roo
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Post by roo on Feb 23, 2020 21:35:55 GMT -5
Does anybody have a list of all the replacements for Paul and the other Beatles?
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flowerchild
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not in Kansas anymore.......
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Post by flowerchild on Feb 24, 2020 9:29:22 GMT -5
We wish😑
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Post by B on Feb 24, 2020 18:40:20 GMT -5
The start of this video has always intrigued me. I don't know who Hammer Anvil is, or how he claims to know this, but you might find it to be of interest. REPLACEMENTS - In Your Face part 49www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUHbcba55BUHammer Anvil Jan 22, 2016 ---------- When 'Apollo C Vermouth' (thought to be Neil Aspinall in real life) was posting here, he said that vocally 3 people were used for the voice of Paul, and two doubles were used for appearences. As for the rest... there is the curious lyric in David Bowie's song "Life on Mars" that "Lennon's on sale again", possibly suggesting two of him, while Sun King posted a pretty convincing photo at TKIN/60IF of what looked like Tara Browne posing as Ringo on one occasion. The possibilities are endless. Well you can imitate everyone you know Yes you can imitate everyone you know
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roo
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Post by roo on Feb 24, 2020 19:00:59 GMT -5
Interesting, do we know the names of the possible doubles?
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iameye
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Post by iameye on Feb 24, 2020 22:27:53 GMT -5
Obviously, I know.
lol 😉
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Post by ramone on Feb 24, 2020 22:52:16 GMT -5
There would probably be different opinions about ACV. But I think there'd be agreement he was definitely smart.
(To Red Lion)
"I oRiginAlly thought of just sliding into oblivion, but thought that would be rather rude of Me. I am still unable to lOg iN at NIR, desPite the Assist by JoJo. Maybe, it was meant to be. I am rather delighted to see sUch progress being made here in regards to the Pepper cover. That is the story you seek. It's alL there. I know, I put it there. You know the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water..." I have pointed you all there many years ago. Time takes time. It has been a pleasure.
Apollo
"If you isolate the caps that are out of place you get RAMON PAUL." (Jarv)
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Post by joseph on Feb 25, 2020 19:39:50 GMT -5
The start of this video has always intrigued me. I don't know who Hammer Anvil is, or how he claims to know this, but you might find it to be of interest. REPLACEMENTS - In Your Face part 49www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUHbcba55BUHammer Anvil Jan 22, 2016 ---------- When 'Apollo C Vermouth' (thought to be Neil Aspinall in real life) was posting here, he said that vocally 3 people were used for the voice of Paul, and two doubles were used for appearences. As for the rest... there is the curious lyric in David Bowie's song "Life on Mars" that "Lennon's on sale again", possibly suggesting two of him, while Sun King posted a pretty convincing photo at TKIN/60IF of what looked like Tara Browne posing as Ringo on one occasion. The possibilities are endless. Well you can imitate everyone you know Yes you can imitate everyone you knowUp until the death of Bowie I honestly thought he was singing "there's lemons on sale again" I thought it was a lyric about poat-war rationing being lifted.
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Post by B on Feb 25, 2020 19:45:55 GMT -5
that too!
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Post by B on Feb 25, 2020 20:54:06 GMT -5
Obviously, I know.
lol 😉 iameye, is the speculation about William Shatto being involved pertinent, or are those pursuing it barking up the wrong tree?
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iameye
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Post by iameye on Feb 25, 2020 22:28:50 GMT -5
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Post by B on Feb 26, 2020 16:28:52 GMT -5
Just thought I'd ask. My theory is that everything is connected to everything else, and so even if you think Adam Ant was an insect, if you start your search there, the information will flow.
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Post by B on Feb 29, 2020 0:46:23 GMT -5
I'm waiting for roo to ask iameye for the names..
I wonder what iameye thinks about the list of Pauls in the video.
Legitimate? On target, sort of accurate, or off the rails?
It is curious that if Paul 1 died in 1959, efforts were made to ensure that a Paul would be available in the future. Somebody obviously had plans for him.
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Post by ramone on Feb 29, 2020 10:58:51 GMT -5
"When 'Apollo C Vermouth' (thought to be Neil Aspinall in real life) was posting here, he said that vocally 3 people were used for the voice of Paul,
and two doubles were used for appearences."
If memory serves he was speaking of 1970 and up. But, I could be wrong on that.
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Post by ramone on Feb 29, 2020 11:03:46 GMT -5
And as far as the vid above - a lot of conjecture. This person died during this year, another....
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Post by B on Mar 2, 2020 18:53:49 GMT -5
But is it?
It seems the person who posted the video had awfully specific knowledge for it to be "conjecture".
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Post by joseph on Mar 2, 2020 20:13:37 GMT -5
Does anybody have a list of all the replacements for Paul and the other Beatles? For me there is Paul on the cover of With the Beatles, Faul on the cover of Beatles For Sale and Rishikesh Faul. Not too sure whether MBE awardee Faul from the Buckingham Palace photoshoot is another one entirely.
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roo
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Post by roo on Apr 3, 2020 22:00:06 GMT -5
Obviously, I know.
lol 😉 What are they?
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Post by ramone on Apr 4, 2020 11:46:02 GMT -5
If I had to wing it - I'd say there was a Paul before '67 that played live and had the voice we recognize on stage and albums. Then there were some appearances by different ones during the changeover. But, then one was settled on fairly soon and this was the one that married Linda and is still singing today.
There might be a sub for Sir P that has been seen at times. And there is room for different 'Pauls' pre '66/'67. But, that's because of some height/facial feature differences.
Who knows
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roo
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Post by roo on Apr 10, 2020 0:22:41 GMT -5
I was doing some research on the 60IF TKIN forum. Which I know you guys aren’t all too keen on but here’s what I’ve gathered on their side. For Paul, they mentioned at least three replacements. William Shepherd (aka Phil Ackrill), Neil Aspinall and Pearl Witherington. There was also talks of one of Paul’s replacements doubling as Brian. For John, they mentioned a man named Ralph Ellis taking over for him who does resemble John quite a bit. And they also talked about Tara Browne replacing Ringo. What are your takes on these?
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Post by B on Apr 10, 2020 7:49:25 GMT -5
William Shepherd is not (because he can not be) Phil Ackrill. Posts have been made showing this. I think some are here. Pearl Witherington - always good for a laugh. Neil Aspinal - possibly a stand-in once in a while.
Tara Browne as Ringo - 60IF has some photos that make a good case for it. Perhaps he was a stand-in on one occassion.
Ralph Ellis - "does resemble John quite a bit" - but isn't, imo.
You can always go to Google or Yahoo and type in "Nothing is real paul" and then a name such as Ralph Ellis, and you can find the threads here about them.
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roo
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Post by roo on Apr 10, 2020 10:47:36 GMT -5
Yeah. I was just spitballing. I think the Pearl stuff is really ridiculous. I don’t know how I feel about the idea of ALL of the band being replaced. And they talk about Neil Aspinall singing songs on the albums but I don’t know why they think that. There’s no evidence that he can sing, and even if he can, or that he can sing like Paul. The William Shepherd and Phil Ackrill stuff is very confusing, that site has used both names interchangeably. An alternate theory on there that I do like, is the idea that James Paul was replaced but he hired a replacement (William Shepherd) to take over for him in 1966 cause he didn’t want to be in the limelight.
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Post by B on Apr 10, 2020 15:37:18 GMT -5
I've often pointed out the lyrics of the Bee Gees song "Holiday" in that regard. The singer is obviously singing as if he is in a hospital bed, recovering from some sort of accident that has left him with head pain and near-blindness. I've always thought the song was about Paul (and this was before anyone knew about the Johnny Holiday person that did the tours of McCartney's childhood home). So I would contend that Paul's replacement was hired due to Paul having been in an accident that left him in a position of not wanting to be in the limelight. He may have died later, of course. Anyway, check out the lyrics: Bee Gees - Holiday (1967) [High Quality Stereo Sound, Subtitled]www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hQ1HQh9_JMOoh you're a holiday, such a holiday (double meaning: he may be 'Johnny Holiday', his new alias; he is also 'Easter' having 'risen from the dead' and by all appearences still performing)Ooh you're a holiday , such a holiday It's something I think's worthwhile If the puppet makes you smile (the replacement)If not then you're throwing stones Throwing stones, throwing stones Ooh it's a funny game Don't believe that it's all the same (Can't believe that people haven't noticed he's been replaced)Can't think what I've just said Put the soft pillow on my head Millions of eyes can see (They see, but they don't see that he has been replaced)Yet why am I so blind When the someone else is me (Faul is Paul)It's unkind, it's unkind de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de de Yet millions of eyes can see Yet why am I so blind When the someone else is me It's unkind, it's unkind Ooh you're a holiday , ev'ry day , such a holiday Now it's my turn to say , and I say you're a holiday It's something I think's worthwhile If the puppet makes you smile If not then you're throwing stones Throwing stones , throwing stones de de de de de de de de de de de de de de ----------------------------I mean, seriously, who else could this song (from 1967!) be about?
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Post by B on Apr 11, 2020 22:41:24 GMT -5
speaking of Easter
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Post by B on Apr 12, 2020 20:51:40 GMT -5
In a post apocolyptic world, three eunuchs portraying Jesus and the two criminals at his crucifixion, sing about staying alive. Bee Gees - Stayin' Alive (Official Music Video)www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72cbeegees Jan 10, 2017 -------------------------Ha Ha Ha Ha ppy Easter! Just stayin' alive!
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roo
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Post by roo on Apr 14, 2020 15:57:21 GMT -5
The start of this video has always intrigued me. I don't know who Hammer Anvil is, or how he claims to know this, but you might find it to be of interest. REPLACEMENTS - In Your Face part 49www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUHbcba55BUHammer Anvil Jan 22, 2016 ---------- When 'Apollo C Vermouth' (thought to be Neil Aspinall in real life) was posting here, he said that vocally 3 people were used for the voice of Paul, and two doubles were used for appearences. As for the rest... there is the curious lyric in David Bowie's song "Life on Mars" that "Lennon's on sale again", possibly suggesting two of him, while Sun King posted a pretty convincing photo at TKIN/60IF of what looked like Tara Browne posing as Ringo on one occasion. The possibilities are endless. Well you can imitate everyone you know Yes you can imitate everyone you knowHey B. What are your thoughts on this video? I personally don’t think this is the truth.
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