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Post by ekauqodielak on Nov 2, 2018 1:37:08 GMT -5
Humor me, if you will.
If the entire band was a "set up affair", as Paul referred to it, and if it was set up by the CIA or a similar organization, what would it have been set up to hide?
I know the drugs thing has already been discussed to death. Get the anti-Vietnam kids too stoned to protest.
But what else might an intelligence agency use a constantly touring band to disguise?
Has anyone correlated dates the band was in a particular city with suspicious events that occurred there?
Could The Beatles, or even just some of them, have been agents who were being used to spy on other musicians? The agency could have gotten a lot of good information about drug dealers all over the world that way. And they also would have gotten a good head's up about any political stances that might hold sway with the public.
Might it have been something as theoretically benign as just couriering secret packages of information to and from tour stops?
Could the need for having several Pauls have arisen from actually needing one man to have incompatible skillsets, if not the ability to live a 48hour day?
A good musician doesn't necessarily make a good spy. But a famous musician gets entry into homes and events and lives that could take a spy decades, if ever, to gain access to.
Is there any other plausible explanation for all the fake ears?
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Post by sniffer on Nov 2, 2018 7:55:04 GMT -5
While the basic idea is not so far fetched, I'm sorry to say that this post shows the main problems of PID-lore in a nutshell:
CIA. Vietnam. 9/11. QAnon. Everything is always somehow about America.
Don't you people think for a moment Brits have their own intrigues? Their own aims and agencies?
90% of the work/interpretation in PID is Americans interpreting a British cultural artefacts, sometimes quite obliviously to original meanings and slangs, reading it all through very literal, American eyes (kind of like how some Americans read the bible). The history of The Beatles is full to the brim with Americans taking them literally and missing the point from those record-burning morons to Charles Manson.
Here in the "old world", a mystery can be fun. Yes, even a murder mystery. But Americans always take it up to 11. Everything has to lead to a great epic war - be it a civil war, or a world-war.
so, if you go down that route, can you at least *consider* MI5 and MI6 before assuming the fab four getting orders directly from Kennedy?
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Post by lucy on Nov 2, 2018 16:07:21 GMT -5
lol
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Post by timmyb52 on Nov 2, 2018 17:33:53 GMT -5
Humor me, if you will. If the entire band was a "set up affair", as Paul referred to it, and if it was set up by the CIA or a similar organization, what would it have been set up to hide? I know the drugs thing has already been discussed to death. Get the anti-Vietnam kids too stoned to protest. But what else might an intelligence agency use a constantly touring band to disguise? Has anyone correlated dates the band was in a particular city with suspicious events that occurred there? Could The Beatles, or even just some of them, have been agents who were being used to spy on other musicians? The agency could have gotten a lot of good information about drug dealers all over the world that way. And they also would have gotten a good head's up about any political stances that might hold sway with the public. Might it have been something as theoretically benign as just couriering secret packages of information to and from tour stops? Could the need for having several Pauls have arisen from actually needing one man to have incompatible skillsets, if not the ability to live a 48hour day? A good musician doesn't necessarily make a good spy. But a famous musician gets entry into homes and events and lives that could take a spy decades, if ever, to gain access to. Is there any other plausible explanation for all the fake ears? In Evis Presley's meetings with Nixon and The FBI...he told them that he could work undercover exposing the drug running operations of other famous musicians and their managers. Some of this was even mob connected which many speculate led to Elvis faking his death and going into The Witness Protection Program. Could the real Paul have been playing a similiar role for M16 and this is what lead to his "retirement and replacement"? This would explain a lot...and also explains why we have so many obvious misdirections and bottomless rabbit holes in regards to PID research. And aren't we supposed to get some revelations from Gregory P. Martin regarding Paul and M16 soon?
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Post by joseph on Nov 2, 2018 18:16:39 GMT -5
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Post by lucy on Nov 2, 2018 18:17:32 GMT -5
lol
"Could The Beatles, or even just some of them, have been agents who were being used to spy on other musicians?
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Post by ekauqodielak on Nov 2, 2018 22:48:01 GMT -5
sniffer - your reading comprehension muscles could use some gym time. •••• Another thing that came to mind: 'The Magical Mystery Tour'...What if the 'tour' isn't referring to a band being on tour or even a trip in a bus, but to a Tour of Duty? A very strange, stunning and hush hush tour of duty? Also, in addition to the timing of the shoot, something about John's only non-Beatles acting credit being one of the Fohns in 'How I Won The War' rubs me the wrong way and I can't quite figure out which angle doesn't sit straight. I want to know more about all these boy bands who were sent to Hamburg. Why Hamburg? Who did they deal with there? What was the arrangement? Did any of the others go missing? It's never made any surface logic to me why they would be sent to mid-sized city in Germany to bone up their chops when there are mid-sized cities all over England, where they would have spoken the same primary language as their audiences and which could have helped jump-start a sustainable fanbase and industry reputation. What happened in Germany??? And who was running the show?
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Post by hotman637 on Nov 3, 2018 11:33:15 GMT -5
sniffer - your reading comprehension muscles could use some gym time. •••• Another thing that came to mind: 'The Magical Mystery Tour'...What if the 'tour' isn't referring to a band being on tour or even a trip in a bus, but to a Tour of Duty? A very strange, stunning and hush hush tour of duty? Also, in addition to the timing of the shoot, something about John's only non-Beatles acting credit being one of the Fohns in 'How I Won The War' rubs me the wrong way and I can't quite figure out which angle doesn't sit straight. I want to know more about all these boy bands who were sent to Hamburg. Why Hamburg? Who did they deal with there? What was the arrangement? Did any of the others go missing? It's never made any surface logic to me why they would be sent to mid-sized city in Germany to bone up their chops when there are mid-sized cities all over England, where they would have spoken the same primary language as their audiences and which could have helped jump-start a sustainable fanbase and industry reputation. What happened in Germany??? And who was running the show? The Beatles were in Hamburg the same reason Elvis was in Germany at about the same time! It was the Nazis! After WW2 the Nazis did not die they moved to Liverpool and New Jersey! www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/census-shows-hitlers-half-brother-married-to-an-irishwoman-lived-in-liverpoolwww.nytimes.com/2006/04/24/world/americas/24iht-web.0424hitlers.html
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Post by timmyb52 on Nov 3, 2018 17:46:59 GMT -5
sniffer - your reading comprehension muscles could use some gym time. •••• Another thing that came to mind: 'The Magical Mystery Tour'...What if the 'tour' isn't referring to a band being on tour or even a trip in a bus, but to a Tour of Duty? A very strange, stunning and hush hush tour of duty? Also, in addition to the timing of the shoot, something about John's only non-Beatles acting credit being one of the Fohns in 'How I Won The War' rubs me the wrong way and I can't quite figure out which angle doesn't sit straight. I want to know more about all these boy bands who were sent to Hamburg. Why Hamburg? Who did they deal with there? What was the arrangement? Did any of the others go missing? It's never made any surface logic to me why they would be sent to mid-sized city in Germany to bone up their chops when there are mid-sized cities all over England, where they would have spoken the same primary language as their audiences and which could have helped jump-start a sustainable fanbase and industry reputation. What happened in Germany??? And who was running the show? The Beatles were in Hamburg the same reason Elvis was in Germany at about the same time! It was the Nazis! After WW2 the Nazis did not die they moved to Liverpool and New Jersey! www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/census-shows-hitlers-half-brother-married-to-an-irishwoman-lived-in-liverpoolwww.nytimes.com/2006/04/24/world/americas/24iht-web.0424hitlers.htmlHotman has a point here. The Nazi's prepared for their loss as early as 1942. They transferred their wealth into many companies...put leading Nazi's into leadership positions and continued their experiments into science, manufacturing and social engineering. EMI and many other record companies were involved in these Nazi programs both before and after the war. EMI produced radio transistors and other communication components for the Nazi regime. Germany would appear to me to be the place where these bands would go in order to receive their rebranding and handlers after signing their professional contracts. This happened soon after signing with Epstein. IMHO...the whole Beatles having a hard time getting a record contract is a cover story to make the bands back story look more interesting and intriguing while hiding the fact that a lot of it was predetermined to set up for the social engineering "British Invasion" experiment. The Nazi connections cannot be easily ignored in regards to the music industry and social engineering. Many books...like those by Joseph P.Farrell and Dr.Michael Salla touch on some of this.
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Post by lucy on Nov 3, 2018 18:14:35 GMT -5
sos election day !
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Post by hotman637 on Nov 4, 2018 15:33:20 GMT -5
Hotman has a point here. The Nazi's prepared for their loss as early as 1942. They transferred their wealth into many companies...put leading Nazi's into leadership positions and continued their experiments into science, manufacturing and social engineering. EMI and many other record companies were involved in these Nazi programs both before and after the war. EMI produced radio transistors and other communication components for the Nazi regime. Germany would appear to me to be the place where these bands would go in order to receive their rebranding and handlers after signing their professional contracts. This happened soon after signing with Epstein. IMHO...the whole Beatles having a hard time getting a record contract is a cover story to make the bands back story look more interesting and intriguing while hiding the fact that a lot of it was predetermined to set up for the social engineering "British Invasion" experiment. The Nazi connections cannot be easily ignored in regards to the music industry and social engineering. Many books...like those by Joseph P.Farrell and Dr.Michael Salla touch on some of this. Thanks Timmy for that post! The whole Nazi thing has been covered on PID forums YEARS ago! People on here seem to think I am making this up but that is just because they have not read enough research! Here is an article about Nazis Tavistock the CIA etc.! www.gangstalkingmindcontrolcults.com/satans-helpers-nazi-doctors-tavistock-the-cia-mk-ultra-lsd-and-the-60s-counter-culture/
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Post by timmyb52 on Nov 4, 2018 19:42:19 GMT -5
Hotman has a point here. The Nazi's prepared for their loss as early as 1942. They transferred their wealth into many companies...put leading Nazi's into leadership positions and continued their experiments into science, manufacturing and social engineering. EMI and many other record companies were involved in these Nazi programs both before and after the war. EMI produced radio transistors and other communication components for the Nazi regime. Germany would appear to me to be the place where these bands would go in order to receive their rebranding and handlers after signing their professional contracts. This happened soon after signing with Epstein. IMHO...the whole Beatles having a hard time getting a record contract is a cover story to make the bands back story look more interesting and intriguing while hiding the fact that a lot of it was predetermined to set up for the social engineering "British Invasion" experiment. The Nazi connections cannot be easily ignored in regards to the music industry and social engineering. Many books...like those by Joseph P.Farrell and Dr.Michael Salla touch on some of this. Thanks Timmy for that post! The whole Nazi thing has been covered on PID forums YEARS ago! People on here seem to think I am making this up but that is just because they have not read enough research! Here is an article about Nazis Tavistock the CIA etc.! www.gangstalkingmindcontrolcults.com/satans-helpers-nazi-doctors-tavistock-the-cia-mk-ultra-lsd-and-the-60s-counter-culture/I agree with you that the Nazi connections run deep on multiple levels and fronts hotman. I just have a hard time believing that ALL Muslims and those who practice the Islamic faith are involved in it. Some Islamic extremist groups like ISIS,The Muslim Brotherhood, and The Taliban...for sure. But the majority of Islam...no.
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Post by joseph on Nov 5, 2018 0:21:36 GMT -5
Maybe they used Germany because of it's status at the time. It didn't become a sovereign nation until 1991. Perhaps they could have gotten away with more unconstitutional acts over there than on US soil, they hadn't signed a peace treaty and were still legally in a state of war with the US.
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Post by hotman637 on Nov 5, 2018 14:11:30 GMT -5
I agree with you that the Nazi connections run deep on multiple levels and fronts hotman. I just have a hard time believing that ALL Muslims and those who practice the Islamic faith are involved in it. Some Islamic extremist groups like ISIS,The Muslim Brotherhood, and The Taliban...for sure. But the majority of Islam...no. The radical Muslims want to kill you! The Moderate Muslims want the radicals to do it!
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Post by Rubber Soul on Nov 5, 2018 16:16:49 GMT -5
I definitely think Bill has intelligence connections, But I don't think the original lads were connected to any intelligence agencies until they were hijacked in 1966 with Paul's murder and Bill arrived on the scene.
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Post by Rubber Soul on Nov 5, 2018 16:19:02 GMT -5
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Post by ekauqodielak on Nov 6, 2018 0:28:55 GMT -5
The Nazi's prepared for their loss as early as 1942. They transferred their wealth into many companies...put leading Nazi's into leadership positions and continued their experiments into science, manufacturing and social engineering. EMI and many other record companies were involved in these Nazi programs both before and after the war. EMI produced radio transistors and other communication components for the Nazi regime. Germany would appear to me to be the place where these bands would go in order to receive their rebranding and handlers after signing their professional contracts. This happened soon after signing with Epstein. IMHO...the whole Beatles having a hard time getting a record contract is a cover story to make the bands back story look more interesting and intriguing while hiding the fact that a lot of it was predetermined to set up for the social engineering "British Invasion" experiment. The Nazi connections cannot be easily ignored in regards to the music industry and social engineering. Many books...like those by Joseph P.Farrell and Dr.Michael Salla touch on some of this. Another manufactured British band... Could you give a brief run-down on what Scalla & Farrell layout about music industry social manipulation? Tangential note: Bayer, which manufactures the vast bulk of the biological weapon known as 'fluoroquinolone antibiotics', is the same company that made the Nazi nerve gas. Have any of you run across first hand accounts by any members of any of these bands that were sent to Hamburg giving credible descriptions of their experiences there? I want to unravel Hamburg.
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Post by timmyb52 on Nov 6, 2018 1:30:49 GMT -5
Maybe they used Germany because of it's status at the time. It didn't become a sovereign nation until 1991. Perhaps they could have gotten away with more unconstitutional acts over there than on US soil, they hadn't signed a peace treaty and were still legally in a state of war with the US. It is funny...Germany did surrender...but The Nazi Party and its leadership never did!
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Post by timmyb52 on Nov 6, 2018 1:42:53 GMT -5
The Nazi's prepared for their loss as early as 1942. They transferred their wealth into many companies...put leading Nazi's into leadership positions and continued their experiments into science, manufacturing and social engineering. EMI and many other record companies were involved in these Nazi programs both before and after the war. EMI produced radio transistors and other communication components for the Nazi regime. Germany would appear to me to be the place where these bands would go in order to receive their rebranding and handlers after signing their professional contracts. This happened soon after signing with Epstein. IMHO...the whole Beatles having a hard time getting a record contract is a cover story to make the bands back story look more interesting and intriguing while hiding the fact that a lot of it was predetermined to set up for the social engineering "British Invasion" experiment. The Nazi connections cannot be easily ignored in regards to the music industry and social engineering. Many books...like those by Joseph P.Farrell and Dr.Michael Salla touch on some of this. Another manufactured British band... Could you give a brief run-down on what Scalla & Farrell layout about music industry social manipulation? Tangential note: Bayer, which manufactures the vast bulk of the biological weapon known as 'fluoroquinolone antibiotics', is the same company that made the Nazi nerve gas. Have any of you run across first hand accounts by any members of any of these bands that were sent to Hamburg giving credible descriptions of their experiences there? I want to unravel Hamburg. They only both briefly touch upon and discuss some of the companies involved with the Nazi's both before and after the war. The companies involved are vast and numerous...and many are still doing business today. The fields involved are communication companies, the military industrial complex,space industry,food and drug companies,chemical companies,music companies,art, manufacturing companies in many areas...such as steel,tin,iron,etc...and oil and banking. They speak on these things in the context of the post-Nazi survival plan. Many countries also stayed neutral although they were supporters of Socialism and Nazism...such as Argentina and many others that they escaped to. They continued their social engineering experiments in Nazi German controlled territory through the means of taking over control and CEO positions of industry before and after the war. Nazi control of music en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_control_of_music
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Post by lucy on Nov 6, 2018 6:52:50 GMT -5
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Post by hotman637 on Nov 6, 2018 13:32:31 GMT -5
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Post by lucy on Nov 6, 2018 18:43:22 GMT -5
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Post by lucy on Nov 6, 2018 20:08:33 GMT -5
Now and then lol
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Post by timmyb52 on Nov 6, 2018 21:52:50 GMT -5
I would also recommend the work of Jim Marrs in this field of Nazi survival and how they infiltrated business,banking and manufacturing.
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Post by hotman637 on Nov 7, 2018 13:57:09 GMT -5
I would also recommend the work of Jim Marrs in this field of Nazi survival and how they infiltrated business,banking and manufacturing. View AttachmentWOW GREAT BOOK! Once we see how obvious it is the NAZIS have goofed everything up why does everyone blame the Jews for everything? They usually give some lame explanation like "Hitler was a Jew"! If Hitler was a Jew why did he hate the Jews?
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