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Post by astro4 on Dec 15, 2014 18:24:20 GMT -5
George Martin recollected:
Summer of love, the Making of Sgt Pepper, 1994, p.86. Martin must here be alluding to Faul. The two first collaborated on Faul's return from Kenya in November 1966, writing the score for 'The Family Way.' Faul would hum somethng then Martin wold play it on the piano then write it down. Paul had learnt to play the piano at his family’s home, his musical father Jim McCartney taught him. Jim had an upright piano at his home in the Forthlin Road front room – which he had purchased from Harry Epstein's North End Music Store. Paul would often play the piano in Hamburg. |
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Post by Huxleys_halo on Dec 16, 2014 0:00:00 GMT -5
Yes, and Jane Asher's mother was a music teacher and was delighted by Paul's natural talent. She helped him get even better when he lived with the Ashers for a while. ------ www.beatlesbible.com/people/jane-asher/ |
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Post by astro4 on Dec 16, 2014 6:16:02 GMT -5
Here is Faul at piano with George Martin, November '66. I had always assumed that Faul could play the piano even tho he could not read or write sheet music (Martin is emphatic on this point). The two are composing 'the Family Way' musical.  |
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Dec 17, 2014 9:45:51 GMT -5
The question here is did the Real Paul play piano? We saw him in the Movie A Hard Days Night and Help at the keyboard, but he wasn't credited or ever seen perform a piano onstage. However, Bill/Faul does play piano. That's obvious and he's talented at the piano.
A note: In the Film "Help" during the video for "You're Gonna Lose That Girl" you see Paul standing and playing bass, singing into the mic with George, then a scene shows Paul? at piano....Or was this alluding to the fact that there was a fake Paul even that far back? This may have been discussed on another thread. But it serves to be a reminder of these things.
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Post by astro4 on Dec 26, 2014 18:36:41 GMT -5
THREE PIANOS In his last-ever interview, ( invanddis.proboards.com/thread/7688/last-interview ) with Melody Maker in the first week of September '66, Paul alludes to his new home in Cavendish Avenue being done up: That sounds like a fairly definite statement about Paul playing the piano. Then there is the story about his composing Yesterday at Wimpole St, that he fell out of bed with the melody in his mind and then played it on the piano, not yet knowing what the words were going to be. So he had a piano in his room. His father Jim a professional musician had the house piano in the Forthlin Road front room, that he purchased from Harry Epstein's North End Music Store (NEMS), where Brian Epstein was Harry's son. Its hard to imagine his son not learning the piano under these circumstances. So I'm driven (aargh) to the conclusion that George Martin must be lying. |
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Post by linus on Dec 28, 2014 22:03:11 GMT -5
Huxley & co. You might want to look into dear Mr. & Mrs. Asher. Particularly Mr. Asher in the context of McCartney dreaming the melody to Yesterday in full. A good place to start is Beacon's blog. beaconfilms2011.blogspot.com/ |
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Post by doll on Dec 29, 2014 17:38:42 GMT -5
The real Paul was killed in a car accident November 9, 1966. Faul replaced Paul and underwent many reconstructive surgeries.
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Post by iameye on Jan 2, 2015 12:15:28 GMT -5
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Post by Paul Bearer on Jan 14, 2015 6:10:18 GMT -5
No, September 11th 1966 is the death date.
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Post by maxedison on Jan 14, 2015 15:42:39 GMT -5
There are different levels of "Playing" music. Knowing basic chord shapes and chord progressions does not mean that one can "Play" to the level of George Martin's orchestration. That also does not mean that someone can not have a level that can achieve composing great songs using basic melodies. Even Beethoven's Symphonies can be reduced to a basic rhythm and chord progression that would serve a simple country song. And any good country song can be elaberated into a good symphony.
That also does not mean that George is not covering for Faul.
My guess on the Date is also Sept 11. That date keeps showing up in the strangest places.
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Post by LOVELYRITA on Jan 14, 2015 16:44:13 GMT -5
I agree that Sep 11th is a commonly used date for tragic events....or Illuminati sacrifices.
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Post by silverbeatle on Jan 15, 2015 1:15:43 GMT -5
On a related note, there is solid evidence that Jesus Christ was born on September 11th (as December 24th is Roman Sun God holiday). It could be that these wicked people that commit these evil deeds on September 11th do so as an affront to JC.
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Post by amonre on Jan 22, 2015 9:52:14 GMT -5
This performance of "You're going to lose that Girl" from "Help!" (1965) is very revealing. There are two "Pauls" in this scene...  one is playing the bass...  ...and another one playing the piano. |
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Post by maxedison on Jan 22, 2015 11:34:34 GMT -5
This performance of "You're going to lose that Girl" from "Help!" (1965) is very revealing. There are two "Pauls" in this scene... one is playing the bass... ...and another one playing the piano. If the video shows them both in the same scene you may have something there. But, just like any video you can have two or more recordings cut together to make it look like one continuous scene. So there is no proof of anything here. Not even proof that Paul was playing piano on the track because the song and the video were made at different times. What we see of them playing is lip synced to the audio recording not real time. I just checked that video and there is also a scene of Ringo playing drums and NO ONE at the piano. So this was a cut and paist(By the original producers in 65) to also show Paul playing piano. That is how they made movies even back then in the dark ages, Shoot several films and edit in and out what you like and do not like and sync the audio. |
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Post by NothingIsReal1985 on Jun 2, 2015 12:46:58 GMT -5
This performance of "You're going to lose that Girl" from "Help!" (1965) is very revealing. There are two "Pauls" in this scene... one is playing the bass... ...and another one playing the piano. After all, each Beatle had a twin in that film, and I've got photographic evidence, if anyone doubts. |
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Post by delysid on Sept 29, 2015 7:10:58 GMT -5
This performance of "You're going to lose that Girl" from "Help!" (1965) is very revealing. There are two "Pauls" in this scene... one is playing the bass... ...and another one playing the piano. After all, each Beatle had a twin in that film, and I've got photographic evidence, if anyone doubts. It's worse than that. I have a secret library of photographic and interview material which suggests that many stars of the silver screen had doppelgangers. They are sometimes called 'stand-ins', sometimes 'fall guys' (gettit?) and more recently 'body doubles'. I know this sounds totally wacko even by PID standards but it looks like Hollywood basically gets at least two of everybody who stars in a film! Except Elvis because he had a manager so stingy that he made Elvis play his own double! |
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Post by ekauqodielak on Aug 4, 2019 20:23:28 GMT -5
Maybe the Beatlemania-era Fauls didn't know how to play piano.
But, at least, one German Paul from spring of '61 sure did:
…I'd say those are two German Pauls, actually…unless, you believe the Paul in the light colored sweater both gained a jaw line and lost his left ear in less than 3 months and was still in the mood and health to play gigs.
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Post by kvo on Mar 7, 2022 13:18:30 GMT -5
Maybe the Beatlemania-era Fauls didn't know how to play piano. But, at least, one German Paul from spring of '61 sure did: …I'd say those are two German Pauls, actually…unless, you believe the Paul in the light colored sweater both gained a jaw line and lost his left ear in less than 3 months and was still in the mood and health to play gigs. Bumping this because light colored sweater Paul very clearly shows a weak jaw line from left profile, with a rather receded as opposed to a protruding chin. Our Beatlemania guy from the Help and Ticket to Ride videos, widely available on YouTube, shows a strong jaw line, left profile. Couldn't be the same guy. Saw a YouTube video where someone hypothesizes that light colored sweater Paul is our caretaker guy, John Halliday. Apparently, the channel owner came to this conclusion by comparing Halliday's left profile chin and jaw line to light colored sweater Paul. Nah, I didn't see a match. But I do think that Halliday was in the Paul mix at some point in a limited capacity. |
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Post by ekauqodielak on Mar 7, 2022 13:23:20 GMT -5
Maybe the Beatlemania-era Fauls didn't know how to play piano. But, at least, one German Paul from spring of '61 sure did: …I'd say those are two German Pauls, actually…unless, you believe the Paul in the light colored sweater both gained a jaw line and lost his left ear in less than 3 months and was still in the mood and health to play gigs. Bumping this because light colored sweater Paul very clearly shows a weak jaw line from left profile, with a rather receded as opposed to a protruding chin. Our Beatlemania guy from the Help and Ticket to Ride videos, widely available on YouTube, shows a strong jaw line, left profile. Couldn't be the same guy. Saw a YouTube video where someone hypothesizes that light colored sweater Paul is our caretaker guy, John Halliday. Apparently, the channel owner came to this conclusion by comparing Halliday's left profile chin and jaw line to light colored sweater Paul. Nah, I didn't see a match. But I do think that Halliday was in the Paul mix at some point in a limited capacity. Halliday has been confusing for me, too. Those Beatlemania era wigs/cuts sure did well to hide the ears. I agree he was in the mix at some point, too, but haven’t found a match — haven’t dedicated to looking for a match, either, but…Those very low set ears he has are problematic & I do think he looks as though he had some type of facial reconstruction following an accident. |
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Post by joseph on Mar 7, 2022 13:32:42 GMT -5
Question I'm asking: was George Martin replaced?
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Post by B on Mar 7, 2022 21:21:08 GMT -5
If I become a first lieutenant Would you put my photo on your piano? To Maryjane (Paul)Best wishes, Martin. Punky's Dilemmayoutu.be/tI3svf3___E |
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Post by kvo on Mar 8, 2022 10:42:16 GMT -5
Anybody think the Paul in this Geraldo interview promoting the 1976 Wings tour is the same Paul that appeared on the stage? Both the Paul and Linda in the interview behaved like they were...baked. Kept acting like they were confusing Geraldo with Tony Orlando and Freddie Prinze. But the Paul that appeared on the stage during the Wings tour looked as though he could play piano quite well, I notice. I'm thinking a small Paul appeared publicly in interviews, then a different, larger man, took the stage. www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRB-ZaQYSk4 |
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Post by kvo on Mar 18, 2022 17:12:32 GMT -5
Maybe the Beatlemania-era Fauls didn't know how to play piano. But, at least, one German Paul from spring of '61 sure did: …I'd say those are two German Pauls, actually…unless, you believe the Paul in the light colored sweater both gained a jaw line and lost his left ear in less than 3 months and was still in the mood and health to play gigs. And I just noticed that on the “Something New” (old) Beatles album is a selection titled Komm Gib Mir Dein Hand. German. I Wanna Hold Your Hand. So I looked it up. The story goes that the Beatles were told to learn the song singing German phonetically because a German EMI producer convinced Epstein they wouldn’t sell records in Germany unless they did. They apparently also released Can’t Buy me Love in German. Why German? Any other Beatles songs recorded in languages besides English? Aside from parts of Michelle? |
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Post by ramone on Mar 18, 2022 23:05:14 GMT -5
I knew about Hand and Sie liebt dich (she loves you) and that's all I'm aware of. Maybe there's more. Who knows.
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Post by kvo on Mar 21, 2022 16:19:49 GMT -5
I knew about Hand and Sie liebt dich (she loves you) and that's all I'm aware of. Maybe there's more. Who knows. Thanks Ramone. I found out about She Love You after I wrote my post. I also found out that the Beatles were not the only artists to record in German. Apparently, Johnny Cash recorded a German version of Walk the Line. Why GERMAN with these artists? And does anyone know whether the Beatles recorded in any other languages besides German and English (with the exception of parts of Michelle)? So far, I've found no reference to The Beatles recording in any languages except German and English. |
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