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Post by mommybird on Apr 26, 2008 12:16:48 GMT -5
I think socash meant "prophet" not profit. Socash, were just trying to be funny This is with only reading some of the posts here. But, I take exception to what socash wrote here: I can probably get you a good deal on internet-retard-tough-guy-anger-management classes if you r interested. I got some smart buddies. Why is he attacking Jude I looked over most of what Jude wrote prior to that comment, and I don't see anything warranting that kind of remark... I know that this has already been dealt with by JoJo. However, I am still having a very hard time trying to understand what happened between Jude & socash. I don't understand what Jude said that could've provoked that kind of response from him
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Post by blackbird on Apr 26, 2008 12:48:06 GMT -5
WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE !!! why is SOCASH on such an ATTACK with JUDE? I don't know what happened from the beginning I just know this was very upsetting! To me it seems like Jude has a lot to share so I don't understand why this is happening. {{ I know I don't know the full extent of what has happened here but... }} I just feel like there are some people around who may JUST KNOW MORE about what is happening and what has happened in the past and *I* want to hear what they have to say. I said a long time ago that I thought there was a lot of time and money in these videos and I was corrected - by a much more aware and knowledgeable Youtuber. But I know these cannot be easy to produce and then there is the traveling and where are ALL these photos, sound tracks coming from. . . a BEATLE's MANIAC, who has collected every piece of anything over the years. Then there is the skill of selecting and putting together - to me an expert at what he does. I know I will be called down for my stupid remarks because I "don't know" or I "don't Understand" about this or that. And you will be right, I DON'T KNOW and I certainly DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL. . . . . this is only from my perspective. I just want this to go back to a form of members who are looking for the truth and to be a little open to the ideas and thoughts of others -
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Post by George Spiggott on Apr 26, 2008 13:32:00 GMT -5
Like JoJo said, we have to stop this, do this in your own private time but not publicly! and not in my topics, please. thank you Sheep Milting. Mirror ! ... OK ... SO SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IN IAAP ... SOME PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE IN IAAP ... SOME PEOPLE AREN'T SURE ABOUT IAAP ... ... . How can anyone seriously believe in IAAP, without an agenda, or even a hint of an agenda regarding 'his' intended purpose on this issue? What will undoubtedly ensue, if 'his' motivation & agenda is not revealed, is that a huge number of people who were once extremely passionate about the subject of PID, will become a group of disorientated fence-sitters.. Anyone stumbling across this forum for the 1st time, will be put off by the bickering, chat-room style format recently adopted, whilst any new clues or pointers since Neil's death, are conveniently over-shadowed. Faith is one thing, 'Blind Faith' is another.
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 26, 2008 14:16:59 GMT -5
As you know, socash, I have communicated my feelings to you about all this privately.
Publicly, I have nothing more to say.
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Post by The Deceptionist on Apr 26, 2008 15:33:14 GMT -5
Well if you're requesting an ignore function simply because I called the question stupid, then shouldn't you chill out? well tbh that was my attempt at tactfulness.. i didnt mention that it was you i wanted to ignore, but you were quite right. almost... it wasnt that post, its the fact that i dont want to have to read some of the stuff you write. mainly as a result of your feud with 65if (but really it comes from much much earlier than that). and im sorry if i sound like an asshole, but you're just too provoking for me to not respond to from time to time, if you get my drift.
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Post by Jude on Apr 26, 2008 16:23:57 GMT -5
That wasn't about April Fools. That was about wannabe-neo-hippies who want to push their supposed values on people and attack anyone who's views don't parallel to their own. Jude attacked 65if whenever and where ever he could. His negativity, bickering, and ego in prior threads finally caught up with me. Words. Just words. Negativity, bickering, ego. It's easy to say such things when you read and respond in a drunken/stoned haze, socash. And Deceptionist, I'm really hurt that you think I am so "provoking" (whatever that means). I would never ignore you, Deceptionist, so it's very hurtful for you to say you would ignore me. I won't apologise for any charges laid against me if they are just broad generalisations such as "negative", "ego", and "provoking". I'm sorry you all think I'm such a caustic sourpuss, but I don't know what I have apologise for. And 65if2007---tell me what you really think of me, and don't hide in the shadows pretending that you're above it all. (expected response: "I don't have to pretend").
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Post by 65if2007 on Apr 26, 2008 16:28:50 GMT -5
I have nothing more to say to you, and at the end of every sentence is a period.
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Post by openmind on Apr 26, 2008 16:39:41 GMT -5
" I'm really hurt that you think I am so "provoking" (whatever that means)."
I think the following may fall into the "provoking" category
"(expected response: "I don't have to pretend")."
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Post by Jude on Apr 26, 2008 16:44:43 GMT -5
How can I be guilty of provoking someone who is already on bad terms with me? It's one thing to go around provoking someone who has clearly done you no harm, and it's quite another to say something along the lines of what I said to someone whose guts I hate.
Or is that simply too negative? We're here to discuss Paul McCartney's death, so I wasn't expecting anyone to freak out anytime I say something negative and sarcastic, particularly when it wasn't directed towards them. Good God, I need to work on people skills, what's wrong with me, etc., etc...
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Post by MikeNL on Apr 26, 2008 16:46:01 GMT -5
Alright, you keep going on with this, something needs to be done. JoJo said that you will be banned for a day if you don't follow the latest rules. can they be enforced?, this is getting out of hand.
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Post by iameye on Apr 26, 2008 16:49:03 GMT -5
How can I be guilty of provoking someone who is already on bad terms with me? It's one thing to go around provoking someone who has clearly done you no harm, and it's quite another to say something along the lines of what I said to someone whose guts I hate. Or is that simply too negative? We're here to discuss Paul McCartney's death, so I wasn't expecting anyone to freak out anytime I say something negative and sarcastic, particularly when it wasn't directed towards them. Good God, I need to work on people skills, what's wrong with me, etc., etc... work away
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Post by Jude on Apr 26, 2008 16:53:17 GMT -5
How can I be guilty of provoking someone who is already on bad terms with me? It's one thing to go around provoking someone who has clearly done you no harm, and it's quite another to say something along the lines of what I said to someone whose guts I hate. Or is that simply too negative? We're here to discuss Paul McCartney's death, so I wasn't expecting anyone to freak out anytime I say something negative and sarcastic, particularly when it wasn't directed towards them. Good God, I need to work on people skills, what's wrong with me, etc., etc... work away Classic, iameye! Avoid me for two days, and THEN pop in for one last jab! Ooops, I'm responding to too many people.....I better hush before I'm banned for "causing trouble".
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Post by iameye on Apr 26, 2008 16:57:03 GMT -5
Classic, iameye! Avoid me for two days, and THEN pop in for one last jab! Ooops, I'm responding to too many people.....I better hush before I'm banned for "causing trouble". jab? you were actually waiting? from the bitch? try inspirational www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAVPJ9Vd3MI
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Post by Jude on Apr 26, 2008 17:08:00 GMT -5
jab? you were actually waiting? from the bitch? Ooh, did I hit a nerve? I thought you would have forgotten being called a bitch by now. I'll try "absolute moron" next time, and you can see how THAT feels. That is a very, very nice video. It brought tears to my eyes.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 26, 2008 17:10:00 GMT -5
Step one is locking the thread, not banning anyone, which IMO the time for that has arrived.
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Post by JoJo on Apr 26, 2008 21:56:01 GMT -5
Just needed a cooling off period, maybe this isn't enough ice on it but..
Mike has expressed a concern that people who want to post OT won't be able to if it's locked, so I unlocked it.. Up to you I guess.
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Post by iburiedpaul on Apr 26, 2008 22:47:29 GMT -5
I know I have made my share of wise ass comments, but I think there are good intentions behind most of what you could take as an insult. In truth it seems at worst to be bad humor. I think there is a lot of love here (All You Need Is Love/Code?). Let's try not make Jojo become a policeman (And so I quit the police department). Let's stick to the topic as much as possible. In jewish mysticism this time of year is a time to reflect on the personal bondage we all put our own selves through. It's a reminder to connect to the larger consciousness that connects us all. Or as the kids say, yo it's all good :}}
Love to you all, especially those who need it most (I refrained from mentioning specific names, but I could resist an extra parenthetical clause).
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Post by ramone on Apr 26, 2008 23:36:51 GMT -5
I can picture ones involved in this little feud, like jude and socash, seeing each other at the same starbucks everyday, and having no idea the other is at NIR. Then getting to know the other and getting along great. Stranger things have happened. Looking for another's good qualities IS a good quality. Who will make the choice to manifest it?
'Doing the garden, digging the weeds'
Good line to apply to ourselves
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Post by ramone on Apr 27, 2008 0:27:34 GMT -5
Let me re-word that. The 'fair trade generic coffee shoppe'.
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Post by therufian on Apr 27, 2008 14:32:59 GMT -5
*sigh* I know this is none of my concern, and the arguments that I'm seeing that seem pretty petty to me I haven't been involved with, but seriously
Please do me two favors (everyone, that is): 1. Look at the name of this thread 2. Remember what Mom says: If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything
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Post by ZeroCorpse on Apr 28, 2008 0:24:27 GMT -5
Hey guys! Sorry I'm late! Did I miss anything? Oh. . . Nevermind. I have some questions for IAAP, in case anyone is still interested in that. Q: Is Heather Mills one of your sources, involved in any way, or in contact in any way? Q: Was ANYTHING in the 60IF/Sun King/TKIN stories anywhere near the truth? (aside from the basic point of Paul having died, of course) Or was TKIN just a den of utter craziness? Q: Is Don Knotts still alive? If so, who is he masquerading as now? (yes, the last one is a joke)
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Post by mindgames on Apr 28, 2008 8:24:06 GMT -5
I am interested n IAAP so I am not obviously calling myself a cult member, I believe I explained it refers to those that think he can do no wrong/ has all the answers couldn't possibly be playing mins games.
It is not that I don't like the method (youtube) I am saying it is not convienent. It is grainy, small and takes to long to load up. How hard can it be to put it all on a long video format? But then again maybe the nature of the game requires short snippets with waiting periods and mystery "authors".
""I am not referring to PID as a cult I am specificly referring to those that proclaim Holy Faith in IAMAPHONEY the "just wait he'll come through" camp, it is faith based on what, I ask you? "-mindgames ---------------------------
I know you broadly smeared those who are interested in IAAP as cult members and not PID in general. I think that is a cheap and easy shot and I think it is inaccurate. Instead of lumping everyone who is following along for the ride as a cult member, be more specific with your accusations.
Who is proclaiming IAAP to be infallible? I think Jude and MikeNL may have taken a stance of staunch advocacy of IAAP, where they have expressed that he will come through wth the interview and other matters and you question their "faith", why?
What do you know about them and their connection to IAAP that others don't? Defend your own "faith" that they are cult-clowns clinging to a pipe dream.
=============== "Why rely on this mystery person to present you the gospel of pid? He needs to present himself in the light and bear whatever cross he may have to bear for doing so. Who cloaks truth in mystery? Those that want to hide the truth?"-mindgames --------------------------
You don't like the methods IAAP chooses to use, fine, I understand that. The path that all the above mentioned video series have taken begins to suggest that there is a widespread connection between the Beatles/McCartney and 'controversial/ mystical' spheres. I would bet that if IAAP came right out and laid it all on the line with one statement, there would be plenty of blank stares from incredulous people staring at their monitors. People would probably demand evidence of the preposterous claim, so perhaps the evidence is being trickled out slowly, in order to build up to a conclusionary statement.
I assume that most of us are here to scrutinize and make sense of the recent video series, cult members typically don't scrutinize their leaders, they drink the kool-aid."
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Post by mindgames on Apr 28, 2008 8:32:36 GMT -5
Let me re-word that. The 'fair trade generic coffee shoppe'. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D LOL Ramone P.S. I would have went off on the same tirade about Starbucks.
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Post by Talalay on May 30, 2008 12:21:18 GMT -5
Ahem... (steps over the debris)...
With regard to the proposed question about IAAP using subliminals to brainswash us I would have thought that the very range of posters individuals opinions on this very forum would be fairly conclusive proof that everyone is still fully in control of their own minds, otherwise surely we'd all be agreeing a whole lot more wouldn't we?
I think most people on this forum are very strong-minded and could never truly be braiwashed by anything, not even if they end up strapped to a chair whilst some psycho with a syringe cackles 'Soon you will come around to MY way of thnking!'
Sorry to see all the fall-out, but I will console myself with the fact that none of us have been brainwashed by the RA Series.
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Post by B on May 30, 2008 21:15:07 GMT -5
It was a fake mustache! It was a fake mustache! It was a fake mustache! It was .... Oh, heh. Excuse me. Pardon. heh
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