of eggs in China, especially knowing whether or not they are the real deal?! Many Beatles fans have met the Fohn Fennons, Faul McFartneys, Feorge Farrisons & Fringo Farrs in person and were NONE the wiser that they were NOT the original individuals.}
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Post by NothingIsReal1985 on Dec 11, 2014 20:51:18 GMT -5
Maybe killing Stu was all part of the mythology? They really were "tragic heroes" in many ways, especially John, who by age 20 had had his mother die, his father-figure uncle die, and his best friend, as well as the other horrors of his childhood. (By the way, have you heard thie bizarre theory Stu didn't really die and actually became Andy Warhol?!) Maybe with Pete, they couldn't find enough doubles, or the cloning they were doing on him went wrong?! I've been watching a few Youtube vids showing consistent descrepancies in height, limb length, eyebrows and ears, in all of the boys and starting from their teens. I don't believe "the Beatles never existed" as such, but I'm starting to think there probably were multiple doubles used from the start, and the "backstories" we have for each member may not be entirely truthful or accurate. Thanks for including the link to yet another cons;piracy board; it's a godsend -- and it even gets updated regularly! -- b/c it's no longer possible to join the Döppels boards (which are no longer regularly updated). But neither do I care to join the PID Hoop.la boards b/c I had a horrendous experience over there earlier this year. Ever since Tina Foster -- the woman who owns the Plastic Macca blog -- gave it over to these two bitches (that are apparently on some sort of power-&-ego trip, not to mention that they apparently lack a sense of humor, as they have telephone poles up their asses) the cool, funny, relaxed atmosphere all but disappeared. I was also falsely accused of stupid, petty things -- and eventually banned -- from that place for no apparent reason. I don't have leeway to discuss cloning [especially of The Beatles & Featles] over there -- as they resent that sort of subject matter for some reason or another, most likely because they're controlled opposition working for Military Intelligence & thus trying to suppress the truth about cloning -- so {although tempting} I don't really plan on going back there to join; my time would be better spent on more important things. I already have a friend I can discuss this matter in-depth with, anyhow. One CANNOT discuss doubles/multiples & replacements of The Beatles & Featle w/o bringing cloning into the picture; it just wouldn't make ANY sense whatsoever. This repla-CIA-ment business not only has occured with The Beatles, it's happened to countless other celebrities, politicians, statesmen/women & various other public figures {from the A-list to the Z-list} long before AND after them, as well. It's a rather dark, disturbing, evil, wicked -- yet VERY predictable -- pattern that's been happening right under our collective noses for SO long, and it's about HIGH TIME the truth be made know about this mess. And you're also VERY much correct about the back stories of these celebrities being either unknown, of questionable veracity or even false altogether. MOST -- if not ALL -- the details concerning these people's lives are are just that... all smoke-&-mirrors, and out-&-right bold-faced, bald-headed LIE. What we -- the herd of sheeple -- see externally either only scratches the surface or is a VERY deceptive façade altogether. I felt SO betrayed when I discovered what the ugly, naked truth REALLY was.
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Post by seasaltcaramel on Dec 12, 2014 4:53:21 GMT -5
I was also falsely accused of stupid, petty things -- and eventually banned -- from that place for no apparent reason. I don't have leeway to discuss cloning [especially of The Beatles & Featles) over there -- as they resent that sort of subject matter for some reason or another, most likely because they're controlled opposition working for Military Intelligence & thus trying to suppress the truth about cloning Hehehe I have this drink called the "Tricky Dicky Screwdriver" you might like it: "It's got one part Jack Daniels, two parts purple Kool-Aid, and a jigger of formaldehyde from the jar with Hitler's brain in it we got in the back storeroom." And let's not forget the nano-bot fibers that disintegrate in your blood stream and attach to the synapses in your brain turning you into a automaton. The Dead Kennedys - We've Got Bigger Problems Now William Burroughs: "The madman you see running down the street with a guy picking people off is the sorry individual that just figured out what's going on." Don't be that guy, you paranoiac bastard... "I am Emperor Ronald Reagan Born again with fascist cravings Still, you made me president Human rights will soon go 'way I am now your Shah today Now I command all of you Now you're going to pray in school I'll make sure they're Christian too California Uber alles Uber alles California" Lest we forget Ronald Reagan was an actor. I'm onto you...
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Dec 13, 2014 21:05:43 GMT -5
I've been into this for almost 11 years and I've seen so many sites come and go. I think this has remained out of the originals. I think part of the problem of those sites are either the fact that after so long of researching this subject, one gets weary and trying to debate the fools who still want to maintain the imposter who is posing as Sir Faul is the real Paul. When the dingbats (and I'll be polite to even go that far to call them that) who join forums and blogs and post totally irrelevant material and babble ridiculous anti PID or anti replacement you get sick of the crap. I used to be an administrator to the orginal PID miss him, miss him, but there were "trolls" who got on there and totally ruined it. Tina had been on that site as well, the orginal woman who started the site, called Mommybird, had resigned from posting on any of the sights because she got tired of being banned from sights defending PID, and she just was weary of realizing it was not only Paul being replaced but the others, and I think she just had enough. When that site died and the hoopla version came out, it wasn't as good and I stopped being part of it. I was a regular poster in the Doppleganger, but it dried up. In the early days, I visisted the King is Naked site and read from it alot, but I didn't post much there. There was also a site called Revolution #9 that was a sister site of that. In the older days, when you got on one forum, they had links to other like ones, and they were linked with NIR. Anyhow, one of the orginal defenders of truth died from cancer years ago, she was friends with the Mommybird, and I think that didn't help when she lost her friend. So I don't know if those who originally defended this, which would have been about 2 years before I caught onto it, died off, or got ill and couldn't keep up, or just got tired of fighting the snot nosed trolls.
So the amount of realization that most of what is "out there" isn't real, but staged, that the players get replaced along the way. But it's a curious thing that some bands will just get new members like the Rolling Stones got Mick Taylor instead of JOnes, or later getting Ron Wood, but why perpetuate Faul? It's as if he is King Arthur and nobody dare touch the "anointed one". Don't know.
I think it's one of two things, they find really good actors, OR....they get people they can manipulate through mind control....or both....They have a huge organization that not only includes "handlers", but stylists, plastic surgeons, and psychiatrists who can alter minds....really mind boggling...
They were not the "organic" band of just 4 guys from Liverpool. I also think that Hamburg was a cover for the mind control programming by the Nazi era handlers and programmers....People came and went in the show, like Stu, Pete, and even as far as their "friends" or co horts...Mal, Neil and even Derek Taylor....anyone and anything....magic Alex, or whoever the band of strange connections....even the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi...all participants in the program...
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Post by Huxleys_halo on Dec 14, 2014 8:40:52 GMT -5
Interesting comment about King Arthur, Rita, for "McCartney" means "son of Arthur" and he has been linked to Arthurian legend by some quite compelling research: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNRvnZ8ke6wHis eldest grandon is even called... Arthur!
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Dec 14, 2014 21:46:53 GMT -5
Arthur...was the firstborn son of King Uther PenDRAGON and heir to the throne. However these were very troubled times and Merlin a wise MAGICIAN advised that the baby Arthur should be raised in a SECRET PLACE that none should know HIS TRUE IDENTITY...Arthur's base was set at a place called Camelot...they searched for a lost treasure...the Holy Grail...
Dragon...magician...secret true identity....the son of the beast...Crowley...his true identity kept in secret place....
Gee...I hadn't thought about that when I mentioned that name...what secrets are kept of true identity of our King Arthur in question...indeed...of course, the secrets kept on the advice of old magician....
Who are you King Bill Arthur??
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Post by Huxleys_halo on Dec 15, 2014 14:17:27 GMT -5
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Feb 21, 2015 9:13:33 GMT -5
I was also falsely accused of stupid, petty things -- and eventually banned -- from that place for no apparent reason. I don't have leeway to discuss cloning [especially of The Beatles & Featles) over there -- as they resent that sort of subject matter for some reason or another, most likely because they're controlled opposition working for Military Intelligence & thus trying to suppress the truth about cloning Hehehe I have this drink called the "Tricky Dicky Screwdriver" you might like it: "It's got one part Jack Daniels, two parts purple Kool-Aid, and a jigger of formaldehyde from the jar with Hitler's brain in it we got in the back storeroom." And let's not forget the nano-bot fibers that disintegrate in your blood stream and attach to the synapses in your brain turning you into a automaton. The Dead Kennedys - We've Got Bigger Problems Now William Burroughs: "The madman you see running down the street with a guy picking people off is the sorry individual that just figured out what's going on." Don't be that guy, you paranoiac bastard... "I am Emperor Ronald Reagan Born again with fascist cravings Still, you made me president Human rights will soon go 'way I am now your Shah today Now I command all of you Now you're going to pray in school I'll make sure they're Christian too California Uber alles Uber alles California" Lest we forget Ronald Reagan was an actor. I'm onto you...
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Post by cherilyn7 on Apr 14, 2015 15:25:20 GMT -5
I know what you mean Max, but perhaps something a little darker was going on with the Beatles, and the back stories of the boys was merely invention? Maybe a John Lennon of Liverpool who's parents split up leaving him to leave with his Aunt Mimi, never actually existed? There was a real John Winston Lennon who went to live with Aunt Mimi but his childhood was not deprived, contrary to the fairy story some people wish to perpetuate. I do, however, think that they existed with doubles (stand ins) being interwoven at times in the early years. It would have been impossible for them to keep up the rigorous schedule/lifestyle and never get tired or ill and, in fact, all top Hollywood stars, politicians, Presidents and Royalty have always had these "stand ins". There was a film made in the 'fifties called "I was Monty's Double" in which an actor was asked to play the part of Field Marshall Montgomery to fool the Germans. After 1966 The Beatles changed in so many ways, if you look closely at the footage and other evidence it is easy to see that they were replaced and I think this included wives.
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Post by essence on Apr 15, 2015 17:15:22 GMT -5
Cherilyn, I agree with you. I also see that all four were replaced. PID is a red herring. Wives and some of the relatives were replaced too. Real Beatles DID exist. They co-existed with doubles since signing with EMI untill a certain period, then they dissapeared. I think they were eliminated. Most of the "legends" about The Beatles, like the one about John's childhood, are false. I am glad to find out there are other people who see all these things too.
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Post by bandi on Aug 31, 2015 0:13:18 GMT -5
Essence, what makes you feel they were eliminated ? I'm not challenging you I'm just curious as to why you feel that way. As for cloning, I think this is what's up. Besides the www.thebeatlesneverexisted.com web site there are many videos about cloning on YT. There is even a few vids on you tube that clearly show what the ptb were up to in the 1930's. What I'm talking about is a Betty Boop cartoon that is about this topic. They were showing us what they were doing way, way back even then. If you can find the vid that I'm talking about, there are other videos linked to it. The problem seems to be that when you finally accept that they were cloning people in power for as long or longer than we can imagine, you tend to want to talk about this with others. And if you're like me, you'll not choose wisely who you try to talk about this with. I keep thinking (well not anymore) that people want to know about this stuff and they don't. They'll look at you like you're crazy, call you names and laugh at you (that is guaranteed). What that does is it discourages you from looking for others who really want to know about this kind of stuff. The nice lady who runs TBNE has done comparisons and clearly shows that there were at least a dozen and maybe more Paul McCartneys before they even hit it big in 1964. You can browse the comparisons yourself, agree or disagree, it's up to you. The enlightening information is there for anyone to see but you have to leave your beliefs and conditioning behind when you start studying the comparisons.
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Post by maxedison on Aug 31, 2015 9:59:07 GMT -5
I've been away from the PID PWR thing for a while ....... Here is the point. We all know Something is going on....Does not matter which side you are on. Why would "They" do any of this. Distraction. Take your thoughts away from what is important and have you do research to solve the "Mystery". Smoke and Mirrors. Just like a lot of you have mentioned before. "Why do the answers not show up?" They keep changing the game to keep you searching or fighting among yourselves. Someone mentioned earlier that no one would be that cruel..... Take a look around at what is happening in the world today.....Fooling us about some celebrity is NOTHING. Turning us against each other or distracting us in one way or another is the PLAN..... Divide and conquer. But WHO?....... Take a look at history.....A good look.....behind the scenes...... The same thing has been happening forever......Good Vs Evil. You have a society who seems to be getting along O.K. People are helping people.... Life is good....You relax a little. Bad guys come in and start getting people to not trust each other....going from person to person saying things about different people in the group.....Anything to get them arguing .. distract them.....Once the people are sufficiently distracted and fighting with each other...... That is when the Conquerers strike..... The ONES WHO ARE REALLY BENT ON CONQUEST AND CONTROL.. And yes the plan takes a long time....They are patient.....One more hint....The little guys they make you afraid of are just another distraction to keep you from thinking about the BIG guys....... We need to pull together again Quick ..... What ever country you are in....It does not matter..... the same thing is happening..... Pull together....Help each other...... No one PERSON is Better than another Person because of ANY differences... The Bad guys do not care about People at all.. If you think it is Bad now.....You ain't seen nothing if they Win.....
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Post by ramone on Aug 20, 2016 14:40:38 GMT -5
So, how are we to take these words? Whether or not one puts much stock into Apollo C. Vermouth's expressions they always seem to intrigue.
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Post by Rubber Soul on Oct 18, 2017 19:51:02 GMT -5
Hey Guys I'm having trouble Joining the Beatles never existed Forum, Anyone Know what's going on?
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Post by beatlas231 on Oct 20, 2017 10:47:02 GMT -5
Hey Guys I'm having trouble Joining the Beatles never existed Forum, Anyone Know what's going on? Maybe you’re a time traveler and you’re just finding out that you wisked right back in time & the forum is still yet to exist?!?!?!?!?!? Where is my telephone & and who put my brain in this mass glass time controller - DAMN YOU RINGO!!!
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Post by uglycustard on Oct 29, 2017 6:47:59 GMT -5
I'm the real george Harrison
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Post by beatlas231 on Oct 29, 2017 9:48:35 GMT -5
I'm the real george Harrison I'm the real george Harrison Awwww, aren’t you just adorable... Don’t we have quite a bit of candy on us, already - it’s not even noon! Take care now, and you make sure to tell your father to monitor that candy ! Have a great day, George ! — “what?” “That was Harry’s Son, George!” “Damn TeleMarketers” “Are you coming back to play this Bingo?”
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Post by Rubber Soul on Oct 29, 2017 11:42:32 GMT -5
I'm the real george Harrison I think we have a troll in our midst. Mods? B@jojo@redlion
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