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Post by chica on Aug 8, 2017 22:13:15 GMT -5
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Post by silverbeatle on Aug 9, 2017 2:27:07 GMT -5
Chica, your posts are excellent.
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Post by chica on Aug 9, 2017 10:39:13 GMT -5
Chica, your posts are excellent. Oh My Gosh! Thank you silverbeatle. You know I'm on the computer every and I mean every day looking for things. I've been researching for about 2yrs. I think the thing that turned all this around for me was when I found the 1963 pictures of Paul? in the street heel shoes. That just blew me away and what's the funny thing is I hadn't noticed the shoes, I had concentrated on the face and had the pictures a couple of months. Again, thank you for your kind comment.
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Post by chica on Aug 9, 2017 13:10:37 GMT -5
"In December 1963, McCartney took up residence at Asher's family Wimpole Street town house and stayed there until the couple moved into McCartney's own home located in St John's Wood in 1966" (click #4 Personal life on the link) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_AsherI find it odd that Paul? moved in with the Asher's, the story goes that he liked home cooked meals. He was rich enough to hire a cook for that.
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Post by chica on Aug 9, 2017 13:34:03 GMT -5
"In 1964 it was decided that the patients in the mental observation ward at the Central Middlesex Hospital would come under the care of a psychiatrist. Asher immediately resigned his post at the hospital and virtually gave up medical practice." (Go to the second section the last paragraph). www.rsm.ac.uk/media/1394213/015_-_richard_asher__1912-1969__a_celebration_3rd_nov_2014_-_24_jan_2015.pdfSo, we have Paul moving in in Dec. of 1963 and Asher resigning from the hospital and giving up his medical practice in 1964. Seems to me the Asher home would have been a great place to hide a sick Beatle.
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Post by silverbeatle on Aug 9, 2017 14:44:48 GMT -5
I agree with you Chica that the early Paul McCarteney seems to have been shorter, have you heard of John Halliday? He is short and looks very much like the early pre-1964 Paul McCartney. I don't know who made this video but they did a good job at comparing the two. www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmuV5Z2H4Aw
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Post by chica on Aug 9, 2017 15:18:50 GMT -5
I agree with you Chica that the early Paul McCarteney seems to have been shorter, have you heard of John Halliday? He is short and looks very much like the early pre-1964 Paul McCartney. I don't know who made this video but they did a good job at comparing the two. www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmuV5Z2H4AwTake look at this one. www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXmcmzF_3Fk
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Post by chica on Aug 9, 2017 15:21:32 GMT -5
Had to laugh, someone was making a big deal out of the fact that Paul was taller than John in this picture. Since John is standing in a ditch is it any wonder?
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Post by chica on Aug 9, 2017 17:46:01 GMT -5
The thing about using lifts is it will not lengthen a person's limbs.
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Post by chica on Aug 9, 2017 22:15:31 GMT -5
William Walters Sargant (24 April 1907 – 27 August 1988) was a British psychiatrist who is remembered for the evangelical zeal with which he promoted treatments such as psychosurgery, deep sleep treatment, electroconvulsive therapy and insulin shock therapy. In recent years writer Gordon Thomas has suggested that Sargant's experiments with deep sleep treatment were part of British involvement with the CIA MKULTRA programme into mind control.[39] Donald Ewen Cameron was experimenting along similar lines in Canada, and it later emerged that his work was in part funded by the CIA.[40] Cameron often sought Sargant's advice and on one occasion Sargant sent Cameron a note saying: "Whatever you manage in this field, I thought of it first".[41] Books about Cameron's experiments have commented on links between the two psychiatrists.[42] Although Sargant acted as a consultant for MI5, no evidence has emerged that his work with deep sleep treatment at St Thomas' hospital had any links with intelligence services. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_SargantIt has been implied that Asher may have been involved with him. It is also known that deep sleep treatment implemented the use of putting microphones under the pillows of patients as they slept and didn't Paul say that is how he came up with Yesterday in his sleep at the Asher home? ----------------------------------------------------- In recent years there have been attempts to link Sargant’s experiments with the CIA’s mind control programme, MKULTRA. Sargant certainly had dealings with Ewan Cameron, the Scottish-American psychiatrist whose experiments with deep sleep treatment and ECT were later found to have been financed in part by the CIA. For example, Cameron wrote an introduction to one of Sargant’s books. ectstatistics.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/william-sargent-deep-sleep-treatment-and-ect
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Post by chica on Aug 9, 2017 22:16:49 GMT -5
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Post by sniffer on Aug 10, 2017 12:39:47 GMT -5
Despite the heel manipulation in '63' there are pictures from '63' that show that Paul was shorter than John. While touring with Gerry and the Pacemakers on July 22nd 1963, the Beatles had a visit from photographer Dezo Hoffman. He took photos and filmed the band riding go karts and fooling around in Victorian pyjamas, on Brean Down beach, Somerset; in Weston-super-Mare. He's just a little bit taller than Ringo. umm, seems to me quite obvious that John is a couple of steps ahead of Paul in this pic, thus making height comparison by it kind of a moot point. In fact, that is kind of the problem with most height comparisons. That's why you need to put ppl against a wall when you measure their height
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Post by chica on Aug 10, 2017 13:54:44 GMT -5
Despite the heel manipulation in '63' there are pictures from '63' that show that Paul was shorter than John. While touring with Gerry and the Pacemakers on July 22nd 1963, the Beatles had a visit from photographer Dezo Hoffman. He took photos and filmed the band riding go karts and fooling around in Victorian pyjamas, on Brean Down beach, Somerset; in Weston-super-Mare. He's just a little bit taller than Ringo. umm, seems to me quite obvious that John is a couple of steps ahead of Paul in this pic, thus making height comparison by it kind of a moot point. In fact, that is kind of the problem with most height comparisons. That's why you need to put ppl against a wall when you measure their height I'm comparing him with Ringo in that picture. Their both the same distance behind John. We know it's an absolute fact that Ringo was shorter than John.
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Post by sommer on Aug 10, 2017 18:09:32 GMT -5
William Walters Sargant (24 April 1907 – 27 August 1988) was a British psychiatrist who is remembered for the evangelical zeal with which he promoted treatments such as psychosurgery, deep sleep treatment, electroconvulsive therapy and insulin shock therapy. In recent years writer Gordon Thomas has suggested that Sargant's experiments with deep sleep treatment were part of British involvement with the CIA MKULTRA programme into mind control.[39] Donald Ewen Cameron was experimenting along similar lines in Canada, and it later emerged that his work was in part funded by the CIA.[40] Cameron often sought Sargant's advice and on one occasion Sargant sent Cameron a note saying: "Whatever you manage in this field, I thought of it first".[41] Books about Cameron's experiments have commented on links between the two psychiatrists.[42] Although Sargant acted as a consultant for MI5, no evidence has emerged that his work with deep sleep treatment at St Thomas' hospital had any links with intelligence services. It has been implied that Asher may have been involved with him. It is also known that deep sleep treatment implemented the use of putting microphones under the pillows of patients as they slept and didn't Paul say that is how he came up with Yesterday in his sleep at the Asher home? ----------------------------------------------------- In recent years there have been attempts to link Sargant’s experiments with the CIA’s mind control programme, MKULTRA. Sargant certainly had dealings with Ewan Cameron, the Scottish-American psychiatrist whose experiments with deep sleep treatment and ECT were later found to have been financed in part by the CIA. For example, Cameron wrote an introduction to one of Sargant’s books. ectstatistics.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/william-sargent-deep-sleep-treatment-and-ect
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Post by chica on Aug 10, 2017 21:47:09 GMT -5
Paul was very small and was about as tall as Ringo.
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Post by chica on Aug 10, 2017 21:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by chica on Aug 11, 2017 10:29:11 GMT -5
Here we go again the guy with the street heels. John is wearing Beatle boot heels and still this Paul? is taller than him.
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Post by chica on Aug 11, 2017 13:45:40 GMT -5
I've been looking at this picture for a long time and have come to the conclusion that it is JPM. What could have caused his face to droop? One could be Bell's Paulsy, stroke, or as this woman says at 1:14 that after people have electro shock they can look like they have had a stroke. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwpksqRr7cU
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Post by B on Aug 11, 2017 20:58:11 GMT -5
bump
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Post by chica on Aug 11, 2017 22:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by chica on Aug 11, 2017 22:06:13 GMT -5
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Post by whammo on Aug 25, 2017 21:31:47 GMT -5
Why would a 5'11" tall man feel the need to use lifts?
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Post by chica on Sept 3, 2017 1:33:17 GMT -5
Why would a 5'11" tall man feel the need to use lifts? A shorter guy might.
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Post by kvo on Mar 18, 2022 10:24:45 GMT -5
I've been looking at this picture for a long time and have come to the conclusion that it is JPM. What could have caused his face to droop? One could be Bell's Paulsy, stroke, or as this woman says at 1:14 that after people have electro shock they can look like they have had a stroke. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwpksqRr7cU<button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> I see that Letter B bumped this thread on "Deception as Early as 1963" once already, and I am bumping it again. Chica has made some excellent points here concerning height differences early on, occurring right about the time the band began to gain traction and world-wide attention. Other posters to this board over the years have noted this as well. I had always assumed that the photo Chica posted here of Paul was somehow tampered, creating a composite face. But I see Chica's point that this Paul could have been subjected to electro therapies widely used at the time, though their effects were not well understood. I cannot concur with Chica's assessment of the Paul in this photo being "JPM" because it seems to me that other Pauls preceded him. But I believe that Chica may well be correct that the Paul in the photo could have been abused by unknown forces intent on creating the GOAT band. I watched a documentary program the other night concerning a group of young Russian students who embarked on an exploration in Siberia during the 1950s. Accompanying them, with no clear explanation for his presence, was an older man with a Russian intelligence background. They were all found dead by indigenous people who were the only populous in this barren area, aside from the Siberian prison population. Over decades, a number of theories developed to explain their demise and the condition of the bodies: Possible nuclear experimentation; an avalanche; mass murder by an escaped prisoner; murdered by the those who reported finding the bodies; animal attacks, etc...However, no single theory explained everything that was found. So some now theorize that a combination of factors worked together to explain the death of these students, and the condition of their bodies. It occurred to me that we have the same situation with "Beatles". I had been working toward trying to develop a singular theory that might explain all that has been noted on this board throughout the years. However, no single theory seems to explain it all away. Rather, we are seeing a convergence of influencing factors and factions. And we all know what those factors/factions could be. The crown, religious influences (masonry), Tavistock, MI6/CIA Intelligence, medical experimentation, even Neo-Naziism. An avalanche of simultaneous and sometimes linear events. Perhaps warring factions intent on getting a piece of the pie. No wonder we are still discussing this decades after the Beatles' official demise. Okay, I got it. I'll call it my avalanche theory!
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