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Post by kvo on Sept 22, 2022 13:21:00 GMT -5
Yes, I could see a writer type obsessed with The Walrus and the Carpenter taking a look at what the Beatles did with the story. Then, taking it one (or two) steps further and having the legs amputated. It's the "#WalrusYes" image in the end of the trailer that REALLY gives me the creeps. That, and thinking of the image of Paul sawing trees, symbolic for legs?
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Post by B on Sept 22, 2022 13:39:35 GMT -5
POE-etic license. The "premature burial" ya know. "Carpenter" and "Cannibalism" will be in the news: ------ You're a bit prescient, kvo. Or having your legs cut out from under you. I was chopping down a palm tree (Paul M tree)When a friend dropped by to ask If I would feel less lonely If he helped me swing the axe I said, "No, it's not a case of being lonely we have here I've been working on this palm tree For eighty seven years" I said, "No, it's not a case of being lonely we have here I've been working on this palm tree For eighty seven years" He said, "Go get lost!" and walked toward his Cadillac I chopped down the palm tree And it landed on his back Speaking of Tulsa, Julie mentions that too! (I just can't find it.)
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Post by kvo on Sept 22, 2022 13:43:37 GMT -5
"Having your legs cut out from under you". Good one. Everything purely symbolic. Okay, I can take that interpretation over the literal any day.
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Post by B on Sept 22, 2022 14:52:26 GMT -5
Sometimes things just fall into your lap. (I LOVE synchronicity!) Call the sun in the dead of the night And the sun's gonna rise in the sky Touch a man who can't walk upright And that lame man, he's gonna fly And I fly, yeah And I fly Holly holy dream Neil Diamond Talks About "Holly Holy" Then Plays It (Live 1971)youtu.be/Ero_zy_O3fA ------ fantas4 Jun 30, 2018 (Thank you P(D)enny! )
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Post by ekauqodielak on Sept 22, 2022 17:13:20 GMT -5
"Having your legs cut out from under you". Good one. Everything purely symbolic. Okay, I can take that interpretation over the literal any day. That movie is fucked up. Haven't been able to watch that guy in anything else, since then. Turning him into the Walrus could just be the RAM done to "Billy", no? I doubt any of the early Pauls were literally plastic surgeried to resemble animals, but given all the body weirdness, all the bizarre hands and fingers and at least one Paul's leg…Also, remember at least 2 sets of Beatles appear to have arisen from Nazi era Germany.
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Post by kvo on Sept 22, 2022 17:55:31 GMT -5
"Having your legs cut out from under you". Good one. Everything purely symbolic. Okay, I can take that interpretation over the literal any day. That movie is fucked up. Haven't been able to watch that guy in anything else, since then. Turning him into the Walrus could just be the RAM done to "Billy", no? I doubt any of the early Pauls were literally plastic surgeried to resemble animals, but given all the body weirdness, all the bizarre hands and fingers and at least one Paul's leg…Also, remember at least 2 sets of Beatles appear to have arisen from Nazi era Germany. Yeah, I'm bearing all that in mind. From the standpoint of a true story (which, hopefully it isn't), I was thinking of something done to one of them as a means of torture/humiliation/de-humanizing. Just prior to pushing them into a body of water (as in, "You're a Walrus now, so swim"), doing the man/Walrus in altogether. All of this transpiring just as Ono appears on the scene. Just got hung up on the "#WalrusYes" stuff at the end of the trailer. The "Yes" stuff screams Ono, to me. As for Nazi Germany, I have looked really hard into the face of that Paul in the Paul/John photo in the video I posted this week. Hmm....Also had some thoughts on the body anomalies and the song, "Drive my Car" which I posted today.
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Post by B on Sept 22, 2022 18:24:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm bearing all that in mind. From the standpoint of a true story (which, hopefully it isn't), I was thinking of something done to one of them as a means of torture/humiliation/de-humanizing. Just prior to pushing them into a body of water (as in, "You're a Walrus now, so swim"), doing the man/Walrus in altogether. All of this transpiring just as Ono appears on the scene. Just got hung up on the "#WalrusYes" stuff at the end of the trailer. The "Yes" stuff screams Ono, to me. David Gilmour - Take A Breath (Live In Gdansk)www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDzPTMCUKMA ------ David Gilmour Apr 12, 2019 Take a breath Take a deep breath now Take a breath A deep breath now Take a breath When you're down is where you find yourself When you're drown there's nothing else If you're lost you'll need to turn yourself Then you'll find out that there's no one else To make the moves that you can do When you fall from grace your eyes in blue Your every breath becomes another world And the far horizon's living hell Take a breath A deep breath now This kind of love is hard to find I never got to you by being kind If I'm the one to throw you overboard At least I showed you how to swim for shoreWhen you're down is where you'll know yourself Then if you're drown there's nothing else When you're lost you need to find yourself Then you'll find out that there's no one else ------------------------------------painting on the back cover of the Memoirs of Billy Shears
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Post by B on Sept 22, 2022 19:45:18 GMT -5
Well John did say it was about Yoko. But I have felt that the "storm at sea" repetitions in "she's so heavy" suggest someone on the ocean, who then drowns. Their life cut short. repetitions start at youtu.be/sN7nZKE390I?t=438The Beatles - I Want You (She's So Heavy) [10 minutes] www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN7nZKE390I ------ The Beatles [1 HOUR] May 20, 2019 Notice in the "LOVE" versions, the "voices in one's head" (delusion) inclusion. Being high on drugs. 'Drowning' possibly being removal from the band, or even life. I take this as Paul, lost in a sea of drug excess, and obsessed with a passion for a love lost, loses his life. Osiris's body was found in a box that had washed in from the sea (and which was caught in a tree) by Isis. (Nobody else is in my tree; I mean it must be high or low)She brought him back to life as Horus. (If I ain't dead already, girl you know the reason why.) Of course the story of Osiris has many versions: But the film is a saddening bore 'Cause I wrote it ten times or moreIt's about to be writ again As I ask you to focus on.... As Mr. Bowie (aka Davy Jones) has told us.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Sept 23, 2022 0:28:44 GMT -5
That movie is fucked up. Haven't been able to watch that guy in anything else, since then. Turning him into the Walrus could just be the RAM done to "Billy", no? I doubt any of the early Pauls were literally plastic surgeried to resemble animals, but given all the body weirdness, all the bizarre hands and fingers and at least one Paul's leg…Also, remember at least 2 sets of Beatles appear to have arisen from Nazi era Germany. Yeah, I'm bearing all that in mind. From the standpoint of a true story (which, hopefully it isn't), I was thinking of something done to one of them as a means of torture/humiliation/de-humanizing. Just prior to pushing them into a body of water (as in, "You're a Walrus now, so swim"), doing the man/Walrus in altogether. All of this transpiring just as Ono appears on the scene. Just got hung up on the "#WalrusYes" stuff at the end of the trailer. The "Yes" stuff screams Ono, to me. As for Nazi Germany, I have looked really hard into the face of that Paul in the Paul/John photo in the video I posted this week. Hmm....Also had some thoughts on the body anomalies and the song, "Drive my Car" which I posted today. What do you think about the scene at the end when his friends find him in the zoo and try to convince him to leave and he just stays there barking eating raw fish, clapping his flippers? In the context of this being a Paul/"Paul" myth.
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Post by kvo on Sept 23, 2022 7:31:47 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm bearing all that in mind. From the standpoint of a true story (which, hopefully it isn't), I was thinking of something done to one of them as a means of torture/humiliation/de-humanizing. Just prior to pushing them into a body of water (as in, "You're a Walrus now, so swim"), doing the man/Walrus in altogether. All of this transpiring just as Ono appears on the scene. Just got hung up on the "#WalrusYes" stuff at the end of the trailer. The "Yes" stuff screams Ono, to me. As for Nazi Germany, I have looked really hard into the face of that Paul in the Paul/John photo in the video I posted this week. Hmm....Also had some thoughts on the body anomalies and the song, "Drive my Car" which I posted today. What do you think about the scene at the end when his friends find him in the zoo and try to convince him to leave and he just stays there barking eating raw fish, clapping his flippers? In the context of this being a Paul/"Paul" myth. He stays there clapping his flippers. In one Beatlemania era photo Paul holds up a sign (or was it a button?) saying "To hell with the Beatles". So, Paul is happy to depart. Yet in another Beatlemania photo, Paul has his hands in the air, with Ringo pointing a Revolver at him. In a Cavern days photo, Paul lies prostrate, with the other Beatles mourning him. On the Revolver cover, Paul seems to be the focus of some evil plot. Whether he wants to go, or is being forced out, either way the message is that Paul has got to go. Also on MMT, along with I am the Walrus, is Baby You're a Rich Man. In that song, someone is asked "What did you see when you were there?". The answer "Nothing that doesn't show". Yeah, cause he's a Walrus now. It shows. "You keep all your money in big brown bag inside a zoo". The man/Walrus is now happy to stay in the zoo. He believes that he has evolved into a better creature. Doesn't the seafarer in the film attempt to convince the young traveler that being a Walrus is better than being a human? Surely, this Walrus stuff has to be metaphorical. The Walrus symbolic of some elevated creature that Paul became once he followed the sun. The Beatles go from Horus on the Meat album cover to a very demented version of the Walrus and the Carpenter. John, the Carpenter (I suppose he represents the seafarer in the film "Tusk", as he seemed to represent in the film "Yesterday" as an aged John Lennon), must then spend his time making other Pauls. Just as our seafarer in the film is obsessed with re-creating the Walrus he had eaten. To me, that seems to be the story. Help! I need somebody. Letter B, you know these lyrics and stories better than anyone here. Why is the Walrus in "Tusk" happy to stay in the zoo and keep all his money there? I mean, what a thing to do. What's your take? I see a "he bag production" aspect to "Tusk". Sewing the traveler into a Walrus bag, made of skin. John bagging production by turning Paul into a Walrus? This is all just...crazy. Or "crasa" as my nephew stated when asked to write a single word to describe his family. The kid could have said anything about us. The first word that comes to his mind: "crasa".
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Post by kvo on Sept 23, 2022 9:14:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm bearing all that in mind. From the standpoint of a true story (which, hopefully it isn't), I was thinking of something done to one of them as a means of torture/humiliation/de-humanizing. Just prior to pushing them into a body of water (as in, "You're a Walrus now, so swim"), doing the man/Walrus in altogether. All of this transpiring just as Ono appears on the scene. Just got hung up on the "#WalrusYes" stuff at the end of the trailer. The "Yes" stuff screams Ono, to me. David Gilmour - Take A Breath (Live In Gdansk)www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDzPTMCUKMA ------ David Gilmour Apr 12, 2019 Take a breath Take a deep breath now Take a breath A deep breath now Take a breath When you're down is where you find yourself When you're drown there's nothing else If you're lost you'll need to turn yourself Then you'll find out that there's no one else To make the moves that you can do When you fall from grace your eyes in blue Your every breath becomes another world And the far horizon's living hell Take a breath A deep breath now This kind of love is hard to find I never got to you by being kind If I'm the one to throw you overboard At least I showed you how to swim for shoreWhen you're down is where you'll know yourself Then if you're drown there's nothing else When you're lost you need to find yourself Then you'll find out that there's no one else ------------------------------------painting on the back cover of the Memoirs of Billy Shears Gilmour seems connected. The Happy Gilmore film where a Gilmore is run over by a Beetle Bug (a car), then gets back up victorious. The film ending with the song "Tuesday's Gone with the Wind" - Tuesday, of course being a very important day in Paul history. And yes, I can see the motif of being pushed in the water by someone who feels it is the only way to teach a person to swim (be self-sufficient, or a transformation into a more evolved creature as in the film "Tusk"). A couple of Beatle lyrics immediately come to mind looking over these Gilmour lyrics and the painting. "Falling, yes I am falling, and she keeps calling me back again." Also, "how can you laugh, when you know I'm down". In the context of PID, all of this taken together means that Paul has evolved. He can be visited at the zoo (a metaphor for an unknown land/place), but he will never leave there. He is happy to stay. In his enlightened/evolved state. How does it feel to be one of the beautiful people?
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Post by ekauqodielak on Sept 23, 2022 12:40:08 GMT -5
David Gilmour - Take A Breath (Live In Gdansk)www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDzPTMCUKMA ------ David Gilmour Apr 12, 2019 Take a breath Take a deep breath now Take a breath A deep breath now Take a breath When you're down is where you find yourself When you're drown there's nothing else If you're lost you'll need to turn yourself Then you'll find out that there's no one else To make the moves that you can do When you fall from grace your eyes in blue Your every breath becomes another world And the far horizon's living hell Take a breath A deep breath now This kind of love is hard to find I never got to you by being kind If I'm the one to throw you overboard At least I showed you how to swim for shoreWhen you're down is where you'll know yourself Then if you're drown there's nothing else When you're lost you need to find yourself Then you'll find out that there's no one else ------------------------------------painting on the back cover of the Memoirs of Billy Shears Gilmour seems connected. The Happy Gilmore film where a Gilmore is run over by a Beetle Bug (a car), then gets back up victorious. The film ending with the song "Tuesday's Gone with the Wind" - Tuesday, of course being a very important day in Paul history. And yes, I can see the motif of being pushed in the water by someone who feels it is the only way to teach a person to swim (be self-sufficient, or a transformation into a more evolved creature as in the film "Tusk"). A couple of Beatle lyrics immediately come to mind looking over these Gilmour lyrics and the painting. "Falling, yes I am falling, and she keeps calling me back again." Also, "how can you laugh, when you know I'm down". In the context of PID, all of this taken together means that Paul has evolved. He can be visited at the zoo (a metaphor for an unknown land/place), but he will never leave there. He is happy to stay. In his enlightened/evolved state. How does it feel to be one of the beautiful people? I'll say I think the entirety of The Monkey's "HEAD" really needs to be considered in any 'overboard' conversation.
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Post by B on Sept 23, 2022 13:05:09 GMT -5
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Post by ekauqodielak on Sept 23, 2022 15:44:27 GMT -5
Gilmour seems connected. The Happy Gilmore film where a Gilmore is run over by a Beetle Bug (a car), then gets back up victorious. The film ending with the song "Tuesday's Gone with the Wind" - Tuesday, of course being a very important day in Paul history. And yes, I can see the motif of being pushed in the water by someone who feels it is the only way to teach a person to swim (be self-sufficient, or a transformation into a more evolved creature as in the film "Tusk"). A couple of Beatle lyrics immediately come to mind looking over these Gilmour lyrics and the painting. "Falling, yes I am falling, and she keeps calling me back again." Also, "how can you laugh, when you know I'm down". In the context of PID, all of this taken together means that Paul has evolved. He can be visited at the zoo (a metaphor for an unknown land/place), but he will never leave there. He is happy to stay. In his enlightened/evolved state. How does it feel to be one of the beautiful people? To me, if it's a Beatles allegory, "Billy" is the Franken-Walrus and "Paul" was the original Walrus the old guy ate.
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Post by kvo on Sept 23, 2022 17:23:41 GMT -5
Gilmour seems connected. The Happy Gilmore film where a Gilmore is run over by a Beetle Bug (a car), then gets back up victorious. The film ending with the song "Tuesday's Gone with the Wind" - Tuesday, of course being a very important day in Paul history. And yes, I can see the motif of being pushed in the water by someone who feels it is the only way to teach a person to swim (be self-sufficient, or a transformation into a more evolved creature as in the film "Tusk"). A couple of Beatle lyrics immediately come to mind looking over these Gilmour lyrics and the painting. "Falling, yes I am falling, and she keeps calling me back again." Also, "how can you laugh, when you know I'm down". In the context of PID, all of this taken together means that Paul has evolved. He can be visited at the zoo (a metaphor for an unknown land/place), but he will never leave there. He is happy to stay. In his enlightened/evolved state. How does it feel to be one of the beautiful people? To me, if it's a Beatles allegory, "Billy" is the Franken-Walrus and "Paul" was the original Walrus the old guy ate. It's a confusing puzzle to me. That's kinda the way I had it figured at first, too. How else to account for the Walrus that was eaten? Like all Beatle puzzles, there's a missing piece or extraneous pieces, with a looping "which came first the chicken or the egg" scenario. I thought of "World without Love". The please lock me away motif, seems like "JPM". He stays in the zoo, he wants to be locked away, but has his Beatle money. Where your treasures are, your heart is also. Plus, in this allegory, how does "Billy" do anything, if he is locked away? Unless being locked away, metaphorically speaking, is just what "Billy" laments in Band on the Run. "Stuck inside these four walls", plus the prison images on the magnification screens during the 1970s Wings concerts. Either way, the concepts of being cast away, or locked away, maimed, or even killed (the Revolver cover, the replacement Meat album cover) are all over the McCartney identity. Kill Bill even makes its way into "Tusk".
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Post by joseph on Sept 23, 2022 17:33:44 GMT -5
I just watched the movie Tusk. WTF happened to Haley Joel Osment? It looks like someone tried to draw his face on a balloon. And that Johnny Depp performance didn't look like decades of acting skill went into it.
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Post by kvo on Sept 23, 2022 17:58:12 GMT -5
I just watched the movie Tusk. WTF happened to Haley Joel Osment? It looks like someone tried to draw his face on a balloon. And that Johnny Depp performance didn't look like decades of acting skill went into it. Depp has an unusual filmography. In 2009, he narrates the story of Jim Morrison in the documentary, People are Strange. In 2013, he coincidentally does a film "Lucky Them" about a female rock journalist who doesn't believe her missing rock star boyfriend is actually dead (as widely believed) and goes looking for him. She finds him (played by Depp), alive, living a quiet life. Hmm...one of Morrison's girlfriends was rock journalist Patricia Kennealy. Depp plays Captain Jack Sparrow as though he's Keith Richards, playing the part of Jack Sparrow. Naturally, there's an Alice in Wonderland film in there too. Of course.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Sept 23, 2022 20:04:52 GMT -5
To me, if it's a Beatles allegory, "Billy" is the Franken-Walrus and "Paul" was the original Walrus the old guy ate. It's a confusing puzzle to me. That's kinda the way I had it figured at first, too. How else to account for the Walrus that was eaten? Like all Beatle puzzles, there's a missing piece or extraneous pieces, with a looping "which came first the chicken or the egg" scenario. I thought of "World without Love". The please lock me away motif, seems like "JPM". He stays in the zoo, he wants to be locked away, but has his Beatle money. Where your treasures are, your heart is also. Plus, in this allegory, how does "Billy" do anything, if he is locked away? Unless being locked away, metaphorically speaking, is just what "Billy" laments in Band on the Run. "Stuck inside these four walls", plus the prison images on the magnification screens during the 1970s Wings concerts. Either way, the concepts of being cast away, or locked away, maimed, or even killed (the Revolver cover, the replacement Meat album cover) are all over the McCartney identity. Kill Bill even makes its way into "Tusk". The zoo is the stage. He's barking and clapping for raw fish/money. He's been mutilated into a performing animal. The question is: Who is the seafarer? ...... Also, the Carpenter's mustache and the Walrus' tusks look an awful lot alike (in pictograph). Not identical, of course, but an awful lot alike. Enough to be mistaken for each other.
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Post by kvo on Sept 24, 2022 9:34:03 GMT -5
It's a confusing puzzle to me. That's kinda the way I had it figured at first, too. How else to account for the Walrus that was eaten? Like all Beatle puzzles, there's a missing piece or extraneous pieces, with a looping "which came first the chicken or the egg" scenario. I thought of "World without Love". The please lock me away motif, seems like "JPM". He stays in the zoo, he wants to be locked away, but has his Beatle money. Where your treasures are, your heart is also. Plus, in this allegory, how does "Billy" do anything, if he is locked away? Unless being locked away, metaphorically speaking, is just what "Billy" laments in Band on the Run. "Stuck inside these four walls", plus the prison images on the magnification screens during the 1970s Wings concerts. Either way, the concepts of being cast away, or locked away, maimed, or even killed (the Revolver cover, the replacement Meat album cover) are all over the McCartney identity. Kill Bill even makes its way into "Tusk". The zoo is the stage. He's barking and clapping for raw fish/money. He's been mutilated into a performing animal. The question is: Who is the seafarer? ...... Also, the Carpenter's mustache and the Walrus' tusks look an awful lot alike (in pictograph). Not identical, of course, but an awful lot alike. Enough to be mistaken for each other. Well, okay, if the Walrus was Paul (Glass Onion), and not actually John as shown on the MMT cover, then John is saying in Glass Onion that Paul was the evil one. Between the Walrus and the Carpenter, the Walrus initially looks to be the most sympathetic character but is revealed to be the more sinister of the two. If the seafarer resembles the Walrus in some way, then we have what......The seafarer was a phony Paul who consumed (ate) the identity of a first Paul. "I told you 'bout the Walrus and me man, you know that we're as close as can be man". Yeah, if you ate him, that's pretty close. The seafarer then sets about creating additional Pauls, who he essentially owns. That brings us to a three Paul scenario. Which I believe takes us right back to the Apollo posts on this board. In dunno, this can be considered from varying perspectives. Wish I had kaleidoscope eyes right now.
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Post by ekauqodielak on Sept 24, 2022 13:39:21 GMT -5
The zoo is the stage. He's barking and clapping for raw fish/money. He's been mutilated into a performing animal. The question is: Who is the seafarer? ...... Also, the Carpenter's mustache and the Walrus' tusks look an awful lot alike (in pictograph). Not identical, of course, but an awful lot alike. Enough to be mistaken for each other. Well, okay, if the Walrus was Paul (Glass Onion), and not actually John as shown on the MMT cover, then John is saying in Glass Onion that Paul was the evil one. Between the Walrus and the Carpenter, the Walrus initially looks to be the most sympathetic character but is revealed to be the more sinister of the two. If the seafarer resembles the Walrus in some way, then we have what......The seafarer was a phony Paul who consumed (ate) the identity of a first Paul. "I told you 'bout the Walrus and me man, you know that we're as close as can be man". Yeah, if you ate him, that's pretty close. The seafarer then sets about creating additional Pauls, who he essentially owns. That brings us to a three Paul scenario. Which I believe takes us right back to the Apollo posts on this board. In dunno, this can be considered from varying perspectives. Wish I had kaleidoscope eyes right now. I can't recall the phrasing, but I believe that Apollo, in one his less riddlesome posts, also said that replacement Paul was a much nicer guy than the orig. I still don't believe in an orig, obviously. But it does seem there was a "Paul", behind the scenes for whatever reason(s) who continued guiding, if not creating, the music through…well at least The Fireman, if not much more recently on the experimental albums. Also, somewhere on the currently last handful of pages of my Fireman thread, I pointed out identical fingers between a Paul and John, between a John and a Brian, between a Tara and a George…and what looks to me like an identically too short and fixed with a prosthetic arm between a Ringo and a Paul. More than meets the eye. I also wonder why the onion is made of glass, if that's a ref to the Paul with the glass eye.
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Post by joseph on Sept 24, 2022 15:50:42 GMT -5
It's a confusing puzzle to me. That's kinda the way I had it figured at first, too. How else to account for the Walrus that was eaten? Like all Beatle puzzles, there's a missing piece or extraneous pieces, with a looping "which came first the chicken or the egg" scenario. I thought of "World without Love". The please lock me away motif, seems like "JPM". He stays in the zoo, he wants to be locked away, but has his Beatle money. Where your treasures are, your heart is also. Plus, in this allegory, how does "Billy" do anything, if he is locked away? Unless being locked away, metaphorically speaking, is just what "Billy" laments in Band on the Run. "Stuck inside these four walls", plus the prison images on the magnification screens during the 1970s Wings concerts. Either way, the concepts of being cast away, or locked away, maimed, or even killed (the Revolver cover, the replacement Meat album cover) are all over the McCartney identity. Kill Bill even makes its way into "Tusk". The zoo is the stage. He's barking and clapping for raw fish/money. He's been mutilated into a performing animal. The question is: Who is the seafarer? ...... Also, the Carpenter's mustache and the Walrus' tusks look an awful lot alike (in pictograph). Not identical, of course, but an awful lot alike. Enough to be mistaken for each other. The way he ravenously eats the fish at the end suggests that in spite of being mutilated beyond belief he still has the will to live. Having killed the seafarer a new generation has taken over ogling his monstrous form. It's all preminiscent of Faul playing Glastonbury this year. He just wants to live bless him. Here's how weird my life is these days. Preminiscient isn't a real word - I wanted to use reminiscent but Tusk was made years before Faul played Glasto this year, so I thought, "I'll just put a p in front of it and make up a new word." Then I tried googling preminiscent and Google wouldn't let me until I put it in quotation marks. Now I'd spent a couple of hours looking through Johnny Depp's filmography just perusing it to see if he's worth investigating, so it was really strange that the top of the search for "preminiscent" had a few pictures of Depp subtitled, "Dead Man." It is from a blog called "Cranes Are Flying" I'm about to read this blog now and see if there's any off-beat intelligence in there. cranesareflying1.blogspot.com/2015/07/dead-man.html?m=1
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Post by kvo on Sept 26, 2022 10:37:52 GMT -5
Well, okay, if the Walrus was Paul (Glass Onion), and not actually John as shown on the MMT cover, then John is saying in Glass Onion that Paul was the evil one. Between the Walrus and the Carpenter, the Walrus initially looks to be the most sympathetic character but is revealed to be the more sinister of the two. If the seafarer resembles the Walrus in some way, then we have what......The seafarer was a phony Paul who consumed (ate) the identity of a first Paul. "I told you 'bout the Walrus and me man, you know that we're as close as can be man". Yeah, if you ate him, that's pretty close. The seafarer then sets about creating additional Pauls, who he essentially owns. That brings us to a three Paul scenario. Which I believe takes us right back to the Apollo posts on this board. In dunno, this can be considered from varying perspectives. Wish I had kaleidoscope eyes right now. I can't recall the phrasing, but I believe that Apollo, in one his less riddlesome posts, also said that replacement Paul was a much nicer guy than the orig. I still don't believe in an orig, obviously. But it does seem there was a "Paul", behind the scenes for whatever reason(s) who continued guiding, if not creating, the music through…well at least The Fireman, if not much more recently on the experimental albums. Also, somewhere on the currently last handful of pages of my Fireman thread, I pointed out identical fingers between a Paul and John, between a John and a Brian, between a Tara and a George…and what looks to me like an identically too short and fixed with a prosthetic arm between a Ringo and a Paul. More than meets the eye. I also wonder why the onion is made of glass, if that's a ref to the Paul with the glass eye. I think a shadowy Paul in the background, someone with a shadow hanging over him, is a distinct possibility. I posted about that back in December last year and I'm still keeping an open mind in that direction. The hiding motif is all over early Beatles music. The doubles motif is all over AHDN (the film). Apollo indicating that the original Paul was not as nice as his successor, makes me look among the early Pauls for the most....formidable. To me, that's scowling Paul. On the Enumerating Pauls thread, early photo, left profile, leaned against a building wearing jeans. The Beatles playing with the Glass Onions (glass eyes) on the set of AHDN, a film which is laden with inferences to doubles. Hmmm....In Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, the printed lyrics say the children were allowed to lend A hand, A foot, AN arm, AND a leg. I'm lettin' that one sink in right now. As for the MMT cover, it occurs to me that John was always made out to be the odd ball, bad guy. From the beginning, not just starting in 1967. Looking as though he is making fun of the handicapped while on stage, the Christianity comments. In the next phase, leaving Cynthia for Yoko, the nude photos with Yoko....it goes on and on. Then, he wears the Walrus costume on the MMT cover, the Walrus being the most cunning and evil character in the Walrus and the Carpenter. Thus, by wearing the Walrus costume, John is once again depicted as the bad guy. Though he gives us a clue in Glass Onion that he was never the most sinister or cunning of all Beatles, because the Walrus was Paul (and Paul begins to speak publicly about his drug use). Which leads us back to where.....considering the Apollo posts, an original Paul who wasn't a nice guy and whose identity was assumed. Another circuitous Beatle story. Of course, from a 66er perspective, what we have is an original John unmasking a new Paul as now being the evil character. But with all the changing faces among Beatles personnel,..the Walrus story could well be more complex than the traditional PID narrative, i.e. The Walrus was Paul, could point to someone very real. In the background. Yet another possibility to consider. And the beat goes on...
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Post by B on Sept 27, 2022 10:01:11 GMT -5
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Post by B on Sept 28, 2022 12:18:20 GMT -5
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Post by B on Sept 30, 2022 12:07:42 GMT -5
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